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From what I understand the Benadryl is pretreatment for any anaphylactic reaction to the antibiotic. Many people develop a severe allergic reaction to tetracycline derivatives. When I first started minocine I took Benadryl for the side effects of itching and respiratory symptoms. I thought I was having an allergic reaction. Some good souls on the group told me to reduce my dosage. If the reaction lessened, then it was a herx. If it worsened, it was an allergy. The reaction lessened and I have incrementally increased my dosage. I still carry Benadryl in my pocket just in case. You should always have Benadryl available since you never know when you may have a reaction to a bee sting, drug, etc.

rheumatic benadryl

I read in one of the newsletters from The Road Back Foundation that Dr Brown had his patients take benadryl with their evening dose of antibiotic. It said it "enhanced" the antibiotic.

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Roni and Everyone, I just want ed to say that I have taken Benadryl now for 14 yrs. and it hekped me through my worst times, Drl Oliver said he thought it was safe and stops the reaction some, also it helps you get a good nites sleep. I still take 1 or sometimes 2 at bedtime and just the regular allergy pill, it works quite well. Hope you all get pain free and this is a very helpful way to get to sleep on bad nites, just dont mix with pain pills or sleeping medicine/ from Ohio

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rb09322@... wrote:

>

> Hello everyone:

>

> It has been six months since I started the minocin for

> Scleroderma and seeing some good results (depression

> gone and more energy). Still dealing with stomach,

> digestion problems and hope that goes away eventually.

>

> I have recently discovered that Dr. Brown recommended

> adding Bendryl to the night dose of minocin. Does

> anyone on the ring do that? Second question...I went to

> the drug store to look for Benadryl and not sure what to

> buy. The " Allergy section " has benadryl in tablet form

> and only a few have it in liquid form. Does it matter

> which form I take with the minocin and how much?

>

> Has anyone found that adding benadryl to the minocin

> added another herx or saw any more improvements with it?

> Thanks,

> Roni

> Roni, I have never used the benadryl. I will be interested in the feed back

you get here. I have both of Brown's books and don't remember seeing that so I

find this interesting.

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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I just wanted to add that in some people Benadryl has the opposite effect my oldest daughter who has a lot of allergies and had gotten bit by mesquitos and had some very bad reactions was put on Benadryl and went wild, I mean she was uncontrollable and it was not her fault.

I stopped giving it to her however my youngest daughter can take it and it works great for her. I on the other hand also get hyper, My oldest daugher and I both tend to have the opposite reaction to medications than most people which is why it had been so hard to find something that will help much.

Just thought I would add that so if you feel hyper or anxious you would know that it can be from the Benadral. It is also wonderful in the cream form for allergic reactions that come up on your skin. My youngest is allergic to all soaps except some of the soft soaps and some of the shower and bath in a liquid form. My husband bought a new kind of detergent since she can not tolerate powder he got the liquid like we always do and she broke out all over but it started where her shirt was that day and I knew it had been washed in the new detergent she went to the doctor and was told it was some fungus!!! I made her buy some Benadral and bought the cream, the doctor gave her a presciption for a nasal spray which gave her migraines and made her nose and throat burn. After a coupleof days and it was getting worse she did what I told her and it was cleared up in a couple of days. We no longer buy that detergent and have not had any more problems so far....

I guess all medications can have side effects as we are not all the same we will react to them differently at times.

Peace and hope all you Dads have a Happy Fathers Day!!!!!!!!!

Sherry

Roni and Everyone, I just want ed to say that I have taken Benadryl now for 14 yrs. and it hekped me through my worst times, Drl Oliver said he thought it was safe and stops the reaction some, also it helps you get a good nites sleep. I still take 1 or sometimes 2 at bedtime and just the regular allergy pill, it works quite well. Hope you all get pain free and this is a very helpful way to get to sleep on bad nites, just dont mix with pain pills or sleeping medicine/ from Ohio To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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- I read about Dr. Brown's use of Benadryl in a publication from the

Roadback Foundation. It stated that benadryl " enhanced " the antibiotic.

But I believe that the antihistamine also helps deal with inflammation. And

the plus is......a great night's sleep! And it's safe to use. Judy

(deejay)

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> rb09322@... wrote:

> >

> > Hello everyone:

> >

> > It has been six months since I started the minocin for

> > Scleroderma and seeing some good results (depression

> > gone and more energy). Still dealing with stomach,

> > digestion problems and hope that goes away eventually..

> >

> > I have recently discovered that Dr. Brown recommended

> > adding Bendryl to the night dose of minocin. Does

> > anyone on the ring do that? Second question...I went to

> > the drug store to look for Benadryl and not sure what to

> > buy. The " Allergy section " has benadryl in tablet form

> > and only a few have it in liquid form. Does it matter

> > which form I take with the minocin and how much?

> >

> > Has anyone found that adding benadryl to the minocin

> > added another herx or saw any more improvements with it?

> > Thanks,

> > Roni

> > Roni, I have never used the benadryl. I will be interested in the feed

back you get here. I have both of Brown's books and don't remember seeing

that so I find this interesting.

> > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

> >

> >

> >

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ne

When I was on Naprosyn my nose blocked up every night and drove me mad as

I've always been a nose breather. I stopped the NSAID, use Celebrex now and

the problem is gone. So if you are on a NSAID , that may be a factor.

Gail

> From: " Sus " <msmartin2@...>

> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:04:25 -0600

> <rheumatic >

> Subject: rheumatic benadryl

>

> Why did Dr. Brown recommend benadryl each night? Is it to make sure we get a

> good night's sleep or for something else?

> I'm wondering because each and every night of my entire life my nose plugs

> up. If I sleep on my side, the nostril closest to the bed, will close off. I

> have to get up and stay up for at least 15 minutes before it will stay open

> when I lie down again.

>

> It is horrible. My doctor prescribed floinase and other nasil sprays but

> they give my migraines. I think I heard that people with RA have this

> problem. I'm wondering if benadryl will help with this.

>

> Also my arms and legs itch so bad after I bath or shower. Aveeno doesn't

> help with this. I switched soaps and rinse the towels extra to remove any

> lingering suds. Maybe the benadryl would help with this.

>

> Thanks,

>

> ne

>

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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That's what I am thinking too-- that his behavior is NOT improving

from the Benadryl, so why keep doing it. I think they are just

feeling stuck. So now that he's transferring to my caseload, I feel

more responsibility to help her get unstuck. I will encourage her to

go gluten free. Your reply will help... I think she needs to hear

those kinds of success stories right now to get her going. She does

have some enzymes, but I think they are the old ones with the L

glutamine. We'll see how it goes.

Anyone else have any replies, I'll be glad to hear from you! Thank

you!

W

--- In @y..., Roxanne & Ed Przybysz <przybysz@c...>

wrote:

> ,

>

> It actually sounds like your friend's child is just as difficult

when he

> is on the benadryl as he is when he is taken off.

>

> She NEEDS to remove the gluten from his diet right away no matter

how

> hard she thinks it will be, because if all he eats is wheat...well,

then

> it's probably reacting negatively in his system. > Best of luck!

>

> Roxanne

>

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Ok,

isn't benadryl an anti histamine?

Maybe the child's histamine levels are too high.

Maybe your friend can do a search on high histamine and

see supplements she can use to lower it.

I think B6 is one of those supplements but I am not sure.

She would have to do a search and find out.

.

At 16:32 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>,

>

>It actually sounds like your friend's child is just as difficult when he

>is on the benadryl as he is when he is taken off.

>

>She NEEDS to remove the gluten from his diet right away no matter how

>hard she thinks it will be, because if all he eats is wheat...well, then

>it's probably reacting negatively in his system. We underestimate our

>children's potential to change, even though it does appear they take

>forever to get used to new things in life. They won't starve themselves

>though (not for too long anyway) Eventually they will eat, and they

>will eat what their parents present to them.....that is, if there are no

>other choices. Hard as it is, we have to do what is best for our

>children. Once you start seeing positive things happening, you forget

>how hard it is to keep the offending foods away...actually you begin to

>become motivated and driven to keep them away. Things then become

>easier. The first while is always the hard part though.

>

>You may also want to suggest removing sugar and trying a candida diet

>trial on him. A round of nystatin may do him more good than the

>benadryl. Just a thought.

>

>This is definitely a post worth forwarding to the Autism Diet group as

>well. You may find more answers there. How old is this boy? Is he in

>an ABA program yet? Autistic or not , behavior modification really

>works. Still, I think you should tell your friend to do a strict trial

>on the diet GF and CF first or simultaneously with ABA.

>

>I once heard of a Mom giving her mildly Autistic son children's tylenol

>because of his bad behaviors. She was actually in her own distorted

>way, trying to sedate him. I just shook my head because the only person

>that seemed to be helping was her. Now the child suffers really bad

>reactions to it.

>

>Best of luck!

>

>Roxanne

>**************************************************************************

>

>merrywbee wrote:

>

> > Hello-- this is from a friend of mine, who gave me permission to post

> >

> > about her son...

> >

> > He takes benadryl daily to help with his behavior, and I have

> > concerns that it might be making things worse, and yet the teachers

> > notice things getting worse if he misses a day of benadryl. SO I

> > asked her why did she put him on it in the first place, and I am

> > hoping that some of you all can give suggestions as to what would be

> > something different she could try in terms of supplements that are

> > available from kirkmans or brainchild or...

> >

> > He was looking autistic, then she removed casein and now he's verbal

> > and somewhat interactive... still not neurotypical... she has not

> > removed gluten yet. She feels overwhelmed.

> >

> > hi mary,

> > the reason we have him on bendryl is because he has

> > regressed so much. he escalates all the time. very

> > aggressive and destructive. hes taking matresses off

> > his bunks. throwing dirt in the house. spitting on

> > us and people he does'nt know. going pee on

> > the carpet, biting the dog who he just loves. and

> > very hard. its constant. this morning it was pudding

> > all over the walls and my bed. he just cannot seem to

> > calm down.

> > wednesday i did'nt give any before he went to school

> > because i do struggle with this.

> > when i picked him up kt and kris said he had a bad

> > day.

> > 3 time outs. tearing things up and throwing his

> > shoes. he had a major melt down trying to leave.

> > i told them he had'nt been given bendryl. they said

> > they were afraid that was what it was. kt hated to

> > admit it, but she said he was so different behavior

> > without it. (the teacher really doesn't like meds for kids)

> > we were advised by this lady ron knows that does our

> > taxes to up his bendryl until we could get a handle on

> > his diet. her own boy was even more aggressive and it stemmed from

> > diet.

> > i am also very interested in the things for sleeping.

> > because hes starting to nap again which seems to help

> > his behavior but by evening he is so escualated he

> > cannot go to sleep.

> > our goal is try the gluten diet next. i am afraid

> > this could be his problem. its so hard becasue

> > everyting is with wheat. but we don't want to do drugs.

> >

> > So what do you think guys-- can you help me help her? He's

> > transferring to the sp.ed. preschool where I work because we have a

> > calmer quieter environment than the one he was in-- this alone should

> > help, but what do you think she could try instead of the benadryl--

> > it doesn't sound like it is " working " to me.

> >

> > W

> >

>

>

>

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> Ok,

>

> isn't benadryl an anti histamine?

Yes. It is also wildly sedating.

> Maybe the child's histamine levels are too high.

> Maybe your friend can do a search on high histamine and

> see supplements she can use to lower it.

Calcium, B-12/folate/trimethlyglycine, reduce histidine in the diet

(it is in wheat and other grains so more potatoes and carrots).

> I think B6 is one of those supplements but I am not sure.

It is.

> She would have to do a search and find out.

> .

>

Andy

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Pfeiffer tells me B12 and folate increase histidine.

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>

> > Ok,

> >

> > isn't benadryl an anti histamine?

>

> Yes. It is also wildly sedating.

>

> > Maybe the child's histamine levels are too high.

> > Maybe your friend can do a search on high histamine and

> > see supplements she can use to lower it.

>

> Calcium, B-12/folate/trimethlyglycine, reduce histidine in the diet

> (it is in wheat and other grains so more potatoes and carrots).

>

> > I think B6 is one of those supplements but I am not sure.

>

> It is.

>

> > She would have to do a search and find out.

> > .

> >

>

> Andy

>

> wa

>

> ew

>

> we

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I only take 1/2 a pill I break it as then I do not wake up feling

weird.

It is a lot better

If clariten is good I know thats going over the counter.

Love

Marge

-- In rheumatic , " Nicometo

<dellatigre2@y...> " <dellatigre2@y...> wrote:

> i know people mentioned benadryl to help with histamine release,

> pain and sleep. i have been waking up with racing heart and pain

> moving through my whole body!! when i have taken benadryl in the

> past i have had problems...feel very weird the next day. nyquil

> helps me alot but it has alcohol and that might not be good with

> AP. anyone have luck with anything else...thera flu maybe? i will

> only use it as needed. thanks.

>

> rachael

>

> dermatomyositis 10 years

> AP 5 weeks

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Hi :

Have you considered taking Zyrtec instead of Benadryl for the allergies? I

take Zyrtec at night (it is not a non-sedating antihistamine), and it almost

completely controls my allergy symptoms inside and outside. I occasionally have

to add Nasonex during the peak hay fever weeks, but just for a short time. I

hate to see anyone on Benadryl long term as a regular medication.

Carol

McLaughlin wrote:

My biggest trigger is dust mites, oak or any type of wood doesn't seem to

bother me. I take 50 of Benadryl regularly to help me fall asleep. I was

taking that in addition to Advair 500/50 when the IgE levels were drawn.

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Carol,

I've never been on Zyrtec but my Doctor did mention it the last time I saw

him. I'll ask him again when I see him in March. I've heard a lot of people

say Benadryl isn't good to be taking long-term so I'll give Zyrtec a shot.

Thx,

Carol Corley <mybouvs@...> wrote:

Hi :

Have you considered taking Zyrtec instead of Benadryl for the allergies? I

take Zyrtec at night (it is not a non-sedating antihistamine), and it almost

completely controls my allergy symptoms inside and outside. I occasionally have

to add Nasonex during the peak hay fever weeks, but just for a short time. I

hate to see anyone on Benadryl long term as a regular medication.

Carol

McLaughlin wrote:

My biggest trigger is dust mites, oak or any type of wood doesn't seem to

bother me. I take 50 of Benadryl regularly to help me fall asleep. I was

taking that in addition to Advair 500/50 when the IgE levels were drawn.

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Hi -

Claritin is another non-sedating antihistamine that, like Zyrtec,

lasts for 24 hours (theoretically!). Claritin is much less expensive

than Zyrtec and available over the counter under the brand name or

generic (e.g. Walitin at Walgreens). Yet another non-sedating

antihistamine is Allegra, which requires a prescription but is now

available as a generic. See what your doc thinks about whether to

switch to one of these. Good luck!

Fran

> My biggest trigger is dust mites, oak or any type of wood

doesn't seem to bother me. I take 50 of Benadryl regularly to help

me fall asleep. I was taking that in addition to Advair 500/50 when

the IgE levels were drawn.

>

>

>

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