Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

[Guest guest]

Hi Kori

your having an epidural right?

Youll be okay.

They do them in the doctors office and they use the XRAY machine- the Floroscopy

machine so they can visualize the site when they inject the dye to make sure its

in the right place.

If your going to a Physiatrist or a doc with an anesthesia background youll be

alright, honestly it doesnt hurt much- they give you a shot of lidocaine to numb

and that stings a little. Its a little uncomfortable but not unbearable and its

over very fast!

Just make sure you have your ice packs on hand because sometimes a few hours or

more later you can get sore.

The next day I sometimes have to ice.

It will be a little achey for a few days but by the end of the week youll be

good to go.

They sometimes work real well, and sometimes they dont last long.

Its just all in how it takes.

Dont worry to much, Ive had them all done awake and I was fine with the

discomfort.

Remember- Ice is your friend!

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Hiya ,

  Onw of my Docs. does Prolotherapy however he rcommended Mesotherapy. Have you

or anyone else tried either  for pain.  Having a bad pain day here with damn

headache. I had an en EPI on Monday. So far, I don't think it has helped much.

Haven't given up on it yet. Spine MD mentioned Medial branch block. Any

successes here with that?

Thanks.  Ivan

 

From: Joanne Shively <thruhiseyes1>

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Ivan

have not tried mesotherapy, dont know anything about it.

I have had the selective nerve branch block and it didnt help me, but I think

that is because I have a bulging disc as well as a annular tear so it just didnt

work for me. But you may have different situation and symptoms.

The one thing about the human body is that it is so complex it seems that

everyone has there own varieties of symptoms and often not following the text

book symptoms.

good luck.

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Thank you , because right now I'm really freaking out.  I'm not usually

such a wimp but for some reason this back thing is scaring me.  I called the

dr's office just now to see if they use IV meds or just a local, because I

talked to a couple people I know and they said definitely get the IV meds. but

they said I will just get a local with something beforehand to ease the

anxiety.  I think I'll just keep reading your email that I will be fine and it's

no big deal, that will be my new mantra from now until next Thursday

 Kori Jo

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

guess my advice wasnt good enough

Kori Jo <butterflygirl9193@...> wrote: Thank you , because

right now I'm really freaking out. I'm not usually such a wimp but for some

reason this back thing is scaring me. I called the dr's office just now to see

if they use IV meds or just a local, because I talked to a couple people I know

and they said definitely get the IV meds. but they said I will just get a local

with something beforehand to ease the anxiety. I think I'll just keep reading

your email that I will be fine and it's no big deal, that will be my new mantra

from now until next Thursday

Kori Jo

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Kori Jo,

When I had my epidurals I was out eventho it was the " twilight " drug

where your not completely under, you probably won't feel much of

anything, if anything.

Are you going to like his office or where there is hospital type location?

That would probably make a difference as to how much they give you

to relax.

I would think they do this a lot so know how comfortable to get you

prior to the procedure!

Blessings,

Thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

best to you

wendy

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

I think some where  the subject  here has got mixed up.to start off with some

one was worried about the pain that goes with a discogram (15144} now its

talking about getting epidurals. There is a big differance in the two, maybe she

should reask her question

From: Joanne Shively <thruhiseyes1@...>

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinal problems

Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:47 PM

Kori Jo,

When I had my epidurals I was out eventho it was the " twilight " drug

where your not completely under, you probably won't feel much of

anything, if anything.

Are you going to like his office or where there is hospital type location?

That would probably make a difference as to how much they give you

to relax.

I would think they do this a lot so know how comfortable to get you

prior to the procedure!

Blessings,

Thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Just .02, but don't EVER do a discogram!!!! I had one and it was the

WORST pain I have EVER experienced. I would rather have natural child

birth than ever do that again. And the dr I went to after I had that

done, said that discograms are barbaric and have little value over a

MRI and that those results are conclusive enough. I have to agree. I

had it on 3 discs, the first disc hurt and I thought ok, I can live

with that, the 2nd disc didn't hurt since I have no issues with that

disc and the 3rd disc was the most excruciating pain and it lasted for

about an hour. I screamed and screamed and screamed and I'm not a

wimp!!!! I would be ok with it if the results were needed, but the

fact is they weren't.

Also, I am curious about the person who has a psychiatrist performing

these procedures. I'm not judging, just curious....I didn't know they

could do this type of stuff. Can you give a bit more detail. I like

to know what type of drs I can see when necessary.

Thanks,

Lynda

[Guest guest]

Lynda it's a physiatrist not a psychiatrist. Physiatrists are rehab docs.

Deb rn

From: spinal problems

[mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of ljw75010

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:55 PM

spinal problems

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

Just .02, but don't EVER do a discogram!!!! I had one and it was the

WORST pain I have EVER experienced. I would rather have natural child

birth than ever do that again. And the dr I went to after I had that

done, said that discograms are barbaric and have little value over a

MRI and that those results are conclusive enough. I have to agree. I

had it on 3 discs, the first disc hurt and I thought ok, I can live

with that, the 2nd disc didn't hurt since I have no issues with that

disc and the 3rd disc was the most excruciating pain and it lasted for

about an hour. I screamed and screamed and screamed and I'm not a

wimp!!!! I would be ok with it if the results were needed, but the

fact is they weren't.

Also, I am curious about the person who has a psychiatrist performing

these procedures. I'm not judging, just curious....I didn't know they

could do this type of stuff. Can you give a bit more detail. I like

to know what type of drs I can see when necessary.

Thanks,

Lynda

[Guest guest]

I always thought a myelogram was torture

Debra <i_ownaberner@...> wrote:

Lynda it's a physiatrist not a psychiatrist. Physiatrists are rehab

docs.

Deb rn

From: spinal problems

[mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of ljw75010

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:55 PM

spinal problems

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

Just .02, but don't EVER do a discogram!!!! I had one and it was the

WORST pain I have EVER experienced. I would rather have natural child

birth than ever do that again. And the dr I went to after I had that

done, said that discograms are barbaric and have little value over a

MRI and that those results are conclusive enough. I have to agree. I

had it on 3 discs, the first disc hurt and I thought ok, I can live

with that, the 2nd disc didn't hurt since I have no issues with that

disc and the 3rd disc was the most excruciating pain and it lasted for

about an hour. I screamed and screamed and screamed and I'm not a

wimp!!!! I would be ok with it if the results were needed, but the

fact is they weren't.

Also, I am curious about the person who has a psychiatrist performing

these procedures. I'm not judging, just curious....I didn't know they

could do this type of stuff. Can you give a bit more detail. I like

to know what type of drs I can see when necessary.

Thanks,

Lynda

[Guest guest]

I didnt scream..they gace you a seditive, and deaded the area that they are

going to use as an injection site

Kori Jo <butterflygirl9193@...> wrote: Hi Deb, after reading

about the screaming I'm going to make sure I'm asleep when he does it!! I'm

having it done in a procedure room at the doctor's office. He didn't mention

anything about fluoroscopy and to be honest I'm not sure what that is. I wish I

could spend more time at the computer so I could read up on all these types of

procedures, I think I wouldn't feel so afraid if I understood more of this back

stuff. Fusions, lamenictomy, discograms, etc......He told me about fusion

surgery but it sounds like there's many procedures that are done for back

pain/problems and none of them sound like very much fun and it doesn't sound

like there's one specific procedure that works great for everybody. I'm 35 and

have had 9 surgeries in my life (mostly women related stuff that started when I

was 14) including a back surgery at the T11-12 level in 2004 where they removed

a very large congenital cyst that I didn't know I

had, but this is the

first time where the thought of surgery scares me.

Kori Jo

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

well my  new and improved pain doc. doesn't trust Discograms  but does say if it

get that bad why not go ahead and do a myelogram. He doesnt think putting

pressure into disks is good for them.  I¢ve had 3 Discograms and they never

found out any thing with them.

From: Joanne Shively <thruhiseyes1>

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Oh good!!! I was horrified thinking someone was having this done in a

counselor's office!!!!

And just for clarity since it seems like two questions have mixed into

one....the one about the discogram (I think my views on that is pretty

clear-see below) and the one about epidural shots. I have had those

as well and they really worked for me. I was totally put under for

those (best 15 minutes each time!). I would recommend finding a dr

who will put you out. Why go through any additional pain when you can

go out all together. Past that, I would stay in bed for a couple of

days. I would take pain meds and ice it a lot. By day 3 it was

better and then after the second round of shots I would start to feel

relief. I hope it works for you as well. It helped me avoid surgery

for 5 years, when it stopped working I did have to have a fusion. I

am 6 months post surgery and I haven't felt this good in more than 6

years!!! I know it won't last forever, but for now, I'm enjoying a

break in the pain!!!

Also, there was a question as to why you might feel pain on the left

side when the majority of issues are on your right. My doctor has

given me 2 reasons something like that might happen. The majority of

issues might be on the right, but the major issue could be on the left

and that is why you are going to feel the pain there. Also, if you

have anything leaking on the right it can take a " path " that flows

over to the left side. For me, I have a ruptured disc on my left, but

my right side hurt because that is where the worst rupture of the many

I have was.

I hope some of this helps.

>

> Lynda it's a physiatrist not a psychiatrist. Physiatrists are rehab

docs.

>

> Deb rn

>

>

>

> From: spinal problems

> [mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of

ljw75010

> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:55 PM

> spinal problems

> Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

>

>

>

> Just .02, but don't EVER do a discogram!!!! I had one and it was the

> WORST pain I have EVER experienced. I would rather have natural child

> birth than ever do that again. And the dr I went to after I had that

> done, said that discograms are barbaric and have little value over a

> MRI and that those results are conclusive enough. I have to agree. I

> had it on 3 discs, the first disc hurt and I thought ok, I can live

> with that, the 2nd disc didn't hurt since I have no issues with that

> disc and the 3rd disc was the most excruciating pain and it lasted for

> about an hour. I screamed and screamed and screamed and I'm not a

> wimp!!!! I would be ok with it if the results were needed, but the

> fact is they weren't.

>

> Also, I am curious about the person who has a psychiatrist performing

> these procedures. I'm not judging, just curious....I didn't know they

> could do this type of stuff. Can you give a bit more detail. I like

> to know what type of drs I can see when necessary.

>

> Thanks,

> Lynda

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you dont want a myelogram either.....it feels like you are being tortured...with

MRIs and such, why inflict even more pain on someone? Vicki

ron Pat <ronpat0471@...> wrote: well my new and improved pain doc.

doesn't trust Discograms but does say if it get that bad why not go ahead and

do a myelogram. He doesnt think putting pressure into disks is good for them.

I¢ve had 3 Discograms and they never found out any thing with them.

From: Joanne Shively

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

after 6 years a myelogram was the only thing that found where my pain come from,

I would more than be glad to take another one if they said I needed it. My

feeling ,if you put off a test that should help you because it will cause 

pain    maybe your original pain is not as bad as you though it was

From: Joanne Shively

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Thank you everyone for your encouraging responses!  I've calmed down since when

I first found out they weren't doing IV sedation, I'm still a little nervous

but am focusing on the hope they will relieve the pain enough to where my life

can start to get back to normal.  I've got 3 teenage daughters at home, one of

which just came home yesterday from a 65 day stint in treatment so I'm trying to

focus my energy on keeping her busy and being able to do some things with her. 

Thanks again for all the support and answering my many questions, I've learned

alot in the short time since I joined this group.  You're a very nice bunch of

people and it's great how supportive you are of each other.

 Kori Jo

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

I had a Myelogram. I didn't have any valium or other drugs prior to the

procedure.

It was completed at a radiology center. They inject the dye into your spinal

canal and then you have to roll around and they tilt you up and down on a table

to make sure the dye is distributed well.

If you have never had an epidural steroid injection, then you should definitely

listen to what people are telling you.

The needle going to the spine hurts like hell, then they reach the spinal canal

and will 9 times out of 10 hit a nerve, which will light you up like a

firecracker.

Then the dye is injected. Different people react differently to the dye.

Some are even allergic.

I felt like I was going to throw up and freeze to death. My vision was a little

fuzzy as well at first.

Then the pain subsides, but you will still feel a little wierd until the dye

works it way out of your system.

I hope this didn't scare you. I wish someone had told me everything to expect

before I went in.

Shayna

 It is better to be hated for who you are than liked for who you aren't.

From: Joanne Shively

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

Thats what friends are for, Keri......Vicki

Kori Jo <butterflygirl9193@...> wrote: Thank you everyone for

your encouraging responses! I've calmed down since when I first found out they

weren't doing IV sedation, I'm still a little nervous but am focusing on the

hope they will relieve the pain enough to where my life can start to get back to

normal. I've got 3 teenage daughters at home, one of which just came home

yesterday from a 65 day stint in treatment so I'm trying to focus my energy on

keeping her busy and being able to do some things with her. Thanks again for

all the support and answering my many questions, I've learned alot in the short

time since I joined this group. You're a very nice bunch of people and it's

great how supportive you are of each other.

Kori Jo

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

My mom had had a myelogram years ago, and she got a spinal headache. You'd

think that with all of our technology today, those barbaric procedure would not

be used again.I also recently had an epidural injection right at my tailbone,and

yeah, it stung like a scorpion, but after a week, my pain level was down.

Oh,well....we do have the right to refuse these tests and ask for different

options..that way you can make a true informed consent, and another thing..READ

YOUR CONSENT FORM CAREFULLY AND ASK QUESTIONS!!! You have a right to be included

in your healthcare ..you have more power than you realize. Just some FYI

bits...Vicki,Tx

Shayna <shaynal2003@...> wrote: I had a Myelogram. I didn't have

any valium or other drugs prior to the procedure.

It was completed at a radiology center. They inject the dye into your spinal

canal and then you have to roll around and they tilt you up and down on a table

to make sure the dye is distributed well.

If you have never had an epidural steroid injection, then you should definitely

listen to what people are telling you.

The needle going to the spine hurts like hell, then they reach the spinal canal

and will 9 times out of 10 hit a nerve, which will light you up like a

firecracker.

Then the dye is injected. Different people react differently to the dye.

Some are even allergic.

I felt like I was going to throw up and freeze to death. My vision was a little

fuzzy as well at first.

Then the pain subsides, but you will still feel a little wierd until the dye

works it way out of your system.

I hope this didn't scare you. I wish someone had told me everything to expect

before I went in.

Shayna

It is better to be hated for who you are than liked for who you aren't.

From: Joanne Shively

Subject: Re: Bulging discs and stenosis

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

Hi Kori Jo,

I read your post....

seems to me that is the direction the bulge is touching

the nerve and causing the issues on the left side..I think

it might be the angle....but I am not a Dr.

Do you know if you have any tears..in the disc?

thru

Bulging discs and stenosis

Hi everyone, my MRI shows moderate facet hypertrophic changes asymmetric to

the right at the L5-S1 level. At the L4-5 level it shows posterior disc

bulging asymmetric to the right, mild facet hypertrophic changes, and right

lateral stenosis. There's also posterior disc bulging at the L2-3 level.

It seems most everything is on the right but most of my pain is on the left,

why would that be?? I have this horrible burning type pain all across my

rear and halfway down the back of my thighs but it's worse on the left. I'm

just wondering why if it says most of the stuff is happening on the right

why is my pain worse on the left??

Also, when I do this leaning back kind of stretch I have this new popping

sound and it feels like bones are rubbing together or something. That

started just a couple weeks ago, does anybody know what that might be? I

don't see the dr again until the 18th, for my first ESI, so I thought I'd

ask this group if they could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!

Kori Jo

[Guest guest]

_butterflygirl9193@..._ (mailto:butterflygirl9193@...) writes:

<< ...1 injection on the first date and the second injection on the 2nd date.

Do they normally do 2 on the same day?>>

I've had as many as 2 doubles (= 4 epidurals) in 1 visit in my lumbar area.

They only did 1 set of doubles when they did my cervical region though.

Best regards,

Patty A

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