Re: oxycontin vicodin morphine

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>Vicodin is a synthetic opiate similar to codeine and Oxycontin is similar

>to Morphine and Percocet, it is an opiate. The thing that makes Oxycontin

>different is that it is extended release versus immediate

>release. Vicodin and Oxycontin are not the same thing. Oxycontin is far

>more potent in strength than morphine but it is similar to morphine.>>

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In a message dated 1/17/03 3:57:08 PM, touchingsouls1x1@... writes:

<<

Vicodin is a synthetic opiate similar to codeine and Oxycontin is similar to

Morphine and Percocet, it is an opiate. The thing that makes Oxycontin

different is that it is extended release versus immediate release. Vicodin

and Oxycontin are not the same thing. Oxycontin is far more potent in

strength than morphine but it is similar to morphine. >>

Not sure who wrote the above, but respectfully, they have given incorrect

information. I have taken all of these medications. Oxycontin, which is a

timed released medication, is not similar to Morphine. I have taken Oxycontin

(more similar to Vicodin not Codeine). I have also taken M.S. Contin (which

perhaps the writer is confusing Oxycontin with) which also is a time released

medication and also is a Morphine derivitive. For the best information, check

with your doctor or pharmacist, particularly if you have an allergy or

concern to a specific medication.

Robin

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In a message dated 1/17/03 4:28:40 PM, touchingsouls1x1@... writes:

<< Vicodin is a synthetic opiate similar to codeine >>

Again, Vicodin (is Hydrocodone NOT CODEINE). While I think this group is a

wonderul source of sharing both information and our experiences and I'm

always grateful, I think it is important to note that people do make mistakes

in here (including me). People's opinions are valuable and treasured! But we

should also ALWAYS check with our pharmacists and doctors in the final

analysis.

I, too, have been taking pain meds (through pain managment programs) for the

better part of 10 years. Just to name a few: From non narcotics like Ultram,

and Toredol to Vicodin (and it's relatives, Lortabs, Norco) to Hydromorphone

(also called Diluaded, I believe) to Oxycontin (TIme released Hydrocodone

without Tylenol), M.S. Contin (Time released Morphine), Tylenol and Codeine,

Flexeril, Skelaxin, Xanaflex (great non-narcotic muscle relaxant---but hard

on liver sometimes), Doxpin, Neurontin, Topamax, Naprosyn, Vioxx, Celebrex,

and a host of other joyous, anti-inflammatories, muscle relaxants, special

pain med blends, injections etc.

My point is, that I, too, have a bit of a working knowledge of a few of these

as well. I am not above making a mistake, but I do know about those that I've

taken. Again, however, if someone has a question or a concern, they should

call their doctor or pharmacist. If someone has a question about a side

effect they're having and want to know if it's something I experienced I'd be

more than happy to share my experience as that's all I'm really qualified to

do.

Robin

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Robin wrote "

In a message dated 1/18/2003 2:48:51 PM Central Standard Time,

bird3459@... writes:

> <<Vicodin is a synthetic opiate similar to codeine >>

>

> Again, Vicodin (is Hydrocodone NOT CODEINE). While I think this group is a

>

> wonderul source of sharing both information and our experiences and I'm

> always grateful, I think it is important to note that people do make

> mistakes

> in here (including me). People's opinions are valuable and treasured! But

> we

> should also ALWAYS check with our pharmacists and doctors in the final

> analysis.

>

> I, too, have been taking pain meds (through pain managment programs) for

> the

> better part of 10 years. Just to name a few: From non narcotics like

> Ultram,

> and Toredol to Vicodin (and it's relatives, Lortabs, Norco) to

> Hydromorphone

> (also called Diluaded, I believe) to Oxycontin (TIme released Hydrocodone

> without Tylenol), M.S. Contin (Time released Morphine), Tylenol and

> Codeine,

> Flexeril, Skelaxin, Xanaflex (great non-narcotic muscle relaxant---but hard

>

> on liver sometimes), Doxpin, Neurontin, Topamax, Naprosyn, Vioxx, Celebrex,

>

> and a host of other joyous, anti-inflammatories, muscle relaxants, special

>

> pain med blends, injections etc.

>

> My point is, that I, too, have a bit of a working knowledge of a few of

> these

> as well. I am not above making a mistake, but I do know about those that

> I've

> taken. Again, however, if someone has a question or a concern, they should

> call their doctor or pharmacist. If someone has a question about a side

> effect they're having and want to know if it's something I experienced I'd

> be

> more than happy to share my experience as that's all I'm really qualified

> to

> do.

>

> Robin

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> I am certainly not a chemist, nor would I date one, lol.

>>>

ROFLMAO Nor do you play one on TV right? K girls....no need to get

uptight...if I am really concerned, I will ask the pharmacist...cuz at this

point, I don't know for sure that my Doc is paying close enough

attention. One of these days, I won't even care to know what the damned

difference is in ANY pain meds! Hey...I can dream can't I?

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> For the best information, check

>with your doctor or pharmacist, particularly if you have an allergy or

>concern to a specific medication.>>

Hey Robin

Actually, the only reason I was so confused was because the paper that the

pharmacy sent home with the Oxy said that it was similar to

morphine.....and that is what worried me. I promise to ask them next time

I am in there!! Thanks for worrying about me hun

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In a message dated 1/18/03 2:32:25 PM, touchingsouls1x1@... writes:

<< The word SIMILAR.... no one said it WAS codeine that I saw.

>>

I stand corrected.

Robin

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In a message dated 1/18/03 2:41:28 PM, touchingsouls1x1@... writes:

<< I was trying to help with her intial question of " is Vicodin and

Oxycontin the same thing " ? Anyone is free to interpret the word similar to

their own meaning so just find the hard facts for yourself and decide. >>

Me too. I'm so sorry!! Didn't mean to come off as a " know it all " or get

involved in a " pissing match " either. When I re-read what I wrote (my

response) it came out a bit different from what I had intended. Somewhere

along the line I read that someone said that they (Hydrocodone and Codeine)

were the " same " medication which I knew they weren't.

Robin

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In a message dated 1/18/03 6:03:45 PM, Ckelly@... writes:

<< OFLMAO Nor do you play one on TV right? K girls....no need to get

uptight...if I am really concerned, I will ask the pharmacist...cuz at this

point, I don't know for sure that my Doc is paying close enough

attention. >>

honey, we're ok. Or at least, I'm ok. People need to voice their

opinions and sometimes they disagree. I think is the bomb!!! (That was

a compliment lol).

But I do think you should check with your pharmacist. I was originally (back

in '94 or '95 when I was put on Oxycontin) put on it cuz I tolerated Vicodin

so well but it only worked for 1 1/2 hrs for me so my pain mgmt. doctor

suggested the Oxycontin and told me it was the same stuff but time released

and without the Tylenol. I COULD BE MISTAKEN THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!

I have found that Codeine works best for me. I now take Tylenol and Codeine

#4 (which, when it works, works for 4-5 hours). I had started developing a

tolerance. My new (and brilliant) pain mgmt doctor has added a special

compound with it along with some other stuff. Some of these doctors are

pretty smart guys. So KEEP ASKING IF SOMETHING DOESN " T WORK. Make them pay

attention or get another doctor.

xoxooxxo

Robin

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In a message dated 1/18/03 7:44:44 PM, Ckelly@... writes:

<< Hey Robin

Actually, the only reason I was so confused was because the paper that the

pharmacy sent home with the Oxy said that it was similar to

morphine.....and that is what worried me. I promise to ask them next time

I am in there!! Thanks for worrying about me hun >>

Chris:

Thanks for seeing that that's exactly where I was coming from. Boy, since I

quit smoking last week, my words seem to be coming out a bit less delicate

than I intended.

Anyway.....you're welcome and good.

xoxooxooo

Robin

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In a message dated 1/20/03 8:50:12 AM, Ckelly@... writes:

<< I looked

up the pain mgmt Dr's and there are actually quite a few in

Tulsa....Hmmmmm. Do you go to those guys in addition to your reg Dr's? >>

Yeah, kinda. My pain mgmt. doc does all the prescribing of pain meds. My new

guy is great but I've also had terrible ones too. Like all docs, some are

great and brilliant and others are awful. You just have to find the right

one. I know exactly what you mean about the " accepting " part. I just view it

as dealing with this guy until the problem is fixed though. In fact the pain

group I'm now associated with mostly see people for 6 months or so (I'm a

rare case for them). Most of my other Pain Mgmt. docs see their patients for

years. Some people see their Pain guys for the rest of their lives and some

only until the problem arrests or is taken care of until surgery. Just look

at it as a temporary thing.

Robin

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In a message dated 1/20/03 8:53:17 AM, Ckelly@... writes:

<< A class eh? Hmmmm, I might need to check on that. Who does these classes

dear >>

American Heart ( & lung Association?) and often given in the local hospitals.

Robin

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In a message dated 1/20/03 11:34:09 AM, Ckelly@... writes:

<< Heck, I got

nothing to lose but the habit right? >>

absolutely.

Robin