Re: I'm having problems

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>Guys ->>

Hey Joe.....if you saw my boobs,.....you wouldn't call me that! LOLOLOL

>I'm having some problems and I think it relates to the lower back.

>My chiroprator tells me it's an inflamed sciatic nerve. I'm willing to

>buy that, but it hurts like hell. Makes my ACDF pains seem

>insignificant.>>

You want my *honest* opinion??? Step away from the Chiro!!!! Now don't

get me wrong! I have myself used Chiros on occasion....but I think that

when nerves are affected.....they can actually make things worse for you.

>When I go from lying down to standing or sitting, I get a shooting

>pain down my left leg (my good leg) and some tingling on the calf and

>foot. I suspect the nerve might be affecting L5/S1.>>

OK...did you go to the site that I think posted & check to see that

nerve it is for sure?

http://www.talaria.org/derm/dermmap.html

Sounds to me like you've got that nerve compressed and when you stand or

set.....it makes it worse. Strange tho that just the calf & foot is

involved....and not further up the leg. But.....that just means that (IMO)

it hasn't affected the whole nerve just yet....which means don't wait on

this Joe!!!!!

>I'll be totally honest, if I'm told that I have to have a 3rd surgery,

>I don't think that I can handle it mentally or physically. I'm looking

>for any advice you Lumbar experts might have. Thanks.>>

Oh geeze Joe! You damned sure may have no choice here Friend! You know

very well that you can't leave nerves compressed...unless you like to be in

wheelchairs! Why don't you see about getting an MRI at the very

least.....it may be a whole lot less than what we think....and your getting

worried about nothing! You KNOW that we will be here for you......to get

you thru whatever happens to come up! THe MRI will at least let you know

what is going on. You GOTTA know Joe.....you can't go on like this.

{{{{HUGS}}}}

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>

> >Guys ->>

>

> Hey Joe.....if you saw my boobs,.....you wouldn't call me that! LOLOLOL

>

Send me a picture. I'm serious.

>

> >I'm having some problems and I think it relates to the lower back.

> >My chiroprator tells me it's an inflamed sciatic nerve. I'm willing to

> >buy that, but it hurts like hell. Makes my ACDF pains seem

> >insignificant.>>

>

> You want my *honest* opinion??? Step away from the Chiro!!!! Now don't

> get me wrong! I have myself used Chiros on occasion....but I think that

> when nerves are affected.....they can actually make things worse for you.

>

>

I'm beginning to see that, but he has done so much for my midback (Thorasic)

after the ACDF. A lot of the pain in my shouldblades is gone.

> >When I go from lying down to standing or sitting, I get a shooting

> >pain down my left leg (my good leg) and some tingling on the calf and

> >foot. I suspect the nerve might be affecting L5/S1.>>

>

> OK...did you go to the site that I think posted & check to see that

> nerve it is for sure?

> http://www.talaria.org/derm/dermmap.html

> Sounds to me like you've got that nerve compressed and when you stand or

> set.....it makes it worse. Strange tho that just the calf & foot is

> involved....and not further up the leg. But.....that just means that

(IMO)

> it hasn't affected the whole nerve just yet....which means don't wait on

> this Joe!!!!!

Well, it really hurts most when I get up after sleeping (must be all that

physical activity with I'm dreaming about ) The pain did go

all the way up to my butt. Felt like someone nailed a rope to my

butt cheek and it went down to my feet.

I saw it as a function of how the sciatic nerve was stretched (when sitting)

vs. not stretched (when lying down), but my chiro said it was mainly

a function of weight bearing. I've started an intense diet, but I can't

drop half a ton in a few days. My chiro has helped the pain with

stretching and providing heat/ice instructions.

I'm scheduled for accupuncture this coming Tuesday. This guy is

in the same practice with the cool neurosurgeon and the GP back doctor

I worship. I've fed this info to them and they are waiting for me when

I get there. As soon as I know something, you'll know.

> >I'll be totally honest, if I'm told that I have to have a 3rd surgery,

> >I don't think that I can handle it mentally or physically. I'm looking

> >for any advice you Lumbar experts might have. Thanks.>>

>

> Oh geeze Joe! You damned sure may have no choice here Friend! You know

> very well that you can't leave nerves compressed...unless you like to be

in

> wheelchairs! Why don't you see about getting an MRI at the very

> least.....it may be a whole lot less than what we think....and your

getting

> worried about nothing! You KNOW that we will be here for you......to get

> you thru whatever happens to come up! THe MRI will at least let you know

> what is going on. You GOTTA know Joe.....you can't go on like this.

> {{{{HUGS}}}}

Well, I don't think that I can mentally or physically take another surgery.

Just

before I had my 2nd surgery (ACDF), I had an MRI. There were no other

problems noted except for a small herniation in my T1. I don't think they

did

the sciatic. I'll discuss it with superDoc next week. If there's a way to

avoid

surgery, I want to.

I'll be honest besides being afraid to be cut on again, I've missed so much

work

that missing another few weeks might cost me my position. I also have

no-one

to help me the way I would need help. Should I lose my job, I have no

health

insurance. Without a plan, my medication alone would deplete my savings

within 5 years. And the chance of getting hired by a company when I've had

2 surgeries, not so good, I think.

But I'm thinking too much ahead now, I've been so pessimistic since my dad

died

and I almost died as well.

I'll cheer up as soon as sends me a picture.

joe

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>Send me a picture. I'm serious.>>

ROFL Ohhh Joe! You crack me up! Actually, I did try! But, I can't seem

to get this new puter to recognize the pics on the floppy! I don't have

the energy to fight with it this evening either...I'm sorry You'll have

to use your imagination

> >

>I'm beginning to see that, but he has done so much for my midback (Thorasic)

>after the ACDF. A lot of the pain in my shouldblades is gone.>>

Oh and I truly believe that they can indeed help alot of situations! But I

also think that there are just some things that they can't or shouldn't try

to fix

Well, it really hurts most when I get up after sleeping (must be all that

>physical activity with I'm dreaming about ) The pain did go

>all the way up to my butt.>>

Now, it is interesting to me that you should describe the pain as traveling

UP.....rather than down.....my pain always starts at my spine area &

travels downwards towards my toes. Hmmmmm And I agree.....it probably IS

all 's fault <G>

> Felt like someone nailed a rope to my

>butt cheek and it went down to my feet.

>

>I saw it as a function of how the sciatic nerve was stretched (when sitting)

>vs. not stretched (when lying down), but my chiro said it was mainly

>a function of weight bearing. >>

Now see....I agree with your idea of why it hurts! LOL When my nerve was

compressed at L5 it did indeed hurt like hell to set.....laying down on my

stomach, and again, with these boobs, even that was not easy, but that was

THE only position that allowed me to sleep with the least amount of

pain. I really think that your right Joe.....you've got that compressed

nerve and as you set, it does stretch it even further and causes pain.

> I've started an intense diet, but I can't

>drop half a ton in a few days. My chiro has helped the pain with

>stretching and providing heat/ice instructions.>>>

Blech.....diet eh? I'll wish you luck with that Joe! I too am overweight

and would probably do better to drop some weight. Have you found the

heat/ice to help get rid of the inflammation? I don't mind the hear, but

BRRRRRRR I HATE the cold part!!! LOL

>I'm scheduled for accupuncture this coming Tuesday. This guy is

>in the same practice with the cool neurosurgeon and the GP back doctor

>I worship. I've fed this info to them and they are waiting for me when

>I get there. As soon as I know something, you'll know.>>

Ohhh COOL! I am jealous! I've looked into it as it is offered on our

insurance plan. I want to get these darned screws out first. I'm going to

have the Neuro check on my S2 & L3 when he goes in there.....so if those

need any work....he can do it then...I don't want to be opened back up for

quite a while! LOL

>Well, I don't think that I can mentally or physically take another surgery.>>

Yea well, what you *think* you can handle....and what you end up handling

may be 2 diff things And I mean that in a good way! Life has its way

of throwing us all kinds of curves.....therefore, we have to swerve!

>Just

>before I had my 2nd surgery (ACDF), I had an MRI. There were no other

>problems noted except for a small herniation in my T1. I don't think they

>did

>the sciatic. I'll discuss it with superDoc next week. If there's a way to

>avoid

>surgery, I want to.>>

You betcha! We ALL want to avoid surgery, and want you to as

well. But...we also don't want you to go around being in pain.....or have

a nerve compressed that may lead to permanent nerve damage.

>I'll be honest besides being afraid to be cut on again, I've missed so much

>work

>that missing another few weeks might cost me my position. I also have

>no-one

>to help me the way I would need help. Should I lose my job, I have no

>health

>insurance. Without a plan, my medication alone would deplete my savings

>within 5 years. And the chance of getting hired by a company when I've had

>2 surgeries, not so good, I think.>>

WHOA!!!!! Back that up Jack...oh wait, this is Joe right? LOL Your

thinking way too far ahead Joe!!! No need to do that to yourself. You

have to take your life one day at a time. Heck, all of us do. We don't

have much of a choice. Try to live for today Joe....tomorrow comes too

quickly the way it is

>But I'm thinking too much ahead now, I've been so pessimistic since my dad

>died

>and I almost died as well.>>>

Sigh.....this is a tough one. Tho I have both of my parents, I was right

there with my hubby when he lost his Mom to an inoperable brain

tumor. It's been almost 2 years and I can honestly say that I don't think

he is thru grieving yet. That is such a personal thing. It may take one

person 10 years while another one makes their peace in 2. What do you

think happens to you when you die Joe? I can tell you that I am a HUGE

fan. He has made me rethink my entire thoughts on what happens

to you after you pass on from this physical life. I even tape this guy

every single day! LOL Some may call him a fake....let them. I've watched

him for years and I have no doubt that this man connects to folks that have

passed on.

Here's a story or two for you. My hubby was probably more of a non

believer than most. I made him watch one of the 's that I had taped

and it showed a woman that had lost her hubby. They had a small girl and

she had taken her to a beach and as they walked along the beach, they came

across a feather. As the little girl bent to pick it up, Mom told her that

it was a message from her Dad. told the mom about this whole

incident, without her giving any hints etc. Well, we went to Ft. to

get married. Got checked into the motel room and as we tossed the one

suitcase on top of the shelf......a feather floated down. Now.....what are

the chances? The next day, we went to The Waffle House to eat

breakfast. As we were walking in the door, I stopped & looked down and

what do you know......yet another feather! We both know that his Mom is

still keeping an eye on us....even if she can't be with us

physically. That does give hubby some comfort.

Story #2 <G> Hubby purchased a miniature bell of sorts and had put it on

his dresser about a month or so ago. He was on *The Throne* ~rolls my

eyes~ and NO ONE else was home but him. All of the sudden, this bell

started going off all by itself! We do have cats that crawl up there on

occasion, so he jumped up off of The Throne to check it out....and there

was no cats. We've no doubt that is was Mom saying Hi.

What I am trying to tell you Joe is to be on the lookout for your Dad to be

saying Hi to you in odd ways. Your going to have to have an open mind, but

I have no doubt that it will happen eventually. Try not to worry about

your Dad.....hell, he's probably having a much better time than you think

he is {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

>I'll cheer up as soon as sends me a picture.>>

ROFL Ohhh man...NO pressure there right Joe??????????? I have them on the

disc.....as soon as I can get this stupid Windows XP to work....they will

be in your mailbox!!!!

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><<<Send me a picture. I'm serious.>>>

>

>Are you cheating on me big man? lol>>

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>oo. But do get that MRI done.

>

>Jan>>

Hehehehe See Joe...I told ya so! <VBG>

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This is going to sound weird but if it helps with any of the guys

out there then it has done some good. About 8 years ago I had issues

with my sciatic nerve to the point that I could not get out of bed

or walk at all. The cure for me at the time? Real dumb sounding but

I stopped carrying my wallet in my back pocket and moved it to a

front pocket. It seems that the wallet would pinch the nerve when

seated for any amount of time. Just moving the wallet for me cured

the issue. Hope it helps some people find less pain. That was

definitely the most excruciating pain I have ever gone

through...including my recent ACDF problems.

Littlefield

ACDF C6-7 w/ hardware

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wrote:

> This is going to sound weird but if it helps with any of the guys

> out there then it has done some good. About 8 years ago I had issues

> with my sciatic nerve to the point that I could not get out of bed

> or walk at all. The cure for me at the time? Real dumb sounding but

> I stopped carrying my wallet in my back pocket and moved it to a

> front pocket. It seems that the wallet would pinch the nerve when

> seated for any amount of time. Just moving the wallet for me cured

> the issue. Hope it helps some people find less pain. That was

> definitely the most excruciating pain I have ever gone

> through...including my recent ACDF problems.

>

- I always thought that's why my dad had some back problems,

I have his wallet since he passed away and it's over an inch thick. My

wallet is about 1/4 of an inch. I keep a DL and a credit card and my

health insurance card in it. Cash is in my front pocket.

Oh, I do keep 3 dozen condoms in it in case I run into and .

Or if I just want to drop water balloons off the top of a tall building.

joe

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>

> >>>Oh, I do keep 3 dozen condoms in it in case I run into Chris

and .

> Or if I just want to drop water balloons off the top of a tall

building.

>

> joe<<<

>

> I want all the glow-in-the-dark ones and the " ribbed for her

pleasure " ones, lol.

>

I have to say that I am also one step from removing myself from this

group. No big loss to you guys as I am a newby to the whole neck

issue but very disappointing that I try to post something useful

that I have learned to ease pain and it is turned into crap like

this. There are message groups available for jokes if that is the

medicine that best cures your ills. I had thought that this was a

group to assist those in pain with Spinal Disorders. Hardly a

laughing matter for any of us that have it. I know Joe, if we don't

laugh the we die but when a new person comes on here looking for

intelligent information about the problems facing them they are not

here to hear about your condom situation or if you are swapping

pictures with someone on board....I think they have other groups for

those topics as well. I am prepared to be flamed for this but must

say it is disappointing to have to weed through messages in this

group to get the useful information out. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Dear Janice,

Yes I am here to ask serious questions about spinal problems....

I just found out that I have this and I'm terrified. If someone should think

this is one big joke. They should leave the group and start their own sick

group.

We are here to share and comfort one another. I do not know if I'm going to

live or be paralyzed from the neck down.

So let us be kind. So Janice I'm with you.

amy

>

> Oh dear...I don't want to add to the mix...and I really do enjoy a good

joke..who doesn't? But when messages are really directed between two people

and they are way off the subject....I feel they should be personally

emailed. Regardless of the content.

> Jan

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Amy,

No one ever made a joke about this condition they were dealing with

their illness the best they know how. To share and comfort doesn't

mean to feel sorry for oneself. None of us know whether we are going

to live or be paralyzed. What exactly does your MRI report say? In

order to get answers or support people (not you by any means) must

post not just lurk around. Heck I was posting with one arm not to

long ago as I was unable to use right arm from nerve compression. I

had to lift right arm with left arm to use right hand fingers

whenever possible. The morphine injection and pills really was a

trip, motrin helped the best though. If I could post so could most

lurkers.

The usual people posting weren't going to reiterate every 5 minutes

their aching condition. Everytime someone posted there medical

condition it got serious in here. Not once was anyone made fun of

for their medical condition rather they were embraced and given

support or personal advice from their own experiences. See thats

what makes this a great place sharing.

I just want to say one very important thing I learned the hard way

in my life. No matter what your circumstances in life you have a

choice to be happy or miserable. Try some Chicken Soup for the Soul

Books they're great.

-Nick

>

> Dear Janice,

> Yes I am here to ask serious questions about spinal problems....

> I just found out that I have this and I'm terrified. If someone

should think

> this is one big joke. They should leave the group and start their

own sick

> group.

> We are here to share and comfort one another. I do not know if

I'm going to

> live or be paralyzed from the neck down.

> So let us be kind. So Janice I'm with you.

> amy

>

> > Oh dear...I don't want to add to the mix...and I really do enjoy

a good

> joke..who doesn't? But when messages are really directed between

two people

> and they are way off the subject....I feel they should be

personally

> emailed. Regardless of the content.

> > Jan

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,

I can tell you'll be disappointed, but I can't flame you for

your opinion. I have offered people quite a good bit

of information on the 2 surgeries I've had. We do joke

around with each other.

I'm glad you're not quitting the newsgroup, that give me the

chance to drop to my knees and beg you to stay. And with

that, I'm dropping this group.

Good luck to everyone having surgery or recovering. For

those still on this list who give a crap, I'll know my results

and if I'll need surgery # 3 tomorrow.

joe

> I had thought that this was a

> group to assist those in pain with Spinal Disorders. Hardly a

> laughing matter for any of us that have it. I know Joe, if we don't

> laugh the we die but when a new person comes on here looking for

> intelligent information about the problems facing them they are not

> here to hear about your condom situation or if you are swapping

> pictures with someone on board....I think they have other groups for

> those topics as well. I am prepared to be flamed for this but must

> say it is disappointing to have to weed through messages in this

> group to get the useful information out. Just my 2 cents worth.

>

>