Re: NPF article

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back Pain

Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back,

your vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and

every visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also would

rotate that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial adjustment. I

don't believe that strong back muscles that support the back is the entire key

for a painless back. I think it does have a part in it but the structure and

abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the pain

and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are out of

whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of the

pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other issues go

away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to day. There are

parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them. When my clothes brush

against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area and the muscles around it

that are so tender I need to get that tennis ball or foam roll out a little

more often. But I don't think that will make the SI problem go away, just more

tolerable

Barbara <barbarac102@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back Pain

Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back, your

vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and every

visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also would rotate

that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial adjustment. I don't

believe that strong back muscles that support the back is the entire key for a

painless back. I think it does have a part in it but the structure and

abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the pain

and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are out of

whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views across.

The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the muscles will solve

your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that, because I don't believe

that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles is helpful, if only it was

that easy, huh?

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of the

pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other issues go

away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to day. There are

parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them. When my clothes brush

against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area and the muscles around it

that are so tender I need to get that tennis ball or foam roll out a little

more often. But I don't think that will make the SI problem go away, just more

tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back Pain

Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back, your

vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and every

visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also would rotate

that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial adjustment. I don't

believe that strong back muscles that support the back is the entire key for a

painless back. I think it does have a part in it but the structure and

abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the pain

and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are out of

whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

oh good

yeah, too bad any attempt at " strengthening " hurts so bad. From what I've read

and learned from personal experience, it really helps to get at any trigger

points and spasming muscles before even attempting to strengthen them. Some of

our muscles may be chronically tightened as a reaction to misaligned bones, old

injuries, or whatever it is causing our pain. Sort of like a defense mechanism,

our muscles react by staying tightened to protect the painful area. Hey, if

nothing else, it's a good excuse to get a deep tissue massage

Barbara <barbarac102@...> wrote:

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views across.

The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the muscles will solve

your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that, because I don't believe

that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles is helpful, if only it was

that easy, huh?

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of the

pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other issues go

away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to day. There are

parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them. When my clothes brush

against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area and the muscles around it

that are so tender I need to get that tennis ball or foam roll out a little

more often. But I don't think that will make the SI problem go away, just more

tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back Pain

Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back, your

vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and every

visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also would rotate

that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial adjustment. I don't

believe that strong back muscles that support the back is the entire key for a

painless back. I think it does have a part in it but the structure and

abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the pain

and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are out of

whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

If you have Fibro a deep tissue massage isn't a good idea. It will make you

hurt more which none of us want. Barbi

-- Re: NPF article

oh good

yeah, too bad any attempt at " strengthening " hurts so bad. From what I've

read and learned from personal experience, it really helps to get at any

trigger points and spasming muscles before even attempting to strengthen

them. Some of our muscles may be chronically tightened as a reaction to

misaligned bones, old injuries, or whatever it is causing our pain. Sort of

like a defense mechanism, our muscles react by staying tightened to protect

the painful area. Hey, if nothing else, it's a good excuse to get a deep

tissue massage

Barbara <barbarac102@...> wrote:

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views

across. The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the

muscles will solve your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that,

because I don't believe that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles

is helpful, if only it was that easy, huh?

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of

the pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other

issues go away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to

day. There are parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them.

When my clothes brush against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area

and the muscles around it that are so tender I need to get that tennis

ball or foam roll out a little more often. But I don't think that will make

the SI problem go away, just more tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back

Pain Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back,

your vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and

every visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also

would rotate that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial

adjustment. I don't believe that strong back muscles that support the back

is the entire key for a painless back. I think it does have a part in it but

the structure and abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the

pain and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are

out of whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

When I first got hurt, I had one, or at least I think it was suppose to be one

and she was concentrating on my pirifomis muscle and it did hurt more after.

I would like to get a massage from someone who really knew what they were

doing.

I would like the full treatment of diagnosing, treating and pampering. If I

was a star, I bet I could get it. Nice dream, huh?

Barbara

Barbi <texan.lady@...> wrote:

If you have Fibro a deep tissue massage isn't a good idea. It will make you

hurt more which none of us want. Barbi

-- Re: NPF article

oh good

yeah, too bad any attempt at " strengthening " hurts so bad. From what I've

read and learned from personal experience, it really helps to get at any

trigger points and spasming muscles before even attempting to strengthen

them. Some of our muscles may be chronically tightened as a reaction to

misaligned bones, old injuries, or whatever it is causing our pain. Sort of

like a defense mechanism, our muscles react by staying tightened to protect

the painful area. Hey, if nothing else, it's a good excuse to get a deep

tissue massage

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views

across. The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the

muscles will solve your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that,

because I don't believe that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles

is helpful, if only it was that easy, huh?

Tiff wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of

the pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other

issues go away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to

day. There are parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them.

When my clothes brush against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area

and the muscles around it that are so tender I need to get that tennis

ball or foam roll out a little more often. But I don't think that will make

the SI problem go away, just more tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back

Pain Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back,

your vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and

every visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also

would rotate that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial

adjustment. I don't believe that strong back muscles that support the back

is the entire key for a painless back. I think it does have a part in it but

the structure and abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the

pain and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are

out of whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

I had one when I lived in Washington state that knew how to give a massage

without hurting you. It helped my back and my Fibro too. She was really

good. Year ago here in Texas where I live now I had one for years that knew

how to do the same massage. Wish I could find one that does because I would

go once a week and I had less pain. Barbi

-- Re: NPF article

oh good

yeah, too bad any attempt at " strengthening " hurts so bad. From what I've

read and learned from personal experience, it really helps to get at any

trigger points and spasming muscles before even attempting to strengthen

them. Some of our muscles may be chronically tightened as a reaction to

misaligned bones, old injuries, or whatever it is causing our pain. Sort of

like a defense mechanism, our muscles react by staying tightened to protect

the painful area. Hey, if nothing else, it's a good excuse to get a deep

tissue massage

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views

across. The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the

muscles will solve your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that,

because I don't believe that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles

is helpful, if only it was that easy, huh?

Tiff wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of

the pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other

issues go away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to

day. There are parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them.

When my clothes brush against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area

and the muscles around it that are so tender I need to get that tennis

ball or foam roll out a little more often. But I don't think that will make

the SI problem go away, just more tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back

Pain Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back,

your vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and

every visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also

would rotate that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial

adjustment. I don't believe that strong back muscles that support the back

is the entire key for a painless back. I think it does have a part in it but

the structure and abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the

pain and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are

out of whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

The article was very interesting for me. Nothing I hadn't known

already. I believe highly in muscle strengthening excerises but I

don't believe it is the only cause of the pain. Unfortunately the

article doesn't talk about strengthening muscles in groups. Glutes

and abs, lower back and thighs.

My ortho surgeon refused to consider any options until I tried six

months of physical therapy after my back problem was diagnosed. For

that I am eternally grateful. The first thing I had to do before

strengthening excerises was stretch the muscles using heat. Then I

started exercises for my back. In the beginning my PT consisted of

about six minutes of exercise and then heat and a massage. Slowly I

was able to do about 20 minutes of exercise without my pain

increasing and within 3 months of being diagnosed and put on pain

meds I was off the meds and in considerable less pain.

I won't lie. The first couple of months was not always easy. Some

days the pain was horrible (regardless of the meds) and I was only

able to do a few minutes of the exercises, but I kept them up. I

still do those exercises today, I heat my lower back and stretch, do

the exercises, heat and stretch again. I also do exercises in a

pool, especially when my back is very sore.

Don't give up on trying natural ways to get rid of back pain.

Sometimes they take a little bit of time. Go slowly. Don't listen

to somebody who says you have to do so many minutes a day. As my

ortho surgeon and PT told me, do a couple; aim for the maximum amount

we agreed on, and quit if the pain increases.

I hope this might help someone else.

J.

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation

newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some

interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307

..asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in

managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce

the

pain and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and

nerves are

out of whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[Guest guest]

Oh wow, I didn't know that. You're right, none of us want added pain. I don't

have fibro, but that is sure good to know.

Thanks Barbi!

Barbi <texan.lady@...> wrote:

If you have Fibro a deep tissue massage isn't a good idea. It will

make you

hurt more which none of us want. Barbi

-- Re: NPF article

oh good

yeah, too bad any attempt at " strengthening " hurts so bad. From what I've

read and learned from personal experience, it really helps to get at any

trigger points and spasming muscles before even attempting to strengthen

them. Some of our muscles may be chronically tightened as a reaction to

misaligned bones, old injuries, or whatever it is causing our pain. Sort of

like a defense mechanism, our muscles react by staying tightened to protect

the painful area. Hey, if nothing else, it's a good excuse to get a deep

tissue massage

Barbara <barbarac102@...> wrote:

Hi ,

No, you didn't imply otherwise, it's probably just me getting my views

across. The book I mentioned and others seem to imply that fixing the

muscles will solve your problems and I imagine I was reacting to that,

because I don't believe that, but I do agree strengthening your back muscles

is helpful, if only it was that easy, huh?

Tiff <bestel63@...> wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I agree (hope I didn't imply otherwise) that the muscles are only part of

the pain problem. I don't think fixing the muscles will make our other

issues go away, but it may help reduce the amount of pain we are in day to

day. There are parts of my body that are so sore I can barely touch them.

When my clothes brush against my glutes... ouch! It's that sacroilliac area

and the muscles around it that are so tender I need to get that tennis

ball or foam roll out a little more often. But I don't think that will make

the SI problem go away, just more tolerable

Barbara wrote:

Hi ,

I haven't read the article yet but wanted to add that I have a book based on

this thought of strengthening the back muscles. It's called " Healing Back

Pain Naturally " .

My chiropractor always said that if your muscles were strong in your back,

your vertebrae would stay aligned better. I was going to him for months and

every visit the same disks were rotated to the left. My sacroiliac also

would rotate that way, but they stayed pretty stable after his initial

adjustment. I don't believe that strong back muscles that support the back

is the entire key for a painless back. I think it does have a part in it but

the structure and abnormalities have their share in the pain.

Ok, that's my take. I'll read the article next.

Barbara

Tiff wrote:

I don't know if any of you get the National Pain Foundation newsletter, but

here's a link to an article about back pain that may be of some interest to

some.

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/MyTreatment/Editorial_Marcus0307.asp

I really believe that managing the muscle aspect is a key factor in managing

backpain. Not a cure all of course, but hey, anything that may reduce the

pain and is non-invasive should be worth a shot. When bones and nerves are

out of whack, muscles also get out of whack.

Hope everyone is doing well,

---------------------------------

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love

(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.