Re: Lumbar Epidural Steroid Injection - Survey

[Guest guest]

My first set of injections 4 years ago did nothing for me...then I had back

surgery.

My back got worse with failed back syndrome and 2 more bulging discs, so

another set of shots. First one worked for a day, second worked for a week, and

the 3rd one was 2 months ago and still working.

I am never completely back pain free, but it did wonders for the sciatic pain.

No adverse reactions from any injections.

Tristan Jouvin <tristanjouvin99@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to them:

1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid injections, how

many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST injection, but then DID GET

IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or PERMANENT worsening

of pain after an epidural?

The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no benefit at all

from it. I had no side effects from it either. However, the doctor wants me to

try 2 more injections just in case they help. However, I am not sure that I want

to take a chance with any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of

getting the possible adverse reactions.

Tristan

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[Guest guest]

thanks Vivian. maybe there is hope for me then that the 2nd one will work even

though the 1st did'nt do much.

I had back surgery about 8 years ago. It took away the leg pain, but back pain

has persisted since then.

Vivian Harkness <vivianharkness@...> wrote:

My first set of injections 4 years ago did nothing for me...then I had

back surgery.

My back got worse with failed back syndrome and 2 more bulging discs, so another

set of shots. First one worked for a day, second worked for a week, and the 3rd

one was 2 months ago and still working.

I am never completely back pain free, but it did wonders for the sciatic pain.

No adverse reactions from any injections.

Tristan Jouvin <tristanjouvin99@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to them:

1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid injections, how

many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST injection, but then DID GET

IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or PERMANENT worsening

of pain after an epidural?

The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no benefit at all

from it. I had no side effects from it either. However, the doctor wants me to

try 2 more injections just in case they help. However, I am not sure that I want

to take a chance with any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of

getting the possible adverse reactions.

Tristan

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[Guest guest]

I had two ESIs, no improvement after either one.

I also had two medial branch blocks, no improvement after the first, but

prolonged (maybe permanent, but I'm not sure... it's " only " been two months)

pain after the second one (from a doctor who claims this is his

" specialty " ).

Everyone's body is different though, so YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). Good

luck, whatever you decide!

On 7/17/06, Tristan Jouvin <tristanjouvin99@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to them:

>

> 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

> injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST injection, but

> then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

>

> 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or PERMANENT

> worsening of pain after an epidural?

>

[Guest guest]

Hello:

I had 1 ESI in the Lubar area, and nothing. Then, a month later,

they did another one....nothing again. Then, I had a new MRI done,

and the MD's at the Pain Clinic told me there was not enough room to

get the fluid inside...perhaps they did this in the wrong

order...like maybe the MRI 1st ??? Supposed to be 1st class

neurosurgeons and pain specialists.

Stan

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

> >

> > 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

> > injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but

> > then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

> >

> > 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT

> > worsening of pain after an epidural?

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

> >

> > 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

> > injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but

> > then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

> >

> > 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT

> > worsening of pain after an epidural?

> >

> I have had 3 epideral steriod injections before My Merical

insurance was cancelled. NO IMPROVEMENT. For the time being I'm just

dealing with My pain Management with pain Medication. I am being

monitored by a Doctor evey month. At first i was on OXYCOTIN, now

I'm on Methadone.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a series of injections. Basically, the only improvement I had

was for about 4 to 5 hours after injection because of the numbing

medication they use, which numbed the nerve for a little while. I did

not notice any adverse reactions, but at the same time...didn't

really help either.

Hope this helps. I know the general rule of thumb is to try a course

or two. But, if your insurance will let you... I would almost say

skip it and go to the next step. Really haven't heard of many people

who have had any better luck from multiple injections.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

>

> 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

>

> 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

>

> The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

possible adverse reactions.

>

> Tristan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I had lumbar epidural (1) made things worse . had several in my neck , never

lasted very long ...

shaynal2003 <shaynal2003@...> wrote: I had a

series of injections. Basically, the only improvement I had

was for about 4 to 5 hours after injection because of the numbing

medication they use, which numbed the nerve for a little while. I did

not notice any adverse reactions, but at the same time...didn't

really help either.

Hope this helps. I know the general rule of thumb is to try a course

or two. But, if your insurance will let you... I would almost say

skip it and go to the next step. Really haven't heard of many people

who have had any better luck from multiple injections.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

>

> 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

>

> 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

>

> The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

possible adverse reactions.

>

> Tristan

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

I have for the most part had great relief from the shots and from RF ablation.

I think what is most important is to have a really great pain doctor, who really

gets to know you and your body.

And to be able to communicate to him exactlly where it hurts. If any one is in

new york, the doctors at beth israel hosp are great. Best marsha

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Re: Re: Lumbar Epidural Steroid Injection -

Survey

I had lumbar epidural (1) made things worse . had several in my neck , never

lasted very long ...

shaynal2003 <shaynal2003@ <mailto:shaynal2003%40> > wrote: I

had a series of injections. Basically, the only improvement I had

was for about 4 to 5 hours after injection because of the numbing

medication they use, which numbed the nerve for a little while. I did

not notice any adverse reactions, but at the same time...didn't

really help either.

Hope this helps. I know the general rule of thumb is to try a course

or two. But, if your insurance will let you... I would almost say

skip it and go to the next step. Really haven't heard of many people

who have had any better luck from multiple injections.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

>

> 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

>

> 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

>

> The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

possible adverse reactions.

>

> Tristan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree.  The first time I went through this process, it didn't work out

but the md's attitude was poor. This time, great md and great results

Re: Re: Lumbar Epidural Steroid Injection -

Survey

I had lumbar epidural (1) made things worse . had several in my neck , never

lasted very long ...

shaynal2003 <shaynal2003@ <mailto:shaynal2003%40> > wrote: I

had a series of injections. Basically, the only improvement I had

was for about 4 to 5 hours after injection because of the numbing

medication they use, which numbed the nerve for a little while. I did

not notice any adverse reactions, but at the same time...didn't

really help either.

Hope this helps. I know the general rule of thumb is to try a course

or two. But, if your insurance will let you... I would almost say

skip it and go to the next step. Really haven't heard of many people

who have had any better luck from multiple injections.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

them:

>

> 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

>

> 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

>

> The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

possible adverse reactions.

>

> Tristan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I suffer from DDD and have for many years, I have chronic pain and I am

wheelchair bound. I have been having the epidural injections as well as

the rf (radio frequency) neuro ablasion done for at least 7 years if

not more and I think it is wonderful. The epidural injections are

quicker acting but only last a couple of months, sometimes less, the rf

ablasion lasts longer anywhere from four to six months it is different

for everyone. I usually have the rf done and then they spot inject the

areas i still have pain in with the epidural. I get about 80 percent

relief for about 4 months with this regime. I am sorry to hear anyone

has reached the point of having to endure these procedures but there is

hope for temporary relief for those of us that live with chronic pain!

Every day is wonderful with just a bit of relief!!

[Guest guest]

I had the shots for years to put off surgery. My back was so bad that

I knew I needed surgery, but I wanted to delay as much as possible. I

tried the 3 shot series and the 2 shot series and what worked for me

was the 2 shot series and having it done 3x a year. I definitely

noticed a BIG difference from the 1st to the 2nd shot. I too, like

you, was skeptical after the 1st, but was pleasantly surprised after

the 2nd. It lasted for a couple of months and then I had to go in for

the next 2. I knew when I needed surgery because the shots stopped

working all together. My personal advise, unsolicited I know, is go

least invasive as long as possible. Give it a try and make up your

own mind. That is what I did and I was able to not have additional

surgery for 3 years. I just had a fusion and although I know I will

have to have more I am pleased at this point.

Hope it helps,

Lynda

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

> them:

> >

> > 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

> injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

> injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD injection?

> >

> > 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

> PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

> >

> > The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

> benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

> However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

> they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

> any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

> possible adverse reactions.

> >

> > Tristan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I did a series of three shots late last year, but they didn't really

help me and I had surgery, a L3-L5 spinal fusion in Feb.

But I knew when I was doing them that according to the doctor the

success rate was about 60% for people who had the problems that I did.

But I figured 60% was good enough odds to try them if they would keep me

from having surgery.

My husband also did them last year and he did not have much relief after

the 1st but noticed considerable improvement after the 2nd and even more

after the 3rd. He is someday going to have to have surgery ... but for

him, the shots have delayed it for a year already.

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I wanted to survey everyone to see if any of following apply to

> > them:

> > >

> > > 1) For anyone who has had MORE THAN ONE lumbar epidural steroid

> > injections, how many people had NO IMPROVEMENT after the 1ST

> > injection, but then DID GET IMPROVEMENT with the 2ND or 3RD

injection?

> > >

> > > 2) How many people had an adverse reaction, or PROLONGED or

> > PERMANENT worsening of pain after an epidural?

> > >

> > > The reason I am asking is because I had 1 epidural, and had no

> > benefit at all from it. I had no side effects from it either.

> > However, the doctor wants me to try 2 more injections just in case

> > they help. However, I am not sure that I want to take a chance with

> > any more since the 1st one did'nt work. I am scared of getting the

> > possible adverse reactions.

> > >

> > > Tristan

> > >

> > >

> > >

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