Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 No kidding, alley, in case you haven't noticed, these two get their jollies out of attacking me. they get pissed when you tell them you have no use for the conversation--they don't get it, there's no time in my protocol for unconstructive bullshit. I don't blame you for not posting, if they don't agree with you or they feel your position erroneous, you will be attacked. There's no moderator, so they CAN. If you want support and caring, go to jovo . ...Blessings, Satya [ ] Re: Can you help me? WOW, I know the liver is the angry organ and you are all warriors but this has been quite a nasty little exchange. I feel hesitant to post anything here because I don't want to fight with cyber people or have my observations attacked, I just want to fight my dragon.alley> > >my tests were PCR, not bDNA, except for the earlier ones. I > think you are > > >nitpicking,> > > > > > Satya,> > This is exactly what I said...do you even read what I write?? > Do you even > > understand why the bDNA tests cannot be compared directly to the > PCR > > tests? To do so, without taking into consideration the > overestimation of > > the viral load, is a misleading interpretation. It is important > to keep a > > proper perspective on what different treatment protocols can and > cannot > > do. When you speak of your improvements you don't need to > inflate your > > responses it provides misleading info to those who are > interested in > > finding out what their options are. In your case you > exaggerated the > > responses from your protocol into something they are not.> > > > > and I'm done even discussing my program with you anymore. You > are a > > > negative person, and not supportive of people's success unless > it's with > > > tx. ....> > > > That isn't my stance and you know that! I am very glad you > don't have more > > problems with your HCV and that is spoken from someone who has > been there > > and likely to regress back there. It is important not to give > misleading > > representation of what a person can expect out of taking any > form of > > treatment...those considered allopathic and those so-called > alternative.> > > > >the protocol I presently am taking contains the sho-saiko-> to....the only > > >reason Sloan Kettering is studying it is because they know they > will make > > >a bundle.> > > > > > How will they make money? It is not patentable, it is readily > available > > from many sources. It is called basic research and we the > people afflicted > > with HCV are the ones who will benefit. They will no doubt get > several > > publications out of the studies but that is far from making a > bundle.> > > > > You say you respect Jay Emmons and his work. Well it doesn't > seem so as > > > the protocol you are bashing is his.> > > > Since you don't read what I write it is no wonder you have a > problem > > understanding what my stance is. You have posted many protocols > from > > microhydrin to revensara oil and these I have bashed because > they deserve > > it and have done nothing for you or anyone else. I have not > bashed the > > sho-saiko-to protocol but I did point out to you that despite > your wish to > > believe that your protocol has brought down your viral load the > test > > results you post indicate otherwise. You also seem to forget > that I am > > also taking Jay's blend not to combat viral load but to help > normalize > > LFT's and hopefully retard the rate of fibrosis progression. > There is a > > growing body of evidence in support of this outcome and it has > great > > potential to help prevent fibrosis progression (although long-> term data is > > not yet available) and I certainly support that. Inflated > claims don't > > help anyone...yourself included!!> > > > regards,> > BobK > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Geez, Andy, isn't this a bit beneath you? Quite disturbing coming from a grown man. Methinks you go too far. Karolyn > > > >my tests were PCR, not bDNA, except for the earlier ones. I > > think you are > > > >nitpicking, > > > > > > > > > Satya, > > > This is exactly what I said...do you even read what I write?? > > Do you even > > > understand why the bDNA tests cannot be compared directly to > the > > PCR > > > tests? To do so, without taking into consideration the > > overestimation of > > > the viral load, is a misleading interpretation. It is > important > > to keep a > > > proper perspective on what different treatment protocols can > and > > cannot > > > do. When you speak of your improvements you don't need to > > inflate your > > > responses it provides misleading info to those who are > > interested in > > > finding out what their options are. In your case you > > exaggerated the > > > responses from your protocol into something they are not. > > > > > > > and I'm done even discussing my program with you anymore. > You > > are a > > > > negative person, and not supportive of people's success > unless > > it's with > > > > tx. .... > > > > > > That isn't my stance and you know that! I am very glad you > > don't have more > > > problems with your HCV and that is spoken from someone who has > > been there > > > and likely to regress back there. It is important not to give > > misleading > > > representation of what a person can expect out of taking any > > form of > > > treatment...those considered allopathic and those so-called > > alternative. > > > > > > >the protocol I presently am taking contains the sho-saiko- > > to....the only > > > >reason Sloan Kettering is studying it is because they know > they > > will make > > > >a bundle. > > > > > > > > > How will they make money? It is not patentable, it is readily > > available > > > from many sources. It is called basic research and we the > > people afflicted > > > with HCV are the ones who will benefit. They will no doubt > get > > several > > > publications out of the studies but that is far from making a > > bundle. > > > > > > > You say you respect Jay Emmons and his work. Well it doesn't > > seem so as > > > > the protocol you are bashing is his. > > > > > > Since you don't read what I write it is no wonder you have a > > problem > > > understanding what my stance is. You have posted many > protocols > > from > > > microhydrin to revensara oil and these I have bashed because > > they deserve > > > it and have done nothing for you or anyone else. I have not > > bashed the > > > sho-saiko-to protocol but I did point out to you that despite > > your wish to > > > believe that your protocol has brought down your viral load the > > test > > > results you post indicate otherwise. You also seem to forget > > that I am > > > also taking Jay's blend not to combat viral load but to help > > normalize > > > LFT's and hopefully retard the rate of fibrosis progression. > > There is a > > > growing body of evidence in support of this outcome and it has > > great > > > potential to help prevent fibrosis progression (although long- > > term data is > > > not yet available) and I certainly support that. Inflated > > claims don't > > > help anyone...yourself included!! > > > > > > regards, > > > BobK > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 You think... From: " thecelestialspirit " <thecelestialspirit@a...> Date: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:37 am Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Can you help me? fuck you andy > > > > >my tests were PCR, not bDNA, except for the earlier ones. I > > > think you are > > > > >nitpicking, > > > > > > > > > > > > Satya, > > > > This is exactly what I said...do you even read what I > write?? > > > Do you even > > > > understand why the bDNA tests cannot be compared directly to > > the > > > PCR > > > > tests? To do so, without taking into consideration the > > > overestimation of > > > > the viral load, is a misleading interpretation. It is > > important > > > to keep a > > > > proper perspective on what different treatment protocols can > > and > > > cannot > > > > do. When you speak of your improvements you don't need to > > > inflate your > > > > responses it provides misleading info to those who are > > > interested in > > > > finding out what their options are. In your case you > > > exaggerated the > > > > responses from your protocol into something they are not. > > > > > > > > > and I'm done even discussing my program with you anymore. > > You > > > are a > > > > > negative person, and not supportive of people's success > > unless > > > it's with > > > > > tx. .... > > > > > > > > That isn't my stance and you know that! I am very glad you > > > don't have more > > > > problems with your HCV and that is spoken from someone who > has > > > been there > > > > and likely to regress back there. It is important not to > give > > > misleading > > > > representation of what a person can expect out of taking any > > > form of > > > > treatment...those considered allopathic and those so- called > > > alternative. > > > > > > > > >the protocol I presently am taking contains the sho-saiko- > > > to....the only > > > > >reason Sloan Kettering is studying it is because they know > > they > > > will make > > > > >a bundle. > > > > > > > > > > > > How will they make money? It is not patentable, it is > readily > > > available > > > > from many sources. It is called basic research and we the > > > people afflicted > > > > with HCV are the ones who will benefit. They will no doubt > > get > > > several > > > > publications out of the studies but that is far from making a > > > bundle. > > > > > > > > > You say you respect Jay Emmons and his work. Well it > doesn't > > > seem so as > > > > > the protocol you are bashing is his. > > > > > > > > Since you don't read what I write it is no wonder you have a > > > problem > > > > understanding what my stance is. You have posted many > > protocols > > > from > > > > microhydrin to revensara oil and these I have bashed because > > > they deserve > > > > it and have done nothing for you or anyone else. I have not > > > bashed the > > > > sho-saiko-to protocol but I did point out to you that despite > > > your wish to > > > > believe that your protocol has brought down your viral load > the > > > test > > > > results you post indicate otherwise. You also seem to forget > > > that I am > > > > also taking Jay's blend not to combat viral load but to help > > > normalize > > > > LFT's and hopefully retard the rate of fibrosis progression. > > > There is a > > > > growing body of evidence in support of this outcome and it > has > > > great > > > > potential to help prevent fibrosis progression (although long- > > > term data is > > > > not yet available) and I certainly support that. Inflated > > > claims don't > > > > help anyone...yourself included!! > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > BobK > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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