Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Are you a trashman? [ ] alt/med > > > > > > > It is not easy to define a general profile of the altmed user, but > > > there > > > are some general tendencies. > > > That users of altmed are high consumers of medical care in > general is > > > confirmed by several studies (in average of course). > > > Switzerland: > > > " Nature, " 395: 316, 1998. " Reimbursing the costs of > > > complementary > > > or alternative medicine, which is widely accepted in Switzerland, > > > would > > > not result in savings for national health insurance companies, > > > according > > > to a study recently released by the Centre for Economics (WWZ) of > the > > > University of Basel. The study compared adults who take out > extra > > > insurance for complementary therapies with those who have only > health > > > insurance for conventional treatments. It found that patients > mostly > > > used complementary medicine in combination with conventional > medicine, > > > rather than relying on it alone. If national health insurance > > > companies > > > were to offer to reimburse their costs generally, says Jurg > Sommer of > > > the WWZ, national costs would rise. " > > > Belgium survey 1998: > > > two thirds of persons using altmed (9% of population) are taking > > > concurrently also normal medication. > > > Another Belgian survey showed that altmed users were below average > > > happy > > > with their health. > > > A Medline search for e.g " cancer and alternative medicine " (or > > > specify > > > a kind of altmed), gives many hits. I have dozens of articles in > file > > > on the use of altmed by patients with serious problems (cancers, > MS, > > > ALS, ...) The majority of them uses altmed (or tries it for a > while) > > > without stopping normal treatment. > > > Also several articles indicate a relationship between the use of > > > altmed > > > and distress, or depression, or generally being " not happy " > > > One article in Bone Marrow Transplant concludes: " Use of > alternative > > > therapy for breast cancer outside of the hospital setting has been > > > identified as a marker of psychological distress " > > > A Norwegian study concludes: > > > " Nineteen per cent of the general population, most often suffering > > > from > > > musculo-skeletal pain, had tried acupuncture treatment. Lack of > effect > > > of conventional medicine was most often given as the reason to try > > > acupuncture. Acupuncture patients had tried other kinds of > alternative > > > medicine twice as often as others, most often homeopathy (P<0.01). > > > Acupuncture patients visit their GP more often (P<0.01), and are > more > > > concerned about own health (P<0.01) than patients who have not > tried > > > acupuncture. " > > > Conclusions: > > > Contrary to what altmed proponents claim: recognition of altmed > will > > > not > > > cut the costs of healthcare. Most people use altmed because the > > > are " not > > > happy " for whatever reason or even without cause.. > > > Perhaps we should try to differentiate the motives of patients > who > > > take > > > it as a last straw, out of despair for a chronic or fatal disease > and > > > those who use it for other reasons (psychosomatic, > hypochondriacs, new > > > age faith, back to nature, advice from well meaning friends,...). > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Are you the yolk? hee hee [ ] alt/med > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not easy to define a general profile of the altmed > user, but > > > > > there > > > > > are some general tendencies. > > > > > That users of altmed are high consumers of medical care in > > > general is > > > > > confirmed by several studies (in average of course). > > > > > Switzerland: > > > > > " Nature, " 395: 316, 1998. " Reimbursing the costs of > > > > > complementary > > > > > or alternative medicine, which is widely accepted in > Switzerland, > > > > > would > > > > > not result in savings for national health insurance companies, > > > > > according > > > > > to a study recently released by the Centre for Economics > (WWZ) of > > > the > > > > > University of Basel. The study compared adults who take out > > > extra > > > > > insurance for complementary therapies with those who have only > > > health > > > > > insurance for conventional treatments. It found that patients > > > mostly > > > > > used complementary medicine in combination with conventional > > > medicine, > > > > > rather than relying on it alone. If national health insurance > > > > > companies > > > > > were to offer to reimburse their costs generally, says Jurg > > > Sommer of > > > > > the WWZ, national costs would rise. " > > > > > Belgium survey 1998: > > > > > two thirds of persons using altmed (9% of population) are > taking > > > > > concurrently also normal medication. > > > > > Another Belgian survey showed that altmed users were below > average > > > > > happy > > > > > with their health. > > > > > A Medline search for e.g " cancer and alternative medicine " > (or > > > > > specify > > > > > a kind of altmed), gives many hits. I have dozens of > articles in > > > file > > > > > on the use of altmed by patients with serious problems > (cancers, > > > MS, > > > > > ALS, ...) The majority of them uses altmed (or tries it for a > > > while) > > > > > without stopping normal treatment. > > > > > Also several articles indicate a relationship between the use > of > > > > > altmed > > > > > and distress, or depression, or generally being " not happy " > > > > > One article in Bone Marrow Transplant concludes: " Use of > > > alternative > > > > > therapy for breast cancer outside of the hospital setting has > been > > > > > identified as a marker of psychological distress " > > > > > A Norwegian study concludes: > > > > > " Nineteen per cent of the general population, most often > suffering > > > > > from > > > > > musculo-skeletal pain, had tried acupuncture treatment. Lack > of > > > effect > > > > > of conventional medicine was most often given as the reason > to try > > > > > acupuncture. Acupuncture patients had tried other kinds of > > > alternative > > > > > medicine twice as often as others, most often homeopathy > (P<0.01). > > > > > Acupuncture patients visit their GP more often (P<0.01), and > are > > > more > > > > > concerned about own health (P<0.01) than patients who have not > > > tried > > > > > acupuncture. " > > > > > Conclusions: > > > > > Contrary to what altmed proponents claim: recognition of > altmed > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > cut the costs of healthcare. Most people use altmed because > the > > > > > are " not > > > > > happy " for whatever reason or even without cause.. > > > > > Perhaps we should try to differentiate the motives of > patients > > > who > > > > > take > > > > > it as a last straw, out of despair for a chronic or fatal > disease > > > and > > > > > those who use it for other reasons (psychosomatic, > > > hypochondriacs, new > > > > > age faith, back to nature, advice from well meaning > friends,...). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Your eggs aren't cracked are they? [ ] alt/med > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not easy to define a general profile of the altmed > user, but > > > > > there > > > > > are some general tendencies. > > > > > That users of altmed are high consumers of medical care in > > > general is > > > > > confirmed by several studies (in average of course). > > > > > Switzerland: > > > > > " Nature, " 395: 316, 1998. " Reimbursing the costs of > > > > > complementary > > > > > or alternative medicine, which is widely accepted in > Switzerland, > > > > > would > > > > > not result in savings for national health insurance companies, > > > > > according > > > > > to a study recently released by the Centre for Economics > (WWZ) of > > > the > > > > > University of Basel. The study compared adults who take out > > > extra > > > > > insurance for complementary therapies with those who have only > > > health > > > > > insurance for conventional treatments. It found that patients > > > mostly > > > > > used complementary medicine in combination with conventional > > > medicine, > > > > > rather than relying on it alone. If national health insurance > > > > > companies > > > > > were to offer to reimburse their costs generally, says Jurg > > > Sommer of > > > > > the WWZ, national costs would rise. " > > > > > Belgium survey 1998: > > > > > two thirds of persons using altmed (9% of population) are > taking > > > > > concurrently also normal medication. > > > > > Another Belgian survey showed that altmed users were below > average > > > > > happy > > > > > with their health. > > > > > A Medline search for e.g " cancer and alternative medicine " > (or > > > > > specify > > > > > a kind of altmed), gives many hits. I have dozens of > articles in > > > file > > > > > on the use of altmed by patients with serious problems > (cancers, > > > MS, > > > > > ALS, ...) The majority of them uses altmed (or tries it for a > > > while) > > > > > without stopping normal treatment. > > > > > Also several articles indicate a relationship between the use > of > > > > > altmed > > > > > and distress, or depression, or generally being " not happy " > > > > > One article in Bone Marrow Transplant concludes: " Use of > > > alternative > > > > > therapy for breast cancer outside of the hospital setting has > been > > > > > identified as a marker of psychological distress " > > > > > A Norwegian study concludes: > > > > > " Nineteen per cent of the general population, most often > suffering > > > > > from > > > > > musculo-skeletal pain, had tried acupuncture treatment. Lack > of > > > effect > > > > > of conventional medicine was most often given as the reason > to try > > > > > acupuncture. Acupuncture patients had tried other kinds of > > > alternative > > > > > medicine twice as often as others, most often homeopathy > (P<0.01). > > > > > Acupuncture patients visit their GP more often (P<0.01), and > are > > > more > > > > > concerned about own health (P<0.01) than patients who have not > > > tried > > > > > acupuncture. " > > > > > Conclusions: > > > > > Contrary to what altmed proponents claim: recognition of > altmed > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > cut the costs of healthcare. Most people use altmed because > the > > > > > are " not > > > > > happy " for whatever reason or even without cause.. > > > > > Perhaps we should try to differentiate the motives of > patients > > > who > > > > > take > > > > > it as a last straw, out of despair for a chronic or fatal > disease > > > and > > > > > those who use it for other reasons (psychosomatic, > > > hypochondriacs, new > > > > > age faith, back to nature, advice from well meaning > friends,...). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 It's magic. Cute. [ ] alt/med > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not easy to define a general profile of the altmed > > > user, but > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > are some general tendencies. > > > > > > > That users of altmed are high consumers of medical care in > > > > > general is > > > > > > > confirmed by several studies (in average of course). > > > > > > > Switzerland: > > > > > > > " Nature, " 395: 316, 1998. " Reimbursing the costs of > > > > > > > complementary > > > > > > > or alternative medicine, which is widely accepted in > > > Switzerland, > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > not result in savings for national health insurance > companies, > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > to a study recently released by the Centre for Economics > > > (WWZ) of > > > > > the > > > > > > > University of Basel. The study compared adults who > take out > > > > > extra > > > > > > > insurance for complementary therapies with those who have > only > > > > > health > > > > > > > insurance for conventional treatments. It found that > patients > > > > > mostly > > > > > > > used complementary medicine in combination with > conventional > > > > > medicine, > > > > > > > rather than relying on it alone. If national health > insurance > > > > > > > companies > > > > > > > were to offer to reimburse their costs generally, says > Jurg > > > > > Sommer of > > > > > > > the WWZ, national costs would rise. " > > > > > > > Belgium survey 1998: > > > > > > > two thirds of persons using altmed (9% of population) are > > > taking > > > > > > > concurrently also normal medication. > > > > > > > Another Belgian survey showed that altmed users were below > > > average > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > with their health. > > > > > > > A Medline search for e.g " cancer and alternative > medicine " > > > (or > > > > > > > specify > > > > > > > a kind of altmed), gives many hits. I have dozens of > > > articles in > > > > > file > > > > > > > on the use of altmed by patients with serious problems > > > (cancers, > > > > > MS, > > > > > > > ALS, ...) The majority of them uses altmed (or tries it > for a > > > > > while) > > > > > > > without stopping normal treatment. > > > > > > > Also several articles indicate a relationship between the > use > > > of > > > > > > > altmed > > > > > > > and distress, or depression, or generally being " not > happy " > > > > > > > One article in Bone Marrow Transplant concludes: " Use of > > > > > alternative > > > > > > > therapy for breast cancer outside of the hospital setting > has > > > been > > > > > > > identified as a marker of psychological distress " > > > > > > > A Norwegian study concludes: > > > > > > > " Nineteen per cent of the general population, most often > > > suffering > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > musculo-skeletal pain, had tried acupuncture treatment. > Lack > > > of > > > > > effect > > > > > > > of conventional medicine was most often given as the > reason > > > to try > > > > > > > acupuncture. Acupuncture patients had tried other kinds of > > > > > alternative > > > > > > > medicine twice as often as others, most often homeopathy > > > (P<0.01). > > > > > > > Acupuncture patients visit their GP more often (P<0.01), > and > > > are > > > > > more > > > > > > > concerned about own health (P<0.01) than patients who > have not > > > > > tried > > > > > > > acupuncture. " > > > > > > > Conclusions: > > > > > > > Contrary to what altmed proponents claim: recognition of > > > altmed > > > > > will > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > cut the costs of healthcare. Most people use altmed > because > > > the > > > > > > > are " not > > > > > > > happy " for whatever reason or even without cause.. > > > > > > > Perhaps we should try to differentiate the motives of > > > patients > > > > > who > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > it as a last straw, out of despair for a chronic or fatal > > > disease > > > > > and > > > > > > > those who use it for other reasons (psychosomatic, > > > > > hypochondriacs, new > > > > > > > age faith, back to nature, advice from well meaning > > > friends,...). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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