Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Sue, If you go to http://www.heavenlywater.com, you will find a book called Choose Life or Death, written by Carey Reams who created a formula that explains healing based on the pH of the urine and saliva. It's called RBTI, and he used it to cure 100% any disease, until his death. There are very few practitioners left who teach this, and Chalen Waycoff is one of Carey's original students. Even if you don't completely follow the entire program, there are so many useful things within the program, understanding them improves your quality of life exponentially. The program is designed to create energy in the body, which is the purpose of the lemon drink I talked about. When it's a liver disorder, one of the first things that's noticed is energy loss. Small changes make big differences. For instance, being on a REGULAR schedule is essential for the body to heal. One of the next more important parts of this program is proper water intake. Many people have been using water ONLY to heal, see http://www.watercure.com/. I think that this site explains a lot of info, and has many resources. All natural health care practitioners will agree that dehydration and proper rest are the most obvious things ignored in healing. RBTI goes on to explain that foods such as tuna and pork are dangerous to healing because they put too much acid into the body, too quickly. It's like putting jet fuel into a car engine, it blows gaskets out. Carey Reams was first a chemist and worked out these theories mathematically, and then later in his life saw relevance to health situtations, which led to his formulation of the energy formula that you will find fully explained in the book. Nearly 10 years ago, I was tested by a Reams testor and examined all of my health issues based on this equation. Here's what we discovered: I was severely dehydrated. My diet was a combination of feasts of high acids and famines of dehydration, with little rest and too much stress. A formula for disease and malfunction of bodily functions. Nearly all my health complaints disappeared when I drank the lemon water, 2 oz every 1/2 hour for 10 hours a day. Imagine doing this. Nothing else happened during that time. I literally spent my entire day drinking water. This is why Reams took people into a retreat setting to heal and bring the body's formula back into balance. Most of the fad diets that are coming out now, are just spin offs and updates of the Reams program of alkalization, ie: restoring the mineral balance of the body. The most well-known now is the InnerLight SuperGreen's alkalarian diet, as shown in the book, The pH Miracle. The pH Miracle does the quantum alkalization with supplementation and diet, ignoring the need for rest and reduced stress. The truth may well be, that we need to alter our lifestyles entirely to heal and be well. For some people, they don't know what it feels like to be relaxed. I know that sounds odd, but that's why people are getting so excited about essential oils for stress. They never knew it could feel so good naturally, without a hangover. Essential oils address a vital part of the healing equation by altering the brain wave activity by simply smelling an oil. This creates a chemical response within the body, without horsing down pills. Specifically, Dr. Gumbel wrote about the effect of lavender on the liver function in terms of physiological response, in his book, Principles of Holistic Therapy Using Herbal Essences. It's not just another pretty smell, it's a chemical reaction within the body. It may not be possible to heal until people understand how the body wants to get well. I'm less inclined to accept that my body has a deficiency in some experimental drug, before I examine if I'm wearing it out without the proper mineral supplementation or water intake or rest for it to rebuild. Because the body is self healing. At some point the batteries do get worn out, and that's what the RBTI addresses specifically. Homeopathy also doesn't work once the body goes beyond it's ability to respond energetically. In either case, it's a matter of energetics, which is why I do what I do as a practitioner. If you take the time, Sue, to read this book by Carey Reams, and the one by Dr. Elmiger, MD, Rediscovering Real Medicine, it will reframe the way you look at healing. It's by no means the only answer or the most complete answer, but it's the best starting point with really good solid information. It may well be, that drug therapies are effective to cut back rapid tumor growth or viral load numbers in order to buy time. But what's missing in the protocols, imho, is the effective reversal of the residuals of those drup therapies inevitable iatrogenic complications. There is always trade off with every drug therapy, and risks. The only risk in drinking lemon water is that you may experience a headache for week while your body is discharging toxins rapidly. Hopefully, the organs of elimination are functioning well, and there's not much resistence as they pass out of the body. This is why many natural practitioners will support kidney, heart, colon, and concentrate on liver function while the body is healing. Hep C is more a viral condition than it is a true " liver " problem. Anyway, you get the general idea. This is why, after reading the Microhydrin posts, I totally understand why this person is promoting the products. They DO work, because they create energy in the body. Creating energy in the body is THE way the body fights disease. The body will create a fever to burn out pathogens. The fever is not the problem, the fever is the friend. The body is our friend. I've talked a lot about this on my list natural_healing . Since the body always makes the " best " decision to heal us, and protect us, we need to think outside the box and rediscover how to ASSIST that process, rather than trying to KILL the body's natural function. Carey Reams would call this increasing the body's RESERVE ENERGY, and would recommend specific strategies based on the chemical reactions coming out of the urine and saliva pH readings. Some of those recommendations would include adding a green drink to the diet. What I've observed is that people with a weak earth element, are going to respond quickly and easily to this treatment, but someone with a weak metal element are going to be stressed after long periods of time. This is why the treatment would work in the short term, but would not be effective for longer periods of time, for people with weak metal. For people with a deficient wood condition, lots of earth is ideal, because earth (green drinks) penetrate wood (liver issues). It's also interesting, in terms of the latest bruhaha on this list that a little earth, which represents the emotion of sympathy. Earth which controls the organs of the stomach, spleen, and pancreas, nourishes the flesh, the flesh strengthens the lungs, and the stomach rules over the mouth. Judging by all the mouthing off on this list, a little earth can go a long way, here. Of course, these are just observations based on the Chinese five element theory, which may or may not be acceptable as a governing system of health for the more medically inclined. I use the voice print to determine the energetic dominance, the medical astrology chart in the 6th harmonic to determine the element distribution, and the face, posture, appearance and demeanor of the individual to determine the immediate course of treatment to suggest to the client. Ultimately, the will of the client normally determines their ability to resolve a deficiency or defeat a toxicity, which is related to the water element, the kidneys and bladder. I'd much rather work with spirited angry wood types who are sensing the need to defend their " soul " . The wood element controls the soul, according to Taoists. The problem that is faced when dealing with toxic wood, or liver issues, is that sight is also affected. So getting the liver toxic client to SEE the problem, presents it's own interesting dilemmas. So, ultimately, it's important for each person to become familiar with these healing principles, and judge for themselves where they stand or fall, and for them to seek out practitioners who are skilled in assisting in the treatment of their choice. It's very nice to see an acupuncturist, who just sticks needles in the body, no need for thinking or taking responsibility, just a few uncomfortable needle pricks. That may not appeal to an AIR type of person who has a desire to intellectualize each of their decisions, and make conscious choices. This is why it IS so difficult to design a one-size fits all treatment program, including medical approaches, because they need to meet the needs of the individual's temperament and type, not just a blood test or biopsy. This is the shortfall of current medical treatments. They fail to address the root issue of what brought the body into dis-ease. Of course, this only touches on possible treatment of a toxic liver condition, in terms of this list's interests. Prescribing a treatment without understanding more about dominant/deficient/toxic conditions of the body doesn't serve anyone. Using a product like Microhydrin would very much address an energy problem, but may not be the cure that some are looking for, though the body may respond nicely by defeating the largest of the virus and bring the numbers down, simply by creating reserve energy. This is why Carey Reams relied heavily on green drinks, mineral supplementation, and also parasite cleansing, which we haven't even heard a peep about on this list, yet. Certainly parasites are involved in any breakdown the body's natural function and immunity status. Perhaps we'll save that for yet another round of threads on wholistic approaches to healing. Warmest regards, Moe " It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more medicines. " ~ Hahnemann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Thank you Moe, I read what you had to say with much interest, please dont be offended if I feel I cannot (as of right now) agree or disagree with what you said, it sounds incredibly interesting although truthfully a little far fetched to me, I will however read Carey Reams book and perhaps we can discuss this at lenght, in the mean time I will try the lemon water because I think that it reads sound advice to me(I need to read written word to imprint) I'm not too sure of the "green" thing only because I know medically iron and vitamin A are hard for a sick liver to deal with and I really dont want to stress my liver as its not in good shape. I really appreciate the time you took to answer my post and that in itsself shows me that you are a very careing person and not just someone promoting a product. Thank you again and I will read the books you mentioned (give me about a week or so to get back to you on it. ) Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 thanks, Moe, I heartily agree with you about a balanced list--I like to hear ALL views. Can you recommend any lists besides jovo that advocate more alternative views? I'd like to subscribe to some of them--(I am and will always stay on a natural protocol myself)--also I was extremely interested in your info on the G# (music therapy?) for the liver. Where can I find out more info on this?--I'm a musician, and one of the instruments I play is the African mbira. I'm sure I could have one made for me in the G# tuning--One more question--is there a list that you post on frequently? Your posts have intrigued me more than any others and am interested in more of your views. So glad you decided to post again......thanks, Satya [ ] a balanced list I think that this list is very balanced, and I mostly observe what's coming through, rather than commenting on it. Because I'm a holistic practitioner, I'm accustomed to seeing a very conservative medical approach with my new clients. This list represents the status quo in treatment for Hep C, and is moderately tolerant of alternative health options. I think (not that my opinion matters, but why not comment anyway, he he he) that people like Jeanine BRING balance to this list and her comments are forceful, from my estimation, because the overwhelming majority of lock step with currently accepted medical treatments that are promoted and supported from this list.While we're on the subject of balance, I've never seen this list support alt treatments, and always refer to doctor's care, who are neither trained nor interested in alt treatments. All for different reasons, like educational background, insurance, and time issues. When you do find a good doctor that understands more about how the body heals, and focusing less on the pathology of the body, you're incredibly lucky indeed.And finally, the emotional nature of liver disorder is ANGER. So, rather than be all excited that people are forcefully defending their views, alt or medical, it's perfectly "natural" for these outbursts to become emotional. After all, we're talking about diseased and toxic livers, eh?So, I'm pretty much expecting that the more I sit on this list and observe, the more I'll see people actually expressing interest and using natural medicines and finding effective and useful uses for them. Maybe some people will even start using the simple lemon, in a 9 part water to 1 part lemon dillution, made into a juice to assist the liver discharge toxins and create energy. This is what the famed Carey Reams taught, you can find more info about RBTI that he used at http://www.heavenlywater.com. I have to stop myself from going on and on with urls and references, because this list is somewhat intolerant of suggestions that represent a more natural treatment of the body. I've posted before about how to relieve g# toxicity, and how to bring the body into balance so it can heal itself, because the body's most regenerative organ is the liver, isn't it? My clients are using the Liver Soak, the KBL-EX and the VIR-EX and the HBH series LIV-SYS-EX (to deal with the genetic miasms associated with liver disorder), from http://www.dnrinc.com. After much cajoling, insiders have shared with me that viral loads are being cut in half in under 6 months. Of course, these are just personal testimonials, and not clear cut clinical trials. Clinical trials are mostly reserved for pharmaceutical companies seeking AMA and FDA approval, and not one alt medicine group will ever be able to find the $$ for that kind of work. We're comparing apples and oranges.The stats bear it out...... most people who seek out alt practitioners, roughly 85%, do so to reduce the side effects of their medical treatments. There's only 12% out there who are purists, like me, Jeanine, and whoever else is reluctant to toss their hat into the pile, lurking in the depths of this list. So if there's just 12% of purists out there in this list somewhere, then we represent the general populations pretty well as a list. I wouldn't really expect more unless some resurgence in some therapy/herb/treatment where to storm onto the scene. The stats also bear out, that the people who do get resolution to their "condition" rarely stand on soap boxes to shout out the remedy. Nope, they do the exactly opposite in fact, they go quietly about their lives with a reverence that perhaps they were one of the lucky few that beat the odds. It's human nature. Once you understand the nature of genetic miasms in play, you understand the healing or lack of healing process much better.Has anyone read Rediscovering Real Medicine, by Dr. Elmiger, MD, yet??? These internet lists really are the vanguard of info in this world. We're lucky to have them.... blessed, indeed.Peace,Moe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It's supposed to be a secret, but I'll tell you anyway. We doctors do nothing. We only help and encourage the doctor within." Albert Schweitzer, M.D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more medicines." ~ Hahnemann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 WOW! Moe--THANKS! I can't wait to pursue this MUCH further....My background is as a yoga instructor, polarity therapist, and Reiki 2 practitioner, (I use crystals too)--and a little EFT (as well as a musician, as I said), so your approach makes SO much sense to me---I am already using herbal protocols(Dr. Zhang) and have recently added colostrum. I've been leaning towards Microhydrin also, because this also makes great sense to me, as well as your thoughts on the importance of ridding the body of parasites. I so appreciate the time you took to write that most informative post for me. I will devour the info greedily, as I had tried to glean some info from your posts long ago, but usually came to a dead end. Now that I know the places that you post, I'll be taking advantage of your evident expertise on an ongoing basis. Thanks so much again, and BLESS you, Sir! Sincerely yours, Satya Re: [ ] a balanced listthanks, Moe, I heartily agree with you about a balanced list--I like to hear ALL views. Can you recommend any lists besides jovo that advocate more alternative views? I'd like to subscribe to some of them--(I am and will always stay on a natural protocol myself)--also I was extremely interested in your info on the G# (music therapy?) for the liver. Where can I find out more info on this?--I'm a musician, and one of the instruments I play is the African mbira. I'm sure I could have one made for me in the G# tuning--One more question--is there a list that you post on frequently? Your posts have intrigued me more than any others and am interested in more of your views. So glad you decided to post again......thanks, Satya Satya,Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm for sound. One of the things you may have missed in the post about G#, was that in order to move the liver dominance from G#, you work with the inverse, which is C, C#, and D chords, which incidentally include the keys that many love songs are written in. Small coincidence?I'm the list owner of natural_healing , and we've been talking about these things for the last 6 years, nearly 4 on .... times they are a flying. There is a huge online archive there. I'm also a frequent poster to the cures for cancer regarding specific hard cases. I used to teach for http://www.cnhp.org, before my family went from 2 to 6 kids in the space of 4 years, and am in close contact with Tom Slider, ND, who still teaches with them. Tom Slider is also on the board of directors for the company that I'm always talking about http://www.dnrinc.com. You'll notice that I'm most interested in energetic forms, and over the past 4 years, I've moved away from my master herbalist background, because of product adulteration and lack of good sources. It was frustrating to me, to talk about an herbal formula and it's uses, and for people to source from unreliable suppliers and not get the results we were talking about. When you are dealing with natural products, fresh is best, and quality matters. What you can grow yourself or pick out of your own yard is even better, if possible. Hanna Kroger, famous herbalist, once said that everything that you need for healing, God's place within crawling distance of you, about 300 yards. Go find it, she says.I have a few other places that I post more technical information, and I'm looking for a publisher to look at my collection of articles on healing and seeing if they can go anywhere "mainstream." There is an entire subculture of natural healers throughout the US, in organizations like http://www.cnhp.org, the Cancer Control Society, http://www.bodytalksystems.com, numberous NLP organizations throughout the country (one of my fav healing books is Heart of the Mind, by Connierae s), http://www.heilkunst.com/, and others with practitioners who are simplifying and teaching throughout the country about the root issues that underlie the body's latent healing ability. I'm going to be more interested in understanding why we're sick, before attempting to resolve the body's intelligent response, because the body is always doing the RIGHT thing, not the wrong thing, when it's fighting disease. What we need to do, is JOIN the body by increasing resistance and building the life force appropriately. Too often, we read a remedy or find a cookbook approach that worked for someone, and we ignore the way our body wants to use it's resources to heal. As I suggest in earlier posts, a metal deficient person will use a different system than an earth dominant person. From sound therapy, we can know that someone who is dominant in one energy pattern will not use any nutrition in that dominant class. We utilize a database that categorizes all nutrition by specific hertz, so there's absolutely no guesswork involved. It's all by the numbers.I'd like to think that most of my associations with BodyTalkers, GeoTran language facilitators, NLP practitioners, esp are not on the fringe of the healing community. However, in a private post, someone did challenge me, by saying something like, why are these things so secret if they work so good. And the answer is that they are absolutely not secret, and there are more and more people using various systems of healing, even outside nutritional therapies (which have a LOT of limitations, imho, because most disease is based in the emotional body and in genetic miams.. programming, etc). But the problem is that whenever someone starts to talk about them, the sky starts falling in on them with accusations from people who have agendas that compromise the free flow of information for some reason or another.I remember about 15 years ago, when my mother suggested that I go see an acupuncturist for energy, because her acupuncturist was so good, and she had stopped smoking and had gotten a lot of help with some personal control issues. It was nearly UNHEARD of to see these people, because they also did various forms of divination and were in CHINATOWN! This was when we lived in NYC, and there were just stil areas of NY were only the naive would venture.Even now, when my daughter was telling someone in church that her mom works with sound therapy and analyzes voices, their eyebrows went up!!All therapies have their limitations, but the reason that I focus on sound, is that it gives access to so many other ways to put energy into the body, because nutrition is only part of our energetics. I'll post a link to my original article on sound that was published almost 3 years ago, so you can find out more. It includes some other important references also.Warmly,Moe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Learn more about Sound Therapy using Voice BioAnalysis!!http://www.planetvermont.com/pvq/v8n4/sound-therapy.html~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 From: " thecelestialspirit " <thecelestialspirit@a...> Date: Fri Oct 4, 2002 6:35 am Subject: Re: [ ] a balanced list thanks, Moe, I heartily agree with you about a balanced list--I like to hear ALL views. Can you recommend any lists besides jovo that advocate more alternative views? I'd like to subscribe to some of them--(I am and will always stay on a natural protocol myself)--also I was extremely interested in your info on the G# (music therapy?) for the liver. Where can I find out more info on this?--I'm a musician, and one of the instruments I play is the African mbira. I'm sure I could have one made for me in the G# tuning--One more question--is there a list that you post on frequently? Your posts have intrigued me more than any others and am interested in more of your views. So glad you decided to post again......thanks, Satya Satya, Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm for sound. One of the things you may have missed in the post about G#, was that in order to move the liver dominance from G#, you work with the inverse, which is C, C#, and D chords, which incidentally include the keys that many love songs are written in. Small coincidence? I'm the list owner of natural_healing , and we've been talking about these things for the last 6 years, nearly 4 on .... times they are a flying. There is a huge online archive there. I'm also a frequent poster to the cures for cancer regarding specific hard cases. I used to teach for http://www.cnhp.org, before my family went from 2 to 6 kids in the space of 4 years, and am in close contact with Tom Slider, ND, who still teaches with them. Tom Slider is also on the board of directors for the company that I'm always talking about http://www.dnrinc.com. You'll notice that I'm most interested in energetic forms, and over the past 4 years, I've moved away from my master herbalist background, because of product adulteration and lack of good sources. It was frustrating to me, to talk about an herbal formula and it's uses, and for people to source from unreliable suppliers and not get the results we were talking about. When you are dealing with natural products, fresh is best, and quality matters. What you can grow yourself or pick out of your own yard is even better, if possible. Hanna Kroger, famous herbalist, once said that everything that you need for healing, God's place within crawling distance of you, about 300 yards. Go find it, she says. I have a few other places that I post more technical information, and I'm looking for a publisher to look at my collection of articles on healing and seeing if they can go anywhere " mainstream. " There is an entire subculture of natural healers throughout the US, in organizations like http://www.cnhp.org, the Cancer Control Society, http://www.bodytalksystems.com, numberous NLP organizations throughout the country (one of my fav healing books is Heart of the Mind, by Connierae s), http://www.heilkunst.com/, and others with practitioners who are simplifying and teaching throughout the country about the root issues that underlie the body's latent healing ability. I'm going to be more interested in understanding why we're sick, before attempting to resolve the body's intelligent response, because the body is always doing the RIGHT thing, not the wrong thing, when it's fighting disease. What we need to do, is JOIN the body by increasing resistance and building the life force appropriately. Too often, we read a remedy or find a cookbook approach that worked for someone, and we ignore the way our body wants to use it's resources to heal. As I suggest in earlier posts, a metal deficient person will use a different system than an earth dominant person. From sound therapy, we can know that someone who is dominant in one energy pattern will not use any nutrition in that dominant class. We utilize a database that categorizes all nutrition by specific hertz, so there's absolutely no guesswork involved. It's all by the numbers. I'd like to think that most of my associations with BodyTalkers, GeoTran language facilitators, NLP practitioners, esp are not on the fringe of the healing community. However, in a private post, someone did challenge me, by saying something like, why are these things so secret if they work so good. And the answer is that they are absolutely not secret, and there are more and more people using various systems of healing, even outside nutritional therapies (which have a LOT of limitations, imho, because most disease is based in the emotional body and in genetic miams.. programming, etc). But the problem is that whenever someone starts to talk about them, the sky starts falling in on them with accusations from people who have agendas that compromise the free flow of information for some reason or another. I remember about 15 years ago, when my mother suggested that I go see an acupuncturist for energy, because her acupuncturist was so good, and she had stopped smoking and had gotten a lot of help with some personal control issues. It was nearly UNHEARD of to see these people, because they also did various forms of divination and were in CHINATOWN! This was when we lived in NYC, and there were just stil areas of NY were only the naive would venture. Even now, when my daughter was telling someone in church that her mom works with sound therapy and analyzes voices, their eyebrows went up!! All therapies have their limitations, but the reason that I focus on sound, is that it gives access to so many other ways to put energy into the body, because nutrition is only part of our energetics. I'll post a link to my original article on sound that was published almost 3 years ago, so you can find out more. It includes some other important references also. Warmly, Moe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Learn more about Sound Therapy using Voice BioAnalysis!! http://www.planetvermont.com/pvq/v8n4/sound-therapy.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Moe...wow, what an essay. Where have you been. Such a great posting. Thanks for the contribution. To bad you're not in the Chicago area, I'd come to see you. -Mike Moe <bbdarling@centur ytel.net> cc: Subject: [ ] Re: a balanced list 10/03/2002 07:03 PM Please respond to Sue, If you go to http://www.heavenlywater.com, you will find a book called Choose Life or Death, written by Carey Reams who created a formula that explains healing based on the pH of the urine and saliva. It's called RBTI, and he used it to cure 100% any disease, until his death. There are very few practitioners left who teach this, and Chalen Waycoff is one of Carey's original students. Even if you don't completely follow the entire program, there are so many useful things within the program, understanding them improves your quality of life exponentially. The program is designed to create energy in the body, which is the purpose of the lemon drink I talked about. When it's a liver disorder, one of the first things that's noticed is energy loss. Small changes make big differences. For instance, being on a REGULAR schedule is essential for the body to heal. One of the next more important parts of this program is proper water intake. Many people have been using water ONLY to heal, see http://www.watercure.com/. I think that this site explains a lot of info, and has many resources. All natural health care practitioners will agree that dehydration and proper rest are the most obvious things ignored in healing. RBTI goes on to explain that foods such as tuna and pork are dangerous to healing because they put too much acid into the body, too quickly. It's like putting jet fuel into a car engine, it blows gaskets out. Carey Reams was first a chemist and worked out these theories mathematically, and then later in his life saw relevance to health situtations, which led to his formulation of the energy formula that you will find fully explained in the book. Nearly 10 years ago, I was tested by a Reams testor and examined all of my health issues based on this equation. Here's what we discovered: I was severely dehydrated. My diet was a combination of feasts of high acids and famines of dehydration, with little rest and too much stress. A formula for disease and malfunction of bodily functions. Nearly all my health complaints disappeared when I drank the lemon water, 2 oz every 1/2 hour for 10 hours a day. Imagine doing this. Nothing else happened during that time. I literally spent my entire day drinking water. This is why Reams took people into a retreat setting to heal and bring the body's formula back into balance. Most of the fad diets that are coming out now, are just spin offs and updates of the Reams program of alkalization, ie: restoring the mineral balance of the body. The most well-known now is the InnerLight SuperGreen's alkalarian diet, as shown in the book, The pH Miracle. The pH Miracle does the quantum alkalization with supplementation and diet, ignoring the need for rest and reduced stress. The truth may well be, that we need to alter our lifestyles entirely to heal and be well. For some people, they don't know what it feels like to be relaxed. I know that sounds odd, but that's why people are getting so excited about essential oils for stress. They never knew it could feel so good naturally, without a hangover. Essential oils address a vital part of the healing equation by altering the brain wave activity by simply smelling an oil. This creates a chemical response within the body, without horsing down pills. Specifically, Dr. Gumbel wrote about the effect of lavender on the liver function in terms of physiological response, in his book, Principles of Holistic Therapy Using Herbal Essences. It's not just another pretty smell, it's a chemical reaction within the body. It may not be possible to heal until people understand how the body wants to get well. I'm less inclined to accept that my body has a deficiency in some experimental drug, before I examine if I'm wearing it out without the proper mineral supplementation or water intake or rest for it to rebuild. Because the body is self healing. At some point the batteries do get worn out, and that's what the RBTI addresses specifically. Homeopathy also doesn't work once the body goes beyond it's ability to respond energetically. In either case, it's a matter of energetics, which is why I do what I do as a practitioner. If you take the time, Sue, to read this book by Carey Reams, and the one by Dr. Elmiger, MD, Rediscovering Real Medicine, it will reframe the way you look at healing. It's by no means the only answer or the most complete answer, but it's the best starting point with really good solid information. It may well be, that drug therapies are effective to cut back rapid tumor growth or viral load numbers in order to buy time. But what's missing in the protocols, imho, is the effective reversal of the residuals of those drup therapies inevitable iatrogenic complications. There is always trade off with every drug therapy, and risks. The only risk in drinking lemon water is that you may experience a headache for week while your body is discharging toxins rapidly. Hopefully, the organs of elimination are functioning well, and there's not much resistence as they pass out of the body. This is why many natural practitioners will support kidney, heart, colon, and concentrate on liver function while the body is healing. Hep C is more a viral condition than it is a true " liver " problem. Anyway, you get the general idea. This is why, after reading the Microhydrin posts, I totally understand why this person is promoting the products. They DO work, because they create energy in the body. Creating energy in the body is THE way the body fights disease. The body will create a fever to burn out pathogens. The fever is not the problem, the fever is the friend. The body is our friend. I've talked a lot about this on my list natural_healing . Since the body always makes the " best " decision to heal us, and protect us, we need to think outside the box and rediscover how to ASSIST that process, rather than trying to KILL the body's natural function. Carey Reams would call this increasing the body's RESERVE ENERGY, and would recommend specific strategies based on the chemical reactions coming out of the urine and saliva pH readings. Some of those recommendations would include adding a green drink to the diet. What I've observed is that people with a weak earth element, are going to respond quickly and easily to this treatment, but someone with a weak metal element are going to be stressed after long periods of time. This is why the treatment would work in the short term, but would not be effective for longer periods of time, for people with weak metal. For people with a deficient wood condition, lots of earth is ideal, because earth (green drinks) penetrate wood (liver issues). It's also interesting, in terms of the latest bruhaha on this list that a little earth, which represents the emotion of sympathy. Earth which controls the organs of the stomach, spleen, and pancreas, nourishes the flesh, the flesh strengthens the lungs, and the stomach rules over the mouth. Judging by all the mouthing off on this list, a little earth can go a long way, here. Of course, these are just observations based on the Chinese five element theory, which may or may not be acceptable as a governing system of health for the more medically inclined. I use the voice print to determine the energetic dominance, the medical astrology chart in the 6th harmonic to determine the element distribution, and the face, posture, appearance and demeanor of the individual to determine the immediate course of treatment to suggest to the client. Ultimately, the will of the client normally determines their ability to resolve a deficiency or defeat a toxicity, which is related to the water element, the kidneys and bladder. I'd much rather work with spirited angry wood types who are sensing the need to defend their " soul " . The wood element controls the soul, according to Taoists. The problem that is faced when dealing with toxic wood, or liver issues, is that sight is also affected. So getting the liver toxic client to SEE the problem, presents it's own interesting dilemmas. So, ultimately, it's important for each person to become familiar with these healing principles, and judge for themselves where they stand or fall, and for them to seek out practitioners who are skilled in assisting in the treatment of their choice. It's very nice to see an acupuncturist, who just sticks needles in the body, no need for thinking or taking responsibility, just a few uncomfortable needle pricks. That may not appeal to an AIR type of person who has a desire to intellectualize each of their decisions, and make conscious choices. This is why it IS so difficult to design a one-size fits all treatment program, including medical approaches, because they need to meet the needs of the individual's temperament and type, not just a blood test or biopsy. This is the shortfall of current medical treatments. They fail to address the root issue of what brought the body into dis-ease. Of course, this only touches on possible treatment of a toxic liver condition, in terms of this list's interests. Prescribing a treatment without understanding more about dominant/deficient/toxic conditions of the body doesn't serve anyone. Using a product like Microhydrin would very much address an energy problem, but may not be the cure that some are looking for, though the body may respond nicely by defeating the largest of the virus and bring the numbers down, simply by creating reserve energy. This is why Carey Reams relied heavily on green drinks, mineral supplementation, and also parasite cleansing, which we haven't even heard a peep about on this list, yet. Certainly parasites are involved in any breakdown the body's natural function and immunity status. Perhaps we'll save that for yet another round of threads on wholistic approaches to healing. Warmest regards, Moe " It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more medicines. " ~ Hahnemann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Moe,Great post! Keep it coming.Have you ever herd of the Neurophone - By Dr. Flanagan? I don't know anything about this .... but maybe you can explain what this does, and does such an device really work. Sincerely, Mark Chiocchi The Neurophone transmits ultra sound frequencies through the skin to the brain, bypassing normal hearing channels. The Neurophone delivers a 40 kHz energy frequency through sensors, which are placed on the skin near the temples. For several decades, audiologists have experimented with the application of sound frequencies through the skin.The Neurophone has a variety of beneficial uses such as: to help concentration while studying to assist in learning languages or other study materials to listen to recorded music in a new way to help achieve harmony and emotional balance personally or with partners to help students and professionals improve grades and test scores to assist in gaining a sense of calm mindedness, relaxation, and well being to assist in meditation to assist sound perception The Neurophone is not a hearing aid for deaf people. However, it may help some who have auditory nerve damage depending on the type and severity. It is not meant to be a hearing aid, nor to diagnose or treat deafness.The Neurophone can be connected to any audio device such as tape or CD player. HOW DOES IT WORK? The skin is our largest and most complex organ. In addition to being the first line of defense against infection, the skin is a gigantic liquid crystal brain. The skin is piezo-electric. When it is vibrated or rubbed, it generates electric signals and scalar waves. Every organ of perception evolved from the skin. When we are embryos, our sensory organs evolved from the folds in the skin. Many primitive organisms and animals can see and hear with their skin. We now know that the skin transmits ultrasonic impulses to an organ in the inner ear known as the Saccule. The skin vibrates in resonance with the ultrasonic ( 40 KHz) Neurophone modulated carrier wave and transmits the sound from the carrier through multiple channels into the brain. When the Neurophone was originally developed, neurophysiologists considered that the brain was hard-wired and that the various cranial nerves were hard-wired to every sensory system. The eighth cranial nerve is the nerve bundle that runs from the inner ear to the brain. Theoretically, we should only be able to hear with our ears if our sensor organs are hardwired.Now the concept of a holographic brain has come into being. The holographic brain theory states that the brain uses a holographic encoding system so that the entire brain may be able to function as a multi-faceted sensory encoding computer. This means that sensory impressions, like hearing, may be encoded so that any part of the brain can recognize input signals according to a special type of signal coding. Theoretically, we should be able to see and hear through multiple channels not just our eyes and ears. The key to the Neurophone is the stimulation of the nerves of the skin with a digitally coded signal that carries the same time-ratio code that is recognized as sound by any nerve in the body. All commercial digital speech recognition circuitry is based on so-called dominant frequency power analysis. While speech can be recognized by such a circuit, the truth is that speech encoding is based on time ratios. If the frequency power analysis circuits are not phased correctly, they will not work. The intelligence (sound) is carried by phase information. The frequency content of the voice gives our voice a certain quality, but frequency does not containinformation. All attempts at computer voice recognition and voice generation are only partially successful. Until digital time-ratio encoding is used, our computers will never be able to really talk to us. The computer that we developed to recognize speech for the Man-Dolphin communicator used time-ratio analysis only. By recognizing and using time-ratio encoding, we could transmit clear voice data through extremely narrow bandwidths. In one device, we developed a radio transmitter that had a bandwidth of only 300 Hertz while maintaining crystal clear transmission. Since signal-to-noise ratio is based on bandwidth considerations, we were able to transmit clear voice over thousands of miles while using milliwatt power. Improved signal-processing algorithms are the basis of a new series of Neurophones that are currently under development. These new Neurophones use state-of-the-art digital processing to render sound information with much greater clarity. ELECTRONIC TELEPATHY The Neurophone is an electronic telepathy machine. Several tests prove that it bypasses the eighth cranial nerve, the hearing nerve, and transmits sound directly to the brain. This means that the Neurophone stimulates perception through a seventh or alternative sense. All hearing aids stimulate tiny bones in the middle ear.Sometimes when the eardrum is damaged, the bones of the inner ear are stimulated by a vibrator that is placed behind the ear on the base of the skull. Bone conduction will even work through the teeth. In order for bone conduction to work, the cochlea or inner ear that connects to the eighth cranial nerve first must function. People who are nerve-deaf cannot hear through bone conduction because the nerves in the inner ear are not functional.A number of profoundly nerve-deaf people and people who have had the entire inner ear removed by surgery have been able to hear with the Neurophone. If the Neurophone electrodes are placed on the closed eyes or on the face, the sound can be clearly 'heard' as if it were coming from inside the brain. When the electrodes are placed on the face, the sound is perceived through the trigeminal nerve. We therefore know that the Neurophone can work through the trigeminal or facial nerve. When the facial nerve is deadened by means of anesthetic injections, we can no longer hear through the face. In these cases, there is a fine line where the skin on the face is numb. If the electrodes are placed on the numb skin, we cannot hear it but when the electrodes are moved a fraction of an inch over to skin that still has feeling, sound perception is restored and the person can 'hear'. This proves that the means of sound perception via the Neurophone is by means of skin and not by means of bone conduction. There was an earlier test performed at Tufts University that was designed by Dr. Dwight Wayne Batteau, one of my partners in the United States Navy Dolphin Communication Project. This test was known as the "Beat Frequency Test". It is well known that sound waves of two slightly different frequencies create a 'beat' note as the waves interfere with each other. For example, if a sound of 300 Hertz and one of 330 Hertz are played into one ear at the same time a beat not of 30 Hertz will be perceived. This is a mechanical summation of sound in the bone structure of the inner ear. There is another beat, sounds beat together in the corpus callosum in the center of the brain. This binaural beat is used by the Monroe Institute and others to simulate altered brain states by entraining (causing brain waves to lock on and follow the signal) the brain into high alpha or even theta brain states. These brain states are associated with creativity, lucid dreaming and other states of consciousness otherwise difficult to reach when awake. The Neurophone is a powerful brain entrainment device. If we play alpha or theta signals directly through the Neurophone, we can move the brain into any state desired. Batteau's theory was that if we could place the Neurophone electrodes so that the sound was perceived as coming from one side of the head only, and if we played a 300 Hertz signal through the Neurophone, if we also played a 330 Hertz signal through an ordinary headphone we would get a beat note if the signals were summing in the inner ear bones. When the test was conducted, we were able to perceive two distinct tones without beat. This test again proved that Neurophonic hearing was not through bone conduction. When we used a stereo Neurophone, we were able to get a beat note that is similar to the binaural beat, but the beat is occurring inside the nervous system and is not the result of bone conduction. The Neurophone is a 'gateway' into altered brain states. Its most powerful use may be in direct communications with the brain centers, thereby bypassing the 'filters' or inner mechanisms that may limit our ability to communicate to the brain. If we can unlock the secret of direct audio communications to the brain, we can unlock the secret of visual communications. The skin has receptors that can detect vibration, light, temperature, pressure and friction. All we have to do is stimulate the skin with the right signals. We are continuing Neurophonic research. We have recently developed other modes of Neurophonic transmission. We have also reversed the Neurophone and found that we can detect scalar waves that are generated by the living system. The detection technique is actually very similar to the process used by Dr. Hiroshi Motoyama in Japan. Dr. Motoyama used capacitor electrodes very much like those we use with the Neurophone to detect energies from various power centers of the body known as chakras. http://www.flantech.com/products/neurophone.htmSincerely, Mark Chiocchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Thanks, Mike.... In Chicago, you can go see anna Korwitts, 800-750-6649 for Voice BioAnalysis. She's excellent. Warmly, Moe > > Moe...wow, what an essay. Where have you been. Such a great posting. > Thanks for the contribution. To bad you're not in the Chicago area, I'd > come to see you. > > -Mike > > > > > Moe > <bbdarling@centur To: @y... > ytel.net> cc: > Subject: [ ] Re: a balanced list > 10/03/2002 07:03 > PM > Please respond to > > > > > > > > Sue, > If you go to http://www.heavenlywater.com, you will find a book called > Choose Life or Death, written by Carey Reams who created a formula that > explains healing based on the pH of the urine and saliva. It's called > RBTI, and he used it to cure 100% any disease, until his death. There are > very few practitioners left who teach this, and Chalen Waycoff is one of > Carey's original students. Even if you don't completely follow the entire > program, there are so many useful things within the program, understanding > them improves your quality of life exponentially. The program is designed > to create energy in the body, which is the purpose of the lemon drink I > talked about. When it's a liver disorder, one of the first things that's > noticed is energy loss. > > Small changes make big differences. For instance, being on a REGULAR > schedule is essential for the body to heal. One of the next more important > parts of this program is proper water intake. Many people have been using > water ONLY to heal, see http://www.watercure.com/. I think that this site > explains a lot of info, and has many resources. All natural health care > practitioners will agree that dehydration and proper rest are the most > obvious things ignored in healing. > > RBTI goes on to explain that foods such as tuna and pork are dangerous to > healing because they put too much acid into the body, too quickly. It's > like putting jet fuel into a car engine, it blows gaskets out. > > Carey Reams was first a chemist and worked out these theories > mathematically, and then later in his life saw relevance to health > situtations, which led to his formulation of the energy formula that you > will find fully explained in the book. > > Nearly 10 years ago, I was tested by a Reams testor and examined all of my > health issues based on this equation. Here's what we discovered: I was > severely dehydrated. My diet was a combination of feasts of high acids and > famines of dehydration, with little rest and too much stress. A formula > for disease and malfunction of bodily functions. > > Nearly all my health complaints disappeared when I drank the lemon water, 2 > oz every 1/2 hour for 10 hours a day. Imagine doing this. Nothing else > happened during that time. I literally spent my entire day drinking water. > > This is why Reams took people into a retreat setting to heal and bring the > body's formula back into balance. > > Most of the fad diets that are coming out now, are just spin offs and > updates of the Reams program of alkalization, ie: restoring the mineral > balance of the body. The most well-known now is the InnerLight > SuperGreen's alkalarian diet, as shown in the book, The pH Miracle. The > pH Miracle does the quantum alkalization with supplementation and diet, > ignoring the need for rest and reduced stress. > > The truth may well be, that we need to alter our lifestyles entirely to > heal and be well. For some people, they don't know what it feels like to > be relaxed. I know that sounds odd, but that's why people are getting so > excited about essential oils for stress. They never knew it could feel so > good naturally, without a hangover. Essential oils address a vital part of > the healing equation by altering the brain wave activity by simply smelling > an oil. This creates a chemical response within the body, without horsing > down pills. Specifically, Dr. Gumbel wrote about the effect of lavender on > the liver function in terms of physiological response, in his book, > Principles of Holistic Therapy Using Herbal Essences. It's not just > another pretty smell, it's a chemical reaction within the body. > > It may not be possible to heal until people understand how the body wants > to get well. I'm less inclined to accept that my body has a deficiency in > some experimental drug, before I examine if I'm wearing it out without the > proper mineral supplementation or water intake or rest for it to rebuild. > Because the body is self healing. At some point the batteries do get worn > out, and that's what the RBTI addresses specifically. Homeopathy also > doesn't work once the body goes beyond it's ability to respond > energetically. In either case, it's a matter of energetics, which is why I > do what I do as a practitioner. > > If you take the time, Sue, to read this book by Carey Reams, and the one > by Dr. Elmiger, MD, Rediscovering Real Medicine, it will reframe the > way you look at healing. It's by no means the only answer or the most > complete answer, but it's the best starting point with really good solid > information. It may well be, that drug therapies are effective to cut back > rapid tumor growth or viral load numbers in order to buy time. But what's > missing in the protocols, imho, is the effective reversal of the residuals > of those drup therapies inevitable iatrogenic complications. There is > always trade off with every drug therapy, and risks. The only risk in > drinking lemon water is that you may experience a headache for week while > your body is discharging toxins rapidly. Hopefully, the organs of > elimination are functioning well, and there's not much resistence as they > pass out of the body. This is why many natural practitioners will support > kidney, heart, colon, and concentrate on liver function while the body is > healing. Hep C is more a viral condition than it is a true " liver " > problem. > > Anyway, you get the general idea. > > This is why, after reading the Microhydrin posts, I totally understand why > this person is promoting the products. They DO work, because they create > energy in the body. Creating energy in the body is THE way the body fights > disease. The body will create a fever to burn out pathogens. The fever is > not the problem, the fever is the friend. The body is our friend. I've > talked a lot about this on my list natural_healing@y... Since > the body always makes the " best " decision to heal us, and protect us, we > need to think outside the box and rediscover how to ASSIST that process, > rather than trying to KILL the body's natural function. Carey Reams would > call this increasing the body's RESERVE ENERGY, and would recommend > specific strategies based on the chemical reactions coming out of the urine > and saliva pH readings. > > Some of those recommendations would include adding a green drink to the > diet. What I've observed is that people with a weak earth element, are > going to respond quickly and easily to this treatment, but someone with a > weak metal element are going to be stressed after long periods of time. > This is why the treatment would work in the short term, but would not be > effective for longer periods of time, for people with weak metal. For > people with a deficient wood condition, lots of earth is ideal, because > earth (green drinks) penetrate wood (liver issues). It's also interesting, > in terms of the latest bruhaha on this list that a little earth, which > represents the emotion of sympathy. Earth which controls the organs of the > stomach, spleen, and pancreas, nourishes the flesh, the flesh strengthens > the lungs, and the stomach rules over the mouth. Judging by all the > mouthing off on this list, a little earth can go a long way, here. Of > course, these are just observations based on the Chinese five element > theory, which may or may not be acceptable as a governing system of health > for the more medically inclined. > > I use the voice print to determine the energetic dominance, the medical > astrology chart in the 6th harmonic to determine the element distribution, > and the face, posture, appearance and demeanor of the individual to > determine the immediate course of treatment to suggest to the client. > Ultimately, the will of the client normally determines their ability to > resolve a deficiency or defeat a toxicity, which is related to the water > element, the kidneys and bladder. I'd much rather work with spirited angry > wood types who are sensing the need to defend their " soul " . The wood > element controls the soul, according to Taoists. The problem that is faced > when dealing with toxic wood, or liver issues, is that sight is also > affected. So getting the liver toxic client to SEE the problem, presents > it's own interesting dilemmas. > > So, ultimately, it's important for each person to become familiar with > these healing principles, and judge for themselves where they stand or > fall, and for them to seek out practitioners who are skilled in assisting > in the treatment of their choice. It's very nice to see an acupuncturist, > who just sticks needles in the body, no need for thinking or taking > responsibility, just a few uncomfortable needle pricks. That may not > appeal to an AIR type of person who has a desire to intellectualize each of > their decisions, and make conscious choices. > > This is why it IS so difficult to design a one-size fits all treatment > program, including medical approaches, because they need to meet the needs > of the individual's temperament and type, not just a blood test or biopsy. > This is the shortfall of current medical treatments. They fail to address > the root issue of what brought the body into dis-ease. > > Of course, this only touches on possible treatment of a toxic liver > condition, in terms of this list's interests. Prescribing a treatment > without understanding more about dominant/deficient/toxic conditions of the > body doesn't serve anyone. Using a product like Microhydrin would very > much address an energy problem, but may not be the cure that some are > looking for, though the body may respond nicely by defeating the largest > of the virus and bring the numbers down, simply by creating reserve energy. > This is why Carey Reams relied heavily on green drinks, mineral > supplementation, and also parasite cleansing, which we haven't even heard a > peep about on this list, yet. Certainly parasites are involved in any > breakdown the body's natural function and immunity status. Perhaps we'll > save that for yet another round of threads on wholistic approaches to > healing. > > Warmest regards, > Moe > > > > " It is the life-force which cures diseases > because a dead man needs no more medicines. " > ~ Hahnemann > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Flanagan's Neurophone Hope for the deaf and superlearning for all by Eddy In 1958, Dr. Flanagan invented the Neurophone in Bellaire, Texas when he was 14 years old. This electronic device transmits sound through the skin, by-passing normal hearing. A family friend who was a patent attorney for Shell Oil, helped submit a patent application. The patent examiners thought that this was just sound transfer through bone conduction and refused to issue a patent for 12 years. In a rare meeting in 1970, the patent office agreed to examine the Neurophone for themselves and meet and his attorney. They both encountered a surprise. The examiner had a deaf employee attend the meeting to test the device. The man was totally nerve deaf in one ear and almost totally deaf in the other. showed him how to use the Neurophone and played a record of the famous Callas singing an opera. As he was able to hear the undistorted beauty of her voice, the tears of joy streamed down his face. For the first time in history the Patent Office reopened a file after it was officially closed and Flanagan received United States Patent Number 3,393,279. Prior to this, scientists thought that sound could only be perceived by the inner ear to the brain. A Houston Post reporter had a relative who was nerve deaf from spinal meningitis. A test was arranged and when the device worked, an explosion of news coverage resulted in the story being carried on the international wire services. How the genie was lostIn an agonizing infringement, a Defense Intelligence Agency sealed the patent and a national security order forbade from working on, or even talking about this invention. After many years and nearly 300 inventions later, received the Neurophone for public use. In a triumphant court case, the secrecy and the seizure of the device, by the Government Agency, was overruled and the genie was out of the bottle! Electronic hearing and telepathyTo quote 's Neurophone article in Nexus Magazine-Feb/March 1994, "All hearing aids stimulate tiny bones in the ear. In order for bone conduction to work, the cochlea or inner ear that connects to the 8th cranial nerve must function. People who are nerve deaf cannot hear through bone conduction because the nerves in the inner ear are not functional. A number of nerve deaf people who have had the entire inner ear removed by surgery have been able to hear with the Neurophone. The Neurophone is really an electronic telepathy machine. Several tests prove that it bypasses the 8th cranial nerve or hearing nerve and transmits sound directly to the brain. This means that the Neurophone stimulates perception through a 7th or Alternate Sense!" The Texas home of the NeurophoneThe Neurophone became publicly available on a broad scale for the first time in July, 1996. An international Health Products company is now distributing the Neurophone. This corporation is based in Dallas, Texas and was established in 1976. A digitally computerized model is now being developed by and his wife Gael Crystal in their laboratory in Sedona, Arizona. Turning on our neurophysiological potential for health, knowledge and awarenessOne of the last statements by Nikola Tesla, inventor of alternating current, the radio and holder of well over 1,000 patents, was that he regretted not having done more in the science of electromedicine. In 1962, predicted that electromedicine would revolutionize conventional health care. One of the relatively unknown, silent revolutions has already taken place in the form of blood and lymph cleansing devices. These simple, yet powerful, electronic devices have been popularized by Bob Beck, physicist and bio electronic researcher and Hulda , N.D. In 1990, a remarkable discovery was made by Kaali, MD and Lyman, associate Professor of Pathology at Einstein College of Medicine in N.Y.C. It was shown that a minute current (50-100 micro amperes) can alter outer protein layers of the HIV virus and prevent it's attachment to receptor sites. (Science News March 30, 1991, pg. 207). The viruses loose the ability to make an enzyme crucial to their reproduction. This process may also reverse Epstein Barr (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome), Hepatitis and Herpes B. Responsible users of this technology who are HIV positive, may expect a Negative P24 surface antigen or PCR test (no more HIV detectable in blood) after 30 days. A simplified version of this unit now makes self help feasible. The potential to clean and potentize the blood banks of the world with this instrument is truly staggering. Bob Beck's Sept. 96 Explore Magazine Article notes a study on the life span of blood cells sealed under cover slips on microscope slides. While the average life of "normal" blood is about 4 days; blood cells treated with a mild microcurrent live for well over a month! This very mild charging of the blood does not harm blood cells. Furthermore, the applied physics of Eddy Current (Lenz's law) demonstrates the neutralization of a myriad of parasites, viruses, microbes and fungi. It is important to realize that these organisms are critical co-factors, if not actual carriers, regarding the multitude of new deadly contagious diseases appearing throughout the world. These blood cleansing devices are safe, with intelligent use, have been around for decades, and seem to have a variety of other benefits. You can do your own research on the scientific evidence by scanning (http:/www.electriciti.com/explore/Articles/Beck/HIVArticle.html). Be aware that there are now customized, blood and lymph cleansing units far better than Mr. Beck, Dr. , and most others, describe and or advertise. The big turn offBy contrast, the HAARP Project, a giant array of microwave towers in Anchorage Alaska, may not exactly raise awareness and improve human health. It's billion plus watts of power can impact an entire nation or even a complete hemisphere of the world. You may find the rest of the story through the writings of Nick Begich and other investigators. This brings new meaning to that old expression used in T.V. and Radio, "Don't touch that dial!" Nick is a life long educator, native of Alaska, and has been featured on thousands of radio programs in the last 4 years. He also is perhaps the most informed writer on the Flanagan story and the benefits of the Neurophone. Education Automation VacationScientific experiments indicate that effects of the Neurophone range from super learning, long term memory speed learning, relaxation, pain control and enhanced psychic abilities. The Neurophone's ability to transfer large amounts of information into long term memory may, alone, make the current model of education obsolete. We could advance beyond the problem of information overload and actually emphasize values, goals, strategy and a profound interdisciplinary approach to world problems. Positive solutions in an ever more complex world may themselves depend on the solution offered by the responsible use of the Neurophone. Ma BellStudies on a special "head start" program, with pregnant women using the Neurophone have promising news. These women describe children with marked intelligence. This neuro-networking seems actually to nurture neuropathways for the fetus. Extra sensory perceptionsAll organs of perceptions evolve from the skin of the child within the womb. Theoretically, the skin could perform all sense perception. In Russia blind people have been taught 'to see' with their fingertips. Deaf people in Czechoslovakia have been instructed 'to hear' with their fingertips. Details on the Neurophone, super learning and electromedicineThe intricacies of how the Neurophone is constructed, along with it's bio -physical- interactivity, is provided in the book, Towards A New Alchemy, by Nick Begich. For a broader background see Super-Memory: The Revolution, by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder. The Explore More Magazine's March/April 1996 article, 'The Skin, Our Fifth Sense' is a real eye opener. For a historical view of related research read Psychic Discoveries Behind The Iron Curtain by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder. A technical understanding of the bio-electronics of organisms in health and disease, will be found in the book, The Body Electric- Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life, by O. Becker, M.D. and Selden, (Quill Publisher). Dolphin speakIn a curious parallel to Roxanne Kremer's work on interspecies communication with the Pink Amazon River Dolphins, Dr. Flanagan has made impressive technical contributions. In February, 1968, he applied for a patent on a device for translating human speech into dolphin language and vice/versa. This was a result of studies with dolphins in the lagoon of a small island off the coast of Oahu, Hawaii. A vocabulary of 30 words was discovered before a startling intervention. Six months after applying for the patent, it was placed under secrecy order #756, 124 by a U.S.Government surveillance agency. Five years later, another hard-fought legal battle rescinded the suppression and patent #3,647,970 was granted on March 7th 1972. This speech processing patent is actually used as the circuit in the present version of the Neurophone. The sound of the new millennium"The Music of the Spheres and the Hemispheres", heard with the assist of the Neurophone, opens new doors for musicians and composers, as well as educators and students of life in general. In what may be seen as another motif on Sonic Bloom-like-phenomena, some theories hold that it has the potential for developing super plants and healing animals as well as people. Mind meldExperiments with a Neurophone mind link between two or more people seemingly makes possible learning directly from the mind of another. And I thought this was only in the SCI FI domain of Star Trek's Mr. Spock and certainly beyond the ken of Dr. Spock. Nick Begich describes the phenomenon as an electronic 'corpus collosum' between the minds of 2 people. The corpus collosum is the semi-permeable bridge between the 2 hemispheres of an individual's brain. The Neurophone and other gemsThe Neurophone also causes both sides of the brain to pulse in harmony creating an environment which may be ideal for learning. Use of the Neurophone tends to balance all the acupuncture meridians. In the near future the Flanagans will produce cassette tapes and CD's designed to be used only with the Neurophone. The tapes will cover categories as varied as Psychic Center Stimulation to Subliminal Learning Programs. Other Flanagan products include Crystal Energy, (ultra colloidals - each only 12 atoms wide - of silica, magnesium, zinc, gold, silver, and titanium which have duplicated the structure and improved upon the health benefits of Hunza Water). The people of Hunza claim that their longevity, often living up to 130, stems primarily from their consumption of Hunza water, also known as 'glacial milk'. This technology has also been used to create what is truly the most unique spirulina, and other supplements, presently known. A word to the wiseWinston Churchill said, "most people occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and continue on as if nothing had ever happened". If you sense you've encountered some truths in this article don't use them as stumbling blocks. They may be stepping stones to far higher truths, if you dare to care and share. Data in this article can be legally offered only as "theoretical"; and no medical claims can be made or implied. See your health professional. You may reach Eddy through e-mail at: edtaylor@... Eddy is currently researching electro-agriculture. This employs the use of mild electrical frequencies generated by instruments, similar to the blood cleansing device, to assist crop production. This also includes enrichment and transmutation of soil and water. While aware of Sonic Bloom and other related approaches; he is seeking testimonials and scientific data solely from those in the field of 'electronic bloom'. It has been theorized that the proper agro-frequencies neutralize harmful organisms, new viruses, etc., now threatening entire bioregions via water, plants, and soil. If you would like to join this research effort and need a frequency generator for hands on experiments, Eddy may be able to refer you to a supplier. Just as there are no medical claims made or inferred regarding the Neurophone or the blood and lymph cleansing devices, there are no agricultural claims made or inferred involving electro-agricultural devices. See you agricultural professional! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Moe - So good to hear you. All of your information makes me feel so good! I'm sure some people scoff and poke fun, but what you say is the real deal and I so appreciate your posting here! I am most certainly going to investigate your methods. Thank you! Karolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Moe, If you are dealing with folks with liver disease you might be interested in learning about the Master Amino Acid Pattern...a predigested vegetable protein source which creates NO nitrogen waste to be dumped on the liver and kidneys...its a perfect source for the hepatically challenged. I'm just starting my friend who was lest with 3 ft of small intestine. They just took her off the TPN/IV feeding, and all the junk in that. Anyway, five days on the MAP and she's a new person...so cool. The best info on the web is at www.healthmaap.com. Hydrogen is the Fuel of Life....hydrides are the Life Force. > >"It is the life-force which cures diseases >because a dead man needs no more medicines." > ~ Hahnemann I can dig it! Peace, Jeanine http://hepchelp.homestead.comSend and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Dear Satya, This is an advertisement from NVI...hope it pastes. Anyone considering Phelp's Microhydrin from RBC needs to know this. Tests, Graphs and Salesmanship . . .What Does It All Mean To the Customer? By Yibing Wang, MD, PhDDirector of Product Research In today’s marketplace, every company says they have the best, most potent product. So how does the customer sort through all the promises and discover for themselves and their family what the best product decision would be? Part of the answer is simple: accurate, independent testing of the ingredients that they are purchasing. I recently reviewed test results that one of our competitors, Royal Body Care®, posted on the Internet, comparing New Vision’s Active H-™ against their new Microhydrin®. Royal Body Care had tested both products for their Oxidation/Reduction Potential, pH, TDS and they are touting their ORAC value test results. While these tests are valuable, and the ORAC value test is important in determining the antioxidant properties of a product, none of these tests measure the active ingredient in Microhydrin or Active H-, which is negatively charged hydrogen. In essence, Royal Body Care ran the wrong test. In simple terms we can all understand, it would be like taking a pregnancy test to measure your cholesterol level. The pregnancy test is a valid and effective test, but it is useless in determining your cholesterol level. Both New Vision’s Active H- and Royal Body Care’s new Microhyrin are positioned as dietary supplements that provide customers with stabilized negatively charged hydrogen in the form of silica hydride. To determine which product is more potent, you must test the level of negatively charged hydrogen in each product. The appropriate test to make this determination is the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Test (NMR). Accordingly, I instructed our Research and Development Department to utilize two separate independent laboratories to conduct NMR tests on both New Vision’s and Royal Body Care’s products. To make sure the tests were conducted fairly and independently, Flanagan was not informed of the testing protocol or laboratories used and no protocol instructions were dictated to the two independent NMR laboratories, Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences and Spectral Data Services, Inc. in Illinois. Two tests were run by the Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences and one by Spectral Data Services, Inc. (totaling 3 tests), with safety sealed products. Each independent test found the same result: Active H- containing between 600% and up to 1200% more negatively charged hydrogen than the new Microhydrin. The discrepancy between the two laboratories findings were directly attributed to the difference in protocols used at the clinician's discretion. The test results speak for themselves. After examining them, our Research and Development unanimously concluded that Active H- is the strongest, most potent negatively charged hydrogen product available today. For those wanting to view actual test results and testing clinicians comments, download this PDF file. Microhydrin is a registered trademark of Royal Body Care. About Flanagan:Working primarily in the field of biophysics, Flanagan began his lifelong career as a research scientist at an early age. At the young age of 14, he invented the Neurophone, a device that allows people to hear through intrinsic methods of ultrasonic detection. When was just 17, he was recognized by Life Magazine as one of the most important young scientists in America. As a primarily self-taught student, bypassing his teachers, chose to work with prominent scientists as mentors instead of following the traditional academic path to advanced degrees. When was 18, he and Dr. Henri Coanda (who was 78 at the time) worked at Huyck Research Laboratories in Stamford Connecticut as consultants to the US Government. Dr. Coanda was the "Father of fluid dynamics" and inventor of the first jet airplane. In addition to his many projects, resulting in over 600 patents, Dr. Coanda, studied the properties of water consumed by the people of Hunza in order to learn the secret of their longevity and low incidence of disease. At his retirement, Dr. Coanda turned over all of his research findings to , allowing him to continue the search to discover the negatively charged nanocolloids that make Hunza water unique. In recognition of his more than 200 inventions and the significant advances in health made by , he was granted a Medical Degree by the University Medicina Alternativa personally presented by the President of Sri Lanka at the World Medical Congress. On March 14, 1994, Professor Anton Jayasuriya, Chairperson of the Medicina Alternativa Institute of Sri Lanka, in a letter to congratulated him on his work, which he described as a great discovery. considers New Vision's Active H- to be the most significant discovery in a lifetime of developing life-enhancing inventions for mankind. Peace, Jeanine http://hepchelp.homestead.com >From: "thecelestialspirit" >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] a balanced list >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n40.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.108]) by mc3-f7.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:03:54 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n40.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: (qmail 90219 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd. with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.39) by mta1.grp.scd. with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:16 -0000 >Received: from Satya ([24.52.15.129]) by smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 smtprelay7 Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with SMTP id H3GPOD02.30S for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:00:13 -0400 >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617-hepc=hotmail.com@... >X-Sender: thecelestialspirit@... >X-Apparently- >Message-ID: <003101c26ba9$49016b30$810f3418@Satya> >References: <5.0.0.25.0.20021004055214.0355a9c0@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X--Profile: thecelestialspirit01247 >Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner >Delivered-mailing list >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: >Return-Path: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617-hepc=hotmail.com@... >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2002 21:03:55.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CD84190:01C26BE9] > >WOW! Moe--THANKS! I can't wait to pursue this MUCH further....My background is as a yoga instructor, polarity therapist, and Reiki 2 practitioner, (I use crystals too)--and a little EFT (as well as a musician, as I said), so your approach makes SO much sense to me---I am already using herbal protocols(Dr. Zhang) and have recently added colostrum. I've been leaning towards Microhydrin also, because this also makes great sense to me, as well as your thoughts on the importance of ridding the body of parasites. I so appreciate the time you took to write that most informative post for me. I will devour the info greedily, as I had tried to glean some info from your posts long ago, but usually came to a dead end. Now that I know the places that you post, I'll be taking advantage of your evident expertise on an ongoing basis. Thanks so much again, and BLESS you, Sir! Sincerely yours, Satya Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. 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Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Thanks alot, Jeanine---I respect your sincerity--I don't care what others think. I just want to get the best products available, and if companies are not being truthful, this behind-the-scenes information should get out somehow, for those who want to at least research these things so they can get what they pay for. I think, Karolyn, you take RBC products (I think you said you trust their reputation--so if you have a great belief in them and as someone said it feels good to your soul, then you're doing the right thing for YOU) as I just noticed in your last post, but don't know if you have checked out Jeanine's story---either way, everyone has a RIGHT to take what they feel is best for THEM---as I think it was pumpboz who said something like it's pretty important to have belief in what you're taking for your own PERSONAL cure--I so much agree---and I appreciate ALL of those who care enough to post what they know about products, therapies, and what has worked for them, for all our sakes---I don't think anyone here would be posting here at all if we didn't all care about helping each other manage or even eradicate hep c ("squash it--it's just a bug"--right, Jeannine)?. So I say "BRAVO" to all of you who take the time to write and offer CONSTRUCTIVE, informative posts. Sincerely, and with my wish of peace and good health to all of us!, Satya Re: [ ] a balanced list >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n40.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.108]) by mc3-f7.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:03:54 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n40.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: (qmail 90219 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd. with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.39) by mta1.grp.scd. with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:16 -0000 >Received: from Satya ([24.52.15.129]) by smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 smtprelay7 Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with SMTP id H3GPOD02.30S for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:00:13 -0400 >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617-hepc=hotmail.com@... >X-Sender: thecelestialspirit@... >X-Apparently- >Message-ID: <003101c26ba9$49016b30$810f3418@Satya> >References: <5.0.0.25.0.20021004055214.0355a9c0@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X--Profile: thecelestialspirit01247 >Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner >Delivered-mailing list >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: >Return-Path: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617-hepc=hotmail.com@... >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2002 21:03:55.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CD84190:01C26BE9] > >WOW! Moe--THANKS! I can't wait to pursue this MUCH further....My background is as a yoga instructor, polarity therapist, and Reiki 2 ppractitioner, (I use crystals too)--and a little EFT (as well as a musician, as I said), so your approach makes SO much sense to me---I am already using herbal protocols(Dr. Zhang) and have recently added colostrum. I've been leaning towards Microhydrin also, because this also makes great sense to me, as well as your thoughts on the importance of ridding the body of parasites. I so appreciate the time you took to write that most informative post for me. I will devour the info greedily, as I had tried to glean some info from your posts long ago, but usually came to a dead end. Now that I know the places that you post, I'll be taking advantage of your evident expertise on an ongoing basis. Thanks so much again, and BLESS you, Sir! Sincerely yours, Satya Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 > Thanks alot, Jeanine---I respect your sincerity--I don't care what others think. I just want to get the best products available, and if companies are not being truthful, this behind-the-scenes information should get out somehow, for those who want to at least research these things so they can get what they pay for. I think, Karolyn, you take RBC products (I think you said you trust their reputation--so if you have a great belief in them and as someone said it feels good to your soul, then you're doing the right thing for YOU) as I just noticed in your last post, but don't know if you have checked out Jeanine's story---either way, everyone has a RIGHT to take what they feel is best for THEM---as I think it was pumpboz who said something like it's pretty important to have belief in what you're taking for your own PERSONAL cure--I so much agree---and I appreciate ALL of those who care enough to post what they know about products, therapies, and what has worked for them, for all our sakes---I don't think anyone here would be posting here at all if we didn't all care about helping each other manage or even eradicate hep c ( " squash it--it's just a bug " --right, Jeannine)?. So I say " BRAVO " to all of you who take the time to write and offer CONSTRUCTIVE, informative posts. Sincerely, and with my wish of peace and good health to all of us!, Satya > Re: [ ] a balanced list > >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from n40.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.108]) by mc3- f7.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:03:54 -0700 > >Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n40.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 90219 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd. with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:17 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.39) by mta1.grp.scd. with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 15:00:16 -0000 > >Received: from Satya ([24.52.15.129]) by smtprelay7.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 smtprelay7 Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with SMTP id H3GPOD02.30S for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:00:13 -0400 > >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617- hepc=hotmail.com@r... > >X-Sender: thecelestialspirit@a... > >X-Apparently- @y... > >Message-ID: <003101c26ba9$49016b30$810f3418@Satya> > >References: <5.0.0.25.0.20021004055214.0355a9c0@m...> > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > >X--Profile: thecelestialspirit01247 > >Mailing-List: list @y...; contact - owner@y... > >Delivered-mailing list @y... > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Unsubscribe: > >Return-Path: sentto-2436732-2848-1033743617- hepc=hotmail.com@r... > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2002 21:03:55.0433 (UTC) FILETIME= [8CD84190:01C26BE9] > > > >WOW! Moe--THANKS! I can't wait to pursue this MUCH further....My background is as a yoga instructor, polarity therapist, and Reiki 2 ppractitioner, (I use crystals too)--and a little EFT (as well as a musician, as I said), so your approach makes SO much sense to me---I am already using herbal protocols(Dr. Zhang) and have recently added colostrum. I've been leaning towards Microhydrin also, because this also makes great sense to me, as well as your thoughts on the importance of ridding the body of parasites. I so appreciate the time you took to write that most informative post for me. I will devour the info greedily, as I had tried to glean some info from your posts long ago, but usually came to a dead end. Now that I know the places that you post, I'll be taking advantage of your evident expertise on an ongoing basis. Thanks so much again, and BLESS you, Sir! Sincerely yours, Satya > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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