Re: Controversy surrounding Andy

[Guest guest]

Karolyn,

The below quote was changed slightly from Jeanine's original. I cannot

fathom what information that you would require as to proof with regard

to Jeanine London. You have suggested that Glynda sent you a pic of

herself and thus Jeanine's claims must be true. Take a good look at

the pic and compare it with the pic from the Las Vegas Journal Review

story on Jeanine.

There are those who still believe that JEFFREY DAHMER was framed by an

overzealous district attorney.

Jeanine in the profile she created for me implied that that

Grace and I killed Pete.

The problem was a certain person who was using means that could not be

considered honourable by any stretch of the imagination. Evidence was

collected over a period of time with regard to this matter. You may

apply hindsight as it's usually 20/20. I have made errors with the

Jeanine situation. If you are aware of another way of dealing with

those who choose to exploit this community, by all means please do

share the information. My only fear is like you, there are others who

still believe that Jeanine is the real deal.

Andy

" You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pte

and I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as an

HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discredit

anyone and anything which effectively helps people

live a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not under

estimate the impact in profits the alternative culture

has on the medical industry. Its about money and

control....plain and simple.

> Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse

> lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if

> you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian

> Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly

> don't sound like a " National Chair " do they?

>

> The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and

> asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about

> Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up

> the group's time. This is the response I got:

>

> " You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pte

> and I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as an

> HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discredit

> anyone and anything which effectively helps people

> live a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not under

> estimate the impact in profits the alternative culture

> has on the medical industry. Its about money and

> control....plain and simple.

>

> Andy "

>

> Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at

> his " official " email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I

> have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to

> my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think.

> I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore.

> Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be

> said next!

>

> Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

Recipient's Name

Happy Easter to you too Karolyn. Yeah it sure has been strange.

All I can say is the devil is alive and well. Just sit back and

watch how this all plays out....Truth and Justice will abide.

Satya, Happy Easter to you as well. You are a fine, good soul.

In Health, Margie.

Happy Easter!

Sender

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

> Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse

> lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if

> you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian

> Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly

> don't sound like a " National Chair " do they?

>

> The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and

> asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about

> Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up

> the group's time. This is the response I got:

>

> " You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pte

> and I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as an

> HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discredit

> anyone and anything which effectively helps people

> live a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not under

> estimate the impact in profits the alternative culture

> has on the medical industry. Its about money and

> control....plain and simple.

>

> Andy "

>

> Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at

> his " official " email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I

> have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to

> my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think.

> I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore.

> Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be

> said next!

>

> Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Karolyn:

I do believe the "real" Andy is out there. I received a response to one of my posts regarding getting reduced cost meds from the pharmaceutical companies. It was from "zombocombo", which Andy admitted was his pseudonym when he first started posting under that name. I am sure you probably remember this as well. I believe that he started a website or page called zombocombo.com to discredit fraudulent health claims.

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

thanks for posting this Karolyn---what a strange world! love, Satya

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

thanks, Margie, and Happy Easter to you too, sweetie! love, Satya

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy> Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse> lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if> you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian> Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly> don't sound like a "National Chair" do they?>> The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and> asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about> Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up> the group's time. This is the response I got:>> "You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pte> and I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as an> HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discredit> anyone and anything which effectively helps people> live a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not under> estimate the impact in profits the alternative culture> has on the medical industry. Its about money and> control....plain and simple.>> Andy">> Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at> his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I> have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to> my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think.> I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore.> Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be> said next!>> Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I agree, most of his posts do not sound

like a national chair of anything short of the pranksters society. However,

Andy is actively involved with the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition. They are

dealing with a broad body of issues, like blood supply and insurance coverage.

He was on a mission to get Jeanine off of

this group. During that, he got caught up in the game playing. I think we

should let that die down. There is a real person under there that has some good

things to share. I know, I know, you might find that hard to believe after the

crap that came down. I was surprised myself.

In Health!

Jay W. Emmons

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Controversy surrounding Andy

thanks for posting this

Karolyn---what a strange world! love, Satya

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of

the discourse

lately, but something has been really gnawing at

me. I don't know if

you all know that Andy is the National Chair of

the Canadian

Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His

posts certainly

don't sound like a " National Chair " do

they?

The other thing is the response I got from him

when I emailed and

asked him if he had any proof to back up some of

his claims about

Jeanine. I had used private email because I did

not want to take up

the group's time. This is the response I got:

" You without a doubt absolutely correct. I

did kill Pte

and I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as an

HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discredit

anyone and anything which effectively helps people

live a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not

under

estimate the impact in profits the alternative

culture

has on the medical industry. Its about

money and

control....plain and simple.

Andy "

Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and

contacted him at

his " official " email address to try to

get to the bottom of this. I

have received no answer thus far. I gave him a

chance to respond to

my query before posting the above. I STILL don't

know what to think.

I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha

Christie mystery anymore.

Makes for good reading if nothing else just to

hear what's gonna be

said next!

Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all.

Love. Karolyn

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Jay:

I agree with you. The only "venom" was directed at Jeanine and what she was trying to do here. I look forward to the information that he has to share. He has been very helpful.

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay,

What do you make of me? I am a three time Democratic congressional candidate and former state assemble candidate. I have owned two businesses and currently chair the Wisconsin chapter of the National Anti-Drug Coalition. Perhaps I can be Bozo and Andy can be Chuckles in the HCV Parade.

I just don't like frauds. There are no cures, or QOLs, for HCV except the interferon/ribavarin 'cocktail' at present -- the future looks promising. The current science indicates that protease inhibitors will do away with the current treatment. For those of us with time to wait that's great news, for those of us with less time that's also great news but it isn't going to help us now.

There are those here, we know the names, that are axiomatically opposed to science and technology (even though they use computers, automobiles, and the rest of mankind's mastery over nature). They are Luddites. I am sure I don't need to explain the warped outlook or the bizarre paradoxes of such a state of mind.

Milk thistle is good IF you can get the real deal -- one of the troubles with the natural health INDUSTRY is that is isn't regulated and what a person gets sold isn't always what is being advertised.

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

sorry, but Jeannine was NOT the only one. I've been attacked more than once by Andy. I do agree he has good large body of info to share--it's in the area of maturity that he's lacking....just MHO

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

Yes, others were ¡Æhit¡Ç in this attack;

like collateral damage in Iraq. I was hit also. However, let us forgive and move on. I

believe you are already seeing a different Andy. We all (hopefully) are

growing.

In Health!

Jay W. Emmons

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Controversy surrounding Andy

sorry, but Jeannine was NOT the only

one. I've been attacked more than once by Andy. I do agree he has good large

body of info to share--it's in the area of maturity that he's lacking....just

MHO

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of

the discourse

lately, but something has been

really gnawing at me. I don't know if

you all know that Andy is the

National Chair of the Canadian

Hepatitis C Coalition of something

like that. His posts certainly

don't sound like a " National

Chair " do they?

The other thing is the response I

got from him when I emailed and

asked him if he had any proof to

back up some of his claims about

Jeanine. I had used private email

because I did not want to take up

the group's time. This is the

response I got:

" You without a doubt absolutely

correct. I did kill Pte

and I work for big pharma. My job is

to pose as an

HCV+ person on HCV+ support forums

and discredit

anyone and anything which

effectively helps people

live a healthy life and avoid

drugs. Do not under

estimate the impact in profits the

alternative culture

has on the medical

industry. Its about money and

control....plain and simple.

Andy "

Does it make you wonder??? I have

been, and contacted him at

his " official " email

address to try to get to the bottom of this. I

have received no answer thus far. I

gave him a chance to respond to

my query before posting the above. I

STILL don't know what to think.

I feel like I'm in the middle of an

Agatha Christie mystery anymore.

Makes for good reading if nothing

else just to hear what's gonna be

said next!

Happy Easter to Everyone and God

bless you all. Love. Karolyn

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I'll give it my best shot! love, Satya

[ ] Controversy surrounding Andy

Hello Everyone - I have held my tongue through all of the discourse lately, but something has been really gnawing at me. I don't know if you all know that Andy is the National Chair of the Canadian Hepatitis C Coalition of something like that. His posts certainly don't sound like a "National Chair" do they? The other thing is the response I got from him when I emailed and asked him if he had any proof to back up some of his claims about Jeanine. I had used private email because I did not want to take up the group's time. This is the response I got:"You without a doubt absolutely correct. I did kill Pteand I work for big pharma. My job is to pose as anHCV+ person on HCV+ support forums and discreditanyone and anything which effectively helps peoplelive a healthy life and avoid drugs. Do not underestimate the impact in profits the alternative culturehas on the medical industry. Its about money andcontrol....plain and simple.Andy"Does it make you wonder??? I have been, and contacted him at his "official" email address to try to get to the bottom of this. I have received no answer thus far. I gave him a chance to respond to my query before posting the above. I STILL don't know what to think. I feel like I'm in the middle of an Agatha Christie mystery anymore. Makes for good reading if nothing else just to hear what's gonna be said next!Happy Easter to Everyone and God bless you all. Love. Karolyn