some more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

[Guest guest]

This is some of the stuff Jeff and Jeanine London are famous for.

This doc here is a fraud who sells weight reduction scams. Now Jeff

has converted him to an AIDS specialist. "Dr. Lucca Moretti ,

a physician specializing in the treatment of AIDS". Do check

out his CV and all the prestigious research centres he is affiliated with.

Anyone can set anything with any kind of official name. And these people

complain about the big pharma. By the way Jeff at least you could spell the

Great Doctors name correctly.

LUCA MORETTI, MD (Boca Raton, Florida)

Dr. Luca Moretti is a professor at St. University

in Miami, Florida and CEO, and director of research at the International

Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, Florida, and secretary of the World

Academy of Medicine. Dr. Moretti discovered the Master Amino Acid Pattern

(MAP) and holds over 27 international patents. He is the creator of Bioshape

& Protivity and will share with you a revolutionary way to gain or

lose weight.

For faster weight loss,

Dr. Luca's plan as outlined below: Breakfast

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape (5-8

tablets)

Lunch

1.5 - 2 lbs fruit*

One serving of BioShape(5-8 tablets)

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Dinner

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Snacks

As much fresh fruit as desired

Your normal supplement regimen should continue throughout

this program.

* no bananas

**BioShape should replace meat in only two meals daily.

The third meal should include chicken or fish.

[Guest guest]

Just to be fair, bigpharma is also notorious for setting up bogus

associations to sell their wares.

[Guest guest]

Very curious; a diet of only fruit,

chicken and pills…I would imagine it is not a scam and might work without

the complex carbo’s. Wouldn’t you say so, Andy? Come on, admit it.

Fruit chicken (or fish) and some tablets; wouldn’t you imagine one could

loose weight on that? So, why is it (necessarily) a scam?

In Health!

JWE.

[ ] some

more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

This is some of the stuff Jeff and

Jeanine London are famous for. This doc here is a fraud who sells weight

reduction scams. Now Jeff has converted him to an AIDS specialist. " Dr. Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of

AIDS " . Do check out his CV and all the prestigious research

centres he is affiliated with. Anyone can set anything with any kind of

official name. And these people complain about the big pharma. By the way Jeff

at least you could spell the Great Doctors name correctly.

LUCA MORETTI, MD (Boca Raton,

Florida)

Dr. Luca Moretti is a professor at St.

University in Miami, Florida and CEO, and director of research at the

International Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, Florida, and secretary

of the World Academy of Medicine. Dr. Moretti discovered the Master Amino Acid

Pattern (MAP) and holds over 27 international patents. He is the creator of Bioshape & Protivity and will share

with you a revolutionary way to gain or lose weight.

For

faster weight loss,

Dr. Luca's plan as outlined below:

Breakfast

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape (5-8 tablets)

Lunch

1.5 - 2 lbs fruit*

One serving of BioShape(5-8 tablets)

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Dinner

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Snacks

As much fresh fruit as desired

Your normal supplement regimen should

continue throughout this program.

* no bananas

**BioShape should replace meat in only two meals

daily.

The third meal should include chicken or fish.

[Guest guest]

I don't know Jay, just a hunch.

We you claim to be secretary of the world renowned World Academy of Medicine,

when in actually your not even a member. Personally I'd pick something better

to be a member of , but I'm not scamming anyone.

When you claim to be CEO, and director of research at the International Nutrition

Research Center in Boca Raton, something in me tells me to watch my wallet.

Then to claim you are a prof at St. University in Miami and they

have never heard of that person, 99 times out of a hundred you got what you

call a "scam".

You see Jay, you can claim to be the Queen of England if it pleases you,

you may claim to have many University degrees from whatever university strikes

your fancy. But if you attempt to gain monetarily from the deception, this

Jay is called fraud. When you phrase something in the context of "and some tablets",

it sounds so innocent. You may as well eat some $20.00 bills as they will

have more impact on your system than this eminent world renowned doc. I wonder

if this doc has been nominated for the Nobel prize as his esteemed colleague

Doc Flanagan has?

I could go on, but I think your catching where I'm coming from.

Jay Emmons wrote:

Very curious;

a diet of only fruit, chicken and pills…I would imagine it is not a scam

and might work without the complex carbo’s. Wouldn’t you say so, Andy? Come

on, admit it. Fruit chicken (or fish) and some tablets; wouldn’t you imagine

one could loose weight on that? So, why is it (necessarily) a scam?

In Health!

JWE.

-----Original

Message-----

From: (Andy) Aitken [mailto:alexaitken@...]

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003

7:40 PM

Subject: [ ]

some more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

This is some of the

stuff Jeff and Jeanine London are famous for. This doc here is a

fraud who sells weight reduction scams. Now Jeff has converted him

to an AIDS specialist. "Dr.

Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of AIDS".

Do check out his CV and all the prestigious research centres he is affiliated

with. Anyone can set anything with any kind of official name. And these people

complain about the big pharma. By the way Jeff at least you could spell the

Great Doctors name correctly.

LUCA MORETTI, MD (Boca Raton, Florida)

Dr. Luca Moretti is a professor at St. University

in Miami, Florida and CEO, and director of research at the International

Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, Florida, and secretary of the World

Academy of Medicine. Dr. Moretti discovered the Master Amino Acid Pattern

(MAP) and holds over 27 international patents. He is the creator of Bioshape & Protivity and will

share with you a revolutionary way to gain or lose weight.

For faster weight loss,

Dr. Luca's plan as outlined below:

Breakfast

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape (5-8 tablets)

Lunch

1.5 - 2 lbs fruit*

One serving of BioShape(5-8 tablets)

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or

fish**

Dinner

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or

fish**

Snacks

As much fresh fruit as desired

Your normal supplement regimen

should continue throughout this program.

* no bananas

**BioShape should replace meat in only two meals daily.

The third meal should include chicken or fish.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I am not far from what you are saying

on a couple of points. The CEO was a red flag to me also…But are we

rolling everyone into the same ball of wax?

I have been a cynic of MLM marketing

statements for a long time. I had RBC (when Flanagan was still associated with

them) correct some incorrect statements about botanicals they were making in

their literature. But there is a substantial gulf to get to fraud.

See, Andy, (or , excuse me)

nothing you say is provable either (to be fair - so far). It is as you say,

just a hunch. It seems somewhat stretching it to claim someone and everyone

associated with them are frauds on a hunch, wouldn’t you say?

Speaking of questions, would you care to

answer if you thought that eating only fruit, 2 serving of chicken and some

tablets might cause you to loose weight? It was a literal – although tongue

in cheek – question. To me it obviously would and if so, then his claim

to loose weight would not be fraud.

If you state that he is falsely claiming a

college degree, please save us from him by substantiating it. Otherwise you

insult your intelligence by building a whole fraud claim on a hunch. You come

across so scientific in other matters.

I do catch where you are coming from and

humbly offer to you that you are doing yourself a disservice by not backing up

your very serious claims.

In Health!

Jay

[ ] some

more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

This is some of the stuff Jeff and

Jeanine London are famous for. This doc here is a fraud who sells weight

reduction scams. Now Jeff has converted him to an AIDS specialist. " Dr. Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of

AIDS " . Do check out his CV and all the prestigious research

centres he is affiliated with. Anyone can set anything with any kind of

official name. And these people complain about the big pharma. By the way Jeff

at least you could spell the Great Doctors name correctly.

LUCA MORETTI, MD (Boca Raton,

Florida)

Dr. Luca Moretti is a professor at St.

University in Miami, Florida and CEO, and director of research at the International

Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, Florida, and secretary of the World

Academy of Medicine. Dr. Moretti discovered the Master Amino Acid Pattern (MAP)

and holds over 27 international patents. He is the creator of Bioshape & Protivity and will share

with you a revolutionary way to gain or lose weight.

For

faster weight loss,

Dr. Luca's plan as outlined below:

Breakfast

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape (5-8 tablets)

Lunch

1.5 - 2 lbs fruit*

One serving of BioShape(5-8 tablets)

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Dinner

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Snacks

As much fresh fruit as desired

Your normal supplement regimen should

continue throughout this program.

* no bananas

**BioShape should replace meat in only two meals

daily.

The third meal should include chicken or fish.

[Guest guest]

I say this with a smile, but that is

non-news Andy. It is big of you to acknowledge it though. Point well made.

In Health!

JWE

Re: [ ]

some more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

Just to be fair, bigpharma is also notorious for

setting up bogus

associations

to sell their wares.

[Guest guest]

yeah, where you're coming from is you're sounding like a broken record, Andy----ever hear of beating a dead horse? I'm not sure, but would some of us like to start a new conversation concerning managing hep c? Now I'm getting kind of irritated, because I've really like belonging to this group for two years now, but lately I don't even feel like logging on......I thought we were supposed to be battling hep c ( ?), not each other.......peace, Satya

Re: [ ] some more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

I don't know Jay, just a hunch.We you claim to be secretary of the world renowned World Academy of Medicine, when in actually your not even a member. Personally I'd pick something better to be a member of , but I'm not scamming anyone.When you claim to be CEO, and director of research at the International Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, something in me tells me to watch my wallet. Then to claim you are a prof at St. University in Miami and they have never heard of that person, 99 times out of a hundred you got what you call a "scam". You see Jay, you can claim to be the Queen of England if it pleases you, you may claim to have many University degrees from whatever university strikes your fancy. But if you attempt to gain monetarily from the deception, this Jay is called fraud. When you phrase something in the context of "and some tablets", it sounds so innocent. You may as well eat some $20.00 bills as they will have more impact on your system than this eminent world renowned doc. I wonder if this doc has been nominated for the Nobel prize as his esteemed colleague Doc Flanagan has?I could go on, but I think your catching where I'm coming from.Jay Emmons wrote:

Very curious; a diet of only fruit, chicken and pills…I would imagine it is not a scam and might work without the complex carbo’s. Wouldn’t you say so, Andy? Come on, admit it. Fruit chicken (or fish) and some tablets; wouldn’t you imagine one could loose weight on that? So, why is it (necessarily) a scam?

In Health!

JWE.

-----Original Message-----From: (Andy) Aitken [mailto:alexaitken@...] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: [ ] some more of Jeff & Jeanine's tricks

This is some of the stuff Jeff and Jeanine London are famous for. This doc here is a fraud who sells weight reduction scams. Now Jeff has converted him to an AIDS specialist. "Dr. Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of AIDS". Do check out his CV and all the prestigious research centres he is affiliated with. Anyone can set anything with any kind of official name. And these people complain about the big pharma. By the way Jeff at least you could spell the Great Doctors name correctly.

LUCA MORETTI, MD (Boca Raton, Florida)

Dr. Luca Moretti is a professor at St. University in Miami, Florida and CEO, and director of research at the International Nutrition Research Center in Boca Raton, Florida, and secretary of the World Academy of Medicine. Dr. Moretti discovered the Master Amino Acid Pattern (MAP) and holds over 27 international patents. He is the creator of Bioshape & Protivity and will share with you a revolutionary way to gain or lose weight.

For faster weight loss,Dr. Luca's plan as outlined below:

Breakfast

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape (5-8 tablets)

Lunch

1.5 - 2 lbs fruit*

One serving of BioShape(5-8 tablets)

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Dinner

1.5 - 2 lbs. fruit*

One serving of BioShape

or your desired portion of skinless chicken or fish**

Snacks

As much fresh fruit as desired

Your normal supplement regimen should continue throughout this program.

* no bananas

**BioShape should replace meat in only two meals daily.

The third meal should include chicken or fish.