Re: ANDY do you need a quater for the call?

March 27, 2003

Andy,

I have answered politely, several times.

I DO NOT SELL ANYTHING....except the occasional produce from my garden. Why do you insist on continuing to badger me? Andy, Pharm rep...who receive money from Pharms to hassle naturalists who are costing Uncle Pharm millions of dollars..... I do not receive a dime from any supplement manufacturer, or comapnay seeling supplemnets. I do not receive any compensation whatsoever.

How many times must I post this rebut to your accusation? better, why do yuou continue to make it? Andy, you do realise internet liable is still liable, right? Or do yo have all the pharm lawyers and bucks backing you up on that.

If I am making big bucks, Andy, why did I have my water shut off yesterday, and have to spend 30 minutes begging the electric guy to take a bad check & keep my lights on? I stood online for two hours this morning to pick up gov. food which I cannot eat most of, so I gave it to my neighbors..... What the hell... You really are a mean individual, Andy.

The FDA knows exactly where I live, and I am not going anywhere, I don't even own a car. I would love to have my day in court, and I hope you are there when I swear under oath & before God, to everything I have said here for three years.

You know why the FDA hasn't shut me down, Andy? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. I am telling the truth, & I am not dselling anything and they cannot dispute my tests, and testimony, and they know it. I have been doing this for three years...what are they waiting for? I am their worst frieking night mare, and GOD, that gives me such JOY!

What are you waitng for? WHY WAIT 24 HOURS? Don't put it off another second Andy, The suspense is too much.

Yo, Andy....

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you, (ANDY IS HERE)

then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

>From: "(Andy) Aitken"

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March 27, 2003

Fine,

Internet liable? Please...Just please remove the links from your posts that

are directed to your various sites where you sell product. If you wish to

claim you have been cured or whatever, please do. If you wish to sell product

then invite people to visit your various web sites of list. You should qualify

your intent to people prior to your invitation. Tell people you are selling

product. Don't con them. People are vulnerable when they are sick and scared.

Dispute your tests. What tests. Everyone we have researched came out at a

dead end. When contacted we seem to find the following: The person didn't

write the attached testimonial. They don't exist etc. I know some will jump

to protect you as to disagree with your claims would in effect be admitting

they have spent thousands of dollars on crystals and water. Most people who

have been conned never admit it or fail to inform anyone as they feel deep

shame for letting someone pretend they are their friend and then steal their

money.

1.***And a question for big brother....don't you wonder why you haven't been

able to screw with my head? Does it bother you that you can't touch me?

can't make me sick? can't mess with my mind? Ya, this is me sticking out

my toungue at you! ~ ***

2.Jeanine London was dying of Hepatitis C when divine intervention brought

her everything necessary to be whole. Jeanine and Jeff will discuss Divine

Flow from the human cell to the Cosmos. Cost: $15.

3.. I found four...These sites all sell product.

www.divinenutritionawareness.homestead.com

http://survivalpack.homestead.com/...

http://hepchelp.homestead.com/

http://groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/

4. This is complete BS. This is from Jeff 's the HCV experts survival

pack site. How many web sites do you guys have? Dr. Bruce J. Marlow has never

worked at any time at this university.

5. Jeanine why do all the links on your replys lead to other homestead sites

that sell product. Or is it Jeff the your saviour that you met in 1993 or

is it 1998 or 1995, at least get your story straight. Is suspect you are

as surprised as I am that your love is using your recovery from HCV end stage

to sell this garbage to sick people.

Jeanine London wrote:

Andy,

I have answered politely, several times.

I DO NOT SELL ANYTHING....except the occasional produce from my garden.

Why do you insist on continuing to badger me? Andy, Pharm rep...who receive

money from Pharms to hassle naturalists who are costing Uncle Pharm millions

of dollars..... I do not receive a dime from any supplement manufacturer,

or comapnay seeling supplemnets. I do not receive any compensation whatsoever.

How many times must I post this rebut to your accusation? better, why

do yuou continue to make it? Andy, you do realise internet liable is still

liable, right? Or do yo have all the pharm lawyers and bucks backing you

up on that.

If I am making big bucks, Andy, why did I have my water shut off yesterday,

and have to spend 30 minutes begging the electric guy to take a bad check

& keep my lights on? I stood online for two hours this morning to pick

up gov. food which I cannot eat most of, so I gave it to my neighbors.....

What the hell... You really are a mean individual, Andy.

The FDA knows exactly where I live, and I am not going anywhere, I don't

even own a car. I would love to have my day in court, and I hope you are

there when I swear under oath & before God, to everything I have said

here for three years.

You know why the FDA hasn't shut me down, Andy? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.

I am telling the truth, & I am not dselling anything and they cannot

dispute my tests, and testimony, and they know it. I have been doing this

for three years...what are they waiting for? I am their worst frieking

night mare, and GOD, that gives me such JOY!

What are you waitng for? WHY WAIT 24 HOURS? Don't put it off another

second Andy, The suspense is too much.

Yo, Andy....

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you, (ANDY IS HERE)

then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

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> >Jeanine London, > >I've asked politely. Now I'm going

to ask once again. Please cease >immediately from selling products on

this support groups site. > >I'm still somewhat upset as to your

claim of being "end stage". The only >end stage that will come to you

and Jeff is end stage MLM, when the US >government shuts you down. >

>People who troll internet support groups looking for victims are why

you >have a FDA. I have a good list of other diseases you are cured from.

>Would you like me to post them. I suspect your answer is "yes" as you

>wouldn't prey on sick people in the name of greed. 24 hours Jeanine.

> >Andy >

March 27, 2003

Jeanine,

Since you felt obligated to suggest I consider my legal options when

writing about you, I have taken the liberty to return the favor.

When using the Web to sell product you should have a disclaimer similar

to the one I have provided below. For someone who's in financial trouble

you might think of cutting down on your web sites and toll free

numbers. People who actually do HCV telephone support would love to have

the funds you seem to have to spend on web sites, toll free numbers etc.

Plus you do this for nothing. Maybe I will nominate you for the Nobel

prize. Then you could claim you have been nominated as Pat Flanagan

claims he was. Psst: (no one is nominated for the Nobel Prize, they are

considered and this is done secretly as to prevent Scam artists like

Gillis(Paddy) Flanagan using the claim that they have been nominated).

Please feel free to call 1-970-527-7453,

www.divinenutritionawareness.homestead.com

http://survivalpack.homestead.com/...

http://hepchelp.homestead.com/

http://groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/

All material and information presented by __________homestead.com and on

this website is intended to be used for educational purposes only. The

statements made about products, nutritional supplements, therapies,

formulas and any other means of healing have not been evaluated by the

Food and Drug Administration. The information on this site is not

intended to treat, cure, or prevent any condition or disease. Please

consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding

the suggestions and recommendations made on this website or in our reports.

YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SPEAK WITH A PRACTITIONER BEFORE TAKING ANY DIETARY,

NUTRITIONAL, HERBAL OR HOMEOPATHIC SUPPLEMENT, OR BEGINNING ANY THERAPY.

We do not warranty and shall have no liability regarding information

provided in this site regarding supplements for any and all health

purposes. THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED SOLELY AS INFORMATION FOR YOU TO

USE WHEN DISCUSSING A REGIMEN WITH YOUR OWN HELATHCARE PRACTITIONER OR

MEDICAL DOCTOR.

March 27, 2003

This is insane...or do you just count on people not doing their homework, the way all good pharm reps count on people to be sheeple? Hard to believe Peg Money pays for your harrasment.

People can read, thankfully are smarter than you give them credit for....and thanks for providing the links. That was a smooth move.

Again, Andy... Call the IRS..ask them to investigate... I do not receive money from any supplement manufacturer, or provider. They have all the financial records of any possible part involved.

When I first recovered I sold products from RBC until I discovered and revealed they were defrauding their customers and was sued by them to keep silent, and susbsequently terminated. I chose to never deal with MLM assholes again. So I do not.

You will notice in my standard reply about my protocol I offer links to many manufactures or sellers of the various supps I use. Write to each one and ask them if they are paying me anything, Pharmboy, admitted receiver of pharm blood money... OH...there is the Mtn Rose herb link at my site which I have received a $35 check from, which will be used to fund THCHAMP.... which is of course the really problem here, after all, eh, Andy? You used to be so nice to me until I announced THCHAMP..then Uncle Pharm went, "Holy psychosis, Drugman! What if she actually docments her claims...gathers evidence...and God forbid, TELLS PEOPLE!!!!" There are Pharm guys growing new ulcers cuz of me....and I could help them get over them! (hey, copy and paste that, Andy...)

Oh, and btw, the $15 seminar fee was requirement of the people putting on the conference, I am sure they still remember the hassle we gave them about it as we do everything free of charge!!! But the fee was to go to them...we did not have anyone attend, however. But, nice try...

I believe God speaks to people in their own language. I will reach out to people in whatever world they live in, regardless of my theology, philosophy, or faith. I even have a site for chemtrail enthiusiasts. I would have one for gay bikers and peeping toms if I had the time to make them. As it is I have never heard from anyone off the divenutrition site, and the traffic markers show no one goes there....its not registered, or advertised, and what other site listed could anyone have a problem with? There is my story at www.hepchelp.homestead.com, our forum at Hep C Help, www.groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/general.msnw, that I constantly refer to here...big news there, Andy.... Jeff's site for survival pack, www.survivalpack.homestead.com nothing to hide there... My picture is on the About us page.....

Next?

Do you actually get paid for this? That's about as fiscally responsible as spending $80 million on a war for oil we could replace with hydrogen fuel cells... or feed people with... or buy supplements for indigent HCV+ with.... of course, free energy would not finace the world....and Sister Pharm....sister to Brother Petrochemical, has an appetite for the finer things. And like her brother, she doesn't care who dies to satisfy them.

I provide my link in everything because I want people to read my story and think for a second about the possiblilty of living and not dieing, of a better way than the poisons you push... I want tehm to have hope...because I wish to God someone had been ther to tell me these things when I first got sick, and save me from reaching the symptoms of END STAGE.And I created THCHAMP to give all of us a voice and a choice...and you cannot stop us. There are too many now.

Andy, just so you know I am not without compassion. You can help an ulcer by alkalising your system... I know of no quicker way for the body to achieve a slight alkalinity than Flanagan Micrloclusters.

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you,

then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

We do not attempt to treat a condition, disease or illness.

Our goal is to achieve a bioterrain, an environment in the body where no pathogen can live, and replete with nutrients and hydrides in sufficient amounts which allow the body to heal itself.

This is how I maintain a healthy bioterrain:

First, I choose to not put poisons, chemicals, drugs, processed foods, simple carbohydrates, soy, red meat, and dead, chemically laden water, in my body.

Second, I provide my body with Flanagan’s Silica Hydride and Microclusters© found in Active H- and Super Hydrate, in sufficient amounts to provide the following benefits which are the foundation to every healing function of the body.

These are some of the benefits: restores foods to a raw, organic nutritional state; creates an alkaline, electron rich environment in the body; provides delivery of 100% of nutrients in their whole form to the cell; encapsulates and carries nutrients past the liver, allowing the liver to use energy to heal instead of processing foods, harmful wastes, and even Rx drugs; restores proper cellular communication, reversing realoux, exposing the entire surface of the cell to receive nutrients and oxygen and expel toxins and wastes; detoxifies the body on the cellular level; passes the blood brain barrier carrying its cargo of nutrients and oxygen, delivering nutrients and oxygen to the brain while simultaneously detoxifying the brain –good-bye brain fog-; feeds the mitochondria, creating Adenisine Tri-phosphate (ATP), or energy, providing a non-caloric source of energy, energy without food; reduces the creation of lactic acid during exercise, lessening muscle soreness and stiffness and accelerating recovery after exercise; restores perfect stasis of cells creating balance and harmony; creates or restores the crystalline formation of body fluids; increases the production of Somatids, solidified particles of light, in the body….in other words, it forms crystals in your body and infuses them with light.

Third, I provide my body with a wide array of nutrients, vitamins, minerals & amino acids necessary for healing. I use Pure Synergy, Vita-Synergy, and the Master Amino Acid Pattern to accomplish this. I use the Synergy products because they are made from FOOD, not processed or synthesized materials which the body cannot use. Synergy maintains the Life within the plant and has very strict quality controls. The nutrients are NOT isolates, but are maintained in the whole form, within the “divine soup” they are naturally a part of, to ensure each nutrient functions as intended. Combining Vita-Synergy and Pure Synergy provides your body with everything it needs to heal in the proper proportions. The Master Amino Acid Pattern provides your body with sufficient amino acids, in very specific proportion which allow the body to create every other amino acid it needs. Your body cannot heal without sufficient long chain amino acids. Amino acids, the building blocks of protein, create a nitrogen waste during digestion. Protein digestion can accelerate liver disease. The Master Amino Acid Pattern, (MAP) creates virtually no nitrogen waste while giving your protein necessary to healing, and every function of the body. (Use caution when using amino acid supplements. If you do not know the NNU, net nitrogen utalization, do not use it.)

Fourth, I take a probiotic complex to provide my system with enough beneficial bacteria to maintain balance. Digestion is key to detoxification. Without proper elimination the body will not maintain balance and a whole array of conditions arise from retaining wastes. These beneficial bacteria are destroyed by drugs and poor diet, and must be supplemented for adequate restoration.

Fifth, I take bovine colostrum to enhance and continually build my immune system. Colostrum is the Pre-milk made by mammals, is packed with immunoglobulins and nothing provides your immune system with the power it need like bovine colostrum. See www.groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/colostrum.msnw for more information on colostrum.

Sixth, during my recovery from HCV I used Ravensara essential oil to kill virus. Ravensara is the most powerful Natural anti-viral substance you can get, and the only thing which will not alter the balance of your system, or harm any other cell in the body while killing virus. It is completely safe, and effective. Eventually one can create an environment where no virus can live. But initially, the Active H- along with the Pure Synergy are detoxifying your cells, flushing virus from your tissues back into the blood stream. I used the ravensara to hit the virus head on, and consider it vital especially during the initial detoxification.

All together there are 8 supplements we have found sufficient to effectively create and maintain balanced bioterrain, while providing your body with everything it needs to heal. I am often asked what can be eliminated, to save money. But if we are to address the entire bioterrain, which we must do in order to create an environment inhospitable to pathogens, then every element of this protocol is essential. No one thing can be used to achieve recovery, and no one thing can be left out and still allow complete recovery.

Every malady in the human body stems from malnutrition and dehydration. When the bioterrain is corrected, brought into balanced, fully nourished and hydrated, every condition created by imbalance and malnutrition and dehydration is eliminated as well.

The human body is designed to heal itself provided the proper nutritional tools for the job. In my opinion, it has no choice but to heal if it is getting the right stuff. If it is not healing and becoming more resistant to disease, something is missing, it is not getting the right stuff.

Your body needs a wide array of nutrients…and the life restored to them, that’s all. You don’t need the latest wonder drug, or exotic mojo, or extracts of body parts. Just the right stuff, in the right amounts.

Its that simple. And it should be.

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March 27, 2003

Jeanine,

You're obviously insane. You're scamming people and making a profit off of their illness. How you look in the mirror everyday is beyond me.

March 27, 2003

Now you are being silly. The toll free number has been defunct over a

year...can't pay the bill. Homestead costs me about $60 a year...and every

site I do on the one account. I pay the bill every harvest....from my

garden....after I go to market, and the people give me money for my produce,

I go to the PO and buy a money order, put it in an envelope, put a stamp on

the envelope and send it to Homestead....can I break it down for you any

further?

Hmmm... does uncle pharm know you have this much trouble understanding

things?

I do not need a disclaimer on my sites, because I DO NOT SELL ANYTHING on my

sites. You will note a disclaimer on Jeff's site. He sells stuff.

Enough silliness, Andy. Leave it be, or write me privately....don't waste

everyone's time with your attempt to impress Uncle Pharm and get a raise.

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you,

then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

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>Jeanine,

>

>Since you felt obligated to suggest I consider my legal options when

>writing about you, I have taken the liberty to return the favor.

>

>When using the Web to sell product you should have a disclaimer similar

>to the one I have provided below. For someone who's in financial trouble

>you might think of cutting down on your web sites and toll free

>numbers. People who actually do HCV telephone support would love to have

>the funds you seem to have to spend on web sites, toll free numbers etc.

>Plus you do this for nothing. Maybe I will nominate you for the Nobel

>prize. Then you could claim you have been nominated as Pat Flanagan

>claims he was. Psst: (no one is nominated for the Nobel Prize, they are

>considered and this is done secretly as to prevent Scam artists like

>Gillis(Paddy) Flanagan using the claim that they have been nominated).

>

>Please feel free to call 1-970-527-7453,

>

>www.divinenutritionawareness.homestead.com

> http://survivalpack.homestead.com/...

> http://hepchelp.homestead.com/

> http://groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/

>

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>intended to treat, cure, or prevent any condition or disease. Please

>consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding

>the suggestions and recommendations made on this website or in our reports.

>YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SPEAK WITH A PRACTITIONER BEFORE TAKING ANY DIETARY,

>NUTRITIONAL, HERBAL OR HOMEOPATHIC SUPPLEMENT, OR BEGINNING ANY THERAPY.

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March 27, 2003

Lets see, 4 web sites. one toll free number and I'm to call the IRS?

Please...pharm boy? Admitted pharm boy. This one I don't get. As always,

attack the messenger, not the message.

Please, this is a very simple message. Not interested in how much you

make, who you sell to or if you had your water disconnected. Please,

offer advice, wisdom, how you got away from HCV. But please stop selling

things to people who are looking for assistance, support and guidance.

People aren't looking for miracle cures.

Andy

March 27, 2003

cute moon....way to go, Jeannine!...I'm sick of watching people bash Jeff and Jeannine when I have personal experience with them, and know they are on the up and up.....At my own request, they have taught me about a nutritional program which has helped me achieve a balance in my biochemistry; improving my health quite a bit in the last few months....Not to mention recommending products which I have bought independently over the internet, NOT from either Jeff nor Jeannine. If I find out they can set up a bulk order for a number of us, we save ourselves some money. I have never witnessed personal solicitation when it comes to either Jeff or Jeannine, on this site or any other, so please stop accusing them of something for which they are not guilty. Thanks. sincerely, Satya

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March 27, 2003

Satya,

What my dear would you suggest this post from Jeanine to someone seeking

support and education for HCV. Please count the links, follow them, and then

ask yourself one simple question. Should people market products on a supprt

site? Would it be okay for Schering and Roche to answer pots suggesting people

use their products? HCV is a very complicated disease. To suggest there is

a simple cure that only costs $400.00 to $500.00 to cure the disease in a

few simple steps is a great disservice to those suffering form HCV.

I have only asked that those who use this web site to promote products should

stop as this is a support and education web site.

Andy

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"Jeanine London" <hepc@h...>

Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:04 am

Subject: Re: [ ] I HAVE HEP C

Dear T.J.,

I do not have HCV anymore. I had it for

28 years and reached the symptoms of end stage. Others have tested undetectable

and are off transplant lists and still more are regaining their health and

are recovering using Natural means.

We do not attempt to treat a condition,

disease or illness.

Our goal is to achieve a bioterrain, an environment in the

body where no pathogen can live, and replete with nutrients and hydrides

in sufficient amounts which allow the body to heal itself.

This is how I maintain a healthy bioterrain:

First, I choose to not put poisons, chemicals, drugs, processed

foods, simple carbohydrates, soy, red meat, and dead, chemically laden water,

in my body.

Second, I provide my body with Flanagan’s Silica Hydride and Microclusters© found in

Active H- and Super Hydrate, in sufficient amounts to provide the following

benefits which are the foundation to every healing function of the body.

These are some of the benefits: restores foods to a raw,

organic nutritional state; creates an alkaline, electron rich environment

in the body; provides delivery of 100% of nutrients in their whole form to

the cell; encapsulates and carries nutrients past the liver, allowing the

liver to use energy to heal instead of processing foods, harmful wastes,

and even Rx drugs; restores proper cellular communication, reversing realoux,

exposing the entire surface of the cell to receive nutrients and oxygen and

expel toxins and wastes; detoxifies the body on the cellular level; passes

the blood brain barrier carrying its cargo of nutrients and oxygen, delivering

nutrients and oxygen to the brain while simultaneously detoxifying the brain

–good-bye brain fog-; feeds the mitochondria, creating Adenisine Tri-phosphate

(ATP), or energy, providing a non-caloric source of energy, energy without

food; reduces the creation of lactic acid during exercise, lessening muscle

soreness and stiffness and accelerating recovery after exercise; restores

perfect stasis of cells creating balance and harmony; creates or restores

the crystalline formation of body fluids; increases the production of Somatids, solidified particles of light, in the body….in

other words, it forms crystals in your body and infuses them with light.

Third, I provide my body with a wide array of nutrients, vitamins,

minerals & amino acids necessary for healing. I use Pure Synergy, Vita-Synergy, and the Master Amino Acid Pattern to accomplish this. I use the

Synergy products because they are made from FOOD, not processed or synthesized

materials which the body cannot use. Synergy maintains the Life within the

plant and has very strict quality controls. The nutrients are NOT isolates,

but are maintained in the whole form, within the “divine soup” they are naturally

a part of, to ensure each nutrient functions as intended. Combining Vita-Synergy

and Pure Synergy provides your body with everything it needs to heal in the

proper proportions. The Master Amino Acid Pattern provides your body with

sufficient amino acids, in very specific proportion which allow the body

to create every other amino acid it needs. Your body cannot heal without

sufficient long chain amino acids. Amino acids, the building blocks of protein,

create a nitrogen waste during digestion. Protein digestion can accelerate

liver disease. The Master Amino Acid Pattern, (MAP) creates virtually no

nitrogen waste while giving your protein necessary to healing, and every

function of the body. (Use caution when using amino acid supplements. If

you do not know the NNU, net nitrogen utalization, do not use it.)

Fourth, I take a probiotic complex to provide my system with

enough beneficial bacteria to maintain balance. Digestion is key to detoxification.

Without proper elimination the body will not maintain balance and a whole

array of conditions arise from retaining wastes. These beneficial bacteria

are destroyed by drugs and poor diet, and must be supplemented for adequate

restoration.

Fifth, I take bovine colostrum to enhance and continually

build my immune system. Colostrum is the Pre-milk made by mammals, is packed

with immunoglobulins and nothing provides your immune system with the power

it need like bovine colostrum. See www.groups.msn.com/Hepatitis Chelp/colostrum.msnw

for more information on colostrum.

Sixth, during my recovery from HCV I used Ravensara essential

oil to kill virus. Ravensara is the most powerful Natural anti-viral substance

you can get, and the only thing which will not alter the balance of your

system, or harm any other cell in the body while killing virus. It is completely safe, and effective. Eventually one can create an environment where no virus can live. But initially, the Active H- along with the Pure Synergy are detoxifying your cells, flushing virus from your tissues back into the blood stream. I used the ravensara to hit the virus head on, and consider it vital especially during the initial detoxification.

All together there are 8 supplements we have found sufficient

to effectively create and maintain balanced bioterrain, while providing your

body with everything it needs to heal. I am often asked what can be eliminated,

to save money. But if we are to address the entire bioterrain, which we

must do in order to create an environment inhospitable to pathogens, then

every element of this protocol is essential. No one thing can be used to

achieve recovery, and no one thing can be left out and still allow complete

recovery.

Every malady in the human body stems from malnutrition and

dehydration. When the bioterrain is corrected, brought into balanced, fully

nourished and hydrated, every condition created by imbalance and malnutrition

and dehydration is eliminated as well.

The human body is designed to heal itself provided the proper

nutritional tools for the job. In my opinion, it has no choice but to heal

if it is getting the right stuff. If it is not healing and becoming more

resistant to disease, something is missing, it is not getting the right stuff.

Your body needs a wide array of nutrients…and the life restored

to them, that’s all. You don’t need the latest wonder drug, or exotic mojo,

or extracts of body parts. Just the right stuff, in the right amounts.

Its that simple. And it should be.

thecelestialspirit wrote:

cute moon....way to go, Jeannine!...I'm

sick of watching people bash Jeff and Jeannine when I have personal experience

with them, and know they are on the up and up.....At my own request, they

have taught me about a nutritional program which has helped me achieve a

balance in my biochemistry; improving my health quite a bit in the last

few months....Not to mention recommending products which I have bought independently

over the internet, NOT from either Jeff nor Jeannine. If I find out they

can set up a bulk order for a number of us, we save ourselves some money.

I have never witnessed personal solicitation when it comes to either Jeff

or Jeannine, on this site or any other, so please stop accusing them of

something for which they are not guilty. Thanks. sincerely, Satya

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Jeanine London