Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 hi yall reading these posts makes me think i myself cant allow my hubby to keep up with melissas meds knows which she has to take but i try to make sure i am on her schedule i know its hard but when i allow melissa to go with my sisters they are instructed on her times and she helps when she needs them i carry a pill box in my purse and it has all the meds labeled and dose and the dosage also i wrote on the box was her name and her dr name and phone number along with allergys to meds and what she has even i know my sisters cant keep up with medical history and i feel safer doing that you want to let the child feel big but also protect them to Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Actually disease, etc. is a by-product of sin. If Adam would not have committed the first sin than we wouldn't live with its by-products. CW -- RE: I'm so Angry > > I don't understand your reference to these people being Christians. What > does that have to do with anything? > > Roni -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 There is no historical evidence for Jesus, but there is historical evidence for several people for whom Jesus () is an amalgam. The New Testament texts are inconsistent, contradictory, and written well after the death of the the people that are their claimed authors and find their roots back upwards of 200 years BCE in the Qumran community and the sacraments of Mithraism. It was syncretism that created extensive varieties of what today are known as Christian group but they were mixed, varied, and extensive with a wide range of very different belief systems. (Sacraments - eating the flesh and blood of gods - are pagan rituals and Christians are it's children.) Like the old testament, which was redacted and constructed several hundred years BCE and mixes the Elohist, Yahwist, Deuteronomist and other mythological sources from different peoples. The biblical anachronisms are extensive and the archaeological digs demonstrate that not only was paganism and plural god worship the norm, it is found in every dig site. Documentary hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis As to myth creation, my roots are in Mormonism, a claimed restoration of original Christianity, and the " myths " of its founder, his talks with god, and his present divinity have grown extensively in a mere 150 year time frame. Imagine how fast myths can grow when word of mouth is the primary means of communication and most people cannot read! Roni is exactingly correct. Steve Crystal wrote: > Consider this: Would it be possible for someone today, perhaps your > children or grandchildren, write about you 50 years from now? The reason we > know history is because people pass it down from generation to generation. > This doesn't mean what the writers of the old testament is false does it? > -- Re: I'm so Angry > > According to scripture what were the last words Christ said before he > died upon the cross, which atoned for all the sins of all the true > believers now and forever? > > -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 wrote: > That's one way to spin it, but it ignores a few facts. First AFAIK Mark > did not address the subject; it was Luke, Mathew and . And of those > three there's not the slightest agreement as to what were the last words > of Jesus; as a matter of fact they are in complete and total > disagreement. Rather strange for the " true word of God " to so > completely contradict itself about what for Christians has to be the > most important single event in the lifespan of the Universe: The death > of Christ upon the cross, which atoned for all the sins of all the > millions who keep the faith. Completely contradictory statements may > give a " balanced story " but they are lies, not truth. If one person > claims that at creation God said, " Let there be light " and another says > the statement was, " Let there be beer " in reference to the same > statement then someone is lying. Maybe it was Lite beer? <grin> > To put it bluntly we know Mark isn't lying about it; but we know at > least two of the other three are. About the best you can say is they > were just repeating old wives' tales or tavern talk passed down through > perhaps generations. > . -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Crystal wrote: > , I wish I were a Bible scholar! I wish you were though! I do not > claim to know every Greek and Hebrew word of the Bible. I also do not claim > that God isn't vengeful. However I'd be pretty pissed if the people I > created and set free a number of times would still turn and worship other > gods. His anger is righteous! Anger is an emotion that occurs when life doesn't go the way you want it to because it is not fully or even mostly under your control; the more mature one is, the less likely anger is to occur until finally one realizes that anger is a lack of control. An emotional god who's emotions drive his actions because life doesn't go the way he wants it to is no god at all, it's an anthropomorphism. A god who is omniscience and knows all things and before which all time is present simultaneously cannot suddenly get angry because at no time does he suddenly get information and see things happen that he didn't already know and see. God as defined CANNOT experience and has less ability to react to new situations than a rock. The definition of God given in Christianity generally, is undesirable to any person because they would be locked in an eternal existence of no experience, no change, no love, no joy, no pleasure, no existence, just eternal unchanging perfection in which there would be NO HOPE of anything better, different, or new. Bah humbug. At least the Pagans had gods that theoretically had the joy of living, loving, feasting, experiencing. > Just because the accounts of the gospel are > different doesn't make them contradictory. And yet, they are full of contradictions, extensively. To refuse to see these contradictions is to refuse to see that the earth is round. > This is just what you choose to > pick on. is the earliest account of Jesus and therefore the most > accurate. I still stand firm that the Bible never contradicts itself. How can parts of the what you claim are the words of your gods be more accurate than other parts? What errors pray tell are in , Luke, and ? There are lots of good scholarship. Here's some: Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them) http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interrupted-Revealing-Hidden-Contradictions/dp/00611\ 73932/ref=pd_sim_b_4 Who Wrote the Bible? http://www.amazon.com/Wrote-Bible--Elliott-Friedman/dp/0060630353/ref=pd_\ sim_b_2 The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient/dp/0684869136/\ ref=pd_sim_b_3 The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology And The Myth Of Israel http://www.amazon.com/Mythic-Past-Biblical-Archaeology-Israel/dp/0465006493/ref=\ pd_sim_b_9 The Myth Of Nazareth: The Invented Town Of Jesus http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Nazareth-Invented-Town-Jesus/dp/1578840031/ref=sr_1_9\ 0?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1255565968 & sr=1-90 Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Christianities-Battles-Scripture-Faiths/dp/0195182499\ /ref=pd_sim_b_13 101 Myths of the Bible: How Ancient Scribes Invented Biblical History http://www.amazon.com/101-Myths-Bible-Invented-Biblical/dp/1570718423/ref=pd_sim\ _b_8 The evidence against religious dogma and myths is so extensive both historical, archaeological, philosophical, and scientific that any person who goes on a quest for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth will find that the myths and dogma that blind them will gradually fall away. Steve > -- Re: I'm so Angry >> >> According to scripture what were the last words Christ said before he >> died upon the cross, which atoned for all the sins of all the true >> believers now and forever? >> >> -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 So the roughly 50 million humans alive in 10,000 BCE were perfect and without sin until Adam came along 4000 years later in 6000 BCE and added fruit to his diet? If God was perfect, he could have created a perfect creation. Since your think your God is perfect, then Sin, Evil, and Disease are exactly what he created, no more, no less. God loves Evil or he wouldn't have created it. This is no getting over the gross errors in all variants of Christian theology. We can play on your merry-go-round as long as you want but you won't get anywhere until you get off. Steve Crystal wrote: > Actually disease, etc. is a by-product of sin. If Adam would not have > committed the first sin than we wouldn't live with its by-products. > CW > > -- Re: I'm so Angry > > And the gods create and distribute diseases, genetic defects, pain, > suffering, " acts of god " , etc. > > It seems " fate " is the ultimate god. As the saying goes " Against fate, > even the gods contend in vain! " > > Hail to the Sun god, > O what a fun god, > Ra, Ra, Ra! > > (Ra is a sun god - the sun is needed for vitamin D production which > prevents a lot of diseases). > > Steve > > Crystal wrote: >> Healing isn't unusual in my world : ) I suppose God can heal anyone He >> wants to. >> CW > -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It means that there are probably many innnacuracies and/or things that didn't happen or happened differently. Have you ever played the game of " Telephone " at a party? If you have then you know how innacurate passed on verbal information can be, even though everyone is trying to pass the information on accurately. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> Subject: Re: Re: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 11:30 PM I know the accounts of the gospels vary. Luke (who was a doctor) gave a different account of Christ's last words than Mark did. So the agony Christ faced was told by different people from their viewpoint which gives a more balanced story. The better question is how can all of these different people write about the same man who has been historically proven as much as any other biblical figure, be denied today like he never lived? People walked among him and wrote his about his life. Those people saw different things as we all do when we meet and become friends with someone. -- Re: I'm so Angry According to scripture what were the last words Christ said before he died upon the cross, which atoned for all the sins of all the true believers now and forever? .. .. > > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@... > <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry> > sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1> > > > Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 pm (PDT) > > > > According to scripture (Isaiah 53:5) because Christ was beaten we are able > to receive healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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