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Hi bobluhrs,

Thas what I was thniknig if its a modality to get some good fast results in some

way then then it may be bettre than dying. Let us know how it works.

Take care,

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> Hold the guns, I'm only suggesting it as a last ditch maneuver for

> those with a stubborn condition or life threat that it might help.

> Certainly not a long-term approach for " health " etc. And I'm not

> advising anyone do it, being a layman.

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Aspirin

~ most or all of you have read this but it is a good reminder.  I had not heard

the part about not lying down. 

 

I have never heard the part about the pain on the CHIN! That is new to me!

 

 

save lives ...

It is important to always have ASPIRIN in the home!!!

 

Why have Aspirin by your bedside ?

 

ABOUT HEART ATTACKS

There are other symptoms of an heart attack besides the pain on the left arm.

 

One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as nausea and

lots of sweating, however these symptoms may also occur less frequently.

 

 

NOTE : There may be no pain in the chest during an heart attack.

 

The majority of people (about 60%) who had an heart attack during their sleep,

did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your

deep sleep.

 

 

If that happens,  IMMEDIATELY DISSOLVE TWO ASPIRINS IN YOUR MOUTH and swallow

them with a bit of water.

 

 

Afterwards, phone a neighbour or a family member who lives very close by and

state " HEART ATTACK!!! " and that you have taken 2 ASPIRINS

Take a seat on a chair or sofa and wait for their arrival and ...

 

DO NOT LIE DOWN !!!

 

A Cardiologist has stated that, if each person, after receiving this e-mail,

sends it to 10 people, probably a life can be saved!

 

I have already shared the information!!! What about you? Foward this message :

IT MAY SAVE LIVES !!! !!!

 

Roni

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isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

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Yes, there are pros and cons to low dose aspirins, and it now appears

none of us should take it without our doc's knowledge and permission.

Were I you, I'd do what my doc says. I've not heard of people in your

situation being given that advice, but that doesn't prove a thing.

Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:54:40 AM, you wrote:

> i read with interest the articles on low dose aspirin. what i didnt

> see though was any reference to people with chronic conditions that

> have heart risks -- such as diabetics. my dr has recommended that

> even tho my heart appeared to be healthy and my cholesterol was ok, i

> should be on aspirin and a statin -- to minimize the already greater

> risk of heart issues. has anyone seen anything about that? the

> article talked about " otherwise healthy people. "

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<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Aspirin

 Just a friendly reminder - even if you already know!

 Mayo Clinic - Aspirin is not a joke!

 Dr. Virend Somers, a cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic who is lead author of

the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of the Journal of the American College of

Cardiology.

 Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and noon, Somers

said.

 Having one during the  night, when the heart should be most at rest, means that

something unusual happened.  Somers and his colleagues have been working for a

decade to show that sleep apnea is to blame.

 1.   If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at night. The

reason: aspirin has a 24-hour " half-life " ; therefore, if most heart attacks

happen in the wee hours of the morning, the aspirin would be strongest in your

system.

 2.  FYI, aspirin lasts a really long time in your medicine chest for years,

(when it gets old, it smells like vinegar). Please read on.

 Something that we can do to help ourselves - nice to know.

 Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue. They work

much faster than the tablets.

 Why keep aspirin by your bedside? It's about Heart Attacks: There are other

symptoms of an heart attack besides the pain on the left arm. One must also be

aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well  as nausea and lots of sweating,

however these symptoms  may also occur less frequently. Note:  There may be NO

pain in the chest during a heart attack.

 The majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their sleep,

did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your

deep sleep.

 If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth and swallow

them with a bit of water.

 Afterwards:

 - call  911

 - phone a neighbor or a family  member who lives very close by

 - say " heart attack! "

 - say that you have taken 2 aspirins.

 - take a  seat on a chair or sofa near the  front door, and wait for their

arrival and...

 - DO NOT lie down!

 A Cardiologist has stated that,  if each person, after receiving this e-mail,

sends it to 10 people, probably one life can be saved!

 I have already shared the information - - will you?

 Do forward this message; it may  save lives!

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Roni,

Did this really come from the Mayo clinic?

You quoted:

> ... Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and

> noon, Somers said....

>

> 1. If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at

> night. The reason: aspirin has a 24-hour " half-life " ; therefore, if most

> heart attacks happen in the wee hours of the morning, the aspirin would

> be strongest in your system....

I questioned, because this is contradictory. He just said (correctly)

that most heart attacks occur between 6 a.m. and noon. This is why the

usual recommendation is to take the routine baby aspirin first thing in

the morning.

The biological half-life of aspirin is 3.5 to 4.5 hours, NOT 24 hours,

which is why the directions on the bottle say to take it every four

hours for headache. The effect on blood platelets, prostaglandins, and

inflammation is much more longer lasting, which is why you need to take

it daily. It is not that the effect only lasts 24 hours, it is that you

need a regular maintenance dose (81 mg per day) to get the protection.

It builds up, like taking Synthroid.

In other words, the low dose protection does not really depend on time

of day you take it. The larger dose that you might take during a heart

attack would benefit from a rapidly absorbed powder version, but this

would not be good for more routine use, since it would tear up your

stomach. In fact, for the daily 81 mg, they recommend using a coated

version to slow absorption.

I actually take more than 81 mg per day, since aspirin has been

associated with a number of other benefits, including reducing

intestinal cancer and cataracts. However, aspirin also can change

thyroid levels. It lowers the totals and frees, but it also lowers TSH.

Evidently, ibuprofen, naproxen, and indomethacin (also NSAIDS) do NOT

have any effect on thyroid levels. You might want to keep that in might

for your next blood draw.

Chuck

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I've actually been looking but could not find anything from Mayo as to the

timing of aspirin. However, I did find the following.

 

http://www.lifeclinic.com/fullpage.aspx?prid=507206 & type=1

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: ChuckB <gumboyaya@...>

Subject: Re: Fw: Aspirin

hypothyroidism

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:54 PM

Roni,

Did this really come from the Mayo clinic?

You quoted:

> ... Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and

> noon, Somers said....

>

>   1.   If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at

> night. The reason: aspirin has a 24-hour " half-life " ; therefore, if most

> heart attacks happen in the wee hours of the morning, the aspirin would

> be strongest in your system....

I questioned, because this is contradictory. He just said (correctly)

that most heart attacks occur between 6 a.m. and noon. This is why the

usual recommendation is to take the routine baby aspirin first thing in

the morning.

The biological half-life of aspirin is 3.5 to 4.5 hours, NOT 24 hours,

which is why the directions on the bottle say to take it every four

hours for headache. The effect on blood platelets, prostaglandins, and

inflammation is much more longer lasting, which is why you need to take

it daily. It is not that the effect only lasts 24 hours, it is that you

need a regular maintenance dose (81 mg per day) to get the protection.

It builds up, like taking Synthroid.

In other words, the low dose protection does not really depend on time

of day you take it. The larger dose that you might take during a heart

attack would benefit from a rapidly absorbed powder version, but this

would not be good for more routine use, since it would tear up your

stomach. In fact, for the daily 81 mg, they recommend using a coated

version to slow absorption.

I actually take more than 81 mg per day, since aspirin has been

associated with a number of other benefits, including reducing

intestinal cancer and cataracts. However, aspirin also can change

thyroid levels. It lowers the totals and frees, but it also lowers TSH.

Evidently, ibuprofen, naproxen, and indomethacin (also NSAIDS) do NOT

have any effect on thyroid levels. You might want to keep that in might

for your next blood draw.

Chuck

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http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/aspirin.asp

This is the third or fourth time this email has come through my inbox

in the last 3 or 4 months.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM, ChuckB <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

> On 2/7/2011 12:44 AM, Roni Molin wrote:

>> I've actually been looking but could not find anything from Mayo as to

>> the timing of aspirin. However, I did find the following.

>>

>> http://www.lifeclinic.com/fullpage.aspx?prid=507206 & type=1

>

> Interesting effect. That would make it worth trying the change in schedule.

>

> Chucki

>

>

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I was put on aspirin due to a heart arrhythmia occurrence but instead I take

Nattokinase which thins the bloods but will not eat your stomach lining like

aspirin does. I do think however its wise to keep chewable baby aspirin handy in

case of an obvious heart attack etc in which case one can put 4 under the

tongue. brit

>

> http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/aspirin.asp

>

> This is the third or fourth time this email has come through my inbox

> in the last 3 or 4 months.

>

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