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....you took the words out of my mouth. I was going to respond

about quinine and how I liked it best with gin and a lime wedge...:)

Quinine is often used for treating nighttime leg cramps...... hence I

suppose that may be why Anita's doc recommended it, but leg cramps and

restless leg syndrome are 2 different conditions. To much quinine and

prolonged use of it (3 yrs.?) can cause serious side

effects...cinchonism..(tinitis and/or impaired hearing, vision damage,

chronic headaches and more.) Extremely large amounts or overdosing can

cause neurological damage, coma and death.

Of course if you mix it with gin maybe you wouldn't care.

I hope all goes well when they pluck out your gall bladder. Keep us

informed from your lurking nest... you lurkers scare the bejezzus out of

me when you " jump in " .

like that..

love jerry

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Hi all;

I have been a lurker here for quite some time, and am jumping in on the

issue of quinine. It is also an ingredient in tonic water, maybe a

glass of that on ice minus the gin will keep another pill at bay.

I have PBC x 7 years and am beginning to wonder if perhaps I may also

be facing AIH as I certainly to experience flareups of a liver nature

that put me down for a few months at a time. I wonder if there are

any out there with AIH and type 1 diabetes and if so do you take the

steroids or stay away from them because of the diabetes???

I have to have my gallbladder removed due to a very large stone in the

bile duct neck and that is when a biopsy will be done to stage my PBC

and to look at what else is going on.

I am from British Columbia/Canada.

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What medicine do most of you take for fever? I have a sinus infection right now, but I have not had any fever. My GP says that the absence of fever is probably due to the 5mg of prednisone that I take daily for AIH, because prednisone tends to supress fever. I am not complaining, mind you! I normally run fever and get very ill with a sinus infection. But I couldn't help wondering what I should take if I did develop a fever. My GP had no suggestions because I have been told by my GI not to take Tylenol because of my liver disease, and I can't take aspirin because I take coumadin.

Thanks for any help,

Layne (dx Sept '02)

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Layne - I been told if I get a fever Im to go to doctor with being immosuppressed, also pred cuts inflammation but I havent heard of it suppressing fevers, it didnt with me. Personally, if I had a temperature I wouldnt want to get anything over the counter for it as the body is fighting some sort of infection and a dose of antibiotics may be required. Sorry I cant be of help.

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What medicine do most of you take for fever? I have a sinus infection right now, but I have not had any fever. My GP says that the absence of fever is probably due to the 5mg of prednisone that I take daily for AIH, because prednisone tends to supress fever. I am not complaining, mind you! I normally run fever and get very ill with a sinus infection. But I couldn't help wondering what I should take if I did develop a fever. My GP had no suggestions because I have been told by my GI not to take Tylenol because of my liver disease, and I can't take aspirin because I take coumadin.

Thanks for any help, Layne (dx Sept '02)

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I don't know if it helps, but I manage several cats with inflammitory

hepatitis/cholangiohepatis and diabeties.

In cats, I have learned prednisone may make diabeties worse, but when we

balance the insulin dosage to compensate for the gluconeogenic effects of

pred, the cats can be balanced on both meds. You may want to check with

your GE specialist about the balance, and how to monitor both.

Kat

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Layne,

I don't know if it will help, but I have chronis sinusitis, and what helps me is Sudafed 12 hour. I am one of the lucky who don't experience insomnia from it or excessive sleepyness. It will not treat an infection, or fever but it prevents the sinus fluid/debris from building up to an issue. Ask your GP about prevention/management vs post infxn tx and it might help mitigate the problem.

Kat

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