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you should make sure you are on enough of the right thyroid med for you. Then

you might need adrenal meds.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

your symptoms were very hypothyroid--air hunger.

Gracia

Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I began

having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully

working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan, but

didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my a

muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which took

the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing for

my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel

shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have a

sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to

diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body

when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ

damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas for

me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I had

the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a lot

the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just feel

like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular doc on

Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas would

be appreciated Thanks,

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That's exactly how I found out I was hypo; a trip to the ER. It

sounds just like your story. The membranes around my wind pipe had

swelled up and I couldn't breath if I lay down. At that time I had

bad sleep apnea too. It all went away once I got on synthroid. I

also lost 60 pounds after starting treatment.

You need to be seeing a good internist.

eddie

>

> Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I

began

> having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully

> working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan,

but

> didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my

a

> muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which

took

> the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing

for

> my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel

> shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have

a

> sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to

> diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body

> when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ

> damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas

for

> me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I

had

> the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a

lot

> the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just

feel

> like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular

doc on

> Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas

would

> be appreciated Thanks,

>

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Hi ,

It would help a lot if you would post what thyroid medicine you are

on , what dose of medicine and what tests you've had and what the

results are on the tests.

Bev

> Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I

began

> having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully

> working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan,

but

> didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my

a

> muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which

took

> the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing

for

> my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel

> shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have

a

> sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to

> diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body

> when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ

> damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas

for

> me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I

had

> the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a

lot

> the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just

feel

> like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular

doc on

> Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas

would

> be appreciated Thanks,

>

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Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning

and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal

range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent

medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months.

I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't

feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my

thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this

can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my

heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else!

Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that

it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being

treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks,

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

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Hi Gracia

This happened to me recently because I took some kelp (which is meant to help

thyroid and be harmless from the health food shop).

I had difficulty breathing which lasted for a few days but less severely as time

went on. I did nearly phone the hospital but luckily took some ventilin from my

son's inhaler.

It was very scary.

I did look this up on the net and found this can happen in some people. My

doctor had never heard of it but suggested taking piriton (allergy tablet -

hayfever etc.)

You need to check what you've been taking. I had to cancel an order of T-lyph

(bovine thyroid) which was mixed with kelp, and order thyroid without kelp.

Hope this helps,

Miranda

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HI ,

Yes, I have had the breathlessness. My doc. said she thought it was my

heart,,, but I said I don't think it is.. I think it's my thyroid... Well,

about this time I had gall bladder surgery and I have been doing alot better and

no breathlessness....weird,,,,,huh.....and some other symptoms I've had that

started right after I had surgery for adrenal tumor is now gone

too......hummmmmm... So, I'm thinking some of other peoples symptoms that they

might think are thyroid or adrenal they could be something not even thought of

yet....by the doc. or the patient....or anyone.. because whatever it is doesn't

have that symptoms normally..... I hope at least some of this makes sense...

Keep on researching and going to the doc. to have tests for anything,,, it

might come to light soon.

good luck

Bev

Alaniz <anadonalaniz@...> wrote:

Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in

the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in

the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no

recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6

months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really

don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of

my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this

can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my

heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else!

Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it

can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being

treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks,

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

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this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://www.drrind.com

Gracia

Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the

morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the

normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent

medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months.

I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't

feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my

thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can

cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as

it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone

else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a

symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If

you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks,

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

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Help!

I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal related and

just got the results....am I crazy or what?

Free T4 1.2

TSH 1.52

FSH 4.9

They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to the

regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying, heart

palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms....but I 'm afraid to even ask him

anyhing. Any suggestions???

Thanks so much and blessings!

Lori

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://www.drrind.com

Gracia

Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning

and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal

range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent

medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months.

I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't

feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my

thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can

cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as

it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone

else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a

symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If

you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks,

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

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Hi Lori,

Since you feel bad you should ask for a Free T3 test to see if anything is

going on there. I not familiar with the FSH test, I know what it is but don't

know where it should be on the scale. Other than that I would just emphized all

your symptoms and ask if he/she could please find out what is going on with

you... if the doc. says he wouldn't know where to start or basically blows you

off, it's time to look for another doc....

good luck

Bev

Lori Amundson <newme7777@...> wrote:

Help!

I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal related and

just got the results....am I crazy or what?

Free T4 1.2

TSH 1.52

FSH 4.9

They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to the

regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying, heart

palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms....but I 'm afraid to even ask him

anyhing. Any suggestions???

Thanks so much and blessings!

Lori

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://www.drrind.com

Gracia

Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning

and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal

range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent

medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months.

I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't

feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my

thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can

cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as

it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone

else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a

symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If

you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks,

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

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I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not

hypothyroidism??? And if you're not already on medication for

hypothyroidism the TSH is low.

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Help!

I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal

related and just got the results....am I crazy or what?

Free T4 1.2

TSH 1.52

FSH 4.9

They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to

the regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying,

heart palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms....

but I 'm afraid to even ask him anyhing. Any suggestions???

Thanks so much and blessings!

Lori

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What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what

is happening?

Gail

> >

> > I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not

> > hypothyroidism??? ...

>

> Palps occur almost immediately with hyperT, but they also can develop

> gradually with hypoT, if the condition is chronic. There are also

lots

> of other things that can cause them.

>

> Chuck

>

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Gail,

You wrote:

>

> What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what

> is happening?

It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to

make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic beat.

Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or

even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in

succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence but

rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the risk

of more dangerous arrhythmias.

Chuck

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I actually noticed a fluttering sensation at the base of my throat

first. Later I realized my heart rate had jumped 50% or more during the

palpitations. However, my palpitations are apparently caused by

congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. They are

controlled by medication prescribed by a heart specialist. I'm 65 and

have had an on again, off again rapid heartbeat as long as I can remember.

I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low

potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be

very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart

palpitations caused by the thyroid.

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gumbo482001 <gumbo482001>

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:49 pm (PST)

Gail,

You wrote:

>

> What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what

> is happening?

It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to

make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic beat.

Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or

even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in

succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence but

rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the risk

of more dangerous arrhythmias.

Chuck

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Thanks Chuck. As far as I am aware, I have never had that...whew!

Gail

> It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to

> make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic

beat.

> Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or

> even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in

> succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence

but

> rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the

risk

> of more dangerous arrhythmias.

>

> Chuck

>

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Actually, I had heart palps when I was hypo. I think you can have them

either way.

Edie

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I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not

hypothyroidism??? And if you're not already on medication for

hypothyroidism the TSH is low.

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,

You wrote:

> ... my palpitations are apparently caused by

> congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. ...

> I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low

> potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be

> very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart

> palpitations caused by the thyroid.

Not in the same way. Yours are probably PVCs (premature ventricular

contractions), which are the result of out of sequence electrical

signals that would be sensitive to potassium levels. The ventricle fires

and contracts first, instead of waiting for a relay signal from the

atrium. HypoT palpitations have the electrical signals in the right

sequence, just recurring too fast. The PVC has a greater likelihood of

accidentally triggering fibrillation, an inefficient quivering that can

be fatal if it continues.

Chuck

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Hi, Chuck. As always, you're a wealth of information. Much

appreciated. What you described sounds like what my doctor said, but

it's MOL Greek to me. He wanted to " burn out " the source of the extra

impulses, but when he told me there was a small but none zero

probability of death from the procedure I decided to forego it.

One of my nephew's had [i believe] the same problem, but stronger

symptoms than mine. He went into surgery to have the extra excitation

sites burned out but the surgeon found out that the sites he wanted to

remove were too close to critical sites that he definitely did not want

to remove, so the procedure was scrubbed. He does well on the medication.

I guess that at least means that those with hypo or hyper induced

palpitations don't need to be overly concerned with potassium levels;

while I have to be...

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gumbo482001 <gumbo482001>

Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:36 pm (PST)

,

You wrote:

> ... my palpitations are apparently caused by

> congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. ...

> I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low

> potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be

> very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart

> palpitations caused by the thyroid.

Not in the same way. Yours are probably PVCs (premature ventricular

contractions)

, which are the result of out of sequence electrical

signals that would be sensitive to potassium levels. The ventricle fires

and contracts first, instead of waiting for a relay signal from the

atrium. HypoT palpitations have the electrical signals in the right

sequence, just recurring too fast. The PVC has a greater likelihood of

accidentally triggering fibrillation, an inefficient quivering that can

be fatal if it continues.

Chuck

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,

You wrote:

>

> ... I guess that at least means that those with hypo or hyper induced

> palpitations don't need to be overly concerned with potassium levels;

> while I have to be...

Maybe. Potassium excursions can be risky for anyone, just more so for

someone with ongoing timing issues.

Chuck

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