Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 you should make sure you are on enough of the right thyroid med for you. Then you might need adrenal meds. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com your symptoms were very hypothyroid--air hunger. Gracia Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I began having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan, but didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my a muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which took the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing for my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have a sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas for me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I had the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a lot the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just feel like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular doc on Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas would be appreciated Thanks, ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 That's exactly how I found out I was hypo; a trip to the ER. It sounds just like your story. The membranes around my wind pipe had swelled up and I couldn't breath if I lay down. At that time I had bad sleep apnea too. It all went away once I got on synthroid. I also lost 60 pounds after starting treatment. You need to be seeing a good internist. eddie > > Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I began > having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully > working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan, but > didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my a > muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which took > the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing for > my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel > shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have a > sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to > diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body > when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ > damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas for > me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I had > the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a lot > the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just feel > like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular doc on > Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas would > be appreciated Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hi , It would help a lot if you would post what thyroid medicine you are on , what dose of medicine and what tests you've had and what the results are on the tests. Bev > Hi, I was laying down watching tv around 10:30 at night, when I began > having trouble breathing. It was like my lungs weren't fully > working. I ended up going to the hospital. They did a CAT Scan, but > didn't find any blood clots or anything. They ended up giving my a > muscle relaxant as they thought it might be stress-induced, which took > the edge of my fear of not being able to breathe, but did nothing for > my actual ability to breathe. I was sent home, but I still feel > shortness of breath, especially if a move around a little. I have a > sneaking suspicion this is thyroid related. They took awhile to > diagnose me as hypothyroid (I had no detectable thyroid in my body > when they diagnosed me), so I'm thinking I might have some organ > damage. Has anyone experienced anything similar or have any ideas for > me? I would GREATLY appreciate it. I was taking it easy when I had > the attack, but I did have a very busy week and was on my feet a lot > the days before the attack. I did not have chest pains, I just feel > like I can't get my breath. Very scary. I'm seeing my regular doc on > Monday but don't place a lot of faith in him. Any info or ideas would > be appreciated Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Thanks Gracia, I'll ask the doc about adrenal problems today when I go in. Actually, I think I will research it myself too! Gracia <circe@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 , Being under medicated can cause breathing problems. Particularly if you aren't getting enough T3 (Cytomel). _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hi Gracia This happened to me recently because I took some kelp (which is meant to help thyroid and be harmless from the health food shop). I had difficulty breathing which lasted for a few days but less severely as time went on. I did nearly phone the hospital but luckily took some ventilin from my son's inhaler. It was very scary. I did look this up on the net and found this can happen in some people. My doctor had never heard of it but suggested taking piriton (allergy tablet - hayfever etc.) You need to check what you've been taking. I had to cancel an order of T-lyph (bovine thyroid) which was mixed with kelp, and order thyroid without kelp. Hope this helps, Miranda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 HI , Yes, I have had the breathlessness. My doc. said she thought it was my heart,,, but I said I don't think it is.. I think it's my thyroid... Well, about this time I had gall bladder surgery and I have been doing alot better and no breathlessness....weird,,,,,huh.....and some other symptoms I've had that started right after I had surgery for adrenal tumor is now gone too......hummmmmm... So, I'm thinking some of other peoples symptoms that they might think are thyroid or adrenal they could be something not even thought of yet....by the doc. or the patient....or anyone.. because whatever it is doesn't have that symptoms normally..... I hope at least some of this makes sense... Keep on researching and going to the doc. to have tests for anything,,, it might come to light soon. good luck Bev Alaniz <anadonalaniz@...> wrote: Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://www.drrind.com Gracia Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Help! I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal related and just got the results....am I crazy or what? Free T4 1.2 TSH 1.52 FSH 4.9 They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to the regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying, heart palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms....but I 'm afraid to even ask him anyhing. Any suggestions??? Thanks so much and blessings! Lori Gracia <circe@...> wrote: this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://www.drrind.com Gracia Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hi Lori, Since you feel bad you should ask for a Free T3 test to see if anything is going on there. I not familiar with the FSH test, I know what it is but don't know where it should be on the scale. Other than that I would just emphized all your symptoms and ask if he/she could please find out what is going on with you... if the doc. says he wouldn't know where to start or basically blows you off, it's time to look for another doc.... good luck Bev Lori Amundson <newme7777@...> wrote: Help! I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal related and just got the results....am I crazy or what? Free T4 1.2 TSH 1.52 FSH 4.9 They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to the regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying, heart palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms....but I 'm afraid to even ask him anyhing. Any suggestions??? Thanks so much and blessings! Lori Gracia <circe@...> wrote: this is not a heart problem, this is low adrenal. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://www.drrind.com Gracia Hi Bev, I'm currently taking 125 mcg of synthroid and 20 mcg (10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon) of cytomel. My recent blood results are in the normal range, except for TSH (it has been low). However, I have had no recent medication change and my blood results are pretty consistent over last 6 months. I believe the TSH level is low due to cytomel repressing TSH. I really don't feel this is caused by too much thyroid meds, as I have no functioning of my thyroid left and if anything, I still feel under medicated. I wonder if this can cause it? What I am afraid of is that my hypothyroidism has damaged my heart, as it was left untreated for awhile or maybe I'm getting something else! Has anyone else experienced breathlessness with thyroid problems. I read that it can be a symptom, but it's weird I'm just developing it now, while I'm being treated. If you have any ideas Bev, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not hypothyroidism??? And if you're not already on medication for hypothyroidism the TSH is low. Re: Recent Scare/Trip to the ER <hypothyroidism/message/26246;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM2p0anJ\ mBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjYyNDYEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE2MzU5NDg1NA--> Posted by: " Lori Amundson " newme7777@... <mailto:newme7777@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Recent%20Scare%2FTrip%20to%20the%\ 20ER> newme7777 <newme7777> Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:53 pm (PST) Help! I went to my gyno because I thought my symptoms might be hormonal related and just got the results....am I crazy or what? Free T4 1.2 TSH 1.52 FSH 4.9 They said I was " normal " , but I don't feel that way! I am on my way to the regular doc because I am feeling soooo awful - achy, crabby, crying, heart palps, you know...all the hypo symptoms.... but I 'm afraid to even ask him anyhing. Any suggestions??? Thanks so much and blessings! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what is happening? Gail > > > > I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not > > hypothyroidism??? ... > > Palps occur almost immediately with hyperT, but they also can develop > gradually with hypoT, if the condition is chronic. There are also lots > of other things that can cause them. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Gail, You wrote: > > What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what > is happening? It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic beat. Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence but rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the risk of more dangerous arrhythmias. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I actually noticed a fluttering sensation at the base of my throat first. Later I realized my heart rate had jumped 50% or more during the palpitations. However, my palpitations are apparently caused by congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. They are controlled by medication prescribed by a heart specialist. I'm 65 and have had an on again, off again rapid heartbeat as long as I can remember. I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart palpitations caused by the thyroid. Re: Recent Scare/Trip to the ER <hypothyroidism/message/26251;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMTcyam9\ lBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjYyNTEEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE2MzY3NjQyMw--> Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@... <mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Recent%20Scare%2FTrip%20to%20the%20\ ER> gumbo482001 <gumbo482001> Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:49 pm (PST) Gail, You wrote: > > What exactly are heart palpitations? What does it feel like, and what > is happening? It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic beat. Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence but rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the risk of more dangerous arrhythmias. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks Chuck. As far as I am aware, I have never had that...whew! Gail > It feels as if your heart skips a beat (arrhythmia) and then tries to > make up for lost time, a thumping feeling also known as an ectopic beat. > Sometimes it is accompanied by slight breathlessness or dizziness, or > even more rarely, angina type pain. When many ectopic beats happen in > succession, it becomes sinus tachycardia, normal electrical sequence but > rapid heart beat. These are usually harmless, but they increase the risk > of more dangerous arrhythmias. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Actually, I had heart palps when I was hypo. I think you can have them either way. Edie _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:33 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Recent Scare/Trip to the ER I believe the heart palps are a symptom of hyperthyroidism, not hypothyroidism??? And if you're not already on medication for hypothyroidism the TSH is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 , You wrote: > ... my palpitations are apparently caused by > congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. ... > I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low > potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be > very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart > palpitations caused by the thyroid. Not in the same way. Yours are probably PVCs (premature ventricular contractions), which are the result of out of sequence electrical signals that would be sensitive to potassium levels. The ventricle fires and contracts first, instead of waiting for a relay signal from the atrium. HypoT palpitations have the electrical signals in the right sequence, just recurring too fast. The PVC has a greater likelihood of accidentally triggering fibrillation, an inefficient quivering that can be fatal if it continues. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hi, Chuck. As always, you're a wealth of information. Much appreciated. What you described sounds like what my doctor said, but it's MOL Greek to me. He wanted to " burn out " the source of the extra impulses, but when he told me there was a small but none zero probability of death from the procedure I decided to forego it. One of my nephew's had [i believe] the same problem, but stronger symptoms than mine. He went into surgery to have the extra excitation sites burned out but the surgeon found out that the sites he wanted to remove were too close to critical sites that he definitely did not want to remove, so the procedure was scrubbed. He does well on the medication. I guess that at least means that those with hypo or hyper induced palpitations don't need to be overly concerned with potassium levels; while I have to be... Re: Recent Scare/Trip to the ER <hypothyroidism/message/26256;_ylc=X3oDMTJxOG0ycXF\ xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjYyNTYEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE2Mzc2MzI0Mw--> Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@... <mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Recent%20Scare%2FTrip%20to%20the%20\ ER> gumbo482001 <gumbo482001> Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:36 pm (PST) , You wrote: > ... my palpitations are apparently caused by > congenital arrhythmia rather than a thyroid problem. ... > I believe that if you have any kind of arrhythmia then the danger of low > potassium is elevated. For example, heat stroke is more likely to be > very serious or fatal. I don't know if the same thing applies to heart > palpitations caused by the thyroid. Not in the same way. Yours are probably PVCs (premature ventricular contractions) , which are the result of out of sequence electrical signals that would be sensitive to potassium levels. The ventricle fires and contracts first, instead of waiting for a relay signal from the atrium. HypoT palpitations have the electrical signals in the right sequence, just recurring too fast. The PVC has a greater likelihood of accidentally triggering fibrillation, an inefficient quivering that can be fatal if it continues. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 , You wrote: > > ... I guess that at least means that those with hypo or hyper induced > palpitations don't need to be overly concerned with potassium levels; > while I have to be... Maybe. Potassium excursions can be risky for anyone, just more so for someone with ongoing timing issues. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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