Protein?

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Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the

protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is

the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet, lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This

morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with

lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie

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Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that.

So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those

vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look

and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet,

lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do

have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or

E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

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Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that.

So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those

vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look

and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet,

lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do

have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or

E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

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So, does anyone with Hep C need 1/2 gram of protein per pound, whether they have ever been on conventional treatment, or not? Sheena Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that. So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down

into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet.

Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant

kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston

<thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet, lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my

pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food,

but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life,

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unless you have ammonia problems, you need a decent amount of protein and IF YOU are on TX, you need a protein based diet , unless once again, if you have ammonia problems and if you do, your doc will have talked with you about that and the need to limit the amount of protein.. Sheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: So, does anyone with Hep C need 1/2 gram of protein per pound, whether they have ever been on conventional treatment, or not? Sheena Janet <doc_jade > wrote: Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount

of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that. So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to

re-wash those vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there

but I will look and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met

in person yet, lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose.

I do have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the

recall or E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. __________________________________________________

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OH Good Janet, ,, you scared me! lol,, good, small amounts of red meat are ok,, there actually are some of the b vitamins that you can only get from red meat,, so good,, but Im with you, I LOVE MY CHICKEN! Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that. So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena

<mom4possums2002 > wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2

ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to

less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best

rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet, lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the

results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this

but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Jackie

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My doc says get as much protein as possible. If your going to do whey protein make sure its a whey protein isolate,Isolate being the key word. Your body absorbs it better. Peace out, Steveelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: It's my opinion that when on treatment that much protein is needed cause by week 14 taste perversion becomes a problem . Meat is usually the first thing that starts to taste really bad and once you take

meat from the diet protein levels drop which I think can harm response rates . On treatment malnutrition is bad so unless a person has ammonia issues then protein is needed . Then again this is my personal opinion . Re: Protein? So, does anyone with Hep C need 1/2 gram of protein

per pound, whether they have ever been on conventional treatment, or not? Sheena Janet <doc_jade > wrote: Oh no Jackie you got me wrong. I eat 2 oz. of red meat per meal that has meat in it. I am sorry I didn't make that clearer. I love my protein, I just get it from alot of different sources. I love beans!!!!!! I know they make you have gas. But I simply love beans and cornbread. (It is a southern thing). Hee Hee I get alot of protein from whey protein also. I drink protein

shakes when I don't feel like eating. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. I just try to limit the amount of red meat I eat, and go for the other types of meat such as chicken, turkey,fish and so forth. Now I can chow on some chicken. I love chicken in any form or fashion. Love you too and thank you for pointing out that. I was in a bipolar head when typing that. So that mean my fingers were doing one thing and my mind was zooming out in space some where. LOL Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Is this both on and OFF treatment? I had thought when I read about

it it was for those on treatment, but now I am thinking you meant for ALL? Is Whey Protein acceptable? Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Janet,,, you know I love ya but Protein is a VERY IMPORTANT food item, especially WITH hep c,, unless one has ammonia problems,, one needs at least half a gram of pro for every pound of weight,, you need the protein so that your liver can break the pro down into glutathione which is one of the most important enzymes in the liver.. 2 ounces of pro a day is NOT enough! Now Im gonna worry about you,, and now that you have diabetes, you need more protein NOW ,, as pro does NOT break down into sugar that requires insulin.... the rest of what you said is good! love you janet! jaxJanet <doc_jade > wrote: Good questions About the vitamins- I don't take OTC vitamins as many of them contain iron with us heppers that is a NO NO. So I try my bestest as my kids say to get all my vitamins through what I eat. Now it sounds as if right now you are on the right track as far as eating a balanced diet. That is the important thing is eat a good balanced diet. Like you said very little red meat. I try to if I eat red meat to limit to less than 2 oz Tylenol is okay as long as you stick to the recommended dosage. Like you I eat very little salt, but have found other herbs and spices to make up the difference in

taste. On the e-coli scare well here is a little known fact about that scare, if people had bothered to re-wash those vegetables when they got home then they would not have had that problem. I alway re wash my veggies in plenty of running water. Even those veggies that they say are ready to serve. (okay sounding a little paranoid here. but I trust no one to be as clean as I am in my kitchen and my cooking.) that is why I rarely go out. Because for one I am a fantastic cook. LOL Number 2 - I have seen alot of resturant kitchens. Not a pretty sight. But the best rule of thumb is follow the healthy food groups guide and you should be doing what is right for your body. I do have a diet in the file section of this group if you care to look for it. Hmmm don't know about recipe

files, but I do have recipes in the files for Non-alcoholic drinks. I don't have all of them in there but I will look and see . I know every once in a while we will get a wild hair and post recipes through the group through email. Cause we are a silly bunch of people that love to eat. *big cheesy grin* I think that is all the answers to your email for today. But keep up the good work and ask questions. Love Janet thealliston <thealliston > wrote: I do appreciate your warm welcome and the extended *hugs* I received in here lately. Each of you who replied made me feel that I am not alone, nor an outcast to

say the least. I am so glad that there is such a caring group, both knowledgable and supportive...(and we haven't even met in person yet, lol - I am trying to be strong from the outside, trying to control my emotions as much as humanly possible or womanly possible, lol, and didn't want my husband to worry more of it (who still married me even after being diagnosed with HepC) let alone worrying my young children too, so having some type of communication especially from the one who can actually relate is certainly priceless to say the least. This morning they did a *liver* ultrasound of my pancreas, gall bladder, liver, kidney. And as you know, have to wait for the results so will let you know of their findings perhaps next week. Unsure why such test knowing my current condition, but I figured it wouldn't hurt me in fact it may help. I guess they need to know if my abdominal pain I have been experiencing

most of this week, is not gall bladder related, kidney issues and such - trying to rule out some other complications I suppose. I do have more questions: What vitamins or supplements would you recommend to take? I've read that even some vitamins is damaging to the liver (any meds, really affect our liver) but I am taking Vit. B complex and wondering if I need to stop this? How about OTC like Tylenol ingesting 500 mg as needed? What diet plan would you recommend? I know I have to limit (or even none at all) sodium intake but substitute salt with lemon juice to add flavor to the food, but do you also agree with consuming more sugar than ever? I was told of this but really unsure because that would affect my glucose level to say the least - herego, I may develop diabetes or if not already, aggravate it even more. I have switch to eating more raw foods - veggies, more fish, less red meat, more fruits

and try to purchase certified organic ood as much as possible. I've heard that this is good although expensive, but with all the recall or E.Coli virus, etc. that we have been hearing from the media lately, I am leary too. If we have recipe files do let me know; I haven't searched in our group site yet, so unsure if we have this or not already or if you have sites that you recommend, I appreciate it -:)Warm Regards, Alliston Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Jackie Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. __________________________________________________

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Today I had maybe half a roasted chicken.. Lots of fats. I ate the

skin.. Is the skin bad to eat? especially if there is seasoning on

there.. (lots of it being salt..)

I have to confess its grocery store bought pre cooked chicken. You

know those small ones Bee that you can get at Safeway/Sobeys. For the

most part we eat wild salmon and a cow that we went halfers on with my

sister and her husband. (hormone/steroid free/ fathers worker friend

has a small farm)

So I imagine it cannot be too bad once in a while to eat unorganic

meats. We also buy a whole lamb from the farmer. So we are healthy..

What you think about eating all that chicken though? I think I am

going to have a can of tuna as well. Is that too much store bought

meat for one day? Just 2 meals.. Lots of veggies with them though..

and olive oil. Usually butter as well.

Thanks

Marko

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> Today I had maybe half a roasted chicken.. Lots of fats. I ate the

> skin.. Is the skin bad to eat? especially if there is seasoning on

> there.. (lots of it being salt..)

I'm not Bee, but I personally stay away from those store-bought chickens.

The fact of the matter is, I can make something that tastes 10 times

better, is a WHOLE lot healthier, is cheaper, and I know what's in it.

We made roasted chicken here the other night, as a matter of fact.

I made a rub of sea salt, black pepper, thyme, crushed garlic, onion, and

some Italian-type herbs (like oregano and basil, etc.) I rubbed them on my

chickens and let them rest for about an hour and a half. We cooked ours

on the grill at about 210 'til the internal temp of the chickens was 165,

but I've also been known to do them in the oven. You just put them on a

baking rack, breast side down, and you roast them at 500 for 15 minutes

and then turn it down to 300 for about 45 minutes (or to an internal temp

of 165ish.) You don't cut them immediately, so there's some hold-over

cooking, but by cooking them this way, you get crispy skin and tender,

juicy meat.

I LOVE chicken skin, and I don't reallyt hink there's a problem with

eating it if you know what you're eating. In other words, if you know

EXACTLY what the seasoning is and where the chicken came from, then I

personally don't see a problem with it. Fitday even has chicken skin as a

food.

Just remember that if you eat more protein than your body needs, 50% of

the excess will be converted to glucose, and that glucose will feed

candida. Focus on those great fats though. You'll feel so much better

for it.

in IN

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I am glad to hear this. Since starting to use fit day we added an

extra meal each day (we were eating twice- now three times). Before I

was getting too little protein but now I trend to going over by 5-10g.

I was in a real quandry as to whether I should get too little or too

much! Very confusing sometimes...

http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 8 weeks 6 days

> > Just remember that if you eat more protein than your body needs,

50%

> of the excess will be converted to glucose, and that glucose will

feed

> candida.

> ==>That isn't correct my dear. Excess protein " can " be used by the

> body to fulfill glucose requirements for blood sugar, etc. purposes,