Re: Re: Digest Number 2668

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> From: karen smith <valantine.smith@...>

> Date: Sun 29/Dec/2002 16:27 GMT

> liver problems

> Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

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> Hi all;

>

> I have been a lurker here for quite some time, and am jumping in on the

> issue of quinine. It is also an ingredient in tonic water, maybe a

> glass of that on ice minus the gin will keep another pill at bay.

>

> I have PBC x 7 years and am beginning to wonder if perhaps I may also

> be facing AIH as I certainly to experience flareups of a liver nature

> that put me down for a few months at a time. I wonder if there are

> any out there with AIH and type 1 diabetes and if so do you take the

> steroids or stay away from them because of the diabetes???

>

> I have to have my gallbladder removed due to a very large stone in the

> bile duct neck and that is when a biopsy will be done to stage my PBC

> and to look at what else is going on.

>

> I am from British Columbia/Canada.

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> >Subject: [ ] Digest Number 2668

> >Date: Sat, DecNov 283020022002307:25 PM

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> From: gefox@...

> Date: Sun 29/Dec/2002 06:22 GMT

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> Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

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> ....you took the words out of my mouth. I was going to respond

> about quinine and how I liked it best with gin and a lime wedge...

> Quinine is often used for treating nighttime leg cramps...... hence I

> suppose that may be why Anita's doc recommended it, but leg cramps and

> restless leg syndrome are 2 different conditions. To much quinine and

> prolonged use of it (3 yrs.?) can cause serious side

> effects...cinchonism..(tinitis and/or impaired hearing, vision damage,

> chronic headaches and more.) Extremely large amounts or overdosing can

> cause neurological damage, coma and death.

> Of course if you mix it with gin maybe you wouldn't care.

> I hope all goes well when they pluck out your gall bladder. Keep us

> informed from your lurking nest... you lurkers scare the bejezzus out of

> me when you " jump in " .

> like that..

>

> love jerry

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anita.... I sent the group 2 sites concerning restless leg syndome...

both of which give various treatments for it.... so maybe different docs

have diffeent solutions?

love jerry

[Guest guest]

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> From: gefox@...

> Date: Sun 29/Dec/2002 18:02 GMT

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> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

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> Anita.... I sent the group 2 sites concerning restless leg syndome...

> both of which give various treatments for it.... so maybe different docs

> have diffeent solutions?

>

> love jerry

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do I mean Ritalin?

[Guest guest]

Yes.

Re: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

> Do I mean Ritalin?

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>

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[Guest guest]

Jerry,

Thank you for the websites, I have dealt with this disease (disability) for

30 years, and still search for a " cure " so I can sleep without medications,

or relapses.

Kat

Re: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

> Anita.... I sent the group 2 sites concerning restless leg syndome...

> both of which give various treatments for it.... so maybe different docs

> have diffeent solutions?

>

> love jerry

>

>

>

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> From: gefox@...

> Date: Sun 29/Dec/2002 22:24 GMT

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> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

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> Anita.....doesn't she go to school? Have her checked for ADD....they can

> medicate that (hell I guess they can medicate anything) usually with

> Ridalin...

> If that doesn't work soundproof a closet and lock her in it while you

> nap.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Anita....you're right about the meds I don't trust them and especially

in 8 yr. old children. The split is probably a big reason for her

actions and maybe she'll calm down when she becomes more assured that

you both still love her. I don't envy you at all. you have much on your

plate. I shall pray for you and ask for peace and grace. Do the best

you can and make sure you take care of yourself. (btw.... the sound

proof closet was a joke...I hope you know.... besides it didn't work

when I tried it )

love jerry

[Guest guest]

Anita....you're right about the meds I don't trust them and especially

in 8 yr. old children. The split is probably a big reason for her

actions and maybe she'll calm down when she becomes more assured that

you both still love her. I don't envy you at all. you have much on your

plate. I shall pray for you and ask for peace and grace. Do the best

you can and make sure you take care of yourself. (btw.... the sound

proof closet was a joke...I hope you know.... besides it didn't work

when I tried it )

love jerry

[Guest guest]

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> From: gefox@...

> Date: Mon 30/Dec/2002 11:21 GMT

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> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Digest Number 2668

>

> Anita....you're right about the meds I don't trust them and especially

> in 8 yr. old children. The split is probably a big reason for her

> actions and maybe she'll calm down when she becomes more assured that

> you both still love her. I don't envy you at all. you have much on your

> plate. I shall pray for you and ask for peace and grace. Do the best

> you can and make sure you take care of yourself. (btw.... the sound

> proof closet was a joke...I hope you know.... besides it didn't work

> when I tried it )

>

> love jerry

>

>

>