PMS

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In a message dated 12/20/99 5:32:55 AM, onelist writes:

<< From: berry@...

Subject: PMS/Depression

Hi all, (women, anyway)

Have any of you noticed a dramatic difference in PMS/depression symptoms

since CFS? And especially as the days get darker and colder (up here in New

England)? >>

I had a dramatic increase in PMS symptoms when I got sick eight years ago -

terrible migraines, nausea, fevers for the week before my period, etc.

Actually, an acupuncturist/herbalist really helped with this particular

symptom (acupuncture helped me very selectively though). I think what mainly

helped was the wild yam she was giving me, which evened out my hormone levels

a bit. But you should try to get someone to give you proper instructions on

how to take this. I can't remember exactly because it was so long ago. It

did make a big difference.

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At 10:56 AM 4/21/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Can someone suggest EO's for counteracting PMS? Also, what toiletries might

>one use for these EO's? Thoughts that come to my mind is bath salts, bath

>oils,

the 'basics' are Clary Sage and Geranium... what get's added to that

really depends on what form of pms... because it can manifest so

differently.

a bath oil and/or body oil would be the best/most useful application.

and you know you can't make any 'medical claims' on it....

side note... one of my friends reports that if she starts taking evening

primrose oil (capsules) when she starts even thinking about being pms'y...

NO symptoms. (no I don't know how much she takes...) but she swears it's

a 'wonder drug'

(so does her hubby!)

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My sister was telling me the very same thing recently. I think I'm going to

try it next time.

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From: Marge <marge@...>

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Subject: Re:PMS

Date: Fri, Apr 21, 2000, 5:16 AM

side note... one of my friends reports that if she starts taking evening

primrose oil (capsules) when she starts even thinking about being pms'y...

NO symptoms. (no I don't know how much she takes...) but she swears it's

a 'wonder drug'

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In a message dated 4/23/00 8:22:58 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

marge@... writes:

<< side note... one of my friends reports that if she starts taking evening

primrose oil (capsules) when she starts even thinking about being pms'y...

NO symptoms. (no I don't know how much she takes...) but she swears it's

a 'wonder drug'

(so does her hubby!) >>

I had the post-partum depression of the century with my second baby (lasted

for a total of 2 years!), and I tend to get the " nasty " PMS symptoms (I once

tried to run someone off the beltway). I had started with evening primrose

oil capsules, too, and they worked some. I mentioned what I was taking to my

chiropractor, and he suggested taking black current seed oil capsules. For

me, they worked even better than the evening primrose. I hadn't heard of

this for PMS before, and I really haven't heard much since, except what my

doctor told me. Does any place have Black Current seed oil listed as a help

for PMS?

Patti k

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susanne Sullivan wrote:

10 WAYS TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ESTROGEN ISSUES

1. Everyone around you has an attitude problem.

That is

for sure!! And the biggest attitudes come from the medical community!!

Oops, that includes me too... YEP, I have an attitude!!!

2. You're adding chocolate chips to your cheese omelet.

You mean

this isn't considered normal??? I thought everyone added chocolate

chips to all of their meals.... steamed rice, steamed green beans, frosted

shredded wheat, the list goes on & on!

3. The dryer has shrunk every last pair of your jeans.

I don't

know, I don't wear jeans often enough at the moment to know. I am

one of those short kinds of girls.... between knee injuries, and needing

IM access for Benadryl!! Even below 0 I have worn shorts.

Give

me steroids, and I run around with NOTHING on as often as possible because

I get flashes worse than my mom and she is going through menopause!

4. Your husband is suddenly agreeing to everything

you say.

No husband,

but most of my friends get real agreeable at times... which only ticks

me off more most of the time!

5. You're using your cellular phone to dial up every

bumper sticker that

says: "How's my driving-call 1-800-***-."

You mean

you are NOT supposed to calling those numbers? They are fun to call,

if I didn't so strongly believe that you shouldn't be dialing the phone

while driving down the interstate highway.

6. Everyone's head looks like an invitation to batting-practice.

Batter

up!

I

have my list of people that I would like to BONK really hard, and 95% of

them are in the medical field!

7. You're convinced there's a God and he's male.

Menopause,

Menstruation,

& Mental Health!

8. You think any liquid looks better poured over

someone's head.

Oh, ya!!!!

Thinking something that would stain or change the color of the person's

hair for a few weeks....

9. You're sure that everyone is scheming to drive

you crazy.

Scheming....

NO, we are past scheming, they have already driven me crazy!

10. The ibuprofen bottle is empty and you bought

it yesterday.

I wouldn't

know about this one, I don't have a death wish!

ne AKA Little Ninja Chickie

Thank

you ne.....

I

feel much better now! Between yeast infection, drug allergy after

only one dose, and feeling generally like crap.... I need to feel good

for a few moments before I go do something dumb!

Love

Always,

Anne

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And your point is???????

FW: PMS

> >

> >

> > Top 13 Things PMS Stands for:

> > Pass My Shotgun

> > Psychotic Mood Shift

> > Perpetual Munching Spree

> > Puffy Mid-Section

> > People Make Me Sick

> > Provide Me with Sweets

> > Pardon My Sobbing

> > Pimples May Surface

> > Pass My Sweatpants

> > Pissy Mood Syndrome

> > Plainly; Men Suck

> > Pack My Stuff

> > Permanent Menstrual Syndrome

> >

> > Q: How many women with PMS does it take to change a light bulb?

> > A: One. Only ONE!! And do you know WHY? Because no one else in this

> > damn

> > house knows HOW to change a light bulb! They don't even care that the

> > bulb is

> > BURNED OUT! They would sit in the dark for DAYS before they figured it

> > out.

> > And, once they figured it out, they wouldn't be able to FIND the light

> > bulbs

> > despite the fact that they've been in the SAME CUPBOARD for the past 17

> > YEARS!!! But if they did, by some miracle, actually find them 2 DAYS

> > LATER,

> > the chair they dragged to stand on to change the STUPID light bulb

> > would

> > STILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT WOULD BE THE WRAPPER THE

> > STUPID DAMN BULBS CAME IN!

> > WHY?

> > BECAUSE NO-ONE EVER CARRIES OUT THE GARBAGE!!

> > IT'S A WONDER WE HAVEN'T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THE PILES OF GARBAGE THAT

ARE

> > 12' DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!!! - IT WOULD TAKE AN

> > ARMY

> > TO CLEAN THIS HOUSE!

> > I'm sorry...what did you ask me?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Helen

I hope this is not offensive to anyone...but this *really* applies to me!TOP 14 THINGS PMS STANDS FOR:Pass My ShotgunPsychotic Mood ShiftPerpetual Munching SpreePuffy MidsectionPeople Make Me SickProvide Me with SweetsPardon My SobbingPimples May SurfacePass My SweatpantsPissy Mood SyndromePlainly; Men SuckPack My StuffPermanent Menstrual Syndrome=20Q: How many women with PMS does it take to change alight bulb? A: One.Only ONE!! And do you know WHY? Because no one elsein this darn houseknows HOW to change a light bulb!They don't even care that the bulb is BURNED OUT!They would sit in the dark for DAYS before theyfigured it out. And, oncethey figured it out, they wouldn't be able to FINDthe light bulbs despitethe fact that they've been in the SAME CUPBOARD forthe past 17 YEARS!!!But if they did, by some miracle, actually findthem 2 DAYS LATER, thechair they dragged to stand on to change the STUPIDlight bulb would STILLBe IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT WOULD BE THEWRAPPER THE STUPIDDARN BULBS CAME IN! WHY? BECAUSE NO-ONE EVER CARRIESOUT THE GARBAGE!!IT'S A WONDER WE HAVEN'T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THEPILES OF GARBAGE THAT ARE12' DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!!! -IT WOULD TAKE AN ARMYTO CLEAN THIS HOUSE!I'm sorry...what did you ASK ME

[Guest guest]

I just love this! Thanks for sharing! Hope you are hanging in there!

Love, Barb

PMS

I hope this is not offensive to anyone...but this *really* applies to me!

TOP 14 THINGS PMS STANDS FOR:

Pass My Shotgun

Psychotic Mood Shift

Perpetual Munching Spree

Puffy Midsection

People Make Me Sick

Provide Me with Sweets

Pardon My Sobbing

Pimples May Surface

Pass My Sweatpants

Pissy Mood Syndrome

Plainly; Men Suck

Pack My Stuff

Permanent Menstrual Syndrome

=20

Q: How many women with PMS does it take to change a

light bulb? A: One.

Only ONE!! And do you know WHY? Because no one else

in this darn house

knows HOW to change a light bulb!

They don't even care that the bulb is BURNED OUT!

They would sit in the dark for DAYS before they

figured it out. And, once

they figured it out, they wouldn't be able to FIND

the light bulbs despite

the fact that they've been in the SAME CUPBOARD for

the past 17 YEARS!!!

But if they did, by some miracle, actually find

them 2 DAYS LATER, the

chair they dragged to stand on to change the STUPID

light bulb would STILL

Be IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT WOULD BE THE

WRAPPER THE STUPID

DARN BULBS CAME IN! WHY? BECAUSE NO-ONE EVER CARRIES

OUT THE GARBAGE!!

IT'S A WONDER WE HAVEN'T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THE

PILES OF GARBAGE THAT ARE

12' DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!!! -

IT WOULD TAKE AN ARMY

TO CLEAN THIS HOUSE!

I'm sorry...what did you ask me?

=20

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Excellent , I am most pleased by your report. I am not a woman, so I

feel less than confident about speaking to a woman in regard to her

ovulation-specific dietary needs, but I posit that all those precious

nutrients a woman loses is a good indication of what she needs to obtain in

greater abundance in her diet. I'm thinking liver for you, my friend. Yes.

The deep, rich, nutritious flesh of red meat liver, my wOman friend.

How much vitamin C and bioflavinoids are you getting?

Also, I would like to note in one of my books (I have a little collection,

very humble and I keep just a few nearby for internet musings) about

chromium that Dr. Heinerman states in his entry under iron in his book " Dr.

Heinerman's Encyclopedia of Nature's Vitamins and Minerals " :

" Sometimes a passing health food fad may incline many toward excess

consumption of a particular substance. Those who've foolishly overindulged

in chromium picolinate, for example, have iron knocked out of their systems

becuase it tighly binds with transferrin, the substance that transports iron

around in the blood. "

So, imagine you are approaching the time... you are changing... you reach

for that chocolate candy bar (emotional needs being met dysfunctionally

through foods?). Not a good idea, because chocolate, pure cacao powder, has

oxalic acid, which either binds to iron in the diet, making it inaccessible

or hinders the proper absorption of iron in the food eaten, and by this

anti-nutrient property is advised against especially during this important

time in a woman's life-cycle. Also note that the other common stimulant

foods of coffe and tea have tannins which interfere with iron, such that I

would be careful with any of these foods/herbs by there anti-nutrient

properties. And let's not forget that the coffee bean, cacao bean and

camilla sinensis all contain three stimulants: caffeine, theobromine and

theophylline. Coffee is highest in caffeine, chocolate in theobromine, and

tea in theophylline (I think). Okay, end of lecture. Back to the life of

women. So what if a woman allows herself the " treat " of chocolate and then

decides she had better help her body by downing a chromium picolinate? Can

you see the reasoning behind this? And the implications? Very intriguing I

say! There are superior forms of chromium out there anyway, picolinate is

known to you guys now so this won't be a problem.

Let us note that men commonly have an excess of iron in their body's, we

lose less for obvious reasons. That and our society's views on food and

masculinity/femininity. The human organism actually evolved under threat of

constant parasitical attack, and, as such, has developed a

higher-than-necessary level of iron assimilation and retention (as the

parasites gobble up our own hard-earned nutrients). That, and the lower iron

levels in men correlating to lower incidence of heart attack and you've got

a good look at evolutionary nutrition and one of the dilemmas of modernity!

Okay and friends, I know I've hit you guys with the

nutritional/evolutionary sledge hammer, but let's take it farther. Chocolate

with its oxalic acid, the three aforementioned drugs, phenylethylamine (also

found in cannabis sativa!), the many neurohormones similar to " love "

physiology, sugar (as an isolated simple carb it has stimulant and

anti-nutrient properties): all these addictive drugs and anti-nutrients can

exacerbate any pre-existing nutritional deficiencies and make things more

difficult. This can increase food cravings! It just makes sense, from many

physiological/nutritional viewpoints to engage in a dedicated paleoithic (O)

low-carb diet closer to your evolved biological form during the time of

increased cyclical stress, if not every day life.

You've already discovered one of the fascinating benefits of low carb you O

you! Now, let's remember what carbs in excess (for us O's this is

exasperatingly easy to achieve!) do to us, hormonally, endocrinologically,

emotionally (related to the endocrine's functioning and as a direct result

of neurochemistry and blood-sugar levels) and put everything together and

you've got the recipe for disaster. Carbs, carbs, carbs. Go for it

Maskell, I applaud you, and feel free to give us an update. I know it's

strange, sharing some of the most personal and to many " distasteful " aspects

of our lives with hundreds of complete strangers all over the world, this is

the burgeoning glory of the internet folks!!! But this is where it is not

only appropriate, but is essential in the awakening for us all to live

better lives (which money/affluence doesn't seem to achieve... does it?). I

and I'm sure many others would greatly appreciate your progress on this

front. I'm not a woman, I would value your life-experience on this. As you

have undoubtedly already determined, I am very interested in diet and

nutrition as it relates to us as evolved organisms and if you could keep in

mind what your diet has been, what you're eating, what you haven't been

eating that you normally do, what differences in diet, supplement usage,

exercise-related info (endocrine and general physiology factors) and give

the skinny on the results we can have the power of O beam brightly in this

mailing group's " O " vulation nutrition!

PMS

>

> Axel wrote:

>

> << In addition, I would like to declare that low-carb

> is totally awesome. Don't be put off by the sleeping

> complications (we must have been designed to hunt down

> big animals and eat them on the run with less

> neurological need to sleep) because I've read a number

> of low-carbers convey amazement at the reduction or

> disappearance of the discomforts of much that is

> considered PMS.>>

>

> I have to admit I was surprised by my last cycle. Usually I have

> 'warning signs', signs that I have apparently come to rely as an

> indicator. In the past, I would have emotional machinations related

> to my cycle, usually manifesting in a cry/plea " What's the matter with

> me? " When I would utter those words, it would be a flag indicating my

> menstruation, usually arriving within hours. This month, I had no

> such indicator.

>

> I did, however, have some SERIOUS cravings during menstruation that

> resulted in my eating 2 candy bars a day for four days. What minerals

> am I craving?

>

> I am attempting to prepare myself for my next cycle; reviewing the

> archives I have come up with:

>

> L-Glutamine

> Chromium

> Magnesium/Calcium

> Iron

> B-Complex

> Flax

> Dandelion Root tea

>

> Have I missed anything here? I also intend to have some HB fruit on

> hand for this time of the month, as fruit would be preferable to

> candy.

>

>

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Extra B 6 used to help me out in those days,

Emm

[Guest guest]

That looks like a good surmise . I think I shall keep that list for

myself. (It's my turn, today! All the cravings and the crummy " I can't cut

it, today " feeling)

-----Original Message-----

From: Maskell

I have to admit I was surprised by my last cycle. Usually I have

'warning signs', signs that I have apparently come to rely as an

indicator. In the past, I would have emotional machinations related

to my cycle, usually manifesting in a cry/plea " What's the matter with

me? " When I would utter those words, it would be a flag indicating my

menstruation, usually arriving within hours. This month, I had no

such indicator.

I did, however, have some SERIOUS cravings during menstruation that

resulted in my eating 2 candy bars a day for four days. What minerals

am I craving?

I am attempting to prepare myself for my next cycle; reviewing the

archives I have come up with:

L-Glutamine

Chromium

Magnesium/Calcium

Iron

B-Complex

Flax

Dandelion Root tea

Have I missed anything here? I also intend to have some HB fruit on

hand for this time of the month, as fruit would be preferable to

candy.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone (well, actually the girls ...)

Is there anyone out there who has suffered from PMS and beaten it?

If so, I would love to hear what you did to get over it. It's such a drag!

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Hi:

I find that taking equal amounts of calcium/magnesium works for me.

Some people have tried Evening Primrose oil which works as well.

I haven't tried it yet. I also try not to have things to do when

my PMS is bad. I try to have my boys out of the house so they don't

drive me crazy. :-) I don't need the added stress anyway.

van Wichen wrote:

Hi everyone (well, actually the girls ...)

Is there anyone out there who has suffered from PMS and beaten it?

If so, I would love to hear what you did to get over it. It's

such a drag!

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Hi ,

I have noticed that drinking Vervein infusion makes the pain more

bearable as well as not eating any bread or bakery

Walking also helps me personally

But overall I'll be honest even though I have very painful PMS I

usually feel good about it - it's a special moment sort of like

fasting

A friend of mine goes to native american sweat lodges and when women

are on their " moon time " they have special ceremonies just for that

she says it's wonderful...

Best

Guylaine

>Hi everyone (well, actually the girls ...)

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>Is there anyone out there who has suffered from PMS and beaten it?

>

>If so, I would love to hear what you did to get over it. It's such a drag!

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Dear ,

Dr. Lee's book, "Everything Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Menopause," also has a lot of information on PMS. Lots of us on this list have bought the book. He recommends ProGest cream for 2 weeks prior to onset of menstruation. He recommends supplements as well. You can buy ProGest cream at a health food store, and can buy the book on line. I have been using ProGest cream for years, and can vouch that it works.

AntJoan

P.S. ProGest stimulates the thyroid, and when I had Graves I had to discontinue using it. When I recovered from Graves, I started using it again, and have been using it for 4 years now with no ill effect.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ant Joan,

Is progest cream the only HRT that you use? If not, what are the others? How often do you use progest - every day or just 2 weeks before your period? Thanks for your response. Best wishes, Zoey

Re: PMS

Dear , Dr. Lee's book, "Everything Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Menopause," also has a lot of information on PMS. Lots of us on this list have bought the book. He recommends progest cream for 2 weeks prior to onset of menstruation. He recommends supplements as well. You can buy ProGest cream at a health food store, and can buy the book on line. I have been using ProGest cream for years, and can vouch that it works. AntJoan P.S. ProGest stimulates the thyroid, and when I had Graves I had to discontinue using it. When I recovered from Graves, I started using it again, and have been using it for 4 years now with no ill effect.

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Dear Zoey,

I use ProGest, and eats lots of soy, which contains phytoestrogens. Here is the schedule for ProGest: Use for 2 weeks prior to your period only. For those after menopause, use for 3 weeks on, one week off, each month. ProGest counteracts the bloating, and stimulates the metabolism. It probably stimulates the thyroid also, which is why I discontinued it when I had Graves. However, for those who are hypoT, it's probably great!

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Dear AntJoan,

Thanks for the info. I've been using the combipatch for almost a year to try and prevent bone loss. I really don't like being on HRT and have yet to experience any benefits only problems. Having never had a hot flash, PMS, or other symptoms, I was able to get away with using it. Hope you are doing well. Best wishes, Zoey

Re: PMS

Dear Zoey, I use ProGest, and eats lots of soy, which contains phytoestrogens. Here is the schedule for ProGest: Use for 2 weeks prior to your period only. For those after menopause, use for 3 weeks on, one week off, each month. ProGest counteracts the bloating, and stimulates the metabolism. It probably stimulates the thyroid also, which is why I discontinued it when I had Graves. However, for those who are hypoT, it's probably great! AntJoan

[Guest guest]

To , Donna, Guylaine and AntJoan,

Thanks for the advice on PMS.

- I think I should be getting enough calc/mag with the supplement I am

on. How much do you take?

Donna - I am just taking the standard 2 scoops per day of NOW. (I swapped

over from the Classic). Maybe before my period I need to take more? I

haven't talked to my distributor about it.

Guylaine - the native american sweat lodges sound great! Sounds like the

girls getting together to have a break and a sauna or 2?? Relaxing together

must be great therapy. By the way, how do you pronounce Guylaine? On the

subject of PMS - have you read 'The Red Tent'? I can't remember the authors

name, but it's set in Israel somewhere in biblical times, but is not a bible

story as such. I found it fascinating how the women in other cultures

manage their lives together.

AntJoan - I will try to get hold of the book you mentioned. What is in the

Pro Gest cream? I don't think now would be a good time for me to start

taking something like that, as I'm in the process of weaning myself off the

ATDs (1/4 pill per day).

Thanks again everybody,

>From: AntJoan@...

>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: Re: PMS

>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:40:55 EDT

>

>Dear Zoey,

>

>I use ProGest, and eats lots of soy, which contains phytoestrogens. Here

>is

>the schedule for ProGest: Use for 2 weeks prior to your period only. For

>those after menopause, use for 3 weeks on, one week off, each month.

>ProGest

>counteracts the bloating, and stimulates the metabolism. It probably

>stimulates the thyroid also, which is why I discontinued it when I had

>Graves. However, for those who are hypoT, it's probably great!

>

>AntJoan

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,

You're welcome,

My French name is a pronunciation challenge for all my American friends !

Think of it as a long version of Glen with the sound " ee " in the

middle (that's not really clear either I guess !) - " Guy " is

pronounced like the male name and " laine " is like " lynn "

People usually call me a variety of names - from " G " to " Guy " to " the

French chick " to " Mademoiselle " or other exotic nicknames - it's all

good !

I'll have to get that book you're talking about it sounds very

interesting - i wonder if some cultures have songs that women sing to

help them deal with the PMS -

regarding native american culture - i also love the fact that for

them women are sacred when they are on their period because they're

connected to a superior realm during that time

Talk to you soon,

Guylaine

>To , Donna, Guylaine and AntJoan,

>

>Thanks for the advice on PMS.

>

> - I think I should be getting enough calc/mag with the supplement I am

>on. How much do you take?

>

>Donna - I am just taking the standard 2 scoops per day of NOW. (I swapped

>over from the Classic). Maybe before my period I need to take more? I

>haven't talked to my distributor about it.

>

>Guylaine - the native american sweat lodges sound great! Sounds like the

>girls getting together to have a break and a sauna or 2?? Relaxing together

>must be great therapy. By the way, how do you pronounce Guylaine? On the

>subject of PMS - have you read 'The Red Tent'? I can't remember the authors

>name, but it's set in Israel somewhere in biblical times, but is not a bible

>story as such. I found it fascinating how the women in other cultures

>manage their lives together.

>

>AntJoan - I will try to get hold of the book you mentioned. What is in the

>Pro Gest cream? I don't think now would be a good time for me to start

>taking something like that, as I'm in the process of weaning myself off the

>ATDs (1/4 pill per day).

>

>Thanks again everybody,

>

>

>

>

>>From: AntJoan@...

>>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>>hyperthyroidism

>>Subject: Re: PMS

>>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:40:55 EDT

>>

>>Dear Zoey,

>>

>>I use ProGest, and eats lots of soy, which contains phytoestrogens. Here

>>is

>>the schedule for ProGest: Use for 2 weeks prior to your period only. For

>>those after menopause, use for 3 weeks on, one week off, each month.

>>ProGest

>>counteracts the bloating, and stimulates the metabolism. It probably

>>stimulates the thyroid also, which is why I discontinued it when I had

>>Graves. However, for those who are hypoT, it's probably great!

>>

>>AntJoan

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In a message dated 4/21/2002 8:49:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vivelesrats@... writes:

What is in the

>Pro Gest cream?

Dear PMS discussion people,

I don't know what happened, but I didn't get this e-mail. I wonder what else I missed--AOL has been acting up lately, and I'm not sure what to do.

Progesterone is the main ingredient in ProGest, but there's other stuff in it as well, I think some creams and oils.

AntJoan

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I take about 2000 mg of the cal/mag a day and then add a capsule of magnesium

twice a day with the first and the last of the four dosage of the cal/mag

every day. My 3 capsules of the cal/mag equals 500 mg per dosage.

van Wichen wrote:

To , Donna, Guylaine and AntJoan,

Thanks for the advice on PMS.

- I think I should be getting enough calc/mag with the supplement

I am

on. How much do you take?

Donna - I am just taking the standard 2 scoops per day of NOW.

(I swapped

over from the Classic). Maybe before my period I need to

take more? I

haven't talked to my distributor about it.

Guylaine - the native american sweat lodges sound great! Sounds

like the

girls getting together to have a break and a sauna or 2??

Relaxing together

must be great therapy. By the way, how do you pronounce Guylaine?

On the

subject of PMS - have you read 'The Red Tent'? I can't remember

the authors

name, but it's set in Israel somewhere in biblical times, but is

not a bible

story as such. I found it fascinating how the women in other

cultures

manage their lives together.

AntJoan - I will try to get hold of the book you mentioned.

What is in the

Pro Gest cream? I don't think now would be a good time for

me to start

taking something like that, as I'm in the process of weaning myself

off the

ATDs (1/4 pill per day).

Thanks again everybody,

>From: AntJoan@...

>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: Re: PMS

>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:40:55 EDT

>

>Dear Zoey,

>

>I use ProGest, and eats lots of soy, which contains phytoestrogens.

Here

>is

>the schedule for ProGest: Use for 2 weeks prior to your

period only. For

>those after menopause, use for 3 weeks on, one week off, each

month.

>ProGest

>counteracts the bloating, and stimulates the metabolism.

It probably

>stimulates the thyroid also, which is why I discontinued it when

I had

>Graves. However, for those who are hypoT, it's probably

great!

>

>AntJoan

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Does Skylar have her period yet?? As far as I know ( & this is my 'plan of

action' once my daughter gets her period) is to put her on the pill to help

control the hormones.

Something to speak to your Dr about, but I'd like to hear what he

recommends.

Mona

PMS

Hi All

I know we have had countless postings about this before so please

forgive me for asking again. My 10 year old daughter Skylar (autistic)

is showing major signs of PMS. It is now starting to interfere with her

school work and just generally making her very hard to get along with at

this time each month. I have a Dr. appointment for her next week and

was wondering if there is any specific meds that worked well for anyone

for this problem. I am sorry for asking this again if it has already

been answered. Any help anyone could give me would be greatly

appreciated!

Thanks

Tracey

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Hi Mona

No Skylar doesn't have her period yet and it is a day I am not looking

forward to. She does know about it and understands what will happen to

her but I am still not ready for that day. My older daughter, Coral,

started her period at 10 but did the same thing Sky is doing and would

have major pms sypmtoms at the same time every month for about 8 months

before she actually started. The pill is something I am definately

considering. I will let you know what my Dr. says.

Thanks

Tracey

Mona Litman wrote:

> Does Skylar have her period yet?? As far as I know ( & this is my

> 'plan of

> action' once my daughter gets her period) is to put her on the pill to

> help

> control the hormones.

> Something to speak to your Dr about, but I'd like to hear what he

> recommends.

>

> Mona

> PMS

>

>

> Hi All

> I know we have had countless postings about this before so please

> forgive me for asking again. My 10 year old daughter Skylar

> (autistic)

> is showing major signs of PMS. It is now starting to interfere with

> her

> school work and just generally making her very hard to get along

> with at

> this time each month. I have a Dr. appointment for her next week

> and

> was wondering if there is any specific meds that worked well for

> anyone

> for this problem. I am sorry for asking this again if it has

> already

> been answered. Any help anyone could give me would be greatly

> appreciated!

> Thanks

> Tracey

>

>

>

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Hi

Where did you get the camomile capsules? At a health food store or drug

store? They sound like they are worth giving a try. Sky doesn't have

any allergies, that I know of, so hopefully she wouldn't have a reaction

to the. Anything to help her with this emotional rollercoaster she is

going through every month.

Thanks

Tracey

Dougherty wrote:

> Dear Tracey,

> We tried about 2 months of Camomile capsules with my daughter and

> had

> terrifice success with it helping her ease into her period without and

> PMS

> symptoms. However, she developed an allergy to it as I didn't know it

> was

> related to the ragweed family. I slowly weaned her off and the allergy

>

> symptoms went away, but the PMS came back. I'm still trying to decide

> whether to try the camomile once again, but give her a little Benadryl

> to

> counteract the allergy symptoms.

>

> PMS

>

>

> > Hi All

> > I know we have had countless postings about this before so please

> > forgive me for asking again. My 10 year old daughter Skylar

> (autistic)

> > is showing major signs of PMS. It is now starting to interfere with

> her

> > school work and just generally making her very hard to get along

> with at

> > this time each month. I have a Dr. appointment for her next week

> and

> > was wondering if there is any specific meds that worked well for

> anyone

> > for this problem. I am sorry for asking this again if it has

> already

> > been answered. Any help anyone could give me would be greatly

> > appreciated!

> > Thanks

> > Tracey

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >