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_http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.

htm_

(http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.htm)

This link above shows the following. I made the one part bold that I

wonder might actually be the people who have been told they have fibromyalgia

and they have thyroid disease. I can't tell you how many people I have met on

this board that have fibro and how many on my fibro group that have hypo

thyroid. I wonder what the protein is that is in the connective tissues and

if it can be reduced. If anyone knows, please tell me.

Hypothyroid Arthritis. Arthritis from an underactive thyroid gland is

related to excessive deposits of certain proteins in connective tissues.

Thyroid stimulating hormone, produced by the pituitary gland at the base of the

brain, may cause the excessive protein collections. Symptoms include vague

aches and pains, but usually there are no inflammatory signs. Joint

thickening and fluid collections occur in 33% of patients. Knees, ankles, and

small

hand and foot joints are involved and are unusually thick. Knee x-rays

show a characteristic thinning of bone near the joint.

Muscle disease from an under active thyroid gland is characterized by slow

movements and delayed muscle contraction. Fifty percent of patients will

complain of weakness, muscle cramping, pain and stiffness. Muscle

enlargement is noted in 15% of patients, but muscle shrinkage is rare. Symptoms

are

aggravated by cold and inactivity. Chemicals from muscle tissue can be quite

elevated in the blood. An EMG test (electromyogram) will demonstrate a

characteristic abnormality. Examination of muscle tissue under the microscope

shows typical changes.

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I have both, and the symptoms are totally familiar. However, no doctor I've gone

to, no matter what discipline has checked for anything like this. My rheumy just

had xrays taken because I've been complaining about new pains in neck,shoulders,

arms, hips, knees. I also get terrible foot cramping. I'm sensitive to cold now,

which is new since my whole life I was always too hot. He also had thyroid tests

done but decided we'd wait three months and see what happens.

Roni

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isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

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Subject: wow thyroid arthritis with a certain protein in the

blood

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:03 PM

_http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.

htm_

(http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.htm)

This link above shows the  following. I made the one part bold that I

wonder might actually be the people  who have been told they have fibromyalgia

and they have thyroid disease. I can't  tell you how many people I have met on

this board that have fibro and how many  on my fibro group that have hypo

thyroid. I wonder what the protein is that is  in the connective tissues and

if it can be reduced. If anyone knows, please tell  me.

Hypothyroid Arthritis. Arthritis from an underactive  thyroid gland is

related to excessive deposits of certain proteins in connective  tissues.

Thyroid stimulating hormone, produced by the pituitary gland at the  base of the

brain, may cause the excessive protein collections. Symptoms  include vague

aches and pains, but usually there are no inflammatory  signs. Joint

thickening and fluid collections occur in 33% of patients.  Knees, ankles, and

small

hand and foot joints are involved and are unusually  thick. Knee x-rays

show a characteristic thinning of bone near the  joint.

Muscle disease from an under  active thyroid gland is characterized by slow

movements and delayed muscle  contraction. Fifty percent of patients will

complain of weakness, muscle  cramping, pain and stiffness. Muscle

enlargement is noted in 15% of patients,  but muscle shrinkage is rare. Symptoms

are

aggravated by cold and inactivity.  Chemicals from muscle tissue can be quite

elevated in the blood. An EMG test  (electromyogram) will demonstrate a

characteristic abnormality. Examination of  muscle tissue under the microscope

shows typical  changes.

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Yeah i've never been checked for anything like this. I'm trying to look now

to see if I can find information on it. It seems logical that the fibro is

actually thyroid to me. I wonder if they can pin point this protein if

there's a way to reduce the amount in the body to give us relief.

I'm going to print that and ask the doctor next time I go in. Hope others

might too and see what they say. It's interesting, because they say there's

no inflammation which I've been told. I just ache all over.

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I have both, and the symptoms are totally familiar. However, no doctor

I've gone to, no matter what discipline has checked for anything like this. My

rheumy just had xrays taken because I've been complaining about new pains

in neck,shoulders, arms, hips, knees. I also get terrible foot cramping.

I'm sensitive to cold now, which is new since my whole life I was always too

hot. He also had thyroid tests done but decided we'd wait three months and

see what happens.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: tyblossom@... <tyblossom@...>

Subject: wow thyroid arthritis with a certain protein in

the blood

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:03 PM

_http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.

htm_

(http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/treat/facts/Endocrine%20Disorders.

htm)

This link above shows the following. I made the one part bold that I

wonder might actually be the people who have been told they have

fibromyalgia

and they have thyroid disease. I can't tell you how many people I have

met on

this board that have fibro and how many on my fibro group that have hypo

thyroid. I wonder what the protein is that is in the connective tissues

and

if it can be reduced. If anyone knows, please tell me.

Hypothyroid Arthritis. Arthritis from an underactive thyroid gland is

related to excessive deposits of certain proteins in connective tissues.

Thyroid stimulating hormone, produced by the pituitary gland at the base

of the

brain, may cause the excessive protein collections. Symptoms include

vague

aches and pains, but usually there are no inflammatory signs. Joint

thickening and fluid collections occur in 33% of patients. Knees, ankles,

and small

hand and foot joints are involved and are unusually thick. Knee x-rays

show a characteristic thinning of bone near the joint.

Muscle disease from an under active thyroid gland is characterized by

slow

movements and delayed muscle contraction. Fifty percent of patients will

complain of weakness, muscle cramping, pain and stiffness. Muscle

enlargement is noted in 15% of patients, but muscle shrinkage is rare.

Symptoms are

aggravated by cold and inactivity. Chemicals from muscle tissue can be

quite

elevated in the blood. An EMG test (electromyogram) will demonstrate a

characteristic abnormality. Examination of muscle tissue under the

microscope

shows typical changes.

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Just be very careful with pain relievers containing acetaminophen

because it can destroy your liver and flat out kill you. The full

article is in the link below the excerpt below.

Acetaminophen is contained in many products so the doses can add up.

Just yesterday the Tampa Tribune reported that an advisory panel to the

FDA was recommending removing two of the top pain relievers from the market.

IIRC liver damage can be far advanced without symptoms.

Luck,

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>

> FDA Advisers Urge Smaller Doses of Acetaminophen

>

>

> The concern is that the drug can cause liver damage, even death,

> if used improperly

>

> Posted June 30, 2009

>

> *By Steve Reinberg*

> /HealthDay Reporter/

>

> TUESDAY, June 30 (HealthDay News) -- U.S. health advisers recommended

> Tuesday to lower the maximum dose of over-the-counter acetaminophen --

> the key ingredient in Tylenol, Excedrin and many other pain-killing

> medications.

>

> *

> 26156446

>

> Recommendations by Loomia <http://www.loomia.com/>

>

> The advisers' vote followed the release of a U.S. Food and Drug

> Administration report last month. It found that severe liver damage

> and even death can result from a lack of consumer awareness that

> acetaminophen -- which is easier on the stomach than painkillers such

> as aspirin and ibuprofen -- can cause such injury.

>

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> tyblossom <tyblossom>

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> Wed Jul 1, 2009 5:07 am (PDT)

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>

>

> Yeah i've never been checked for anything like this. I'm trying to

> look now

> to see if I can find information on it. It seems logical that the

> fibro is

> actually thyroid to me. I wonder if they can pin point this protein if

> there's a way to reduce the amount in the body to give us relief.

>

> I'm going to print that and ask the doctor next time I go in. Hope others

> might too and see what they say. It's interesting, because they say

> there's

> no inflammation which I've been told. I just ache all over.

>

>

>

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