Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer Registered by EPA (chlorine dioxide)

[Guest guest]

I have been following the MDI_News group which is for the Miracle

Mineral Supplement (MMS). This is a group who are using themselves as

guinea pigs for Jim Humble's formulation. Actually maybe 100,000

people have used it successfully to cure malaria, AIDS, etc. Now the

EPA is recognizing its use in sterilizing surfaces against MRSA.

http://www.medicaln ewstoday. com/articles/ 30105.php

Of course, this is already in use as a sterilizer in hospital

settings, as a purifier for water systems and to bleach various

substances. If you are in the habit of visiting hospitals you may

want to have some around. You can find out about the drinkable kind

at miraclemineral.com or join the MDI_News group.

Pat

>

> If you join the

> group on , go to Files, then to Disease

> Research Results, you will find an

> alphabetically arranged list of conditions for

> which results have been reported wherein the low

> cost devices have been used. MRSA is listed with

> some very good outcomes--quick cure--hard to beat

> for good outcome. The photo section shows how

> to build these devices and they are soooo easy

> and cheap. The owner of the list is very careful

> about cautions and now recommends using nothing

> over 6 volts and we can use even lower voltages.

> The gov't. of Ethiopia (think it's Ethiopia) has

> requested and received a prototype of the

> Ultimate Godzilla since they really greatly need

> something cheap and effective. pj

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

here???

ACK

Sam :-o

[Guest guest]

Sam,

I used to use iodine on scrapes and cuts my two sons used to come home

with all the time. I used a form of it called Isodine, which still has the

iodine, but not the alcohol, and doesn't burn.

As for taking it internally, in large doses, on purpose, I still have a problem

with that. When I was a kid my mother was hypoT, and they gave her iodine

orally. Before you knew it, she had to have a goiter operation, and then of

course, had to take more thyroid medication for life.

So far, I am still concerned about doing this. I do eat iodized salt, kosher

salt and sea salt, and there is iodine in food, but that's about it for me.

Roni

Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer Registered by EPA

(chlorine dioxide)

Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

here???

ACK

Sam :-o

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Roni,

I am with you on this. I am still not convinced this is the thing to be taking.

I have been

doing a lot of reading on this, also. I wish it was an easy decision but it is

not completely;

for me anyway.

Venizia

>

> Sam,

>

> I used to use iodine on scrapes and cuts my two sons used to come home

> with all the time. I used a form of it called Isodine, which still has the

iodine, but not the

alcohol, and doesn't burn.

>

> As for taking it internally, in large doses, on purpose, I still have a

problem with that.

When I was a kid my mother was hypoT, and they gave her iodine orally. Before

you knew

it, she had to have a goiter operation, and then of course, had to take more

thyroid

medication for life.

>

> So far, I am still concerned about doing this. I do eat iodized salt, kosher

salt and sea

salt, and there is iodine in food, but that's about it for me.

>

> Roni

>

>

> Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer Registered by EPA

(chlorine dioxide)

>

> Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> here???

>

> ACK

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

I will read the article you posted. Thank you. My doctor has not prescribed

iodine. In fact,

he is very much against it. I do plan on bringing it up again at my next

appointment,

however.

Venizia

> >

> > Sam,

> >

> > I used to use iodine on scrapes and cuts my two sons used to come home

> > with all the time. I used a form of it called Isodine, which still has the

iodine, but not

the

> alcohol, and doesn't burn.

> >

> > As for taking it internally, in large doses, on purpose, I still have a

problem with that.

> When I was a kid my mother was hypoT, and they gave her iodine orally. Before

you

knew

> it, she had to have a goiter operation, and then of course, had to take more

thyroid

> medication for life.

> >

> > So far, I am still concerned about doing this. I do eat iodized salt,

kosher salt and sea

> salt, and there is iodine in food, but that's about it for me.

> >

> > Roni

> >

> >

> > Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer Registered by

EPA

> (chlorine dioxide)

> >

> > Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> > here???

> >

> > ACK

> >

> > Sam :-o

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

So, if you get a staph infection, put iodine on it. If you get a

staph infection in your lungs, use an iodine vapor on it.

What sort of iodine did they give your mom? Lugol's?

How much? Because, typically the cause of goiter (swollen thyroid)

is due to iodine " deficiency " . They murdered my thyroid with organic

iodine (RAI), and I have to take desiccated thyroid or I will die.

What's a large dose of iodine? I think the lowest toxic dose of

iodine is something like 1400 mg, or is that grams? But if you search

aroud the internet you'll see many links that say anything over

150mcg is too much. Did you know that a non-iodine deficient human,

after ingesting 50mg of Iodoral will pee out all but 10% of that?

There is quite a bit of info out there about people taking larger

doses of iodine for other conditions, but none of them developed

goiter, etc.

One thing you can do for yourself is get rid of that crappy processed

iodized salt and get some celtic sea salt. The other thing is to

maybe get hold of a copy of Brownstein's 3rd edition of his iodine

book. www.drbrownstein.com

You have every right to be fearful of something you don't know a lot

about. But when you're searching to learn about it, please pay more

attention to the info from non-pharmaceutical company based research

on this subject, expecially if it refers to the Wolf-Chaikoff effect

because that has never been proven to happen in human beings. A great

place to start is http://www.iodine4health.com

So, anyway, if you ever get a staph infection, use iodine on it.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

>

> Sam,

>

> I used to use iodine on scrapes and cuts my two sons used to come

home

> with all the time. I used a form of it called Isodine, which still

has the iodine, but not the alcohol, and doesn't burn.

>

> As for taking it internally, in large doses, on purpose, I still

have a problem with that. When I was a kid my mother was hypoT, and

they gave her iodine orally. Before you knew it, she had to have a

goiter operation, and then of course, had to take more thyroid

medication for life.

>

> So far, I am still concerned about doing this. I do eat iodized

salt, kosher salt and sea salt, and there is iodine in food, but

that's about it for me.

>

> Roni

>

>

> Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer

Registered by EPA (chlorine dioxide)

>

> Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> here???

>

> ACK

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I really don't know what type they gave her, but maybe it was what

they gave you.

I'll keep looking.

Roni

Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer

Registered by EPA (chlorine dioxide)

>

> Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> here???

>

> ACK

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

[Guest guest]

When I said this " ...expecially if it refers to the Wolf-Chaikoff

effect because that has never been proven to happen in human beings " ,

apart from the bad spelling, I meant to " not " pay attention to the

big Pharma based research eSpeially if it refers to the Wolf-Chaikoff

Effect.

But anyway, way back when, when they used RAI to nuke a thyroid, they

sometimes either gave too little or too much. It could be that your

mom got too little and her poor deficient thyroid tried hard to

capture more body iodine to make thyroid hormones by swelling up, so

they surgically removed it.

Sam

(thyroidless since 1990)

> >

> > Sam,

> >

> > I used to use iodine on scrapes and cuts my two sons used to come

> home

> > with all the time. I used a form of it called Isodine, which

still

> has the iodine, but not the alcohol, and doesn't burn.

> >

> > As for taking it internally, in large doses, on purpose, I still

> have a problem with that. When I was a kid my mother was hypoT, and

> they gave her iodine orally. Before you knew it, she had to have a

> goiter operation, and then of course, had to take more thyroid

> medication for life.

> >

> > So far, I am still concerned about doing this. I do eat iodized

> salt, kosher salt and sea salt, and there is iodine in food, but

> that's about it for me.

> >

> > Roni

> >

> >

> > Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer

> Registered by EPA (chlorine dioxide)

> >

> > Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's

head

> > here???

> >

> > ACK

> >

> > Sam :-o

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> >

[Guest guest]

It just seems a little strange to me how iodine seems to be a cure for

EVERYTHING?

In a message dated 10/25/07 6:21:38 PM, k9gang@... writes:

>

> Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> here???

>

> ACK

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sam,

Povidone-iodine (better known as Betadine) is indeed lethal to staph

that gets mixed in it. So is alcohol. That doesn't mean a drunken bender

will cure a MRSA infection. Once MRSA gets into your skin, and

especially as a systemic infection, the iodine or alcohol can't reach it

at effective levels.

You wrote:

>

> ..You have every right to be fearful of something you don't know a lot

> about. But when you're searching to learn about it, please pay more

> attention to the info from non-pharmaceutical company based research

> on this subject, expecially if it refers to the Wolf-Chaikoff effect

> because that has never been proven to happen in human beings....

You are quoting that ding-a-ling Abraham again. He is in the business of

selling iodine. I don't have access to Medline articles from home, but

here are a few papers that purport to show the Wolf-Chaikoff effect in

humans. It is so well established that Lugol's is commonly used in

surgery prep to reduce thyroid function just prior to surgery. It is

also listed as a COMMONLY OBSERVED SIDE EFFECT of several iodine

containing medications, such as amiadarone, sotalol, and dronedarone.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/80/1/220.pdf

Nagataki S, Yokoyama N 1996 Autoregulation: effects of iodide. In:

Braverman LE, Utiger RD (eds) Werner and Ingbar’s the Thyroid: A

Fundamental and Clinical Text. Lippincott-Raven, Philadelphia, pp 241–247.

lyn JA, JR, Gammage MD et al. Amiodarone and thyroid hormone

action. Clin Endocrinol 1985; 22: 257-264.

Adverse effect of amniofetography on fetal thyroid function. Am J

Obstet Gynecol. 126:723-6.

Sarne DH, DeGroot LJ 1989 Hypothalamic and Neuroendocrine regulation of

thyroid hormone. In: DeGroot LJ (ed) Endocrinology. WB Saunders Co,

Philadelphia, vol 1:574–589

l’Allemand D, Gruters A, Heidemann P, Schurbrand P. 1983

Iodine-indued alterations of thyroid function in newborn infants

after prenatal and perinatal exposure to povidone iodine. J Pediatr.

102:935-8.

Eng P, Cardona G, Fang S, Previti M, S, Carrasco N, Chin W,

Braverman L (1999). " Escape from the acute Wolff-Chaikoff effect is

associated with a decrease in thyroid sodium/iodide symporter messenger

ribonucleic acid and protein " . Endocrinology 140 (8): 3404-10.

Gruters A, 1’Allemand D, Heidemann PH, Schurnbrand P. 1983

l’Allemand D, Gruters A, Beyer P, Weber B. 1987 Iodine in

contrast agents and skin disinfectants is the major cause for

hypothyroidism in premature infants during intensive care. Horm Res.

218:42-9.

Chanoine JP, Boulvain M, Bourdoux P, et al. 1988 Increased recall

rate at screening for congenital hypothyroidism in breast fed infants

born to iodine overloaded mothers. Arch Dis Child. 63:1207-10.

Smerdely P, Lim A, Boyages SC. 1989 Topical iodine-containing

antiseptics and neonatal hypothyroidism in very-low-birth-weight

infants. Lancet. 2:661-4.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I'm from a doctor family and having a number of relatives including

mother and 2 infant siblings acquiring staph infectins of varying

degrees, I can safely say that iodine kills staph.

Iodine can be applied to the skin, inhaled as a vapor, and is safe

giving intravenously...

Sam

> >

> > ..You have every right to be fearful of something you don't know

a lot

> > about. But when you're searching to learn about it, please pay

more

> > attention to the info from non-pharmaceutical company based

research

> > on this subject, expecially if it refers to the Wolf-Chaikoff

effect

> > because that has never been proven to happen in human beings....

>

> You are quoting that ding-a-ling Abraham again. He is in the

business of

> selling iodine. I don't have access to Medline articles from home,

but

> here are a few papers that purport to show the Wolf-Chaikoff effect

in

> humans. It is so well established that Lugol's is commonly used in

> surgery prep to reduce thyroid function just prior to surgery. It

is

> also listed as a COMMONLY OBSERVED SIDE EFFECT of several iodine

> containing medications, such as amiadarone, sotalol, and

dronedarone.

>

> http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/80/1/220.pdf

>

> Nagataki S, Yokoyama N 1996 Autoregulation: effects of iodide. In:

> Braverman LE, Utiger RD (eds) Werner and Ingbar's the Thyroid: A

> Fundamental and Clinical Text. Lippincott-Raven, Philadelphia, pp

241–247.

> lyn JA, JR, Gammage MD et al. Amiodarone and thyroid

hormone

> action. Clin Endocrinol 1985; 22: 257-264.

> Adverse effect of amniofetography on fetal thyroid function. Am J

> Obstet Gynecol. 126:723-6.

> Sarne DH, DeGroot LJ 1989 Hypothalamic and Neuroendocrine

regulation of

> thyroid hormone. In: DeGroot LJ (ed) Endocrinology. WB Saunders Co,

> Philadelphia, vol 1:574–589

> l'Allemand D, Gruters A, Heidemann P, Schurbrand P. 1983

> Iodine-indued alterations of thyroid function in newborn infants

> after prenatal and perinatal exposure to povidone iodine. J Pediatr.

> 102:935-8.

> Eng P, Cardona G, Fang S, Previti M, S, Carrasco N, Chin W,

> Braverman L (1999). " Escape from the acute Wolff-Chaikoff effect is

> associated with a decrease in thyroid sodium/iodide symporter

messenger

> ribonucleic acid and protein " . Endocrinology 140 (8): 3404-10.

> Gruters A, 1'Allemand D, Heidemann PH, Schurnbrand P. 1983

> l'Allemand D, Gruters A, Beyer P, Weber B. 1987 Iodine in

> contrast agents and skin disinfectants is the major cause for

> hypothyroidism in premature infants during intensive care. Horm Res.

> 218:42-9.

> Chanoine JP, Boulvain M, Bourdoux P, et al. 1988 Increased recall

> rate at screening for congenital hypothyroidism in breast fed

infants

> born to iodine overloaded mothers. Arch Dis Child. 63:1207-10.

> Smerdely P, Lim A, Boyages SC. 1989 Topical iodine-containing

> antiseptics and neonatal hypothyroidism in very-low-birth-weight

> infants. Lancet. 2:661-4.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Iodine was called the universal medicine. it is antibacterial, antiviral,

antiyeast etc etc. The medical school saying was " if ye know not where and why,

treat ye then with SKI (potassium iodide) what is amazing is that docs used

to use it! and then they forgot about it, and then big pharma moved in to fill

the void.

Gracia

It just seems a little strange to me how iodine seems to be a cure for

EVERYTHING?

In a message dated 10/25/07 6:21:38 PM, k9gang@... writes:

>

> Did the " iodine kills staph " thing I posted go over everyone's head

> here???

>

> ACK

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I feel very protected from MRSA b/c I am iodized. and I have been in a lot

of hospitals lately.

I will let you know if it doesn't work

Gracia

> Sam,

>

> Povidone-iodine (better known as Betadine) is indeed lethal to staph

> that gets mixed in it. So is alcohol. That doesn't mean a drunken bender

> will cure a MRSA infection. Once MRSA gets into your skin, and

> especially as a systemic infection, the iodine or alcohol can't reach it

> at effective levels.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you are right, Gracia.

Roni

Re: Re: MRSA/ New MRSA Bacteria Killer Registered by

EPA (chlorine dioxide)

I feel very protected from MRSA b/c I am iodized. and I have been in a lot

of hospitals lately.

I will let you know if it doesn't work

Gracia

> Sam,

>

> Povidone-iodine (better known as Betadine) is indeed lethal to staph

> that gets mixed in it. So is alcohol. That doesn't mean a drunken bender

> will cure a MRSA infection. Once MRSA gets into your skin, and

> especially as a systemic infection, the iodine or alcohol can't reach it

> at effective levels.

>

>