RE: Re: Homeopathic research

[Guest guest]

Okay.. So do the many thousands taking Synthroid know it's never been

officially approved?

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/article-6268-synthroid-not-fda-approved.h

tml ...

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/synthroidproblems.htm

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From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ]

On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:21 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Homeopathic research

Although that is not Chuck's field I'd be willing to bet he knows vastly

more than 99% of homeopathic practitioners about that field. And very

probably more than the other 1% too.

So it's very hard to test. How convenient. And how disappointing that

NOT ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE TEST has ever shown any benefit above chance or

placebo. If I'm wrong I'm still waiting to see that test. At a glance

the references you provide would not seem to qualify.

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Banta " healthreflection@

<mailto:healthreflection%40fbcom.net> fbcom.net

> <mailto:healthreflection@ <mailto:healthreflection%40fbcom.net>

fbcom.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Homeopathic%20research>

> ieatafa4 <http://profiles. <ieatafa4>

/ieatafa4>

>

>

> Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:16 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Dear Chuck,

>

> IF you truly want to read/study the possibilities of what these remedies

> allow within the human body for intricate healing, you only have to start

> with understanding the basics of what Homeopathy is - in order to

> comprehend

> that these remedies do much more than merely treat 'a symptom'.

>

> Homeopathy is practiced worldwide and is by far less expensive than any

> prescribed USA medication BUT with that said Homeopathy is a much deeper

> study of the entire body, mind and spirit of each individuals needs. Often

> only a single remedy is called for, while others require a combination. So

> to assume a clinical trial on a group will mass produce a cure for each is

> absurd and results are very easily misconstrued.

>

> http://www.wholehea

<http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

lthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html

> <http://www.wholehea

<http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

lthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

>

> http://www.homeopat

<http://www.homeopathy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-ef

f> hy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-eff

> <http://www.homeopat

<http://www.homeopathy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-ef

f> hy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-eff>

> ectiveness/

>

> http://www.life123.

<http://www.life123.com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-an

d> com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-and

> <http://www.life123.

<http://www.life123.com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-an

d> com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-and>

> -fibromyalgia.

> shtml

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would think Chuck would know something about homeopathy b/c some of

the same principles apply. as I am sure you know, the British monarchy

uses alternative medicine and homeopathy.

gracia

wrote:

>

>

> Although that is not Chuck's field I'd be willing to bet he knows vastly

> more than 99% of homeopathic practitioners about that field. And very

> probably more than the other 1% too.

>

> So it's very hard to test. How convenient. And how disappointing that

> NOT ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE TEST has ever shown any benefit above chance or

> placebo. If I'm wrong I'm still waiting to see that test. At a glance

> the references you provide would not seem to qualify.

>

>

> .

> .

>

[Guest guest]

That is totally untrue.

 

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/synthroid1/a/approvedfda.htm

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: Banta <healthreflection@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Homeopathic research

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:25 AM

Okay.. So do the many thousands taking Synthroid know it's never been

officially approved?

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/article-6268-synthroid-not-fda-approved.h

tml ...

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/synthroidproblems.htm

  _____ 

From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ]

On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:21 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Homeopathic research

Although that is not Chuck's field I'd be willing to bet he knows vastly

more than 99% of homeopathic practitioners about that field. And very

probably more than the other 1% too.

So it's very hard to test. How convenient. And how disappointing that

NOT ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE TEST has ever shown any benefit above chance or

placebo. If I'm wrong I'm still waiting to see that test. At a glance

the references you provide would not seem to qualify.

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Banta " healthreflection@

<mailto:healthreflection%40fbcom.net> fbcom.net

> <mailto:healthreflection@ <mailto:healthreflection%40fbcom.net>

fbcom.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Homeopathic%20research>

> ieatafa4 <http://profiles. <ieatafa4>

/ieatafa4>

>

>

> Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:16 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Dear Chuck,

>

> IF you truly want to read/study the possibilities of what these remedies

> allow within the human body for intricate healing, you only have to start

> with understanding the basics of what Homeopathy is - in order to

> comprehend

> that these remedies do much more than merely treat 'a symptom'.

>

> Homeopathy is practiced worldwide and is by far less expensive than any

> prescribed USA medication BUT with that said Homeopathy is a much deeper

> study of the entire body, mind and spirit of each individuals needs. Often

> only a single remedy is called for, while others require a combination. So

> to assume a clinical trial on a group will mass produce a cure for each is

> absurd and results are very easily misconstrued.

>

> http://www.wholehea

<http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

lthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html

> <http://www.wholehea

<http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

lthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/research_1.html>

>

> http://www.homeopat

<http://www.homeopathy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-ef

f> hy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-eff

> <http://www.homeopat

<http://www.homeopathy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-ef

f> hy.ac.nz/articles/scientific-evidence-for-homeopathys-eff>

> ectiveness/

>

> http://www.life123.

<http://www.life123.com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-an

d> com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-and

> <http://www.life123.

<http://www.life123.com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-an

d> com/health/alternative-medicine/homeopathy/homeopathy-and>

> -fibromyalgia.

> shtml

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure it wouldn't make any difference what the British Monarchy uses. They

don't live in the real world. They are isolated from the stresses and strains of

normal people, live in lovely homes, have oodles of money and no worries other

than how they look and who should say what about what. It's like living in a

bubble. Also their genes are from a small gene poole that has seemed to have

stood them in good stead for the last hundred years or so. They are not an

example of anything real.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

>

>

> Although that is not Chuck's field I'd be willing to bet he knows vastly

> more than 99% of homeopathic practitioners about that field. And very

> probably more than the other 1% too.

>

> So it's very hard to test. How convenient. And how disappointing that

> NOT ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE TEST has ever shown any benefit above chance or

> placebo. If I'm wrong I'm still waiting to see that test. At a glance

> the references you provide would not seem to qualify.

>

>

> .

> .

>

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[Guest guest]

,

The FDA approved Synthroid (and many generics) in July of 2002. Before that, it

had tacit approval due to the grandfather clause. It had been in use for many

years before the FDA approval process existed.

> Okay.. So do the many thousands taking Synthroid know it's never been

> officially approved?

I'm guessing there were many thousands of them that knew about the 2002

approval, when you didn't.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I actually had read that before.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

> Actually Roni, if you go to FDA's website, under their 'Orange Book' (all

'patented' drugs are listed there), you'll find there are only 2 doses of

levothyroxine (including Synthroid) that have full FDA approval (250 ug and 300

ug)...

This page lists all doses as approved:

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ob/docs/temptn.cfm

Perhaps the confusion is because Synthroid was never approved.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

>

> .... Bush took many of the controls off of the companies while he was in

office. They

> need to be put back....

That is not exactly correct. Bush's EPA program simply stopped scheduled

retro-fits on older systems. The requirements for new ones were left in

place. There was no retreat on pollution controls, just a postponement

of any advancement, of the extension to in-place plants.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

It seems pretty much the same result to me.

There are more old ones than new ones, and

the pollution continues.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

>

> .... Bush took many of the controls off of the companies while he was in

office. They

> need to be put back....

That is not exactly correct. Bush's EPA program simply stopped scheduled

retro-fits on older systems. The requirements for new ones were left in

place. There was no retreat on pollution controls, just a postponement

of any advancement, of the extension to in-place plants.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

,

Sorry, I meant Synthroid was never patented.

Chuck

>

> ,

>

> You wrote:

>

> > Actually Roni, if you go to FDA's website, under their 'Orange Book'

> (all 'patented' drugs are listed there), you'll find there are only 2

> doses of levothyroxine (including Synthroid) that have full FDA approval

> (250 ug and 300 ug)...

>

> This page lists all doses as approved:

>

> http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ob/docs/temptn.cfm

> <http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ob/docs/temptn.cfm>

>

> Perhaps the confusion is because Synthroid was never approved.

>

> Chuck

>