Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier than other people?

September 10, 2008

Yes it was.

My mom got hers at 11 in the 30s and I got mine in 1969 at 11.

You usually get when your mom did.

My daughter got hers at 11 also.

sue

On 9/10/08 12:06 PM, " Sam " <k9gang@...> wrote:

>

> Perhaps now, but not in the 1950's/60's...

>

> Sam

>

September 10, 2008

When does a girl usually get her first period?

In the United States, the average age is 12. This does not mean that all

girls start at the same age. A girl can start her period anytime between the

ages of eight and 15.

On 9/10/08 12:06 PM, " Sam " <k9gang@...> wrote:

>

> Perhaps now, but not in the 1950's/60's...

>

> Sam

>

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was Ferdinand

> the Bull!),

>>> > > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat, encephalitis

> and spinal

>>> > > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

>>> > > Gracia

>>> > >

>>> > > what were you child's symptoms?

>>> > > i think my 4 year old is hypo...

>>> > > -Ali

>> >

September 10, 2008

I got mine at 11 too in 1965.

Betty

Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

> Yes it was.

>

> My mom got hers at 11 in the 30s and I got mine in 1969 at 11.

>

> You usually get when your mom did.

>

> My daughter got hers at 11 also.

>

> sue

>

September 10, 2008

I'm thinking a person who is in her 70's. Prior to commercialized

meats/milks.

CW

-- Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

I got mine at 11 too in 1965.

Betty

Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

> Yes it was.

>

> My mom got hers at 11 in the 30s and I got mine in 1969 at 11.

>

> You usually get when your mom did.

>

> My daughter got hers at 11 also.

>

> sue

>

September 10, 2008

Welllllll, My mom was born in 26 and she started at 12 yrs old. Her eldest

sister was born in 1914 and she too started at 12. Its sort of like

menopause, there's a long time frame in which we are said to start it - and

at least as long a time frame (in my case any way!!!) as to when it ends!!!

DS

Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

I think you're right that today it's fairly " normal " . But I'm not

altogether convinced it's NATURAL.

...

>

> Posted by: " eastodurango@... "

> eastodurango@...

>

<mailto:eastodurango@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Should%20the%20HypoT%2

0sufferer%20give%20birth%20ealier%20than%20other%20people%3F>

> jesse11111111111 <jesse11111111111>

>

> Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:53 am (PDT)

>

> 11 is not early menses.

> It¹s extremely normal!

>

> sue

>

> On 9/10/08 9:35 AM, " Gracia " <circe@...

> <mailto:circe%40fairpoint.net>> wrote:

>

> >

> > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was Ferdinand the

> Bull!),

> > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat, encephalitis and

> spinal

> > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

> > Gracia

------------------------------------

September 10, 2008

define: ³natural²

On 9/10/08 1:33 PM, " " <res075oh@...> wrote:

>

> I think you're right that today it's fairly " normal " . But I'm not

> altogether convinced it's NATURAL.

>

> .

>

>> >

>> > Posted by: " eastodurango@...

>> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net> "

>> > eastodurango@... <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

>> > <mailto:eastodurango@...

>> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net> <mailto:eastodurango@... >

>> ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Should%20the%20HypoT%20sufferer%20give%20birth%20ealier%2

>> 0than%20other%20people%3F>

>> > jesse11111111111 <jesse11111111111>

>> >

>> > Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:53 am (PDT)

>> >

>> > 11 is not early menses.

>> > It¹s extremely normal!

>> >

>> > sue

>> >

>> > On 9/10/08 9:35 AM, " Gracia " <circe@...

>> <mailto:circe%40fairpoint.net>

>> > <mailto:circe%40fairpoint.net>> wrote:

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was Ferdinand the

>> > Bull!),

>>> > > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat, encephalitis and

>> > spinal

>>> > > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

>>> > > Gracia

>

September 10, 2008

Now we know your age

Sue

On 9/10/08 1:30 PM, " Betty " <bjshamrock@...> wrote:

>

> I got mine at 11 too in 1965.

>

> Betty

>

> Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

> ealier than other people?

>

>> > Yes it was.

>> >

>> > My mom got hers at 11 in the 30s and I got mine in 1969 at 11.

>> >

>> > You usually get when your mom did.

>> >

>> > My daughter got hers at 11 also.

>> >

>> > sue

>> >

>

September 10, 2008

The ³average age² is 8 to 15.

8 + 15 = 23/2=11.5

So anyone who got theirs from ages 8 through 15 are Normal AND Natural.

You can all sleep soundly tonight especially the guys chiming in on this.

ROFL.

sue

On 9/10/08 3:15 PM, " Dusty " <dusty@...> wrote:

>

> Welllllll, My mom was born in 26 and she started at 12 yrs old. Her eldest

> sister was born in 1914 and she too started at 12. Its sort of like

> menopause, there's a long time frame in which we are said to start it - and

> at least as long a time frame (in my case any way!!!) as to when it ends!!!

>

> DS

September 10, 2008

Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now considered at 6

years! I have a friend who works at children's hospital and they are seeing

young kids as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from all the

hormones in the livestock feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had several

patients that experienced precious puberty at 7 years.

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

Perhaps now, but not in the 1950's/60's...

Sam

>

> >

> > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was Ferdinand

the Bull!),

> > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat, encephalitis

and spinal

> > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

> > Gracia

> >

> > what were you child's symptoms?

> > i think my 4 year old is hypo...

> > -Ali

>

September 10, 2008

It depends on when you get your breast buds. Usually menses happens 2 years

after you start budding.

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

16 for me and the rest of my family and around that time for those

that I was in school with, give or take a year or 2.

Sam

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was

Ferdinand

> > the Bull!),

> >>> > > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat,

encephalitis

> > and spinal

> >>> > > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

> >>> > > Gracia

> >>> > >

> >>> > > what were you child's symptoms?

> >>> > > i think my 4 year old is hypo...

> >>> > > -Ali

> >> >

September 10, 2008

Were you skinny as a rail?

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

I played with trucks, frogs, and bugs, climbed trees, dug in the

dirt, played baseball, and was flat as a board and looked like a

little kid all the way thru age 15, until age 16 when I got boobs and

a period all at once. Since I had absolutely no sex education

whatsoever, I thought I was dying. Thank gawd for other teenyboppers

and the girls restroom in high school...

Sam

> > >> >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was

> Ferdinand

> > > the Bull!),

> > >>> > > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat,

> encephalitis

> > > and spinal

> > >>> > > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

> > >>> > > Gracia

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > what were you child's symptoms?

> > >>> > > i think my 4 year old is hypo...

> > >>> > > -Ali

> > >> >

September 10, 2008

> I played kickball, marbles, stickball, roller-skated, fished in the pond,

> collected baseball cards, and sometimes ate dirt. (by mistake)

> but I got my period at 11 and boobsat about 13.

>

> I had no sex ed at all either but I did get the ³kotex kit²

> that was so popular in th 60s. My mom just sorta gave it to

> me and I read the booklet, but scared and waited for that ³time² to start.

>

> what made you think you were dying? The bleeding?

> If so, did you tell anyone at home?

> you had never heard of girls menstruating before you

> got yours at 16 and someone at school told you?

> Did you mom or guardian even know you had a period?

>

> I remember when I told my daughter about getting her period,

> she looked so scared and so brave at the same time. She welled up with tears.

> To be told you are going start bleeding ³down there²

> isn¹t comforting even with ³warning² but I guess it¹s better than just having

> it happen.

>

> sue

>

> From: Sam

> Date: 9/10/2008 7:56:56 PM

> hypothyroidism <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Subject: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

> than other people?

>

> I played with trucks, frogs, and bugs, climbed trees, dug in the

> dirt, played baseball, and was flat as a board and looked like a

> little kid all the way thru age 15, until age 16 when I got boobs and

> a period all at once. Since I had absolutely no sex education

> whatsoever, I thought I was dying. Thank gawd for other teenyboppers

> and the girls restroom in high school...

>

> Sam

>

September 10, 2008

It is true... Plus add environmental toxins

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

I have read speculation [newspaper stories] that children now get such a

quantity of hormones from things like beef that the menses now start

early from that cause. Or perhaps it was in some other manner. If

that is true then I would suggest that early menses caused by

ingestation of hormones fed to livestock are unnatural. Natural menses

would be those not artificially changed, either purposefully or

accidentally, due to the diet of the young lady.

..

>

> Posted by: " eastodurango@... "

> eastodurango@...

> <mailto:eastodurango@earthlink

net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Should%20the%20HypoT%20sufferer%20give%20birth%20ealie

%20than%20other%20people%3F>

> jesse11111111111 <jesse11111111111>

>

> Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:15 pm (PDT)

>

> define: ³natural²

>

> On 9/10/08 1:33 PM, " " <res075oh@...

> <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

>

> >

> > I think you're right that today it's fairly " normal " . But I'm not

> > altogether convinced it's NATURAL.

> >

> > .

> >

> >> >

> >> > Posted by: " eastodurango@...

> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

> >> <mailto:eastodurang

> o%40earthlink.net> "

> >> > eastodurango@... <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

> >> > <mailto:eastodurango@...

> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

> >> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

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> >> > jesse11111111111 <jesse11111111111

> <jesse11111111111>>

> >> >

> >> > Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:53 am (PDT)

> >> >

> >> > 11 is not early menses.

> >> > It¹s extremely normal!

> >> >

> >> > sue

September 10, 2008

Were you thin? Because a low body fat percentage will cause a delayed menses

and boob development. Otherwise it is your genetics.

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

Nope...just a normal kid...same as my sibs and

cousins from both sides.

> > > >> >

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > as a child I was chubby, dreamy (my favorite story was

> > Ferdinand

> > > > the Bull!),

> > > >>> > > frequent infections and antibiotics (strep throat,

> > encephalitis

> > > > and spinal

> > > >>> > > meningitis) constipated, early menses (11yo).

> > > >>> > > Gracia

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > what were you child's symptoms?

> > > >>> > > i think my 4 year old is hypo...

> > > >>> > > -Ali

> > > >> >

September 10, 2008

One book I read had the theory that since anti biotics have been around

the hypothyroid population has exploded. Normally these people would

have historically perished from infections or early heart disease, but

they are now living and having children. They also self select and marry

other hypothyroids (fellow couch potatoes) and have very hypothyroid

children.

One of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism is early menses.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/menstruation.htm

*http://tinyurl.com/5u4yvq

Neil

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> I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses onset has been

> lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then the new average may

> be considered " normal " . But IMHO it's not " natural " .

>

> .

>

>> Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@...

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>> Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)

>>

>> Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now

>> considered at 6

>> years! I have a friend who works at children's hospital and they are

>> seeing

>> young kids as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from

>> all the

>> hormones in the livestock feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had

>> several

>> patients that experienced precious puberty at 7 years.

>>

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September 10, 2008

Agreed. Can you imagine what is like to try and explain to a 6 -8 year old

what a menses is and everything that goes along with that? Little girls

should not be having periods- they should just have to worry about playing,

and having fun.

-- Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth ealier

than other people?

I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses onset has been

lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then the new average may

be considered " normal " . But IMHO it's not " natural " .

..

>

> Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@...

> <mailto:deifspirit@msn

com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Should%20the%20HypoT%20sufferer%20give%20birth%20ealie

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> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>

> Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)

>

> Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now

> considered at 6

> years! I have a friend who works at children's hospital and they are

> seeing

> young kids as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from

> all the

> hormones in the livestock feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had

> several

> patients that experienced precious puberty at 7 years.

September 10, 2008

But, not all kids who get precocious puberty have hypo T. In fact none of

the patients at children's hospital have Hypo T. Plus. My patients did not

have Hypo T.

Nancie

-- Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

One book I read had the theory that since anti biotics have been around

the hypothyroid population has exploded. Normally these people would

have historically perished from infections or early heart disease, but

they are now living and having children. They also self select and marry

other hypothyroids (fellow couch potatoes) and have very hypothyroid

children.

One of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism is early menses.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/menstruation.htm

*http://tinyurl.com/5u4yvq

Neil

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> I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses onset has been

> lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then the new average may

> be considered " normal " . But IMHO it's not " natural " .

>

> .

>

>> Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@...

>> <mailto:deifspirit@msn

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%20than%20other%20people%3F>

>> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>>

>> Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)

>>

>> Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now

>> considered at 6

>> years! I have a friend who works at children's hospital and they are

>> seeing

>> young kids as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from

>> all the

>> hormones in the livestock feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had

>> several

>> patients that experienced precious puberty at 7 years.

>>

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> <p>I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses onset has been

<br>

> lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then the new average may

<br>

> be considered & quot;normal & quot;. But IMHO it's not & quot;natural & quot;

<br>

> <br>

> .<br>

> <br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Posted by: & quot;Nancie Barnett & quot; <a href=

mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com " >deifspiritmsn (DOT) <wbr>com</a><br>

> & gt; & lt;mailto:<a href= " mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com " >deifspirit@msn

<wbr>com</a>?Subject=%20Re%<wbr>3A%20Should%<wbr>20the%20HypoT%<wbr>20suffere

%<wbr>20give%20birth%<wbr>20ealier%<wbr>20than%20other%<wbr>20people%<wbr>3F &

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> & gt; aspenfairy1 & lt;<a href= " aspenfairy1

>http://profiles.<wbr>/<wbr>aspenfairy1</a> & gt;<br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)<br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now <br>

> & gt; considered at 6<br>

> & gt; years! I have a friend who works at children's hospital and they are

<br>

> & gt; seeing<br>

> & gt; young kids as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from

<br>

> & gt; all the<br>

> & gt; hormones in the livestock feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had

<br>

> & gt; several<br>

> & gt; patients that experienced precious puberty at 7 years. <br>

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----- oh! they didn't have hypoT? based on what? TSH? hey that would have

been me, and also why MR peeps do not get treated for congenital hypoT. peeps

with iodine deficiency will have very low TSH b/c the NIS is " asleep " .

Gracia

But, not all kids who get precocious puberty have hypo T. In fact none of

the patients at children's hospital have Hypo T. Plus. My patients did not

have Hypo T.

Nancie

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also endocrine disruptors. early menses is a symptom that the subject is

under stress, so needs to reproduce as soon as possible (b4 expiring!)

Gracia

I have read speculation [newspaper stories] that children now get such a

quantity of hormones from things like beef that the menses now start

early from that cause. Or perhaps it was in some other manner. If

that is true then I would suggest that early menses caused by

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would be those not artificially changed, either purposefully or

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Odd, most of female hypos I know -self inclded - menstruate seldom -

sporadically and sometimes don't without medical intervention. Most are ver

late onset starters - my own case at 14.

DS

Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

One book I read had the theory that since anti biotics have been around the

hypothyroid population has exploded. Normally these people would have

historically perished from infections or early heart disease, but they are

now living and having children. They also self select and marry other

hypothyroids (fellow couch potatoes) and have very hypothyroid children.

One of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism is early menses.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/menstruation.htm

*http://tinyurl.com/5u4yvq

Neil

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> I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses onset has been

> lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then the new average may

> be considered " normal " . But IMHO it's not " natural " .

>

> .

>

>> Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@...

>>

<mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Should%20the%20HypoT%20suffere

r%20give%20birth%20ealier%20than%20other%20people%3F>

>> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>>

>> Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)

>>

>> Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now

>> considered at 6 years! I have a friend who works at children's

>> hospital and they are seeing young kids as young as 6 years old-

>> getting their period. It is from all the hormones in the livestock

>> feed, plus the environmental toxins.I had several patients that

>> experienced precious puberty at 7 years.

>>

>

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> <p>I guess that's what I read too. If the age of menses

> onset has been <br> lowered nationwide from that [or other] cause then

> the new average may <br> be considered & quot;normal & quot;. But IMHO

> it's not & quot;natural & quot;.<br> <br> <br> .<br> .<br> <br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Posted by: & quot;Nancie Barnett & quot; <a

href= " mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com " >deifspiritmsn (DOT) <wbr>com</a><br>

> & gt; & lt;mailto:<a

href= " mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com " >deifspiritmsn (DOT) <wbr>com</a>?Subject=%20Re

%<wbr>3A%20Should%<wbr>20the%20HypoT%<wbr>20sufferer%<wbr>20give%20birth%<wb

r>20ealier%<wbr>20than%20other%<wbr>20people%<wbr>3F & gt;<br>

> & gt; aspenfairy1 & lt;<a

href= " aspenfairy1 " >http://profiles.<wbr>/

<wbr>aspenfairy1</a> & gt;<br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)<br>

> & gt;<br>

> & gt; Early menses now is 9 years old. And precious puberty is now <br>

> & gt; considered at 6<br> & gt; years! I have a friend who works at

> children's hospital and they are <br> & gt; seeing<br> & gt; young kids

> as young as 6 years old- getting their period. It is from <br> & gt;

> all the<br> & gt; hormones in the livestock feed, plus the

> environmental toxins.I had <br> & gt; several<br> & gt; patients that

> experienced precious puberty at 7 years. <br> <br> </p>

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September 11, 2008

Little girls should get age-appropriate information and with-holding it

because you deem it ridiculous is your perogative.

Sure wouldn¹t be fun to be out with your little friends and start bleeding

between your legs with no idea why.

If menses can start at 8 or 9, that¹s when kids need at least the basics.

Nothing heavy duty ‹ just a simple explanation that girls have this happen.

sue

On 9/11/08 12:31 AM, " Nancie Barnett " <deifspirit@...> wrote:

>

> Agreed. Can you imagine what is like to try and explain to a 6 -8 year old

> what a menses is and everything that goes along with that? Little girls

> should not be having periods- they should just have to worry about playing,

> and having fun.

>

> -------Original Message-------

September 11, 2008

HI , do you have a source for your information?

sue

On 9/11/08 12:45 AM, " " <res075oh@...> wrote:

>

> FAIK age 11 may be both normal and natural; although I've read that the

> average has decreased in the past several decades for the reasons I

> recently quoted. I don't really know if the information is accurate.

>

> If the average age has lowered due to artificial hormones or other

> things then age 11 could be [now] normal; but it would not be natural.

>

> .

>

>> >

>> > Posted by: " eastodurango@...

>> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net> "

>> > eastodurango@... <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net>

>> > <mailto:eastodurango@...

>> <mailto:eastodurango%40earthlink.net> <mailto:eastodurango@... >

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>> > jesse11111111111 <jesse11111111111>

>> >

>> > Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:24 pm (PDT)

>> >

>> > The ³average age² is 8 to 15.

>> >

>> > 8 + 15 = 23/2=11.5

>> >

>> > So anyone who got theirs from ages 8 through 15 are Normal AND Natural.

>> > You can all sleep soundly tonight especially the guys chiming in on

>> > this.

>> > ROFL.

>> >

>> > sue

>> >

>> > On 9/10/08 3:15 PM, " Dusty " <dusty@...

>> <mailto:dusty%40brookehurst.net>

>> > <mailto:dusty%40brookehurst.net>> wrote:

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > Welllllll, My mom was born in 26 and she started at 12 yrs old. Her

>> > eldest

>>> > > sister was born in 1914 and she too started at 12. Its sort of like

>>> > > menopause, there's a long time frame in which we are said to start

>> > it - and

>>> > > at least as long a time frame (in my case any way!!!) as to when it

>> > ends!!!

>>> > >

>>> > > DS

>

September 11, 2008

Gracia,

Do you ever treat anything else with anything else?

Do you use iodine for a headache? Do you take armour for a stomach flu?

If you had serious heart problems would you just treat it with armour and

iodine?

I am trying to understand if you are doing whole-body treatment or just

iodine and armour and attribute all ills, ailments and death to

under-treated thryoid?

On 9/11/08 8:36 AM, " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

> ----- oh! they didn't have hypoT? based on what? TSH? hey that would have

> been me, and also why MR peeps do not get treated for congenital hypoT.

> peeps with iodine deficiency will have very low TSH b/c the NIS is " asleep " .

> Gracia

September 11, 2008

I am female hypo, 50 years old, started at 11 and have almost had an exact

28 day cycle,

sue

On 9/11/08 11:01 AM, " Dusty " <dusty@...> wrote:

>

> Odd, most of female hypos I know -self inclded - menstruate seldom -

> sporadically and sometimes don't without medical intervention. Most are ver

> late onset starters - my own case at 14.

>

> DS

>

September 11, 2008

Sue- why are you getting hostile with me? I never stated that I withheld

info from a patients and of course I use age appropriate info! Jeez. And I

NEVER stated I found it " ridiculous! NEVER!

-- Re: Re: Should the HypoT sufferer give birth

ealier than other people?

Little girls should get age-appropriate information and with-holding it

because you deem it ridiculous is your perogative.

Sure wouldn¹t be fun to be out with your little friends and start bleeding

between your legs with no idea why.

If menses can start at 8 or 9, that¹s when kids need at least the basics.

Nothing heavy duty ‹ just a simple explanation that girls have this happen.

sue

On 9/11/08 12:31 AM, " Nancie Barnett " <deifspirit@...> wrote:

>

> Agreed. Can you imagine what is like to try and explain to a 6 -8 year old

> what a menses is and everything that goes along with that? Little girls

> should not be having periods- they should just have to worry about playing

> and having fun.

>

> -------Original Message-------

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