Re: thyro-Lo #455. Was: And it could have bee low thyroid due to

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Hi, Debrah. Comments below...

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> Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:25 am (PDT)

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> Just because something can't be measured doesn't mean that it's not real.

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OTOH if something _can_ be measured you can be pretty sure it is real;

at least in some sense of the word. Generally when something is " real "

it interacts with other objects of " reality " and to some extent at least

can be measured. If a thing is posited that has no interactions with

the physical universe whether it exists or not becomes rather academic.

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> (yang) you have to consider someone else's world view. LIke emotions

> (closest thing i can think of) is a notion that is widely accepted in

> our society, but how do you measure it? By the effects of it? Probably

> similar to the way a " yang deficiency " is measured.

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In the early days of medicine western doctors thought that health

depended upon the balance of four humours [or " humors " ]: Black bile,

yellow bile, phlegm and blood. Eastern medicine thought that health

depended upon the balance of yin and yang [and the Five Agents. It's a

bit more complicated than that]. The existence of germs was unknown.

In the modern world [whether eastern or western] these primitive posits

have been replaced by scientific and medical knowledge about how the

body actually works. A world view based upon measurable facts is going

to be different from one based upon unfounded superstition. If you have

a serious bacterial infection you're more likely to benefit from the

appropriate antibiotic than from blood letting.

Emotions or psychological states have been extensively studied. But as

with all science/medicine no one has all the answers.

As I've repeatedly mentioned: My world view is generally in accord with

modern science and allopathic medicine, and that needs to be taken into

account in evaluating my posts.

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> And how can there be " no cure " to hypothyroidism when people have in

> fact been cured of it?

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Spontaneous remissions occur with AFAIK all illnesses; but there is no

known cure. If there were we would all take that and not have to take

synthroid anymore.

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> Debrah

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> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:25:30 -0400

> Subject: " thyro-Lo #455 " . Was: And it could have bee

> low thyroid due to iodine deficiency all a

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> Never heard of it, but Google is helpful. In traditional Chinese

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> medication it supposedly treats for Yang deficiency. Since Yang

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> deficiency has never been demonstrated in any credible study [heck,

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> AFAIK even the existence of Yang has never been established] it's not

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> likely to rate higher than chance or placebo in any quality research.

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> Basically from the viewpoint of science and Western allopathic medicine

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> it WILL NOT treat you for hypothyroidism. If your thyroid does not

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> produce sufficient T4/T3 to keep you alive you will sicken and die

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> unless you replace them. And this concoction DOES NOT replace them.

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> Luck,

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Sure, based upon our present expertise. But it's at least possible to

develop a future " cure " if we are ever able to learn enough about

genetics and DNA to grow a new thyroid gland. That may seem far fetched

[and today it is] but it may not always be.

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> Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:53 pm (PDT)

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> there actually can't be a actual cure for it, since in order to

> control it you have to take replacement thyroid hormones for the rest

> of your life. A cure implies that one doesn't have to take ANY

> medicine or treatment for the specific condition or disease.

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> From: Debrah Galloway

> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:23 AM

> Hypothyroidism

> Subject: RE: " thyro-Lo #455 " . Was: And it could have

> bee low thyroid due to iodine deficiency all a

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> Just because something can't be measured doesn't mean that it's not

> real. (yang) you have to consider someone else's world view. LIke

> emotions (closest thing i can think of) is a notion that is widely

> accepted in our society, but how do you measure it? By the effects of

> it? Probably similar to the way a " yang deficiency " is measured.

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> And how can there be " no cure " to hypothyroidism when people have in

> fact been cured of it?

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> Debrah