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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

 

I can appreciate your point of view.  

 

For you the point might be to treat the symptoms, but not for me.

 

Think of having an abscess on a tooth causing pain and just taking pain killers

to treat the symptom.  I rather treat the abscess, and get rid of the pain that

way.  Moreover, in this case I would try to find out what caused the abscess to

begin with.  If I can find out what has caused this abscess, then I'll be able

to prevent other abscesses in the future.

 

I personally prefer to treat the cause of a symptom. For me treating the symptom

while leaving the cause unchallenged is perpetuating the problem and perhaps

adding another problem due to drugs side effects.  It's just putting a band aid

on it.  What ever is causing the problem can continue to create more problems. 

For what I've been reading in this group, there seem to be lots of people here

with multiple health problems and their approach to feeling better is to take

more meds to " quiet down " their symptoms and in many cases this seems

unsuccessfull.

 

I understand that finding the cause for a health problem might be sometimes

difficult, but with a medical system trained to treat symptoms and sell drugs

its not hard to see why.  I read in this group that doctors don't even listen to

their patients, they just prescribe.  So I sincerely doubt most of those doctors

will take the time and effort to go look for why a given patients thyroid is

malfunctioning.  I've been reading this group's posts for three months now and I

don't remember reading anyone talking about why their thyroids

malfunction nor what can be done to prevent it.  I'm sure there are multiple

reasons why thyroids go awry, just like with any other organ disease.

 

, this is my way of thinking, and the way some other people think.  I'm

not saying that anyone should approach their treatment this way.  I'm only

saying than there are, and there should be  " alternatives " . 

We all have a right to express our way of thinking and try to find out from

others, who might help us with more information.  I believe we can discuss

more than doses here.

 

I hope a better solution for everyone here can be found.  A better solution,

like a cure.

 

Some people seem to think that ALL thyroids can not become healthy again once

they've malfunctioned.  They have the right to believe that.  I have the right

to believe otherwise, don't I? 

 Om shanti, namaste.

[Guest guest]

,

No offense, but with your philosophy if you stepped on a rusty nail are you

going to spend time trying to find out WHY you stepped on the rusty nail or

are you going to treat your wound FIRST?

Sometimes we have to treat the symptoms to get relief and prevent more

damage and then if you are so inclined, seek the reason behind your illness

or ailment.

For example at age 10, my daughter was diagnosed with SEVERE (2 65 degree

curves) Scoliosis. Of course I wanted to know WHY it happened and in fact I

am writing a book about her medical ordeal from a mom¹s point of view, but

my first instinct was to FIX it, HELP her and use medical science available

to TREAT her and stop further damage.

Had I just looked for a cause, she would have continued to twist and

eventually her lungs and heart would have been compromised.

Back to thyroid, there are several causes and type of hypoT.

Sue

Hashimoto's thyroiditis is a condition resulting from a problem in the

body's immune system.

It is the most common cause of hypothyroidism.

The immune system is a complex network that normally defends the body

against " invading " organisms and other foreign substances. When the immune

system detects a foreign substance in the body, it responds to this by

producing antibodies against the invaders. These antibodies will recognize

and attack this foreign substance when they next encounter

In Hashimoto's thyroiditis the immune system mistakenly directs an immune

" attack " against its own healthy cells. Antibodies are manufactured and

misdirected against the thyroid gland.

Any condition in which the body's immune system attacks its own cells is

called an auto-immune disease.

Inflammation associated with the abnormal immune response causes continuing

loss of thyroid cells. Eventually, this loss in function (which may take

months or even years) reaches the level where there is insufficient thyroid

hormone to minimally support body function, and the person develops the

symptoms of hypothyroidism.

Hashimoto's thyroiditis is more common in women than in men (roughly 7 to

1), and it typically develops in women over age 40 years. It may be much

more common than previously thought in older adults. Studies have indicated

that up to 15 percent of women over age 60 years have evidence of mild

hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

Because genetic factors can make someone vulnerable to developing autoimmune

disease, it is not uncommon for persons with Hashimoto's thyroiditis to have

a history of other autoimmune disorders, including Graves' disease (another

thyroid disorder that causes an overactive thyroid gland), juvenile diabetes

mellitus, pernicious anemia, or the skin disorder vitiligo.

Subacute Thyroiditis

Subacute thyroiditis is an inflammatory thyroid condition of unclear origin.

It usually causes only temporary and mild hypothyroidism - that is, it

produces a relatively less serious form of hypothyroidism that goes away on

its own.

Subacute thyroiditis is an uncommon disorder that can occur in men or women

of any age. The characteristic inflammation in the thyroid often follows an

upper respiratory infection, and patients often come to a doctor's attention

because of noticeable and painful enlargement of the thyroid gland.

Postpartum Thyroiditis

Postpartum thyroiditis means inflammation of the thyroid following

pregnancy, (from post, meaning " after, " and partum, meaning " birth " ). It

occurs in the first six months after delivery in about 5% to 9% of women.

Typical symptoms relate to an initial phase of hyperthyroidism (with

symptoms of rapid heart rate, increased sweating, nervousness) and a later

phase of hypothyroidism (with fatigue, dry skin, feeling cold, depression).

Studies have shown that 80% to 90% or more of affected women had detectable

levels before or during their pregnancies of antibodies directed against the

thyroid gland.

In up to 5% of women, this can cause inflammation of the thyroid up to 12

months after the delivery.

Roughly 20% to 33% of the women who develop postpartum thyroiditis will have

permanent hypothyroidism.

Almost one-third of women with hypothyroidism due to postpartum thyroiditis

develop mild to moderate depression after pregnancy.

Problems In The Pituitary Gland

Hypothyroidism can also develop due to a problem in other parts of the

thyroid hormone production line (namely the brain or pituitary gland). These

cases of hypothyroidism, which do not originate in the thyroid gland, are

much less common (perhaps 5%), and almost all of these cases are due to

failure of the pituitary gland to produce or release the hormone TSH, which

is responsible for stimulating the production of thyroid hormone in the

thyroid gland. Diagnostic blood testing shows low levels of T3 and T4

thyroid hormones, low or absent TSH, and absence of the antithyroid

antibodies characteristic of Hashimoto's thyroiditis, the commonest cause of

hypothyroidism.

On 8/15/08 11:02 PM, " maria perez " <khusha8@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hey ,

>  

> I can appreciate your point of view.  

>  

> For you the point might be to treat the symptoms, but not for me.

>  

> Think of having an abscess on a tooth causing pain and just taking pain

> killers to treat the symptom.  I rather treat the abscess, and get rid of

> the pain that way.  Moreover, in this case I would try to find out what caused

> the abscess to begin with.  If I can find out what has caused this abscess,

> then I'll be able to prevent other abscesses in the future.

>  

> I personally prefer to treat the cause of a symptom. For me treating the

> symptom while leaving the cause unchallenged is perpetuating the problem and

> perhaps adding another problem due to drugs side effects.  It's just putting a

> band aid on it.  What ever is causing the problem can continue to create more

> problems.  For what I've been reading in this group, there seem to be lots of

> people here with multiple health problems and their approach to feeling better

> is to take more meds to " quiet down " their symptoms and in many cases this

> seems unsuccessfull.

>  

> I understand that finding the cause for a health problem might be sometimes

> difficult, but with a medical system trained to treat symptoms and sell drugs

> its not hard to see why.  I read in this group that doctors don't even listen

> to their patients, they just prescribe.  So I sincerely doubt most of those

> doctors will take the time and effort to go look for why a given patients

> thyroid is malfunctioning.  I've been reading this group's posts for three

> months now and I don't remember reading anyone talking about why their

> thyroids malfunction nor what can be done to prevent it.  I'm sure there

> are multiple reasons why thyroids go awry, just like with any other organ

> disease.

>  

> , this is my way of thinking, and the way some other people think.  I'm

> not saying that anyone should approach their treatment this way.  I'm only

> saying than there are, and there should be  " alternatives " . 

> We all have a right to express our way of thinking and try to find out from

> others, who might help us with more information.  I believe we can discuss

> more than doses here.

>  

> I hope a better solution for everyone here can be found.  A better solution,

> like a cure.

>  

> Some people seem to think that ALL thyroids can not become healthy again once

> they've malfunctioned.  They have the right to believe that.  I have the right

> to believe otherwise, don't I? 

>  Om shanti, namaste.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to add sumfin here. I think we may have all started out this way.

We assume that there is something we can personally do to heal our thyroid.

I know that I did. I did not give up hope that my thyroid will be full

functioning again, however, in the meantime my wisdom tells me that until

the day comes that my thyroid is healed, that I should treat my body with a

form of hormone that my body needs. I know personally someone who had

hashimoto's and was completely healed. She takes no hormones for her

thyroid and her tests are normal and she feels great! So, when GRACIA says

to treat by symptoms she means not to follow the docs advice. Trust me if

GRACIA had a cheaper, quicker way of dealing with thyroid she would!

CW

-- Alternative/symptoms/

Hey ,

I can appreciate your point of view.

For you the point might be to treat the symptoms, but not for me.

Think of having an abscess on a tooth causing pain and just taking pain

killers to treat the symptom. I rather treat the abscess, and get rid of

the pain that way. Moreover, in this case I would try to find out what

caused the abscess to begin with. If I can find out what has caused this

abscess, then I'll be able to prevent other abscesses in the future.

I personally prefer to treat the cause of a symptom. For me treating the

symptom while leaving the cause unchallenged is perpetuating the problem and

perhaps adding another problem due to drugs side effects. It's just putting

a band aid on it. What ever is causing the problem can continue to create

more problems. For what I've been reading in this group, there seem to be

lots of people here with multiple health problems and their approach to

feeling better is to take more meds to " quiet down " their symptoms and in

many cases this seems unsuccessfull.

I understand that finding the cause for a health problem might be sometimes

difficult, but with a medical system trained to treat symptoms and sell

drugs its not hard to see why. I read in this group that doctors don't even

listen to their patients, they just prescribe. So I sincerely doubt most of

those doctors will take the time and effort to go look for why a given

patients thyroid is malfunctioning. I've been reading this group's posts

for three months now and I don't remember reading anyone talking about why

their thyroids malfunction nor what can be done to prevent it. I'm sure

there are multiple reasons why thyroids go awry, just like with any other

organ disease.

, this is my way of thinking, and the way some other people think. I

m not saying that anyone should approach their treatment this way. I'm only

saying than there are, and there should be " alternatives " .

We all have a right to express our way of thinking and try to find out from

others, who might help us with more information. I believe we can discuss

more than doses here.

I hope a better solution for everyone here can be found. A better solution,

like a cure.

Some people seem to think that ALL thyroids can not become healthy again

once they've malfunctioned. They have the right to believe that. I have

the right to believe otherwise, don't I?

Om shanti, namaste.

[Guest guest]

hi

hey my name is GRAcia not GARcia ))

my POV is actually alternative. if I had been given iodine in childhood when

I had hypo symptoms I could have been spared m a lifetime of misery and partial

thyroidectomy at age 22. Iodine is discussed ad infinitum here--have you

noticed? also needing thyroid hormone is not a bandaid--it's a hormone that my

body cannot make.

om shanti

Gracia

Hey ,

I can appreciate your point of view.

For you the point might be to treat the symptoms, but not for me.

Think of having an abscess on a tooth causing pain and just taking pain

killers to treat the symptom. I rather treat the abscess, and get rid of the

pain that way. Moreover, in this case I would try to find out what caused the

abscess to begin with. If I can find out what has caused this abscess, then

I'll be able to prevent other abscesses in the future.

I personally prefer to treat the cause of a symptom. For me treating the

symptom while leaving the cause unchallenged is perpetuating the problem and

perhaps adding another problem due to drugs side effects. It's just putting a

band aid on it. What ever is causing the problem can continue to create more

problems. For what I've been reading in this group, there seem to be lots of

people here with multiple health problems and their approach to feeling better

is to take more meds to " quiet down " their symptoms and in many cases this seems

unsuccessfull.

I understand that finding the cause for a health problem might be sometimes

difficult, but with a medical system trained to treat symptoms and sell drugs

its not hard to see why. I read in this group that doctors don't even listen to

their patients, they just prescribe. So I sincerely doubt most of those doctors

will take the time and effort to go look for why a given patients thyroid is

malfunctioning. I've been reading this group's posts for three months now and I

don't remember reading anyone talking about why their thyroids malfunction nor

what can be done to prevent it. I'm sure there are multiple reasons why

thyroids go awry, just like with any other organ disease.

, this is my way of thinking, and the way some other people think. I'm

not saying that anyone should approach their treatment this way. I'm only

saying than there are, and there should be " alternatives " .

We all have a right to express our way of thinking and try to find out from

others, who might help us with more information. I believe we can discuss more

than doses here.

I hope a better solution for everyone here can be found. A better solution,

like a cure.

Some people seem to think that ALL thyroids can not become healthy again once

they've malfunctioned. They have the right to believe that. I have the right

to believe otherwise, don't I?

Om shanti, namaste.