Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

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this is really bad--allopathic medicine at it's worst. they completely

disregard adrenals, adequate thyroid treatment, hormones. and iodine.

I know someone who just had surgery for MRSA!!

I heard of a 32 yo woman who has had heart bypass surgery and has now had a

heart attack.

Gracia

There are many different things that can cause heart palpitations. Some

people have extra areas in the heart where nerve centers trigger a

signal for extra pulses. These centers can be destroyed by something

like a laser inserted into a vein and run into the heart. But it is

very delicate work. My nephew has this condition and when he went in

for the surgery the surgeon found that the extra impulse center was so

close to the main one that it would be very risky to destroy it for fear

of damaging the main one. So he has to take medication, as I do.

My heart doctor has suggested the surgery, but he also mentioned a small

but none zero probability of problems [such as death] so I haven't been

really enthusiastic about having it. The calcium blocker seems to work

well and pretty much AFAIK has no detectable side effects.

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Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is infected with

MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean out the

wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused by the MRSA

You do know that your ignorance [ about certain things] is showing...

As far as the cardiac surgery patient; if she had to have bypass surgery she

had severe CAD aka coronary artery disease with a blockage or blockages of

the coronary arteries that supply the heart with blood flow and oxygen!

SO, if she had a MI after the procedure- that is a common complication

caused by her severe heart disease. Hopefully it was minor one and she will

recover completely.

Again, your complete lack of medical education is glowing!

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

this is really bad--allopathic medicine at it's worst. they completely

disregard adrenals, adequate thyroid treatment, hormones. and iodine.

I know someone who just had surgery for MRSA!!

I heard of a 32 yo woman who has had heart bypass surgery and has now had a

heart attack.

Gracia

There are many different things that can cause heart palpitations. Some

people have extra areas in the heart where nerve centers trigger a

signal for extra pulses. These centers can be destroyed by something

like a laser inserted into a vein and run into the heart. But it is

very delicate work. My nephew has this condition and when he went in

for the surgery the surgeon found that the extra impulse center was so

close to the main one that it would be very risky to destroy it for fear

of damaging the main one. So he has to take medication, as I do.

My heart doctor has suggested the surgery, but he also mentioned a small

but none zero probability of problems [such as death] so I haven't been

really enthusiastic about having it. The calcium blocker seems to work

well and pretty much AFAIK has no detectable side effects.

>

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BTW, MRSA (aka Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) can be

most effectively treated successfully with iodine (topically, inhaled

in vapor, intravenous, and/or ingested).

Sam

>

> Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

infected with

> MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean

out the

> wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused by

the MRSA

>

> You do know that your ignorance [ about certain things] is

showing...

> As far as the cardiac surgery patient; if she had to have bypass

surgery she

> had severe CAD aka coronary artery disease with a blockage or

blockages of

> the coronary arteries that supply the heart with blood flow and

oxygen!

> SO, if she had a MI after the procedure- that is a common

complication

> caused by her severe heart disease. Hopefully it was minor one and

she will

> recover completely.

> Again, your complete lack of medical education is glowing!

>

>

> -- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

>

> this is really bad--allopathic medicine at it's worst. they

completely

> disregard adrenals, adequate thyroid treatment, hormones. and

iodine.

> I know someone who just had surgery for MRSA!!

> I heard of a 32 yo woman who has had heart bypass surgery and has

now had a

> heart attack.

> Gracia

>

> There are many different things that can cause heart palpitations.

Some

> people have extra areas in the heart where nerve centers trigger a

> signal for extra pulses. These centers can be destroyed by

something

> like a laser inserted into a vein and run into the heart. But it is

> very delicate work. My nephew has this condition and when he went

in

> for the surgery the surgeon found that the extra impulse center was

so

> close to the main one that it would be very risky to destroy it for

fear

> of damaging the main one. So he has to take medication, as I do.

>

> My heart doctor has suggested the surgery, but he also mentioned a

small

> but none zero probability of problems [such as death] so I haven't

been

> really enthusiastic about having it. The calcium blocker seems to

work

> well and pretty much AFAIK has no detectable side effects.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe in your world, but not in the world of medicine...

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

>

> this is really bad--allopathic medicine at it's worst. they

completely

> disregard adrenals, adequate thyroid treatment, hormones. and

iodine.

> I know someone who just had surgery for MRSA!!

> I heard of a 32 yo woman who has had heart bypass surgery and has

now had a

> heart attack.

> Gracia

>

> There are many different things that can cause heart palpitations.

Some

> people have extra areas in the heart where nerve centers trigger a

> signal for extra pulses. These centers can be destroyed by

something

> like a laser inserted into a vein and run into the heart. But it is

> very delicate work. My nephew has this condition and when he went

in

> for the surgery the surgeon found that the extra impulse center was

so

> close to the main one that it would be very risky to destroy it for

fear

> of damaging the main one. So he has to take medication, as I do.

>

> My heart doctor has suggested the surgery, but he also mentioned a

small

> but none zero probability of problems [such as death] so I haven't

been

> really enthusiastic about having it. The calcium blocker seems to

work

> well and pretty much AFAIK has no detectable side effects.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

this is so true! there is a paralell medical world on the internet.

Gracia

Maybe in your world, but not in the world of medicine...

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BTW, MRSA (aka Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) can be

most effectively treated successfully with iodine (topically, inhaled

in vapor, intravenous, and/or ingested).

Sam

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it sure doesn't seem like a good idea to me, to chase MRSA around in the body

with surgery and huge doses of antibiotics. in this case the anitbiotics

haven't been working too well, and the prognosis isn't very good. she shouldn't

be put on high dose iodine though, b/c it's " dangerous " . yikes.

I won't even go into the poor 32 yo woman, b/c my lack of medical education

would really be glowing LOL!

Gracia

Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is infected with

MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean out the

wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused by the MRSA

You do know that your ignorance [ about certain things] is showing...

As far as the cardiac surgery patient; if she had to have bypass surgery she

had severe CAD aka coronary artery disease with a blockage or blockages of

the coronary arteries that supply the heart with blood flow and oxygen!

SO, if she had a MI after the procedure- that is a common complication

caused by her severe heart disease. Hopefully it was minor one and she will

recover completely.

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Yea, it's astounding, and saddening, that iodine is no longer

regularly used to treat staph. Before they invented all that stuff

that doesn't work on it, iodine was used regularly. As a matter of

fact, my mother (labor/delivery) and a few siblngs (at birth) were

treated for staph using iodine, but that was in the 1950's/60's.

It's freaky to think what might have happened to them if that

happened in this day and age...I'd probably be a motherless only

child instead the oldest of 6...

Sam

(I'm from a doctor family)

> >

> > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> infected with

> > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean

> out the

> > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused

by

> the MRSA

>

[Guest guest]

Sam,

You wrote:

> BTW, MRSA (aka Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) can be

> most effectively treated successfully with iodine (topically, inhaled

> in vapor, intravenous, and/or ingested).

We are still waiting for you to post a single credible source for this claim,

since the last time you made it.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Better yet, Chuck, why don't you try

to prove that it doesn't work.

Sam

>

> > BTW, MRSA (aka Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) can

be

> > most effectively treated successfully with iodine (topically,

inhaled

> > in vapor, intravenous, and/or ingested).

>

> We are still waiting for you to post a single credible source for

this claim, since the last time you made it.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

But that parallel universe is populated with creatures who breathe [or

at least excrete] copious quantities of iodine! [gg]

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20heart%20palpitations%2E%20%20Was%\

3A%20%20For%20Venizia>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:53 am (PDT)

>

>

> this is so true! there is a paralell medical world on the internet.

> Gracia

>

> Maybe in your world, but not in the world of medicine...

>

> -- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

> BTW, MRSA (aka Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) can be

> most effectively treated successfully with iodine (topically, inhaled

> in vapor, intravenous, and/or ingested).

>

> Sam

[Guest guest]

Sam-

That is a different kind of iodine preparation that other ingredients in it

as well and the STAPH that existed back then was NOT MRSA. Do you even know

the orgins of MRSA?? It developed over years from indiscriminate use of

antibiotics and the bacteria mutated over YEARS and developed into the

monster we have today. A monster that has left the hospital world and

entered into the community. It was bad enough when it was only in the

hospitals- but the bacteria has mutated more and gotten stronger and smarter

than we are. Unfortunately we have created a superbug that is extremely hard

to treat let alone eradicate. Your physician family member should know that.

Unless they haven't kept up with current infectious diseases.

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

Yea, it's astounding, and saddening, that iodine is no longer

regularly used to treat staph. Before they invented all that stuff

that doesn't work on it, iodine was used regularly. As a matter of

fact, my mother (labor/delivery) and a few siblngs (at birth) were

treated for staph using iodine, but that was in the 1950's/60's.

It's freaky to think what might have happened to them if that

happened in this day and age...I'd probably be a motherless only

child instead the oldest of 6...

Sam

(I'm from a doctor family)

> >

> > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> infected with

> > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean

> out the

> > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused

by

> the MRSA

>

[Guest guest]

, most of my family are (or were) doctors, RNs, ARNPs,

radiologists, anesthesiologiests, pediatricians, etc etc...

I said I was from a doctor family.

MRSA is still staphylococcus, a single cell bacteria. There are a

number of types of staphylococcus and all of them are single cell

bacteria, and respond to inorganic iodine treatment because of

that.... There are many types of bacteria normally present on human

skin...and so what would you guess surgical areas are mopped with

before cutting...take a wild guess...

Rather than arguing/debating, perhaps it would benefit your education

(and certain patients you might see in the future) to learn more

about inorganic iodine...if you haven't studied the old school (and

recent) info about it, you have absolutely no idea what it does in

given situations (I'm not talking about the iodine-is-deadly BS).

I seriously thought it was just another f'tard supplement at first,

but then I started reading, and 'not' with an open mind, and I

started learning, and then reading everything I could get my hands

on, and my eyes opened wide.

But, whatever...

Sam

> > >

> > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > infected with

> > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

clean

> > out the

> > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

caused

> by

> > the MRSA

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, we don't chase around the internal cavity with antibiotics. We IRRIGATE

the area with antibiotic called VANCOMYCIN; normal saline and clean out the

infected tissue. Then we close up the area, leave a drain in; and put them

on IV vancomycin- which is the only antibiotic that can kill MRSA.

Oh I see you would let the 32 year old women keep her blocked coronary

arteries that are depriving her of much needed oxygen so that she can

eventually have a massive heart attack that would have causes irreparable

damage to her heart and then have her die from it- how nice and thoughtful

of you- be sure and tell her family why you thought she shouldn't have had

the surgery- I am sure they will be thrilled for your " expert medical advice

.. LOL

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

it sure doesn't seem like a good idea to me, to chase MRSA around in the

body with surgery and huge doses of antibiotics. in this case the

anitbiotics haven't been working too well, and the prognosis isn't very good

she shouldn't be put on high dose iodine though, b/c it's " dangerous " .

yikes.

I won't even go into the poor 32 yo woman, b/c my lack of medical education

would really be glowing LOL!

Gracia

Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is infected with

MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to clean out the

wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is caused by the MRSA

You do know that your ignorance [ about certain things] is showing...

As far as the cardiac surgery patient; if she had to have bypass surgery she

had severe CAD aka coronary artery disease with a blockage or blockages of

the coronary arteries that supply the heart with blood flow and oxygen!

SO, if she had a MI after the procedure- that is a common complication

caused by her severe heart disease. Hopefully it was minor one and she will

recover completely.

Again, your complete lack of medical education is glowing!

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Eyes rolling....

The surgical scrub is pvovoidine which is AGAIN NOT PURE iodine. BTW MRSA

is immune to betadine. It does not kill that mutated organism. Plus, all

those staph cells on your body that live peacefully on your skin are not

MRSA either. Otherwise you would be getting a rash every where all the time.

MRSA is unique. It IS A super bug that has withstood toxic chemicals in

the hospital that kill every other bacteria and virus- it is on the same

level as psuedomonus which is another super bug. That bug causes green slime

to ooze from the body's pores and orifices...

So, as you say whatever... I just hope you don't get MRSA- because you will

be shocked when your iodine doesn't kill it and you end up in hospital

fighting for your life....

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, most of my family are (or were) doctors, RNs, ARNPs,

radiologists, anesthesiologiests, pediatricians, etc etc...

I said I was from a doctor family.

MRSA is still staphylococcus, a single cell bacteria. There are a

number of types of staphylococcus and all of them are single cell

bacteria, and respond to inorganic iodine treatment because of

that.... There are many types of bacteria normally present on human

skin...and so what would you guess surgical areas are mopped with

before cutting...take a wild guess...

Rather than arguing/debating, perhaps it would benefit your education

(and certain patients you might see in the future) to learn more

about inorganic iodine...if you haven't studied the old school (and

recent) info about it, you have absolutely no idea what it does in

given situations (I'm not talking about the iodine-is-deadly BS).

I seriously thought it was just another f'tard supplement at first,

but then I started reading, and 'not' with an open mind, and I

started learning, and then reading everything I could get my hands

on, and my eyes opened wide.

But, whatever...

Sam

> > >

> > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > infected with

> > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

clean

> > out the

> > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

caused

> by

> > the MRSA

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sam-

Can you provide any credible peer reviewed research articles, any at all?

BUT NOT any from optimox which is not credible because it does not have any

peer reviewed research.

The reason why peer reviewed is so important is that we use evidence based

medicine that is based on such research to practice medicine- something that

your family members should know about.

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

, most of my family are (or were) doctors, RNs, ARNPs,

radiologists, anesthesiologiests, pediatricians, etc etc...

I said I was from a doctor family.

MRSA is still staphylococcus, a single cell bacteria. There are a

number of types of staphylococcus and all of them are single cell

bacteria, and respond to inorganic iodine treatment because of

that.... There are many types of bacteria normally present on human

skin...and so what would you guess surgical areas are mopped with

before cutting...take a wild guess...

Rather than arguing/debating, perhaps it would benefit your education

(and certain patients you might see in the future) to learn more

about inorganic iodine...if you haven't studied the old school (and

recent) info about it, you have absolutely no idea what it does in

given situations (I'm not talking about the iodine-is-deadly BS).

I seriously thought it was just another f'tard supplement at first,

but then I started reading, and 'not' with an open mind, and I

started learning, and then reading everything I could get my hands

on, and my eyes opened wide.

But, whatever...

Sam

> > >

> > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > infected with

> > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

clean

> > out the

> > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

caused

> by

> > the MRSA

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What's the matter with you? Iodine used to be commonly used for all

sorts of things before all that new bs that doesn't work well was

created.

No, sweetie, your the one who needs to prove it doesn't work on that

which I stated.

> > > >

> > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > infected with

> > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> clean

> > > out the

> > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> caused

> > by

> > > the MRSA

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The burden of proof is on you- since you believe it works...

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What's the matter with you? Iodine used to be commonly used for all

sorts of things before all that new bs that doesn't work well was

created.

No, sweetie, your the one who needs to prove it doesn't work on that

which I stated.

> > > >

> > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > infected with

> > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> clean

> > > out the

> > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> caused

> > by

> > > the MRSA

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm not posting this to argue with either one of you, but I had a MRSA

that was one of the most frightening things that has ever happened to

me. I was in the hospital for my angiogram, and a couple of days later

at home I got something that looked like a small " zit " on my leg. It was

a normal looking very small whitehead, so I washed it good and squeezed

it. I thought nothing of it, but in the next 24 hours it started getting

hot and growing like crazy. Within two days it was the size of a walnut.

I went to my doctor, he sent me right to the ER since I had just gotten

out of the hospital and he viewed me as a risk.

By the time they saw me that afternoon in the ER it was the size of a

golf ball and it felt red hot and HURT bad. They admitted me to the

hospital for three days and I was on bags of I.V's with some hard core

anti biotics. Everyone, including nurses, that came into my room had to

wear suits that looked like the Moon landing. And twice a day they had

to clean it out, it was DEEP. They had to pack it with a wick so it

would heal from the inside out.

I hope I never have that again! I picked it up from the

hospital.....still another reason the hospital is NO place you want to be.

Neil

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>

> The burden of proof is on you- since you believe it works...

>

> -- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

> What's the matter with you? Iodine used to be commonly used for all

> sorts of things before all that new bs that doesn't work well was

> created.

>

> No, sweetie, your the one who needs to prove it doesn't work on that

> which I stated.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > > infected with

> > > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> > clean

> > > > out the

> > > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> > caused

> > > by

> > > > the MRSA

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yep, that is MRSA. Not something you want to mess with. I am so happy that

you are ok, now.

Nancie

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

> What's the matter with you? Iodine used to be commonly used for all

> sorts of things before all that new bs that doesn't work well was

> created.

>

> No, sweetie, your the one who needs to prove it doesn't work on that

> which I stated.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > > infected with

> > > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> > clean

> > > > out the

> > > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> > caused

> > > by

> > > > the MRSA

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

That's where my mother (numberous times) and

newly born sibs also acquired staph.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > > > infected with

> > > > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage

to

> > > clean

> > > > > out the

> > > > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> > > caused

> > > > by

> > > > > the MRSA

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I don't " believe " it works, I know it does, and it's not me, it's all

those darn medical books from years past... Really, the ball is in

your corner. I suspect you won't be able to prove iodine is not

effective on staphylococcus aureus bacteria. Hopefully you'll learn

something while you're trying to refute what I've said.

Again, MRSA is staphylococcus aureus that is resistant to certain

antibiotics including the " cillins " . Now if it was called IRSA

(iodine resistent s. aureus), then I'd sit right straight up in my

saddle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > > infected with

> > > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> > clean

> > > > out the

> > > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> > caused

> > > by

> > > > the MRSA

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I just don't understand why you can't get it- MRSA is a superbug that has

mutated [ it is NOT at all similar anymore to the non-lethal forms of staph

aureus] to the point where nothing short of Vancomycin IV will work to kill

it.

So, I guess we will have to agree to disagree...

-- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

I don't " believe " it works, I know it does, and it's not me, it's all

those darn medical books from years past... Really, the ball is in

your corner. I suspect you won't be able to prove iodine is not

effective on staphylococcus aureus bacteria. Hopefully you'll learn

something while you're trying to refute what I've said.

Again, MRSA is staphylococcus aureus that is resistant to certain

antibiotics including the " cillins " . Now if it was called IRSA

(iodine resistent s. aureus), then I'd sit right straight up in my

saddle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, gracia. If a patient has an infected wound and it is

> > > > infected with

> > > > > MRSA -we often to do " surgery " aka incision and drainage to

> > clean

> > > > out the

> > > > > wound with antibiotics and to remove all the crud that is

> > caused

> > > by

> > > > the MRSA

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=271835

http://www.springerlink.com/content/c47158353m07j733/

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200606/000020060606A0084390.php

http://tinyurl.com/6atsh7

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=1681471

There's lots more...just google with the words: mrsa iodine

>

> I just don't understand why you can't get it- MRSA is a superbug

that has

> mutated [ it is NOT at all similar anymore to the non-lethal forms

of staph

> aureus] to the point where nothing short of Vancomycin IV will

work to kill

> it.

> So, I guess we will have to agree to disagree...

>

> -- Re: heart palpitations. Was: For Venizia

>

> I don't " believe " it works, I know it does, and it's not me, it's

all

> those darn medical books from years past... Really, the ball is in

> your corner. I suspect you won't be able to prove iodine is not

> effective on staphylococcus aureus bacteria. Hopefully you'll learn

> something while you're trying to refute what I've said.

>

> Again, MRSA is staphylococcus aureus that is resistant to certain

> antibiotics including the " cillins " . Now if it was called IRSA

> (iodine resistent s. aureus), then I'd sit right straight up in my

> saddle.

[Guest guest]

So you're saying a culture of MRSA would not be killed by administration

of iodine? If so I find that surprising; and a little scary...

..

..

> So, as you say whatever... I just hope you don't get MRSA- because you

> will

> be shocked when your iodine doesn't kill it and you end up in hospital

> fighting for your life....

[Guest guest]

Sam, the burden of proof is upon he/she who makes the claim of effacy of

a medicine; not on the doubters. And in science the burden of proof is

upon he/she who proposes something different from the accepted

paradigm. Even when that party happens to be right...

That is for credible research, of course; for personal use you can use

any criteria you like. Since you've found something that works for you

that's great and I wouldn't suggest you change it. I would suggest you

be well aware of the signs of any negative responses to iodine [or

whatever] though; and watch out for them.

Regards,

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Sam " k9gang@...

>

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> stealthwind <stealthwind>

>

>

> Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:56 pm (PDT)

>

> What's the matter with you? Iodine used to be commonly used for all

> sorts of things before all that new bs that doesn't work well was

> created.

>

> No, sweetie, your the one who needs to prove it doesn't work on that

> which I stated.