Anyone use Nature Thyroid?

February 6, 2009

I just started going to a holistic doctor and he prescribed me nature

thyroid. Anyone else been on this and how do you like it? Is it only

avaiable through the doctor or can you find it in natural food places

as well? I really do like this doctor but hes kinda costly to go to

since insurance doesn't cover it. I didn't know if there were other

options to obtain it since I'd like to try to keep my visits with him

to maybe once a year and I'm not sure if he'll give me that much of a

supply without coming back in more periodically. Thanks for your

feedback!

February 6, 2009

>

> I just started going to a holistic doctor and he prescribed me

nature

> thyroid. Anyone else been on this and how do you like it? Is it

only

> avaiable through the doctor or can you find it in natural food

places

> as well? I really do like this doctor but hes kinda costly to go to

> since insurance doesn't cover it. I didn't know if there were other

> options to obtain it since I'd like to try to keep my visits with

him

> to maybe once a year and I'm not sure if he'll give me that much of

a

> supply without coming back in more periodically. Thanks for your

> feedback!

>

Nature-thyoid is available at WalGreens. It is very inexpensive. I

was quotes $5 for 90 2 grain tablets. Anything bought from a doctor

usually has a very high markup.

February 6, 2009

I am on it but I don't know if it works yet. Have been on it for 3 months & up

to 2 grains. I still feel bad, but have been updosing too slowly & have low iron

& sick adrenals.

Ali

> From: rayr_us <ray89012@...>

> Subject: Re: Anyone use Nature Thyroid?

> hypothyroidism

> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 1:31 PM

>

> >

> > I just started going to a holistic doctor and he

> prescribed me

> nature

> > thyroid. Anyone else been on this and how do you like

> it? Is it

> only

> > avaiable through the doctor or can you find it in

> natural food

> places

> > as well? I really do like this doctor but hes kinda

> costly to go to

> > since insurance doesn't cover it. I didn't

> know if there were other

> > options to obtain it since I'd like to try to keep

> my visits with

> him

> > to maybe once a year and I'm not sure if he'll

> give me that much of

> a

> > supply without coming back in more periodically.

> Thanks for your

> > feedback!

> >

>

> Nature-thyoid is available at WalGreens. It is very

> inexpensive. I

> was quotes $5 for 90 2 grain tablets. Anything bought from

> a doctor

> usually has a very high markup.

February 6, 2009

I am on it but I don't know if it works yet. Have been on it for 3 months & up

to 2 grains. I still feel bad, but have been updosing too slowly & have low iron

& sick adrenals.

Ali

> From: rayr_us <ray89012@...>

> Subject: Re: Anyone use Nature Thyroid?

> hypothyroidism

> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 1:31 PM

>

> >

> > I just started going to a holistic doctor and he

> prescribed me

> nature

> > thyroid. Anyone else been on this and how do you like

> it? Is it

> only

> > avaiable through the doctor or can you find it in

> natural food

> places

> > as well? I really do like this doctor but hes kinda

> costly to go to

> > since insurance doesn't cover it. I didn't

> know if there were other

> > options to obtain it since I'd like to try to keep

> my visits with

> him

> > to maybe once a year and I'm not sure if he'll

> give me that much of

> a

> > supply without coming back in more periodically.

> Thanks for your

> > feedback!

> >

>

> Nature-thyoid is available at WalGreens. It is very

> inexpensive. I

> was quotes $5 for 90 2 grain tablets. Anything bought from

> a doctor

> usually has a very high markup.

February 6, 2009

I could not take more than 90mg Armour until I got cortef and sex hormones.

now I take 240mg. 100mg Iodoral.

Gracia

I am on it but I don't know if it works yet. Have been on it for 3 months & up

to 2 grains. I still feel bad, but have been updosing too slowly & have low iron

& sick adrenals.

Ali

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February 6, 2009

Can you get it on your own or do you still need a prescription? With

him being kind of costly the problem is I probably can't go to as

many followups as he would want and don't know if I could get a

refill from him without going in for an appointment.

> >

> > I just started going to a holistic doctor and he prescribed me

> nature

> > thyroid. Anyone else been on this and how do you like it? Is it

> only

> > avaiable through the doctor or can you find it in natural food

> places

> > as well? I really do like this doctor but hes kinda costly to go

to

> > since insurance doesn't cover it. I didn't know if there were

other

> > options to obtain it since I'd like to try to keep my visits with

> him

> > to maybe once a year and I'm not sure if he'll give me that much

of

> a

> > supply without coming back in more periodically. Thanks for your

> > feedback!

> >

>

> Nature-thyoid is available at WalGreens. It is very inexpensive.

I

> was quotes $5 for 90 2 grain tablets. Anything bought from a

doctor

> usually has a very high markup.

>

February 7, 2009

It is not legal to sell it in the US without a prescription. However, I

think some people are able to find another way; how legal it is I don't

know. You would probably want to communicate privately if you're going

that route.

I personally have no experience with it; Synthroid works fine.

Luck,

..

>

> Posted by: " eeyore6802 " eeyore6802@...

>

<mailto:eeyore6802@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20use%20Nature%20Thyroid%\

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> eeyore6802 <eeyore6802>

>

> Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:33 pm (PST)

>

> Can you get it on your own or do you still need a prescription? With

> him being kind of costly the problem is I probably can't go to as

> many followups as he would want and don't know if I could get a

> refill from him without going in for an appointment.

February 7, 2009

It's not illegal to import 90 days of a prescription medication for

personal use. I've ordered from the four pharmacies below in some

combination over the past 10 years or more. Even with insurance now, I

still order some of my medications from international pharmacies when

" insurance + doctor visit costs + travel time " is still more than the

" international price + shipping " .

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/iasstore/acatalog/thyroid.html

http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=armour & bysearch=ok & Go.x=0 & Go\

..y=0

http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/general/westhroid.html

http://www.biogenesis-antiaging.com/p49/Thyroid-Nature/Westhyroid-(1-Grain)/prod\

uct_info.html

http://www.biogenesis-antiaging.com/p51/Thyroid-Armour-(1-Grain)/product_info.ht\

ml

This place doesn't have Armour in stock or a generic but the pricing on

it's other drugs can often the best around. I buy Aciphex there for

about $6/month, a drug that cost $180 in a US pharmacy and on my

insurance it's a 50% copay. The lowest my insurance is is $7 for most

generics. The shipping charge for all orders is $30 USD so I order a

bunch of different prescriptions at the same time.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/search.php

As to Synthroid working " fine " , the human thyroid produces both T4 and

T3 and while some tissues can convert T4 to T3, I don't think one can

say authoritatively that all tissues have this ability, particularly

considering that the thyroid does indeed produce some T3.

Unless you take the time to become personally informed on your

drug/supplement options, seeing a doctor " might " be a better choice, but

once you are on course, being economical seems wise.

I personally treat my thyroid by ordering my own labs and ordering my

own medications. Most doctors would never have treated my thyroid based

on lab work alone since the TSH test is the " GOD " standard nowadays. I

treat symptoms. As a result of self treating with T3, my cholesterol

has dropped from 215-220 to 170. Statin drugs, the " GOD " choice of

orthodox medicine gave me, as it does many people, damaging side

effects. Most statin drug side effects are ignored by doctors and

instead they send your for antidepressants, to a neurologist, claim the

muscle aches and pains are a result of aging, claim forgetfulness is a

symptom of aging, etc. T3 is a much safer choice although not

mainstream, at least, not mainstream today. Treating cholesterol with

thyroid medication used to be mainstream before the push on statin

drugs, a more profitable but not safer choice. Most doctors have

completely forgotten about treating the thyroid to lower cholesterol.

Steve

wrote:

> It is not legal to sell it in the US without a prescription. However, I

> think some people are able to find another way; how legal it is I don't

> know. You would probably want to communicate privately if you're going

> that route.

>

> I personally have no experience with it; Synthroid works fine.

>

> Luck,

>

> .

>

>> Posted by: " eeyore6802 " eeyore6802@...

>>

<mailto:eeyore6802@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20use%20Nature%20Thyroid%\

3F>

>> eeyore6802 <eeyore6802>

>>

>> Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:33 pm (PST)

>>

>> Can you get it on your own or do you still need a prescription? With

>> him being kind of costly the problem is I probably can't go to as

>> many followups as he would want and don't know if I could get a

>> refill from him without going in for an appointment.

--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

" If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

February 8, 2009

My doctor is _extremely_ concerned about the possible side effects of

statins and questions me closely about any symptoms that could indicate

a problem. He also orders frequent bloodwork, part of whose intent is

to detect any possible negative effects. I would hope other doctors are

as diligent.

I doubt many of us have the intelligence and education [formal or

informal] that you have, or that is necessary to properly self treat to

the extent that you have.

..

Steve wrote:

> ...Most statin drug side effects are ignored by doctors...

February 8, 2009

You have fallen into " good luck " here . If you take a look a the

groups Lipitor and

Stopped_Our_Statins , you will see reports of doctor

ignorance and assertions quite astonishing. Recent discussions involved

a number of wives with husbands who are older and were prescribed

statins and when downhill hill fast on statins and doctors who insist

that it cannot be the statins and they need to remain on them. These

wives took their husbands OFF STATINS with partial and immediate

improvements but statins damages are often either permanent and or take

years to overcome mostly, especially in the elderly.

My first statin, Lipitor, after six months started causing PVCs in

significant number. It took me about 6 more months to identify the

cause while my doctors don't ever question the Lipitor. Getting off

lipitor improved the problem dramatically but the damage was done and

the solutions I found to minimize the problem are still required to some

degree. Lipitor elevated my liver enzymes which was considered

" OK/Safe " if it was less than 3-4 times the high end of the lab

reference range. Today, I find that bull $#!T.

The the second statin drug I was on I was on for years and still had to

take some CoQ10 and magnesium to limit a smaller PVC problem (heart

arrhythmia). The " fear factor " kept me on the drug. I went off the

statin for 6 months due to conflicts with another drug I took short temr

and then restarted the statin. This time, I started getting hand pain

that was spreading that no pain killer would improve, lower leg pain

that was spreading that no pain killer would improve, tendon pain behind

my right leg which no pain killer would improve, and cognitive decreases

on timed computer game playing that was in the neighborhood of 20

percent. Normal daily functioning didn't seem to be affected by the

cognitive decline, but perhaps it wasn't yet noticeable. I stopped the

statin without consulting with my doctor since I wasn't going to argue

with them. They were the ones that wanted me back on the statin. It

took a week or so for the and pain to be eliminated with super mega

doses of CoQ10 and another month for leg pain to go away, except when I

used the treadmill which causes my left leg some pain. The cognitive

issues took two months to resolve, thankfully they did resolve.

When I did see my cardiologist, she really want to find justification

for me to restart a statin, but I insisted in entering into my my

medical file that I had bad reactions to two statins. I wanted this in

my paperwork as drug " reactions " . I have not intension at this time of

ever taking a statin again.

Steve

wrote:

> My doctor is _extremely_ concerned about the possible side effects of

> statins and questions me closely about any symptoms that could indicate

> a problem. He also orders frequent bloodwork, part of whose intent is

> to detect any possible negative effects. I would hope other doctors are

> as diligent.

>

> I doubt many of us have the intelligence and education [formal or

> informal] that you have, or that is necessary to properly self treat to

> the extent that you have.

>

> .

> Steve wrote:

>> ...Most statin drug side effects are ignored by doctors...

--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

" If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march

to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford

February 9, 2009

I guess luck figures into more than we know. I've had heart arrhythmia

all my life but really didn't get it diagnosed for the first 40 plus

years. Now I take a blocker [beta or calcium; I don't remember] and it

takes care of virtually all the problem. My cardiologist would prefer

the ablation route but when he mentioned that there would be some small

chance of negative side effects... including death... I lost interest.

The statin didn't seem to have any negative side effects at all as far

as I can see. And I'm darned sure my doctor would not tolerate liver

enzymes over the max range, but nothing like that ever shows up.

So is it good luck that I don't have horrendous side effects, or bad

luck that you do??? I suspect that if more people had the results you

have there would be fewer of us taking statins. I'm now 68 and I'm sure

I couldn't tolerate the misery you've had. It's great you have it under

control.

Regards,

..

>

> Posted by: " Steve " dudescholar4@...

>

<mailto:dudescholar4@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20use%20Nature%20Th\

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> dudescholar <dudescholar>

>

> Sun Feb 8, 2009 11:33 am (PST)

>

> You have fallen into " good luck " here . If you take a look a the

> groups Lipitor

> <mailto:Lipitor%40> and

> Stopped_Our_Statins

> <mailto:Stopped_Our_Statins%40>, you will see reports

> of doctor

> ignorance and assertions quite astonishing. Recent discussions involved

> a number of wives with husbands who are older and were prescribed

> statins and when downhill hill fast on statins and doctors who insist

> that it cannot be the statins and they need to remain on them. These

> wives took their husbands OFF STATINS with partial and immediate

> improvements but statins damages are often either permanent and or take

> years to overcome mostly, especially in the elderly.

>

> My first statin, Lipitor, after six months started causing PVCs in

> significant number. It took me about 6 more months to identify the

> cause while my doctors don't ever question the Lipitor. Getting off

> lipitor improved the problem dramatically but the damage was done and

> the solutions I found to minimize the problem are still required to some

> degree. Lipitor elevated my liver enzymes which was considered

> " OK/Safe " if it was less than 3-4 times the high end of the lab

> reference range. Today, I find that bull $#!T.

>

> The the second statin drug I was on I was on for years and still had to

> take some CoQ10 and magnesium to limit a smaller PVC problem (heart

> arrhythmia). The " fear factor " kept me on the drug. I went off the

> statin for 6 months due to conflicts with another drug I took short temr

> and then restarted the statin. This time, I started getting hand pain

> that was spreading that no pain killer would improve, lower leg pain

> that was spreading that no pain killer would improve, tendon pain behind

> my right leg which no pain killer would improve, and cognitive decreases

> on timed computer game playing that was in the neighborhood of 20

> percent. Normal daily functioning didn't seem to be affected by the

> cognitive decline, but perhaps it wasn't yet noticeable. I stopped the

> statin without consulting with my doctor since I wasn't going to argue

> with them. They were the ones that wanted me back on the statin. It

> took a week or so for the and pain to be eliminated with super mega

> doses of CoQ10 and another month for leg pain to go away, except when I

> used the treadmill which causes my left leg some pain. The cognitive

> issues took two months to resolve, thankfully they did resolve.

>

> When I did see my cardiologist, she really want to find justification

> for me to restart a statin, but I insisted in entering into my my

> medical file that I had bad reactions to two statins. I wanted this in

> my paperwork as drug " reactions " . I have not intension at this time of

> ever taking a statin again.

>

> Steve

>

> wrote:

> > My doctor is _extremely_ concerned about the possible side effects of

> > statins and questions me closely about any symptoms that could indicate

> > a problem. He also orders frequent bloodwork, part of whose intent is

> > to detect any possible negative effects. I would hope other doctors are

> > as diligent.

> >

> > I doubt many of us have the intelligence and education [formal or

> > informal] that you have, or that is necessary to properly self treat to

> > the extent that you have.

> >

February 9, 2009

see, this is what I am talking about. in the future peeps like you will not

be treated with T4, statins, and beta blockers. you would get magnesium,

iodine and possibly Armour if you needed it. these things SUPPORT the whole

body.

follow the $$$