Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Venezia -- I can't get the link to work. What are they saying that has you upset?? Amy ________________________________ From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> hypothyroidism Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:12:36 PM Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... I think this link is important to go to: http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Venezia, I've tried to access this link but there is something wrong with it. Could you send it again? If you like you can send it to me directly. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... hypothyroidism Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM I think this link is important to go to: http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. Venizia ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Roni I can give you this much: The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? > > > From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> > Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > hypothyroidism > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > > > I think this link is important to go to: > > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > > Venizia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I copied and pasted it into the browser. This is the first thing that came up. http://www.raysahelian.com/magnesiumstearate.html Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> Subject: Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... hypothyroidism Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:13 AM Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make this link work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about computers! Venizia > > > From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> > Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > hypothyroidism > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > > > I think this link is important to go to: > > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > > Venizia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Here's another site Re: Magnesium Stearate. http://www.aapspharmscitech.org/view.asp?art=pt030319 Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> Subject: Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... hypothyroidism Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:13 AM Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make this link work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about computers! Venizia > > > From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> > Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > hypothyroidism > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > > > I think this link is important to go to: > > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > > Venizia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 It seems that there is a difference in the magnesium stearate that is used in pills and capsules, and magnesium stearate that is used by itself. I sent two different sites, one by Ray Shahalian and one by the pharma industry. To me it looked like pretty much the same conclusions. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> Subject: Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... hypothyroidism Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:16 AM Roni I can give you this much: The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? > > > From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> > Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > hypothyroidism > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > > > I think this link is important to go to: > > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > > Venizia > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Magnesium_stearate-9927217 Or here's a short version: http://tinyurl.com/d3z85v Magnesium stearate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate Steve venizia1948 wrote: > Roni I can give you this much: > > The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? > > > >> >> >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... >> hypothyroidism >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM >> >> >> I think this link is important to go to: >> >> >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 >> >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. >> >> Venizia -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Steve thanks so much!!! How did you get it to work? I need to take a computer class!! Venizia > >> > >> > >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@> > >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > >> hypothyroidism > >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> > >> > >> I think this link is important to go to: > >> > >> > >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > >> > >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > >> > >> Venizia > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 It is . They are breaking up the links again. Just like they did with the link I sent to you previously. It is a pain. -- Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make this link work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about computers! Venizia > .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 The wikipedia site says that it is safe and used in making capsules and pills. The other site is talking about this stuff in powder form and obtained or used in bulk. I think there is a difference, but of course I could be wrong. I'd like to ask Chuck if he knows the difference and could explain it to us. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > Roni I can give you this much: > > The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? > > > >> >> >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... >> hypothyroidism >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM >> >> >> I think this link is important to go to: >> >> >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 >> >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. >> >> Venizia -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yes, me too.....any thoughts Chuck? Venizia > >> > >> > >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@> > >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > >> hypothyroidism > >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> > >> > >> I think this link is important to go to: > >> > >> > >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > >> > >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > >> > >> Venizia > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 The stuff is used in both pharmacological and supplement type of pills and capsules. The first is regulated the second not. Since it has been used for so long, I would tend to think that if it was dangerous to the general public it would have been discovered already. Again, I could be wrong. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> Subject: Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... hypothyroidism Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:51 PM Yes, me too.....any thoughts Chuck? Venizia > >> > >> > >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@> > >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > >> hypothyroidism > >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> > >> > >> I think this link is important to go to: > >> > >> > >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > >> > >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > >> > >> Venizia > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 The link had spaces. I took them out. Sometimes breaks up links and sometimes they don't. I don't recall mine ever getting broken up, I don't know why. There used to be a " practice " where one put angle brackets <> on either side of a link and it wouldn't even get wrapped by email software. That practice is inconsistently applied nowadays. Steve venizia1948 wrote: > Steve thanks so much!!! > How did you get it to work? > > I need to take a computer class!! > > Venizia > > > > > >>> Roni I can give you this much: >>> >>> The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . >>> >>> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 >>> >>> The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? >>> >>> -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 It's a find dust that makes other things pore really easily. But, don't breath it as it's a very fine dust - that's one of the reasons for strict warnings when the bulk is being handled. Steve Roni Molin wrote: > The wikipedia site says that it is safe and used in making capsules and pills. > > The other site is talking about this stuff in powder form and obtained or used in > bulk. I think there is a difference, but of course I could be wrong. > > I'd like to ask Chuck if he knows the difference and could explain it to us. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > > From: Steve <dudescholar4@...> > Subject: Re: Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... > hypothyroidism > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:59 AM > > > > http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Magnesium_stearate-9927217 > > Or here's a short version: > http://tinyurl.com/d3z85v > > Magnesium stearate > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate > > Steve -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Steve, So where is the part that says it is dangerous? Material Safety Data Sheets generally refer to large exposures. They are notoriously exaggerated. I have one that says that chalk dust is carcinogenic. Chuck You wrote: > > > > http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Magnesium_stearate-9927217 > <http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Magnesium_stearate-9927217> > > Or here's a short version: > http://tinyurl.com/d3z85v <http://tinyurl.com/d3z85v> > > Magnesium stearate > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate> > > Steve > > venizia1948 wrote: > > Roni I can give you this much: > > > > The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS > compound on our medication.. . > > > > http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > > > > The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry > lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In > the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if > swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all > of us in our medication?? ? > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> From: venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> > >> Subject: with all the talk about magnesium..... > >> hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > >> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> > >> > >> I think this link is important to go to: > >> > >> > >> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > >> > >> If what they are saying is true, why in the world would this stuff > be in anything that we ingest? This really makes me angry. For months I > was taking this not realizing how dangerous it is...IF this is true. > >> > >> Venizia > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html> > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2027 - Release Date: 03/27/09 18:51:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 venizia1948 wrote: > > > Yes, me too.....any thoughts Chuck? Sure. In an MSDS, the emphasis should be on _Material_. These are warnings for large warehouses full of magnesium stearate dust. They don't apply to the tiny quantities used to hold pills together. Look at an MSDS for insect spray or household cleaners. Or, paint, flour, or bath products. It will make you wonder how you managed to reach adulthood. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Venizia, I usually only cite MSDSs when I am trying to convince Gracia how dangerous iodine is. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 My lesson for the day....thanks so much. Venizia > >>> Roni I can give you this much: > >>> > >>> The link below confirms that magnesium stearate is indeed a DANGEROUS compound on our medication.. . > >>> > >>> http://www.sciencel ab.com/xMSDS- Magnesium_ stearate- 9927217 > >>> > >>> The link conducts you to the material safety data sheet (a chemistry lab info sheet for people that work straight with the checmicals). In the end of the document it says " Magnesium stearate poses a hazard if swallowed " .. . hello, this thing is supposed to be then swallowed by all of us in our medication?? ? > >>> > >>> > > -- > > Steve - dudescholar4@... > > Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at > http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html > > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march > to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 hmmm Venizia > > Venizia, > > I usually only cite MSDSs when I am trying to convince Gracia how > dangerous iodine is. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Thanks Chuck, I wish they would have clarified this in the report. Made it sound ominous. Venizia > > > > > > Yes, me too.....any thoughts Chuck? > > Sure. In an MSDS, the emphasis should be on _Material_. These are > warnings for large warehouses full of magnesium stearate dust. They > don't apply to the tiny quantities used to hold pills together. Look at > an MSDS for insect spray or household cleaners. Or, paint, flour, or > bath products. It will make you wonder how you managed to reach adulthood. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 You can usually prevent 's software from breaking a link by enclosing it in arrows: <http://www.google.com/>. Although such short links are usually not broken anyway. .. .. > > Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20with%20all%20the%20talk%20about%20\ magnesium%2E%2E%2E%2E%2E> > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:33 pm (PDT) > > It is . They are breaking up the links again. Just like they did with > the link I sent to you previously. It is a pain. > > -- Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... > > Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make > this link > work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it > needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about > computers! > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Thanks . I learn all kinds of things from this group! Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , <res075oh@...> wrote: > > You can usually prevent 's software from breaking a link by > enclosing it in arrows: <http://www.google.com/>. Although such short > links are usually not broken anyway. > > > . > . > > > > > Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@... > > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20with%20all%20the%20talk%20about%20magn\ esium%2E%2E%2E%2E%2E> > > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > > > > Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:33 pm (PDT) > > > > It is . They are breaking up the links again. Just like they did with > > the link I sent to you previously. It is a pain. > > > > -- Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... > > > > Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make > > this link > > work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it > > needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about > > computers! > > > > Venizia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Good to know. Thanks. -- Re: with all the talk about magnesium..... > > Sorry Roni and Amy....can someone that is more computer savvy make > this link > work? It did not highlight the whole link so to get it thru. I think it > needs to be shortened or something? Told you I didn't know much about > computers! > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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