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I don't think my problem is lack of protein , I track every

morsel on fitday. My calories are averaging around 1200ish per day and

protein is 50 -80 grams. I am perimenopausal (age 49) and am wondering

if it could be hormones. For past year I've been getting hair growth

on my chin but after surgery I'm loosing hair off my head. Maybe

effects of the anesthetic or hormones. I'm going to give it another

month or so before going to my regular doc and ask for tests.

Kem in Eugene

286/255/150

Dr. Neal 8.6.04

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<< Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:16:59 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

From: " Milligan's °Ü° " <happy1s@...>

Subject: kem re: hair loss

Kem,

You and I were banded around the same time and our weight loss is very

similar. I too am experiencing hair loss. I didn't think much about it

until I read your post. I have a handful come out in the shower and

then

when I blow dry I have to sweep up the floor. I think I read early on,

before I hand my band, that it's not getting enough protein. So I'm

going

to increase mine. Let me know what you do and maybe we can compare

notes.

°Ü°

7/15/04

204/165/135

Dr. Aceves, Mexico>>

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Thanks for posting this. I have a friend who is experiencing the hair

loss thing. I'll pass this on.

M.

> Kem, My thyroid took a nose dive last year and I lost a lot of hair.

Just a thought. Ruth

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Venizia,

Thank you for this information. I wish he was my doctor too!! I am sorry

that you will not be able to have him as your doctor. Any chance you can

consult with your new doc, and then pay for his services occassionally? That

way, you will have insurance for catastrophic stuff, but get well with him?

Maybe he can work with you? Any chance you can get a referral to him?

Thanks for this information, i will be increasing slightly as well too. Right

now, I am doing a cleanse to try to help too. I have noticed that at night,

around the same time, my heart starts racing...it's weird. Did this happen to

you?

Hugs!

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi

Well, I had my last appointment this morning with the only doctor that has

helped me feel

better in 20 yrs. Very sad. He is much to expensive for me to afford with the

insurance

change we had to make. He was so helpful though. He is writing a statement to

the next

doctor and explaining what he has been doing and why. He is a believer in

treating by

symptoms not by tests. He said with Hashi's you CANNOT treat by tests. Hope I

can

convince my next doctor. I may be going back to him and eating less etc.

Anyway, I asked him about my hairloss and whether that meant I was getting too

much

Armour or not enough. He said I needed to increase it. Hairloss was from not

getting

enough Armour. Hope this helps you make a decision that works for you. I will be

increasing mine slightly.

Have a great day.

Venizia

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You might want to have your TSH checked again, and if the number is below <.01,

try

splitting up the dose in halves or thirds. I have found this to be a help, and

my racing

heart with the atrial fibrillation is doing much better.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

Venizia,

Thank you for this information. I wish he was my doctor too!! I am sorry that

you will not be able to have him as your doctor. Any chance you can consult with

your new doc, and then pay for his services occassionally? That way, you will

have insurance for catastrophic stuff, but get well with him? Maybe he can work

with you? Any chance you can get a referral to him?

Thanks for this information, i will be increasing slightly as well too. Right

now, I am doing a cleanse to try to help too. I have noticed that at night,

around the same time, my heart starts racing...it's weird. Did this happen to

you?

Hugs!

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi

Well, I had my last appointment this morning with the only doctor that has

helped me feel

better in 20 yrs. Very sad. He is much to expensive for me to afford with the

insurance

change we had to make. He was so helpful though. He is writing a statement to

the next

doctor and explaining what he has been doing and why. He is a believer in

treating by

symptoms not by tests. He said with Hashi's you CANNOT treat by tests. Hope I

can

convince my next doctor. I may be going back to him and eating less etc.

Anyway, I asked him about my hairloss and whether that meant I was getting too

much

Armour or not enough. He said I needed to increase it. Hairloss was from not

getting

enough Armour. Hope this helps you make a decision that works for you. I will be

increasing mine slightly.

Have a great day.

Venizia

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,

I get the racing heart when I have food or liquids with sulfites of which there

are many.

Any corn products have sulfites because the corn in processing is bathed in

sulfites (used

as a preservative). I cannot have popcorn and many other foods. You might want

to check

to see if it is happening after you have eaten something and then find out if

it may have

sulfites.

When I first started on Armour, I had a racing heart but after the dose was

lowered, it was

ok. Someone in the group mentioned that you can get the racing heart if you

increase too

quickly with to large a dose.

Hope this helps.

Venizia

> Hi

>

> Well, I had my last appointment this morning with the only doctor that has

helped me

feel

> better in 20 yrs. Very sad. He is much to expensive for me to afford with the

insurance

> change we had to make. He was so helpful though. He is writing a statement to

the next

> doctor and explaining what he has been doing and why. He is a believer in

treating by

> symptoms not by tests. He said with Hashi's you CANNOT treat by tests. Hope I

can

> convince my next doctor. I may be going back to him and eating less etc.

>

> Anyway, I asked him about my hairloss and whether that meant I was getting too

much

> Armour or not enough. He said I needed to increase it. Hairloss was from not

getting

> enough Armour. Hope this helps you make a decision that works for you. I will

be

> increasing mine slightly.

>

> Have a great day.

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair...gaining

weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So, not sure if I

am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am giong

to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she will be

open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this test,

because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my results

back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am not

as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read Chuck's

email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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Try not to feel down. You still have options to try. Going to an osteopath and

checking

adrenals may be helpful. Have you checked out what other conditions may cause

hair

loss? Maybe it is not your thyroid at all. I would google if I were you. I do

know how you

feel about the weight gain. I had put on almost 30# before going on Armour.

Going up to

160# and only being 5' 2 " is not healthy. I have lost 12 since but I still have

a ways to go

and yes, it is very frustrating. Will be thinking of you and let me know what

the osteopath

has to say....I am very interested!

Venizia

> Hi ,

>

> You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> losing-my-hair/

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I highly doubt you are fat since I have seen pics! However, maybe things

are just catching up with you and you can look forward to your looks begin

to match up with your labs:)

-- Re: hair loss/

Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair..

gaining weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So,

not sure if I am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am

giong to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she

will be open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this

test, because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my

results back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am

not as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read

Chuck's email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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:o) Thanks Crystal...but unfortunately the scale doesn't lie, and neither do my

pants!! :o)

I also joined Oprah's weight loss challenge...

Blessings,

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

I highly doubt you are fat since I have seen pics! However, maybe

things

are just catching up with you and you can look forward to your looks begin

to match up with your labs:)

-- Re: hair loss/

Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair..

gaining weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So,

not sure if I am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am

giong to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she

will be open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this

test, because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my

results back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am

not as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read

Chuck's email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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Do you use coconut oil?

-- Re: hair loss/

Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair..

gaining weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So,

not sure if I am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am

giong to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she

will be open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this

test, because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my

results back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am

not as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read

Chuck's email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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I used it in the past, but didn't really notice that much of a difference. I

was using Garden of LIfe, and URI brands. Do you think it helps?

Thanks for your encouragement... :o)

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Do you use coconut oil?

-- Re: hair loss/

Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair..

gaining weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So,

not sure if I am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am

giong to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she

will be open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this

test, because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my

results back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am

not as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read

Chuck's email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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I do know it is better than other oils when used in cooking. I used it on

DD's diaper rash that was actually yeast. I just buy Lou since its

less expensive than Garden of Life. Dr Mercola wrote a lot in his book

about it. I'll have to see what it says and let you know.

CW

-- Re: hair loss/

Hi Venizia,

Thanks for this...I feel so confused, because when my TSH was in the 40's, I

didn't have any hairloss, and now that it is 0.10, I am losing hair..

gaining weight, and my freeT3 and T4 seem to be in the right ranges...So,

not sure if I am hypo or hyper

So, I don't know what to do, I think I need to address adrenals... I am

giong to see an osteopath (covered by insurance) on Monday, so hopefully she

will be open to getting me my saliva tests. (It is hard to use STTM for this

test, because they are overseas, and I would have to international air my

results back....) I'll keep you posted on what her thoughts are too.

I am feeling really frustrated, almost feel duped, as when my TSH was in the

Hypo range, I was skinny, had all of my hair, but was depressed....now I am

not as depressed, fat, and have low TSH! Not sure what to think...I read

Chuck's email, and am not sure if my Hashi is a moving target.

Thanks for thinking of me!

Hugs,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Hi ,

You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

losing-my-hair/

Venizia

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Hi /everyone,

I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I

googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested

evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L-

lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost

immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much...

Check it out!

Hope this helps,

Henry

>

> Hi ,

>

> You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> losing-my-hair/

>

> Venizia

>

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Hi Henry,

Thanks very much for this information. I bought some EPO for something else,

so I will start taking it.

Blessings,

dvanhelsing <dvanhelsing@...> wrote:

Hi /everyone,

I have also recently noticed that I'm thinning at the temples. I

googled " hair loss hypothyroid " and found a site that suggested

evening primrose oil, ferritin, and two types of amino acid (I think L-

lysine and something else) - I tried the EPO and noticed almost

immediately that my scalp didn't hurt quite so much...

Check it out!

Hope this helps,

Henry

>

> Hi ,

>

> You may have already read this but in case you didn't try:

stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> losing-my-hair/

>

> Venizia

>

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