Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Hi Venezia, You know, I think there is something in that Synthoid, because I had such a bad reaction to the synthroid, puffy, sad, fat, etc...and when I told the dr that, he suggested that I only take the white ones (.05mg) and see if it made a difference. Well, I never did take them after that, because I read that so many people were having horrible side effects from the synthoid, that I thought " what's the use? " So, I gave it up entirely. But, it sounds like there could be that component, because I do not do well on sulfa drugs. Sulfa drugs gave me a mask of pregnancy! Now, it is basically gone since I went off the synthoid...although it took a while to get rid of it. Plus, I also gave up gluten too, because I couldn't tolerate that as well, so that could contribute to it. Anyway, so if it is helping, what dose are you taking for the synthroid with the white pills? Thanks! venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Does anyone know anything about Synthroid having sulfites in it. I have a sensitivity to sulfa and sulfites and read that the colored pills of synthroid have sulfites. I have asked my doctor to switch me to the white pill ( .05mg) and it is making a difference. No more puffy face or puffiness of the rest of my body. Venezia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 venizia1948 wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about Synthroid having sulfites in it. It does not. However, it dose have lactose, which many people cannot handle. Also, you may be reacting to a specific color additive. These are used to differentiate the various doses, different colors for different doses. Here are the Synthroid and generic levothyroxine inert ingredients: Acacia, confectioner's sugar (contains cornstarch), lactose, magnesium stearate, povidone, and talc. No sulfites. The following are the color additives by tablet strength: 25 mcg: FD & C yellow No. 6; 50 mcg: None; 75 mcg: FD & C red No. 40, FD & C blue No. 2; 88 mcg: FD & C blue No. 1, FD & C yellow No. 6, D & C yellow No. 10; 100 mcg: D & C yellow No.10, FD & C yellow No. 6; 112 mcg: D & C red No. 27 & 30; 125 mcg: FD & C yellow No. 6, FD & C red No. 40, FD & C blue No. 1; 150 mcg: FD & C blue No. 2; 175 mcg: FD & C blue No. 1, D & C red No. 27 & 30; 200 mcg: FD & C red No. 40; 300 mcg: D & C yellow No. 10, FD & C yellow No. 6, FD & C blue No. 1. Levoxyl inert ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, croscarmellose sodium and magnesium stearate. The following are the coloring additives per tablet strength: (mcg) 25 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake; 50 None; 75 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake; 88 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 100 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 112 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD & C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake; 125 FD & C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 137 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake; 150 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake; 175 FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 200 D & C Red No. 30 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake; 300 FD & C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD & C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D & C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake So what is the difference? The big one is lactose in Synthroid and its generics. Some people are intolerable to even a tiny amount of this ingredient. The second big difference is that Synthroid uses dyes for coloring, while Levoxyl has a combination of dyes and lakes. A dye is a distinct chemical material, which exhibits coloring power when dissolved. The lakes are insoluble in nearly all solvents. The term is derived from the early medieval Latin lacca to indicate a combination of pigment with products of the lac insect (Kerria lacca). The lac was imported into Europe from India, and it yielded both red dyestuff and, as a by-product, shellac (shell-lac) and lacquer (lac-quer). Until the 18th century, lake indicated red pigments only. Aluminum lakes are produced by the absorption of a water soluble dye onto a hydrated aluminum substrate. The food product is colored either by dispersion of the lake or by coating onto the surface. Hope that helps. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Venizia1948, You wrote: > > Chuck if synthroid has cornstarch, cornstarch has a sulfite component > from what I > understand. Even if it is a small amount if one is sensitive it can have > an effect. ... Thanks. My wife is mildly sensitive to sulfites, so we do avoid foods with the higher concentrations, the ones that require labeling at 10 ppb or higher (except for potatoes). However, she does not usually have the upper respiratory allergic responses. Her problems are all digestive. We do carry an epi pen, just in case. Anyway, the amount left in cornstarch from the bleaching process is pretty small. If the cornstarch is then a minor component of a small additive to a tiny pill, just a drying agent in the confectioner's sugar, then the total sulfite exposure from each pill is truly minute. A tablespoon of gravy could contains thousands of times as much. It would take a very large sensitivity for your sort of reaction. Most of what I have read about adverse reactions from synthetic T4 forms has to do with the coloring. What is more, the confectioner's sugar is also in the uncolored 50 mcg pills AT THE SAME LEVEL. If it is the cornstarch, then switching to these pills should not be helping. The fact that the white pills are helping further suggests the coloring, in which case another color (dose) may also work in addition to the plain white. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks Chuck. That makes a lot of sense. Venzia --- Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > Venizia1948, > > You wrote: > > > > > Chuck if synthroid has cornstarch, cornstarch has > a sulfite component > > from what I > > understand. Even if it is a small amount if one is > sensitive it can have > > an effect. ... > > Thanks. My wife is mildly sensitive to sulfites, so > we do avoid foods > with the higher concentrations, the ones that > require labeling at 10 ppb > or higher (except for potatoes). However, she does > not usually have the > upper respiratory allergic responses. Her problems > are all digestive. We > do carry an epi pen, just in case. > > Anyway, the amount left in cornstarch from the > bleaching process is > pretty small. If the cornstarch is then a minor > component of a small > additive to a tiny pill, just a drying agent in the > confectioner's > sugar, then the total sulfite exposure from each > pill is truly minute. A > tablespoon of gravy could contains thousands of > times as much. It would > take a very large sensitivity for your sort of > reaction. Most of what I > have read about adverse reactions from synthetic T4 > forms has to do with > the coloring. > > What is more, the confectioner's sugar is also in > the uncolored 50 mcg > pills AT THE SAME LEVEL. If it is the cornstarch, > then switching to > these pills should not be helping. The fact that the > white pills are > helping further suggests the coloring, in which case > another color > (dose) may also work in addition to the plain white. > > Chuck > > > Carol K. 414-444-1514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I am very sulfite sensitive (asthma like reaction) and lactose intolerant. I asked for Unithroid based on my research. I took it for a week and didn't have any problems. I'm off it now until I have a thyroid scan mid-Jan. Pam > > Does anyone know anything about Synthroid having sulfites in it. I have a sensitivity to > sulfa and sulfites and read that the colored pills of synthroid have sulfites. I have asked > my doctor to switch me to the white pill ( .05mg) and it is making a difference. No more > puffy face or puffiness of the rest of my body. > > Venezia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 this is a new one I have never heard b4!!! why would sulfites be in Armour? let's ask the makers of $inthroid! they'll tell us the truth. Gracia , Thanks for your response to my inquiry about sulfites and synthroid. I am sorry you have had to deal with this, also but I am glad that it does not seem to all be in my head. Tomorrow I am going to try and contact King Pharmaceuticals, the maker of Levoxyl and find out if they have sulfites in it and how much. If your interested, I will post what I find out. 1-866-538-6995 is their number if you wanted to contact them yourself. May I ask what you are taking now for your thyroid? I heard Armour is very bad for people with a sulfite sensitivity because of the Pork which is what armour comes from. Venizia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Gracia, From what I understand Armour is derived from the pig. Pig is pork. Pork from what I have read at for sulfites is bad for people with a sulfite sensitivity. If you do not have a sensitivity it should be no problem for you and you are lucky. I also spoke with King Pharmaceutical the makers of Levoxyl and Levoxyl for hypothyroidism states it does not contain sulfites. So I guess it's another call to my endo for another change. I know the synthroid is not working. She's going to love me!! :-) Venezia > > this is a new one I have never heard b4!!! why would sulfites be in Armour? let's ask the makers of $inthroid! they'll tell us the truth. > Gracia > > > , > > Thanks for your response to my inquiry about sulfites and synthroid. I am sorry you have > had to deal with this, also but I am glad that it does not seem to all be in my head. > > Tomorrow I am going to try and contact King Pharmaceuticals, the maker of Levoxyl and > find out if they have sulfites in it and how much. If your interested, I will post what I find > out. 1-866-538-6995 is their number if you wanted to contact them yourself. > > May I ask what you are taking now for your thyroid? I heard Armour is very bad for people > with a sulfite sensitivity because of the Pork which is what armour comes from. > > Venizia > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hi Venizia! Sorry, I've been meaning to answer your question...First, I have hashimoto thyroiditis, which is autoimmune, and I believe was triggered from my medical discharge with " undifferentiated connective tissue disease. " I have also been told my a couple of medical doctors that it could have been from the vaccines I recieved while in the service. Of course, no one really knows...but I was on synthroid, and it made me puff up like a balloon, and then a natropath told me to get off of it, and immediately, I felt better. Then, I did 2 liver flushes (www.modernmanna.com) and went of gluten, started walking, getting sunshine, doing contrast showers, and I went from 210lbs to 135 in about 1 year, without ANY drugs! Amazingly, my TSH was STILL High! Who knew what the weight loss was all about. Well, I started to feel bad again, (after a very stressful event) and relapsed. I found an over the counter thyroid hormone replacement that apparently doesn't have TSH in it, (www.elizabethdane.com) and that seemed to help, but I can't confirm this with TSH, as I don't have any tests since this. But, I also started doing some mercury detox too. Now, I am doing some homeopathy with thyroid replacement, some more detoxing and cleansing, and I will let you know more as I find out. Do you have autoimmune? I was considering Armour, but that has sulfites? I also need T3, so Levoxil doesn't have it either. And, also I am taking selenium too. What are you taking? Blessings! venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: May I ask what you are taking now for your thyroid? I heard Armour is very bad for people with a sulfite sensitivity because of the Pork which is what armour comes from. Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 well I know pig is pork but where are the sulfites coming from? Gracia Gracia, From what I understand Armour is derived from the pig. Pig is pork. Pork from what I have read at for sulfites is bad for people with a sulfite sensitivity. If you do not have a sensitivity it should be no problem for you and you are lucky. I also spoke with King Pharmaceutical the makers of Levoxyl and Levoxyl for hypothyroidism states it does not contain sulfites. So I guess it's another call to my endo for another change. I know the synthroid is not working. She's going to love me!! :-) Venezia --- Recent Activity a.. 21New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Gracia, Someone posted this info on " Sulfitesnomore " I am trying to find out who that was so that I can get it clarified. I will probably contact the company that makes Armour and ask them to be sure. Not all info on these sites is going to be totally accurate but I am glad for all these people and the info that they have....they have been a great help to me. I am glad they are out there because one can feel quite alone with some of these ailments. It is up to each of us, if we do not agree, to find out and do the research. Will let you know what I find out. Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote: > > > well I know pig is pork but where are the sulfites coming from? > Gracia > > Gracia, > > From what I understand Armour is derived from the pig. Pig is pork. Pork from what I have > read at for sulfites is bad for people with a sulfite sensitivity. If you do > not have a sensitivity it should be no problem for you and you are lucky. > > I also spoke with King Pharmaceutical the makers of Levoxyl and Levoxyl for > hypothyroidism states it does not contain sulfites. So I guess it's another call to my endo > for another change. I know the synthroid is not working. She's going to love me!! :-) > > Venezia > > --- > Recent Activity > a.. 21New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Gracia, You wrote: > > well I know pig is pork but where are the sulfites coming from? There are trace amounts of sulfites in all tissues, more in some glands. In fact, sulfate/sulfite is involved in the conversion of T4 to T3. However, the amount left in the dessicated medication should be truly minuscule. A piece of bacon should contain much more. According to Forest Laboratories, they do not use sulfides or sulfites in the processing of Armour, although it could be helpful as an antioxidant or biocide preservative. I also cannot find any source for sulfites reportedly in the synthetic T4s. A very tiny amount is used in some of the dyes, which also have been reported to cause very similar sensitivity reactions, particularly for people allergic to aspirin. However, this would contribute amounts in the nanogram range, not milligram. Is it possible the units given by Abbott Labs was micrograms rather than mg? That would make a lot more sense. Even with hypersensitivity to sulfites, I believe you need more than one milligram to insure a reaction. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Chuck When I contacted Abbott Labs, the person I spoke with did say milligrams however that is not to say that he did not get the info wrong. All I know is I have a reaction to synthroid, as do others with a lot of the same symptoms I exhibit. I just wish I knew what in it, I am reacting to. Thanks for the info. Very Interesting!! Venizia > > > > well I know pig is pork but where are the sulfites coming from? > > There are trace amounts of sulfites in all tissues, more in some glands. > In fact, sulfate/sulfite is involved in the conversion of T4 to T3. > However, the amount left in the dessicated medication should be truly > minuscule. A piece of bacon should contain much more. > > According to Forest Laboratories, they do not use sulfides or sulfites > in the processing of Armour, although it could be helpful as an > antioxidant or biocide preservative. > > I also cannot find any source for sulfites reportedly in the synthetic > T4s. A very tiny amount is used in some of the dyes, which also have > been reported to cause very similar sensitivity reactions, particularly > for people allergic to aspirin. However, this would contribute amounts > in the nanogram range, not milligram. Is it possible the units given by > Abbott Labs was micrograms rather than mg? That would make a lot more sense. > > Even with hypersensitivity to sulfites, I believe you need more than one > milligram to insure a reaction. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Venizia, You wrote: > > When I contacted Abbott Labs, the person I spoke with did say milligrams... > I just wish I knew what in it, I am reacting to. ... At this point I would still suspect the coloring agents over sulfites, although that is possible too. (1) Their inclusion in the ingredients is widely published. (2) We know people sensitive to sulfites or aspirin have similar reactions to them. (3) I can't seem to find anything about sulfites being in Synthroid. Please let us know if you find any more about sulfites in the synthetics. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in. Not what was put ingredients from other sources. Someone with a sulfite sensitivity has to be aware of any corn or potato derivative in the products they use. Both are commonly washed with a sulfite solution prior to being used as ingredients. You may not see a sulfite listed, and the company may say they do not use sulfites, but it is there. The list of corn derivatives is extensive http://www.cornallergens.com/list/corn-allergen-list.php. That said, the other problem with allergies/intolerances is that each person's level of intolerance may be different. I cannot have any pork product at all, others can eat certain hams. Some of us cannot even tolerate the gelatin (derived from pork) when taking medications. It is almost impossible to really figure out the levels of sulfites in some products, thyroid meds are just one. If someone is reacting to Synthoid, it is well worth the effort to try another med. I have done fine on Unithroid but only was able to take it for a week then had to come off to await a thyroid scan. Armour is something I would not personally go near but other sulfite sensitive people may do fine with it. Very few doctors, companies, pharmacists, etc get sulfite intolerances. You cannot depend on them to watch out for you. > > > > When I contacted Abbott Labs, the person I spoke with did say milligrams... > > I just wish I knew what in it, I am reacting to. ... > > At this point I would still suspect the coloring agents over sulfites, > although that is possible too. > > (1) Their inclusion in the ingredients is widely published. > (2) We know people sensitive to sulfites or aspirin have similar > reactions to them. > (3) I can't seem to find anything about sulfites being in Synthroid. > > Please let us know if you find any more about sulfites in the synthetics. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 engspotbunny, Thank you!! This has been very helpful. Are you back on Unithroid and if you are, may I ask how you are doing on it. I am now taking levoxyl. I was on synthroid. I tried Nature- throid, thought I had a reaction to it but as I am reading more about sulfites, I think it may have been a reaction to what I ate that day and not the Nature-throid but I went off the Nature-throid that day because my reaction was so bad. Venizia > > > > > > When I contacted Abbott Labs, the person I spoke with did say milligrams... > > > I just wish I knew what in it, I am reacting to. ... > > > > At this point I would still suspect the coloring agents over sulfites, > > although that is possible too. > > > > (1) Their inclusion in the ingredients is widely published. > > (2) We know people sensitive to sulfites or aspirin have similar > > reactions to them. > > (3) I can't seem to find anything about sulfites being in Synthroid. > > > > Please let us know if you find any more about sulfites in the synthetics. > > > > Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 engspotbunny, You wrote: > > The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, > is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in.... I dug up a couple of items: Pork at most contains about 1 ppm of natural sulfites. I can see where a few bites of pork roast might be a problem, but a small Armour pill seems less likely. It depends on the degree of sensitivity. People with the greatest problem have both a toxic reaction to sulfites and lack an enzyme that metabolizes and eliminates it. The chemical structure of 6 out of 7 FD & C colors has SO3 attached. Thus, the colorings are indeed a source of sulfite. However, these colors are difficult to digest and often pass through the system intact. This means they are at best a very weak source of sulfite. Plus, they are tiny concentrations in a small pill. Again, it would take hypersensitivity for that to make a difference. This explains how Abbott Labs can say they have 2.9 mg of sulfites in each pill. However, it also suggests that many OTC and prescription drugs are full of sulfite. Unless you have a white pill, you are probably getting at least one FD & C coloring. People who are hypersensitive to sulfites need to watch out for these hidden sulfites. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hi Chuck, What about sulphates? That is Sulfur + Oxygen. We have sulphates in everything. They use Sodium Sulphates in food, detergents, dyes, laxatives, wood processing, paper, soap, candles, and most fabrics, rayon, Medicines etc. Should someone with sulfur allergies eliminate these things also? I have an allergie to most detergents. I can only use Tide on my clothes. fThank You, D999 Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: engspotbunny, You wrote: > > The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, > is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in.... I dug up a couple of items: Pork at most contains about 1 ppm of natural sulfites. I can see where a few bites of pork roast might be a problem, but a small Armour pill seems less likely. It depends on the degree of sensitivity. People with the greatest problem have both a toxic reaction to sulfites and lack an enzyme that metabolizes and eliminates it. The chemical structure of 6 out of 7 FD & C colors has SO3 attached. Thus, the colorings are indeed a source of sulfite. However, these colors are difficult to digest and often pass through the system intact. This means they are at best a very weak source of sulfite. Plus, they are tiny concentrations in a small pill. Again, it would take hypersensitivity for that to make a difference. This explains how Abbott Labs can say they have 2.9 mg of sulfites in each pill. However, it also suggests that many OTC and prescription drugs are full of sulfite. Unless you have a white pill, you are probably getting at least one FD & C coloring. People who are hypersensitive to sulfites need to watch out for these hidden sulfites. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hi Chuck, What about sulphates? That is Sulfur + Oxygen. We have sulphates in everything. They use Sodium Sulphates in food, detergents, dyes, laxatives, wood processing, paper, soap, candles, and most fabrics, rayon, Medicines etc. Should someone with sulfur allergies eliminate these things also? I have an allergie to most detergents. I can only use Tide on my clothes. Thank You, D999 Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: engspotbunny, You wrote: > > The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, > is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in.... I dug up a couple of items: Pork at most contains about 1 ppm of natural sulfites. I can see where a few bites of pork roast might be a problem, but a small Armour pill seems less likely. It depends on the degree of sensitivity. People with the greatest problem have both a toxic reaction to sulfites and lack an enzyme that metabolizes and eliminates it. The chemical structure of 6 out of 7 FD & C colors has SO3 attached. Thus, the colorings are indeed a source of sulfite. However, these colors are difficult to digest and often pass through the system intact. This means they are at best a very weak source of sulfite. Plus, they are tiny concentrations in a small pill. Again, it would take hypersensitivity for that to make a difference. This explains how Abbott Labs can say they have 2.9 mg of sulfites in each pill. However, it also suggests that many OTC and prescription drugs are full of sulfite. Unless you have a white pill, you are probably getting at least one FD & C coloring. People who are hypersensitive to sulfites need to watch out for these hidden sulfites. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Dauphine, You wrote: > What about sulphates? That is Sulfur + Oxygen. ... Both sulphates and sulfites involve sulfur and oxygen. The sulphate ion is SO4, while sulfite is SO3. As you say, sulphates are everywhere, so the sensitivity to sulfites rarely, if ever, carries over to sulphates. It is a very different chemistry, although sulphates can be converted to sulfites. Allergic contact dermatitis from washing compounds is more often a reaction to either alkali or detergent (irritants), or to added fragrance, than to the sulphate salt. The most common other causes of _allergic_ dermatitis are nickel, silicone rubber (in gloves), dyes, permanent press chemicals, preservatives, and formaldehyde. Some of the preservatives used in shampoo and lotions will release formaldehyde. Sulphate, by comparison, is relatively benign. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I have part one of the thyroid uptake and scan today, the second part tomorrow. Then I can start taking the Unithroid again! I felt a difference after just one week a month ago so I am really looking forward to taking it again. The fatigue crashes are really a pita. I don't suspect I'll have a problem as I didn't before. Not after a week of taking it. The only good thing about hypo was gaining a few pounds. I lost so much being on this stricted, limited diet that I am actually underweight. I'm 5'4 " and weighed 106. Now it's more like 110. Still, I didn't like gaining weight without changing my eating habits. I eat so little now I couldn't imagine having to cut back! > > engspotbunny, > > Thank you!! This has been very helpful. Are you back on Unithroid and if you are, may I > ask how you are doing on it. I am now taking levoxyl. I was on synthroid. I tried Nature- > throid, thought I had a reaction to it but as I am reading more about sulfites, I think it may > have been a reaction to what I ate that day and not the Nature-throid but I went off the > Nature-throid that day because my reaction was so bad. > > Venizia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Don't ignore confectioner's sugar with or without cornstarch. It's certainly worse with it. Did Abbott add that source as well? Regardless of what the manufacturers say, it's up to us to recognize a reaction and find an alternate med. In the Armour pill you not only have to worry about pork, but calcium sterate, dextrose, microcrystalline cellulose, and sodium starch glycolate. Virtually every ingredient screams sulfite warning! Far more so than the Synthroids etc. Yes, sulfite sensitivity is a metabolic issue, similar to lactose intolerance. And is dose dependent. Not necessarily just one dose, but over hours or days. Since sulfites occur naturally in all foods, it becomes all about finding a balance. > > > > The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, > > is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in.... > > I dug up a couple of items: > > Pork at most contains about 1 ppm of natural sulfites. I can see where a > few bites of pork roast might be a problem, but a small Armour pill > seems less likely. It depends on the degree of sensitivity. People with > the greatest problem have both a toxic reaction to sulfites and lack an > enzyme that metabolizes and eliminates it. > > The chemical structure of 6 out of 7 FD & C colors has SO3 attached. Thus, > the colorings are indeed a source of sulfite. However, these colors are > difficult to digest and often pass through the system intact. This means > they are at best a very weak source of sulfite. Plus, they are tiny > concentrations in a small pill. Again, it would take hypersensitivity > for that to make a difference. > > This explains how Abbott Labs can say they have 2.9 mg of sulfites in > each pill. However, it also suggests that many OTC and prescription > drugs are full of sulfite. Unless you have a white pill, you are > probably getting at least one FD & C coloring. People who are > hypersensitive to sulfites need to watch out for these hidden sulfites. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Well, I know levoxyl has microcrystalline cellulose. Oh how frustrating!!! I have only been on it since last Friday but I can tell something is up....I still have the facial swelling and where I lost 6# when I was taking Nature throid which was only 5 days and my facial swelling went away, I have gain it all back with the levoxyl and than some. I think I will check into Unithroid. I know Donnie takes that and seems to do well on it, also. So what is in microcrystalline cellulose that is the problem? Venizia > > > > > > The problem with sulfites, as well as other food allergies/intolerances, > > > is that manufacturers only have to state what ingredients they put in.... > > > > I dug up a couple of items: > > > > Pork at most contains about 1 ppm of natural sulfites. I can see where a > > few bites of pork roast might be a problem, but a small Armour pill > > seems less likely. It depends on the degree of sensitivity. People with > > the greatest problem have both a toxic reaction to sulfites and lack an > > enzyme that metabolizes and eliminates it. > > > > The chemical structure of 6 out of 7 FD & C colors has SO3 attached. Thus, > > the colorings are indeed a source of sulfite. However, these colors are > > difficult to digest and often pass through the system intact. This means > > they are at best a very weak source of sulfite. Plus, they are tiny > > concentrations in a small pill. Again, it would take hypersensitivity > > for that to make a difference. > > > > This explains how Abbott Labs can say they have 2.9 mg of sulfites in > > each pill. However, it also suggests that many OTC and prescription > > drugs are full of sulfite. Unless you have a white pill, you are > > probably getting at least one FD & C coloring. People who are > > hypersensitive to sulfites need to watch out for these hidden sulfites. > > > > Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 well on it, also. > > So what is in microcrystalline cellulose that is the problem? > corn, which means potential sulfites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 venizia, You wrote: > > Well, I know levoxyl has microcrystalline cellulose. ... > So what is in microcrystalline cellulose that is the problem? I doubt very much that microcrystalline cellulose is the problem. This is basically a very pure form of wood fiber. It is one of the most chemically inert and pure excipients they use in medications. All the organic and inorganic contaminants have been cleaned away. What is left by chemical processing does not react with or dissolve in much of anything your digestive system can throw at it. I don't see sulfites in calcium stearate, dextrose, or sodium starch glycolate, either, although you might react badly to some of these in other ways. The sulfites in Armour are from the natural component in pork. Since the glands have been desiccated, that may be at a higher concentration than in pork roast, but it is still not very much in each pill. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks Chuck. It does make me feel better about using levoxyl but if this facial swelling does not improve, I will probably go back to Naturethroid. I believe microcrystalline cellulose is also in Naturethroid so it probably isn't mc causing my problem. You are so helpful thanks again. Venizia > > > > Well, I know levoxyl has microcrystalline cellulose. ... > > So what is in microcrystalline cellulose that is the problem? > > I doubt very much that microcrystalline cellulose is the problem. This > is basically a very pure form of wood fiber. It is one of the most > chemically inert and pure excipients they use in medications. All the > organic and inorganic contaminants have been cleaned away. What is left > by chemical processing does not react with or dissolve in much of > anything your digestive system can throw at it. I don't see sulfites in > calcium stearate, dextrose, or sodium starch glycolate, either, although > you might react badly to some of these in other ways. > > The sulfites in Armour are from the natural component in pork. Since the > glands have been desiccated, that may be at a higher concentration than > in pork roast, but it is still not very much in each pill. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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