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I take the cortisol for the adrenal insuff. I started on Iodoral and she had a

absolute fit. i'm on DHEA not for sure the dosage have to look.I have seen

others post labs.. I thought maybe it would help to figure out why she changed

the dosage. an others have posted their labs.. how much Ihave spent on doc's and

useless tests over the past 3yrs.. close to 30K and thats out pocket .. now that

we no longer have ins..and I have lost my job along with my husband. its getting

higher and higher..we are on the verge of bankruptcy.

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were natural

but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an earlier post..

the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or

T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5.5 grains..then she switched me to

75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not

good with 4 kids) then she switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at

noon which isn't helping. still crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with

cortisol 20 mg am and progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's,

heparin 10,000 units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but

that's the gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here.. sounds

like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and Fatigue

centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess she to

cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back away from

the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that Ishould see a

shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought with Labcorp and they

won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc.. and my doc's staff isn't

the fastest i do have results from june of this yr. and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill but

not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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do you need help with paying for your medications?

nancie

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an earlier

post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my T3(L-triiodothroyni ne

and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5.5 grains..then she

switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am and at noon still crashed

my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg

am and at noon which isn't helping. still crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along

with cortisol 20 mg am and progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron,

omega's, heparin 10,000 units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose

track but that's the gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and Fatigue

centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess she to

cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back away from

the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that Ishould see a

shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought with Labcorp and they

won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc.. and my doc's staff isn't

the fastest i do have results from june of this yr. and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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Have you tried filing for disability? May work. OTOH bankruptcy isn't all

that bad.

CW

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I take the cortisol for the adrenal insuff. I started on Iodoral and she had

a absolute fit. i'm on DHEA not for sure the dosage have to look.I have seen

others post labs.. I thought maybe it would help to figure out why she

changed the dosage. an others have posted their labs.. how much Ihave spent

on doc's and useless tests over the past 3yrs.. close to 30K and thats out

pocket .. now that we no longer have ins..and I have lost my job along with

my husband. its getting higher and higher..we are on the verge of bankruptcy

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an

earlier post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5

5 grains..then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am

and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me

in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't helping. still

crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with cortisol 20 mg am and

progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's, heparin 10,000

units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but that's the

gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and

Fatigue centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess

she to cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back

away from the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that

Ishould see a shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought

with Labcorp and they won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc..

and my doc's staff isn't the fastest i do have results from june of this yr.

and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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cortisol is fine but not 20mg all in the am

who cares if doc has a fit it's your body.

if youwant to get well you must get the proper meds. I ma really sorry that

docs don't know what they are---just get them. no charge here :))

JUST DO IT

Gracia

I take the cortisol for the adrenal insuff. I started on Iodoral and she had a

absolute fit. i'm on DHEA not for sure the dosage have to look.I have seen

others post labs.. I thought maybe it would help to figure out why she changed

the dosage. an others have posted their labs.. how much Ihave spent on doc's and

useless tests over the past 3yrs.. close to 30K and thats out pocket .. now that

we no longer have ins..and I have lost my job along with my husband. its getting

higher and higher..we are on the verge of bankruptcy.

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an earlier

post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my T3(L-triiodothroyni ne

and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5.5 grains..then she

switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am and at noon still crashed

my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg

am and at noon which isn't helping. still crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along

with cortisol 20 mg am and progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron,

omega's, heparin 10,000 units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose

track but that's the gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and Fatigue

centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess she to

cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back away from

the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that Ishould see a

shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought with Labcorp and they

won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc.. and my doc's staff isn't

the fastest i do have results from june of this yr. and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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yeah i'm in the appeal stages now.. met with my lawyer a week b4 thanksgiving

just wait and see. the state of Indiana is a joke.. . it's funny though I had to

file so so many reports, worksheets and releases for the gov't when you are as

sick as I have been over the past year the last thing you want to do is answer

questions like do you mow the lawn, do you care for your children, can you take

a shower, are you depressed if so why?? 4get the financial part has anyone dealt

with marital issues because of the hypo.. the spouse not getting it?? and the

family not getting, it ,all of my aunts and unlces and grandmother were HYPER so

they don't have a clue..

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an

earlier post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5

5 grains..then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am

and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me

in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't helping. still

crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with cortisol 20 mg am and

progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's, heparin 10,000

units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but that's the

gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and

Fatigue centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess

she to cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back

away from the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that

Ishould see a shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought

with Labcorp and they won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc..

and my doc's staff isn't the fastest i do have results from june of this yr.

and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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Yes the world doesn't understand us. We had a discussion a while back about

spouses not getting it. Maybe try and search the archives. That's why this

group is so good cause we understand each other, well at least some of us do

Some have no symptoms, but they still are compassionate and believe us.

There are articles and such I think you'll find a link to in the archives.

It's okay to just look at the laundry right now. It is so hard having a

family and being hypo. I have 5 kids so I know how hard it can be with an

un supportive family. The kids don't understand.

cw

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yeah i'm in the appeal stages now.. met with my lawyer a week b4

thanksgiving just wait and see. the state of Indiana is a joke.. . it's

funny though I had to file so so many reports, worksheets and releases for

the gov't when you are as sick as I have been over the past year the last

thing you want to do is answer questions like do you mow the lawn, do you

care for your children, can you take a shower, are you depressed if so why??

4get the financial part has anyone dealt with marital issues because of the

hypo.. the spouse not getting it?? and the family not getting, it ,all of my

aunts and unlces and grandmother were HYPER so they don't have a clue..

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an

earlier post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5

5 grains..then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am

and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me

in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't helping. still

crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with cortisol 20 mg am and

progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's, heparin 10,000

units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but that's the

gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and

Fatigue centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess

she to cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back

away from the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that

Ishould see a shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought

with Labcorp and they won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc..

and my doc's staff isn't the fastest i do have results from june of this yr.

and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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actually I'm sincerely blessed with the greatest parents anyone could ask for

... they have help out with my meds, they are both 65 and they keep my 2 youngest

who are 3yrs and 18 mos day or night no questions asked..

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were natural

but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an earlier post..

the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or

T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5.5 grains..then she switched me to

75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not

good with 4 kids) then she switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at

noon which isn't helping. still crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with

cortisol 20 mg am and progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's,

heparin 10,000 units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but

that's the gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here.. sounds

like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and Fatigue

centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess she to

cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back away from

the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that Ishould see a

shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought with Labcorp and they

won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc.. and my doc's staff isn't

the fastest i do have results from june of this yr. and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill but

not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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Hi Suzanne,

I think there are some issues with right now. I am not seeing a lot of

my posts either. I know a lot my posts don't show up either.

I am sorry to hear that you are having a really hard time. I know how you

feel. It totally sucks when you feel helpless and hopeless. This disease

really messes around. You really need to find a good doc there in UK. One that

is open to armour and more holistic methods. have you looked into homeopathy?

I know they have it there in UK.

Don't get discouraged. Once you get the right treatment, you will feel a lot

better.

Blessings and Hugs,

Suzanne Booth <suegeoboo@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone. I Wonder why some of my input does not appear. And to be

honest I wonder why sometimes you only speak to each other. I am from the UK -

an English Rose - Seriously I have had a really bad time lately. I actually

wanted to die

Joy <jwalker8869@...> wrote:

Chuck..

I don't have a clue that 's why I'm here.. I just spoke to my former boss and

she gave me my lab results that were done on nov 16th this is the reason, I

guess she put me on the straight T3 .. She had me take the 75/75 mcg and the T3

at 7am then wait 8hrs and have the blood drawn. honestly I felt better taking

the 75/75mcg and straight T3 at 6am then again between 1-3pm.. it didn't keep me

up at night and I had no side effects..

free T4 was 0.70 range 0.89-1.76

Free T3 10.16 range 2.3 -4.0

I thought I one time she order a reverse T3 but that was from Labcorp.. or it

might have been Quest.. so I wouldn't have those results.. I have all my bottles

left full of my T3 and T4..in a backpack ,if you were me and hypothectically

speaking what would you dose yourself???

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

Joy,

You wrote:

> ... the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

> T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5

> to 5.5 grains....

Even the synthetics are " bio-identical. " This suggests some obtuse

marketing strategy, which would make sense if there were such a thing as

a thyroxine mimetic. There isn't, so this raises my suspicions. Even

other mammals have the same T3 and T4 molecules. The only thing species

specific is the amount and proportion of thyroxines produced.

> ... then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took

> it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she

> switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't

> helping....

T3 only medications are more difficult to manage due to the short

biological half life (about a day). You might do better spacing your

dosages into three or four per day instead of two, but I suspect you

mainly need more.

If you had a thyroidectomy, the antibody tests don't make sense, either.

We know why you aren't producing thyroxines. Why would they order those

tests?

Chuck

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Thank YOU!!! all of you for listening and for the advice!!

Joy L

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an

earlier post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5

5 grains..then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am

and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me

in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't helping. still

crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with cortisol 20 mg am and

progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's, heparin 10,000

units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but that's the

gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and

Fatigue centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess

she to cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back

away from the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that

Ishould see a shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought

with Labcorp and they won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc..

and my doc's staff isn't the fastest i do have results from june of this yr.

and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

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Joy you can be completely well with proper medical care. you can be there

for your kids.

Gracia

yeah i'm in the appeal stages now.. met with my lawyer a week b4 thanksgiving

just wait and see. the state of Indiana is a joke.. . it's funny though I had to

file so so many reports, worksheets and releases for the gov't when you are as

sick as I have been over the past year the last thing you want to do is answer

questions like do you mow the lawn, do you care for your children, can you take

a shower, are you depressed if so why?? 4get the financial part has anyone dealt

with marital issues because of the hypo.. the spouse not getting it?? and the

family not getting, it ,all of my aunts and unlces and grandmother were HYPER so

they don't have a clue..

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hi Suzanne

I think you just have to yell HELP and someone will respond.

Where in the UK?

XO

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Hi suzanne.. same here with .. I don't post because I'm not anywhere near

as smart as the others in this group..I'm just learning myself.I feel for you I

know what you are going thru right now.. my little ones are tearing the house

apart.. got to go.. take care..

Joy L

Re: Cytomel Questions

Joy,

You wrote:

> ... the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

> T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5

> to 5.5 grains....

Even the synthetics are " bio-identical. " This suggests some obtuse

marketing strategy, which would make sense if there were such a thing as

a thyroxine mimetic. There isn't, so this raises my suspicions. Even

other mammals have the same T3 and T4 molecules. The only thing species

specific is the amount and proportion of thyroxines produced.

> ... then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took

> it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she

> switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't

> helping....

T3 only medications are more difficult to manage due to the short

biological half life (about a day). You might do better spacing your

dosages into three or four per day instead of two, but I suspect you

mainly need more.

If you had a thyroidectomy, the antibody tests don't make sense, either.

We know why you aren't producing thyroxines. Why would they order those

tests?

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Hello Suzanne,

For quite a few days we have all been experiencing weird things with . My

posts

haven't all gone in either, and I haven't been receiving many of them. Hang in

there, we

are still here, but have not control over and what it does. Tell us what

is wrong,

and we'll do everything we can to help you.

Hugs,

Roni

Suzanne Booth <suegeoboo@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone. I Wonder why some of my input does not appear. And to be

honest I wonder why sometimes you only speak to each other. I am from the UK -

an English Rose - Seriously I have had a really bad time lately. I actually

wanted to die

Joy <jwalker8869@...> wrote:

Chuck..

I don't have a clue that 's why I'm here.. I just spoke to my former boss and

she gave me my lab results that were done on nov 16th this is the reason, I

guess she put me on the straight T3 .. She had me take the 75/75 mcg and the T3

at 7am then wait 8hrs and have the blood drawn. honestly I felt better taking

the 75/75mcg and straight T3 at 6am then again between 1-3pm.. it didn't keep me

up at night and I had no side effects..

free T4 was 0.70 range 0.89-1.76

Free T3 10.16 range 2.3 -4.0

I thought I one time she order a reverse T3 but that was from Labcorp.. or it

might have been Quest.. so I wouldn't have those results.. I have all my bottles

left full of my T3 and T4..in a backpack ,if you were me and hypothectically

speaking what would you dose yourself???

Joy

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Joy,

You wrote:

> ... the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

> T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5

> to 5.5 grains....

Even the synthetics are " bio-identical. " This suggests some obtuse

marketing strategy, which would make sense if there were such a thing as

a thyroxine mimetic. There isn't, so this raises my suspicions. Even

other mammals have the same T3 and T4 molecules. The only thing species

specific is the amount and proportion of thyroxines produced.

> ... then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took

> it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she

> switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't

> helping....

T3 only medications are more difficult to manage due to the short

biological half life (about a day). You might do better spacing your

dosages into three or four per day instead of two, but I suspect you

mainly need more.

If you had a thyroidectomy, the antibody tests don't make sense, either.

We know why you aren't producing thyroxines. Why would they order those

tests?

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I'm so sorry you are having all this trouble. Not feeling well and not having

the

money to throw at the doctors and pharmacists is a terrible feeling. I acually

don't have anything to add right this minute, just wanted to say that I can

understand your anxiety.

Roni

Joy <jwalker8869@...> wrote:

I take the cortisol for the adrenal insuff. I started on Iodoral and

she had a absolute fit. i'm on DHEA not for sure the dosage have to look.I have

seen others post labs.. I thought maybe it would help to figure out why she

changed the dosage. an others have posted their labs.. how much Ihave spent on

doc's and useless tests over the past 3yrs.. close to 30K and thats out pocket

... now that we no longer have ins..and I have lost my job along with my husband.

its getting higher and higher..we are on the verge of bankruptcy.

Joy

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I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were natural

but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an earlier post..

the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or

T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5.5 grains..then she switched me to

75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not

good with 4 kids) then she switched me in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at

noon which isn't helping. still crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with

cortisol 20 mg am and progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's,

heparin 10,000 units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but

that's the gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here.. sounds

like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and Fatigue

centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess she to

cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back away from

the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that Ishould see a

shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought with Labcorp and they

won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc.. and my doc's staff isn't

the fastest i do have results from june of this yr. and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill but

not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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I have hypo and fibromyalgia, and Nobody in my family gets it. My friends

don't either, because I don't LOOK sick.

Roni

Joy <jwalker8869@...> wrote:

yeah i'm in the appeal stages now.. met with my lawyer a week b4

thanksgiving just wait and see. the state of Indiana is a joke.. . it's funny

though I had to file so so many reports, worksheets and releases for the gov't

when you are as sick as I have been over the past year the last thing you want

to do is answer questions like do you mow the lawn, do you care for your

children, can you take a shower, are you depressed if so why?? 4get the

financial part has anyone dealt with marital issues because of the hypo.. the

spouse not getting it?? and the family not getting, it ,all of my aunts and

unlces and grandmother were HYPER so they don't have a clue..

Joy

Re: Cytomel Questions

I just can't believe what I am reading!!

why would you take 20mg cortisol am????

your doc may be super nice but she has no clue.

actually you don't need to post labs, just treat your condition.

Iodoral 50mg at least

cortef 5mg 4X a day

DHEA

Armour at least 300mg

you will get your life back on the above. how much $$$ have you spent on

docs????

Gracia

Chuck,

as for specific med's they come form ITC pharmacy.. I was told they were

natural but you told me the only thing natural was the the veg cap in an

earlier post.. the labels read.. " Bio-Identical thyroid HRT. my

T3(L-triiodothroyni ne and/or T4(Levothyroxine) ) those ranged from 2.5 to 5

5 grains..then she switched me to 75/75 mcg of the T3/T4 and I took it am

and at noon still crashed my 4pm (not good with 4 kids) then she switched me

in Nov to straight T3 100mcg am and at noon which isn't helping. still

crashing around 6 instead of 4.. along with cortisol 20 mg am and

progesterone pm 50mg days 14-28, choleated iron, omega's, heparin 10,000

units 1cc bid. along with 25 other supplements I lose track but that's the

gist of it all..

My doc is in Troy in Michigan and I'm in SE indiana ( only raining here..

sounds like you all are having a heck of a time) she from the Fibro and

Fatigue centers.. she has done wonders for me She stays with it but I guess

she to cautious with increasing my dose.. all my other doc's told me to back

away from the table (which i wasn't eating anyway) and to live with it that

Ishould see a shirnk.. I don't have any recent lab results I have fought

with Labcorp and they won't give them to me I threaten them with hippa etc..

and my doc's staff isn't the fastest i do have results from june of this yr.

and they are :

thyroglobulin, quantitative <0.5 range 0.5-55.0

antithyroglobulin Ab Siemens (DPC) ICMA methodology <20 range 0-40

T4 free,Direct, S T4, Free direct 1.01 range 0.61-1.76

TPO Ab 19 range 0-34

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.8 HIGH range 2.3-4.2

I'm also S/P thyroidectomy if thay makes any difference in the lab results..

I will try and get my latest labs.. they have no problem sending me the bill

but not the results..

Thanks for your help!!

Joy

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Suzanne,

You wrote:

>

> ... I Wonder why some of my input does not appear. And to be

> honest I wonder why sometimes you only speak to each other....

Welcome to the list. New subscribers often have to wait the better part

of a month before their posts are allowed through. We don't know why.

Please include specifics, both what you are taking and any test results.

And, repeat them often. We may not remember from one post to the next

which set of circumstances apply to your case.

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It took my posts almost a week to show up... still waiting for more, lol

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

hi Suzanne

I think you just have to yell HELP and someone will respond.

Where in the UK?

XO

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I've been hearing that is playing games again, so don't give up.

I do remember reading a post recently that was so convoluted that I

could not figure it out. Was that yours?

If you don't see your post in a few days [it should be usually within a

day or two] then post again. I personally am not familiar with taking

Cytomel.

You're not alone in feeling utterly horrible; as I've seen many here

describe feeling that way with many painful symptoms. I feel

embarrassed to be here sometimes; because I have no symptoms.

Regards,

>

>

> Re: Cytomel Questions

>

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> Posted by: " Suzanne Booth " suegeoboo@...

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>

>

> Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:48 pm (PST)

>

> Hi Everyone. I Wonder why some of my input does not appear. And to be

> honest I wonder why sometimes you only speak to each other. I am from

> the UK - an English Rose - Seriously I have had a really bad time

> lately. I actually wanted to die

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None of my own input is appearing on my computer. The only way I know

that SOMEONE got it is if it gets answered.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

I've been hearing that is playing games again, so don't give up.

I do remember reading a post recently that was so convoluted that I

could not figure it out. Was that yours?

If you don't see your post in a few days [it should be usually within a

day or two] then post again. I personally am not familiar with taking

Cytomel.

You're not alone in feeling utterly horrible; as I've seen many here

describe feeling that way with many painful symptoms. I feel

embarrassed to be here sometimes; because I have no symptoms.

Regards,

>

>

> Re: Cytomel Questions

>

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zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMxMTQEc2V\

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>

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> Posted by: " Suzanne Booth " suegeoboo@...

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>

>

> Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:48 pm (PST)

>

> Hi Everyone. I Wonder why some of my input does not appear. And to be

> honest I wonder why sometimes you only speak to each other. I am from

> the UK - an English Rose - Seriously I have had a really bad time

> lately. I actually wanted to die

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I take cytomel but not alone, I also take armour.. The half life of

Cytomel is about 8 hours.

Bev

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>

> Anyone else on Cytomel Only?

>

> I heard that Cytomel only last in your blood for about 4 hours.

Has anyone

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> Would like to hear how people like Cytomel.

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Bev,

You wrote:

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> I take cytomel but not alone, I also take armour.. The half life of

> Cytomel is about 8 hours.

In humans, it is more like 24 hours, but it varies depending on your

thyroid status.

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Hi Gracia,

I live in the North West on England near Liverpool. Every now and again I do

yell HELP and I get help but I seem to go round in circles. Most of the time I

am well and feel well balanced but before I know it I am screaming or depressed

and unsociable or wanting to drink alcohol to temporarily mask it (only to feel

more depressed). Sometimes I just want to sleep. I could sleep for England. I

am like up and down a round and round. Thanks for your response. It does help

:-)

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

hi Suzanne

I think you just have to yell HELP and someone will respond.

Where in the UK?

XO

Gracia

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