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Has anyone tried it...

Success???

Can anyone tell me what the ingredients are???

Thank you...

I'm so frusterated... this is the 3rd time I have put on a bunch of

weight from my levels going off...

This time is the proving the most difficult to remove the weight!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,

Pamela

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>

> I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using Alvidar. ... It

really has

> improved my ability in sleeping through the night. ...

Valerian root will do that all by itself. Also, if you take calcium

supplements, take them right before bed.

Chuck

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You might see some improvement with Alvidar. Probably about the same

you would see with a placebo IMHO. But the placebo would cost a lot less.

6a.

ALVIDAR

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mattysmummyxoxo <mattysmummyxoxo>

Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:08 pm (PST)

Has anyone tried it...

Success???

Can anyone tell me what the ingredients are???

Thank you...

I'm so frusterated... this is the 3rd time I have put on a bunch of

weight from my levels going off...

This time is the proving the most difficult to remove the weight!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,

Pamela

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I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended 3 mg

Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again and

had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about 9:30 every

night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired [again!]

and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I started

the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep " feeling

that I would often get. YMMV.

IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide more

than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different, despite

our similarities.

6b.

Re: ALVIDAR

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZjJwcDZ\

pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTgEc2V\

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Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@...

<mailto:lizzeee21@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

mayes42 <mayes42>

Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

Hi Pamela,

I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

Alvidar. It

contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

could be

just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It really

has

improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

Hypos, hava

a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all morning

or in

the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it. We all

know

it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

helped. My

night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend it.

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Where would I find something like that???

Thank you...

Pamela

<res075oh@...> wrote:

You might see some improvement with Alvidar. Probably about the same

you would see with a placebo IMHO. But the placebo would cost a lot less.

6a.

ALVIDAR

<hypothyroidism/message/25216;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc3RhY3B\

zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTYEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzg2NDM5Mg-->

Posted by: " PAMELA " PAMELA@...

<mailto:PAMELA@...?Subject=Re:%20ALVIDAR>

mattysmummyxoxo <mattysmummyxoxo>

Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:08 pm (PST)

Has anyone tried it...

Success???

Can anyone tell me what the ingredients are???

Thank you...

I'm so frusterated... this is the 3rd time I have put on a bunch of

weight from my levels going off...

This time is the proving the most difficult to remove the weight!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,

Pamela

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Same here... it was not until I started adrenal therapy that I tried Melatonin

again and IT WORKED!!! I have to take clonopin to sleep everynight as I have

constant pain. But even with that I could not fall asleep. The melatonin makes

me sleepy!!! ;)

Yay!!! Something worked.

Pamela

p.s. it is full of excellent ingredients for your Immune System!!!

<res075oh@...> wrote:

I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended 3 mg

Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again and

had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about 9:30 every

night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired [again!]

and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I started

the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep " feeling

that I would often get. YMMV.

IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide more

than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different, despite

our similarities.

6b.

Re: ALVIDAR

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZjJwcDZ\

pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTgEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzg2NDM5Mg-->

Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@...

<mailto:lizzeee21@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

mayes42 <mayes42>

Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

Hi Pamela,

I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

Alvidar. It

contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

could be

just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It really

has

improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

Hypos, hava

a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all morning

or in

the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it. We all

know

it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

helped. My

night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend it.

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This is from my personal experience.

A bit about Melatonin. If you are prone to depression, it is a

serontonin inhibitor which is the opposite of what depressed people

need (serontonin uptake).

The Valerian Root in the Alvidar is what I was given in Germany

while in the hospital with a high risk pregnancy to get me to sleep

due to the constant anxiety.

The St s Wort in Alvidar works as an antidepressant. Many

German Drs start depression treatment with St s Wort, vacation,

and spa treatments.

So maybe the Alvidar isn't working on the Thyroid but it is working

on your mental health and sleep value.

Christy

>

> I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended 3

mg

> Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again

and

> had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about 9:30

every

> night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired

[again!]

> and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I

started

> the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep "

feeling

> that I would often get. YMMV.

>

> IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide

more

> than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different,

despite

> our similarities.

>

>

>

>

> 6b.

>

>

> Re: ALVIDAR

>

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

MTJxZjJwcDZpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwO

DIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTgEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzg2NDM5Mg-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@...

> <mailto:lizzeee21@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

> mayes42 <mayes42>

>

>

> Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

>

> Hi Pamela,

>

> I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

> Alvidar. It

> contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

> could be

> just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It

really

> has

> improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

> Hypos, hava

> a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all

morning

> or in

> the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it.

We all

> know

> it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

> helped. My

> night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend

it.

>

>

>

>

>

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Okay; I'll play it straight. A placebo is a fake medical pill with no

ingredients to correct any medical problem. They are used in medical

tests where some people are given a placebo and others are given the

medication under test. They are also sometimes given to a person a

physician has decided is a hypochondriac.

It's not unusual for up to 1/4 or 1/3 of the people receiving a placebo

to have a positive result.

1d.

Re: ALVIDAR

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mattysmummyxoxo <mattysmummyxoxo>

Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:48 am (PST)

Where would I find something like that???

Thank you...

Pamela

<res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

You might see some improvement with Alvidar. Probably about the same

you would see with a placebo IMHO. But the placebo would cost a lot

less.

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Damn!!! I knew that... Not fair to play tricks on girl that was in car

accident... My memory is caca!!! ; (

::blushes::

Pamela

<res075oh@...> wrote:

Okay; I'll play it straight. A placebo is a fake medical pill with no

ingredients to correct any medical problem. They are used in medical

tests where some people are given a placebo and others are given the

medication under test. They are also sometimes given to a person a

physician has decided is a hypochondriac.

It's not unusual for up to 1/4 or 1/3 of the people receiving a placebo

to have a positive result.

1d.

Re: ALVIDAR

<hypothyroidism/message/25232;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMXQzMDN\

nBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMzIEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzk1MzAxNg-->

Posted by: " PAMELA " PAMELA@...

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mattysmummyxoxo <mattysmummyxoxo>

Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:48 am (PST)

Where would I find something like that???

Thank you...

Pamela

<res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

You might see some improvement with Alvidar. Probably about the same

you would see with a placebo IMHO. But the placebo would cost a lot

less.

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Hi Christy I don't know about the science of your statement - but I

take melatonin and it does not make me depressed - quite the contrary -

I was extremely depressed and my combination of hormones has relieved

it.

Kerry

Re: ALVIDAR

This is from my personal experience.

A bit about Melatonin. If you are prone to depression, it is a

serontonin inhibitor which is the opposite of what depressed people

need (serontonin uptake).

The Valerian Root in the Alvidar is what I was given in Germany

while in the hospital with a high risk pregnancy to get me to sleep

due to the constant anxiety.

The St s Wort in Alvidar works as an antidepressant. Many

German Drs start depression treatment with St s Wort, vacation,

and spa treatments.

So maybe the Alvidar isn't working on the Thyroid but it is working

on your mental health and sleep value.

Christy

>

> I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended 3

mg

> Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again

and

> had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about 9:30

every

> night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired

[again!]

> and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I

started

> the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep "

feeling

> that I would often get. YMMV.

>

> IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide

more

> than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different,

despite

> our similarities.

>

>

>

>

> 6b.

>

>

> Re: ALVIDAR

>

<http://groups.

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD>

/group/hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@...

> <mailto:lizzeee21@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

> mayes42 <http://profiles. <mayes42>

/mayes42>

>

>

> Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

>

> Hi Pamela,

>

> I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

> Alvidar. It

> contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

> could be

> just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It

really

> has

> improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

> Hypos, hava

> a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all

morning

> or in

> the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it.

We all

> know

> it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

> helped. My

> night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend

it.

>

>

>

>

>

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Well it's good that it works for you in that way. I was writing

from my experience.

Christy

> >

> > I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended

3

> mg

> > Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again

> and

> > had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about

9:30

> every

> > night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired

> [again!]

> > and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I

> started

> > the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep "

> feeling

> > that I would often get. YMMV.

> >

> > IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide

> more

> > than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different,

> despite

> > our similarities.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 6b.

> >

> >

> > Re: ALVIDAR

> >

> <http://groups.

>

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

>

> /group/hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

>

MTJxZjJwcDZpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwO

> DIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTgEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzg2NDM5Mg--

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@

> > <mailto:lizzeee21@?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

> > mayes42 <http://profiles. <mayes42>

> /mayes42>

> >

> >

> > Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

> >

> > Hi Pamela,

> >

> > I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

> > Alvidar. It

> > contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

> > could be

> > just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It

> really

> > has

> > improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

> > Hypos, hava

> > a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all

> morning

> > or in

> > the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it.

> We all

> > know

> > it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

> > helped. My

> > night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend

> it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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HI Christy - actually you were saying that it is a serotonin inhibitor -

this isn't true - If it depresses you that isn't the reason. Serotonin

is a precursor of Melatonin - not an inhibitor.

Where did you get this information from? See excerpt below from an

online medical text. Please don't take offence - a lot of people read

these posts and its important to get the information as correct as we

can.

If taking melatonin is making you depressed then maybe you don't have a

deficiency in the first place and that's your body's way of coping with

the excess.

I have heard that some people do much better with Tryptophan to help

sleep. Before I became Hypothyroid I used to use valerian and

passionflower in a tincture - it worked great.

I also found that Hypericum helped to take the edge of depression but it

didn't cure it. Whereas I find that getting adequate T3 into my system

completely takes care of my depression.

kind regards,

Kerry

Melatonin: Synthesis, Secretion and Receptors

The precursor to melatonin is serotonin, a neurotransmitter that itself

is derived from the amino acid tryptophan. Within the pineal gland,

serotonin is acetylated and then methylated to yield melatonin.

<http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/otherendo/melat

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Well it's good that it works for you in that way. I was writing

from my experience.

Christy

> >

> > I've had insomnia all my life [65] and someone here recommended

3

> mg

> > Melatonin. It helps a lot. Last December I started working again

> and

> > had to get up every morning at 5:30 and would go to bed about

9:30

> every

> > night. During that time I slept like a baby. Now I've retired

> [again!]

> > and stay up late so I don't go to sleep so rapidly, but since I

> started

> > the Melatonin I no longer have the " wired, tired, can't sleep "

> feeling

> > that I would often get. YMMV.

> >

> > IMHO for a hypothyroid condition Alvidar cannot possibly provide

> more

> > than minimal or psychological help. But we're all different,

> despite

> > our similarities.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 6b.

> >

> >

> > Re: ALVIDAR

> >

> <http://groups.

>

<http://groups.

<hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD>

/group/hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

>

> /group/hypothyroidism/message/25218;_ylc=X3oD

>

MTJxZjJwcDZpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwO

> DIEbXNnSWQDMjUyMTgEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1Mzg2NDM5Mg--

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " elizabeth mayes " lizzeee21@

> > <mailto:lizzeee21@?Subject=%20Re%3A%20ALVIDAR>

> > mayes42 <http://profiles. <http://profiles.

<mayes42> /mayes42>

> /mayes42>

> >

> >

> > Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:44 am (PST)

> >

> > Hi Pamela,

> >

> > I just wanted to let you know that i am on my 3rd week using

> > Alvidar. It

> > contains mostly herbs like St. s Wart and Valerian Root. It

> > could be

> > just psychological but I must admit that i do feel better. It

> really

> > has

> > improved my ability in sleeping through the night. You know us

> > Hypos, hava

> > a hard time sleeping when we are supposed to instead of all

> morning

> > or in

> > the afternoon. I have lost about 4 pounds since I started it.

> We all

> > know

> > it is healthier to lose weight in smaller increments, so it has

> > helped. My

> > night time binge eating has stopped as well. I would recommend

> it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Has anyone tried Alvidar? And did it help. Sandy

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

really investigate Iodoral

http://www.helpmythyroid.com

Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD

Gracia

Thank you Char and Bev, hugs are nice. You asked how it affects me. I can talk

to you pretty well, although I will frequently forget what I am talking about

and I forget the same words all the time. I do not multi-task very well. I can

no longer see the Gestalt of things very quickly at all. I lost 50 points in

intelligence. So I am very fortunate to be considered average now. I have VERY

low prcessing speeds both auditorily and visually. And florescent lights can

make me have partial temporal lobe seizures. And I even have a dementia rating

of 10%. So with a memory like that nursing is not a good option for the patient.

I wasn't hypo thyroid until after the head injury...even though they say my

hypothyroidism is primary. Everyone on my father's side of the family is

hypothyroid. So I suppose the head injury and the hypothyroidism are

coincidental. BUT, I remain so fatigued.....more like exhausted. I know brain

trauma causes fatigue, but there are few studies out there that tell how long

that can last.

I have joined this group to see if I can glean any info. Not to mention to see

if any of you ladies out there approaching your 40s and 50s have any tips for

the problems we face like more wrinkles, thinner hair, dry skin.

I do have a puffy face much of the time and I see that many here do. But,

actually, that is a symptom of being hypo. My thought is that our bodies must

somehow not utilize all of this synthetic hormone or there is more to this

thyrotropin balance and uptake than most people are able to deal with.

I am still cold, have thinning dry hair, dry skin, major fatigue, painful

muscles, frequent repiratory infections.......all symptoms fo being hypo

thyroid, but since that dern lab paper of tests looks ok.......they give me the

further diagnosis of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. That seems to happen to

many hypothyroid people.

Something isn't right with that picture....you think?

<chuckles> I may as well.

Selah,

jamye

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Sandy,

About a year ago I was looking into this product. I even went as far as to

accept their free

sample offer.....never used it. That was my decision.

You can make up your own mine by going to a couple of website:

Ripoffreport.com.

Also the BBB ( Better Business Bureau of the mid south)

and you can google " Thyrotril " Shomon's 2005. If you have trouble finding

this you

can go to About.com and put in her name. You may be able to find her report

there.

Good luck to you.

Venizia

> really investigate Iodoral

> http://www.helpmythyroid.com

> Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD

> Gracia

>

> Thank you Char and Bev, hugs are nice. You asked how it affects me. I can talk

to you

pretty well, although I will frequently forget what I am talking about and I

forget the same

words all the time. I do not multi-task very well. I can no longer see the

Gestalt of things

very quickly at all. I lost 50 points in intelligence. So I am very fortunate to

be considered

average now. I have VERY low prcessing speeds both auditorily and visually. And

florescent

lights can make me have partial temporal lobe seizures. And I even have a

dementia rating

of 10%. So with a memory like that nursing is not a good option for the patient.

> I wasn't hypo thyroid until after the head injury...even though they say my

hypothyroidism is primary. Everyone on my father's side of the family is

hypothyroid. So I

suppose the head injury and the hypothyroidism are coincidental. BUT, I remain

so

fatigued.....more like exhausted. I know brain trauma causes fatigue, but there

are few

studies out there that tell how long that can last.

> I have joined this group to see if I can glean any info. Not to mention to see

if any of you

ladies out there approaching your 40s and 50s have any tips for the problems we

face like

more wrinkles, thinner hair, dry skin.

> I do have a puffy face much of the time and I see that many here do. But,

actually, that is

a symptom of being hypo. My thought is that our bodies must somehow not utilize

all of

this synthetic hormone or there is more to this thyrotropin balance and uptake

than most

people are able to deal with.

> I am still cold, have thinning dry hair, dry skin, major fatigue, painful

muscles, frequent

repiratory infections.......all symptoms fo being hypo thyroid, but since that

dern lab paper

of tests looks ok.......they give me the further diagnosis of chronic fatigue

and

fibromyalgia. That seems to happen to many hypothyroid people.

> Something isn't right with that picture....you think?

> <chuckles> I may as well.

> Selah,

> jamye

>

>

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I believe this was discussed here a few months back and the consensus

was that it's a worthless snake oil concoction. The number of people

reporting improvement will probably be close to those reporting

improvement with a placebo.

Re: Alvidar

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sunshineinindiana1 <sunshineinindiana1>

Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:11 am (PST)

Has anyone tried Alvidar? And did it help. Sandy

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