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That's correct and I cannot take any drugs with sulfa.

Venizia

- In hypothyroidism , " Bev " <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

>

> sulfur is also used as an anitbiotic...

> Bev

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have never heard this before...Why is this just coming

> out

> > > > > now...

> > > > > > > How long has this been known..?

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > Bev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sadly the well in my city is one of those with

> naturally

> > > > > occurring

> > > > > > > > fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years

> ago.

> > > Thank

> > > > > > > > goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not

> > > have

> > > > > any at

> > > > > > > > all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well

> doesn't

> > > have

> > > > > > > naturally

> > > > > > > > occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is

> the

> > > case

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > some areas

> > > > > > > > He was not talking about additives.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep

> wells

> > > are

> > > > > > > naturally full

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > fluoride. Those are often in places where additional

> > > fluoride

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > deemed

> > > > > > > > unnecessary.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chuck >>>>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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venizia1948 wrote:

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>

> Oh, I realize that. I do that now most of the time but I am wondering

> about cooking with

> it, washing with it.

Use bottled for cooking. Washing won't matter.

Chuck

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Char,

You wrote:

>

> How about distilled water for drinking? That's what I drink as I take a ton

> of supplements from my Herbalist.

Distilled WON'T pull minerals out of your bones, but it is expensive,

and you miss out on some useful minerals. I would go with bottled, but

check the contents. The one drawback on drinking bottled or even

distilled water, is that some plastic containers have been found to

contribute " iffy " chemicals (bisphenyl) to the supposedly pure water.

You can't win.

Chuck

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Bottled water is mostly just city water that has been filtered. It is

much cheaper to do it yourself if you can find an appropriate filter

system. It should start paying for itself in a year or so, even with

maintenance. Some people use two systems to get most everything out -

reverse osmosis and carbon.

Pat

> >

> > Can water filters take out the floride in the water?

>

> Activated charcoal only takes out a small percentage. Reverse osmosis,

> distillation, or resin ion exchange systems will get it out, but those

> are pretty expensive, and it is not clear that the result is really

> healthier than what you started with.

>

> I would go with bottled drinking water, if you have really high levels

> in your tap water. Otherwise, Brita is good enough. The chlorinated

> hydrocarbons are probably more of a concern.

>

> Chuck

>

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Can you go the reverse osmosis route?

-- Re: Wells & Fluorides

Venezia,

I bought a Multipure sink filter ten years ago from an acquaintance

who had cancer. I asked her how she came to be selling this brand.

She said she had gotten the water report that the EPA (?) requires all

water providers above a certain size to provide and then went to NSF

(nsf.org)to find out what things in her water could best be gotten out

by what filter. They have lists of filters. She narrowed it down to

that one as being best for her water and found she could sell them as

well. That is a procedure each person needs to go through for their

own water supply.

If you are concerned about flouride and sulfites you should get your

water tested to find out what you have. I have not done a thorough

search but every place I have read says only reverse osmosis and

distillation will get out flouride.

You might want to consider an ozone based purification system to avoid

most of the chlorine. If you do use chlorine, NSF rated chlorine is

purer, though more expensive. It can be bought at swimming pool

supply stores and some home and gardening stores.

Water softening systems are, as you thought, not the same. They are

another way to corrupt your water and add more pollutants. Research

this yourself and you'll see.

Pat

> > >

> > > We are building a home here in Wisconsin and we will have a well.

> > I am very concerned

> > > about fluoride possible being in the water. What can be done? We

> > have to use the water.

> > > Also, I have a sulfite sensitivity and I heard on a radio program

> > this weekend that

> > > Wisconsin wells have sulfur/ sulfites naturally. This is not

> > good. Really, if anyone knows

> > > what can be done in this situation, I would love to hear it. I

> > know I can have the water

> > > tested but then what?

> > >

> > > Venizia

> > >

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If you buy bottled water, don't buy the one that says Drinking Water. That made

me sick. D999

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Venizia,

You can drink bottled water. Those usually list mineral content on the

label.

Chuck

>

>

> We are building a home here in Wisconsin and we will have a well. I am

> very concerned

> about fluoride possible being in the water. What can be done? We have to

> use the water.

> Also, I have a sulfite sensitivity and I heard on a radio program this

> weekend that

> Wisconsin wells have sulfur/ sulfites naturally. This is not good.

> Really, if anyone knows

> what can be done in this situation, I would love to hear it. I know I

> can have the water

> tested but then what?

>

> Venizia

>

>

> >

> > I have never heard this before...Why is this just coming out now...

> > How long has this been known..?

> > thanks

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sadly the well in my city is one of those with naturally occurring

> > > fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years ago. Thank

> > > goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not have any at

> > > all.

> > >

> > >

> > > -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

> > >

> > > Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well doesn't have

> > naturally

> > > occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is the case in

> > some areas

> > > He was not talking about additives.

> > >

> > > C.

> > >

> > >

> > > <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep wells are

> > naturally full

> > > of

> > > fluoride. Those are often in places where additional fluoride was

> > deemed

> > > unnecessary.

> > >

> > > Chuck >>>>>

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Venizia-

At my work we we have a serperate thing for drinking water. It's one of

those couple gallon sized jugs that sits on top of a plastic box type thing and

on one side cool water comes out and onb the other hot. I forget the name of

the thing itself but we get non-fluordinated water for it. There are some

bottled brands that have no fluoride and some that have a lot. Deer Park, the

kind we get has none, which I like. I've been thinking about getting one for

my apartment but I'm not sure I can afford it right now. Maybe you could get

one for your new house!

In a message dated 9/19/07 7:12:03 AM, dauphine999@... writes:

>

> If you buy bottled water, don't buy the one that says Drinking Water. That

> made me sick. D999

>

> Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Venizia,

>

> You can drink bottled water. Those usually list mineral content on the

> label.

>

> Chuck

> >

> >

> > We are building a home here in Wisconsin and we will have a well. I am

> > very concerned

> > about fluoride possible being in the water. What can be done? We have to

> > use the water.

> > Also, I have a sulfite sensitivity and I heard on a radio program this

> > weekend that

> > Wisconsin wells have sulfur/ sulfites naturally. This is not good.

> > Really, if anyone knows

> > what can be done in this situation, I would love to hear it. I know I

> > can have the water

> > tested but then what?

> >

> > Venizia

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I have never heard this before...Why is this just coming out now...

> > > How long has this been known..?

> > > thanks

> > > Bev

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sadly the well in my city is one of those with naturally occurring

> > > > fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years ago. Thank

> > > > goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not have any at

> > > > all.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

> > > >

> > > > Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well doesn't have

> > > naturally

> > > > occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is the case in

> > > some areas

> > > > He was not talking about additives.

> > > >

> > > > C.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep wells are

> > > naturally full

> > > > of

> > > > fluoride. Those are often in places where additional fluoride was

> > > deemed

> > > > unnecessary.

> > > >

> > > > Chuck >>>>>

>

>

>

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I always buy spring water. Never anything that says drinking or purified water.

Venizia

> > >

> > > I have never heard this before...Why is this just coming out now...

> > > How long has this been known..?

> > > thanks

> > > Bev

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sadly the well in my city is one of those with naturally occurring

> > > > fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years ago. Thank

> > > > goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not have any at

> > > > all.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

> > > >

> > > > Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well doesn't have

> > > naturally

> > > > occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is the case in

> > > some areas

> > > > He was not talking about additives.

> > > >

> > > > C.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep wells are

> > > naturally full

> > > > of

> > > > fluoride. Those are often in places where additional fluoride was

> > > deemed

> > > > unnecessary.

> > > >

> > > > Chuck >>>>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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We are going to have something called a 3-way water system. So that we can have

a water

softener but do not have to drink the water with a water softener. That's a

no-no. I don't

know what else it's good for. We be talking to my husband about that. I am

going to look

in the reverse osmosis. Thanks.

Venizia

> > > >

> > > > We are building a home here in Wisconsin and we will have a well.

> > > I am very concerned

> > > > about fluoride possible being in the water. What can be done? We

> > > have to use the water.

> > > > Also, I have a sulfite sensitivity and I heard on a radio program

> > > this weekend that

> > > > Wisconsin wells have sulfur/ sulfites naturally. This is not

> > > good. Really, if anyone knows

> > > > what can be done in this situation, I would love to hear it. I

> > > know I can have the water

> > > > tested but then what?

> > > >

> > > > Venizia

> > > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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yes I think radon is the big problem here, b/c there is a lot of granite? that

water goes through. I am sure it would be interesting to test my water, but

it's last on my list at this point. It tastes wonderful and looks good.

The well site was located by an old Mainer dowser who " twitched it " with a

stick. He was exactly right when the well was drilled----60 feet down, 8

gallons a minute.

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I have a well and I am glad to have naturally occuring minerals in it. I

> am sure the body uses it all, even flouride.

Not all naturally occurring minerals are equal. Wells in Maine are often

full of radium, uranium, and thorium. You can get a water sample checked

by mail for about the cost of a month of iodine.

Chuck

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Hi! Sometime in the 60s, everyone was making a big ta-do about putting Fluoride

in the city water to make the children have less cavities in their teeth. It

lasted a while and they put it in the water anyway. Ever since then we have had

Fluoride in our city water. D999

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: I have never heard this

before...Why is this just coming out now...

How long has this been known..?

thanks

Bev

>

>

> Sadly the well in my city is one of those with naturally occurring

> fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years ago. Thank

> goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not have any at

> all.

>

>

> -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

>

> Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well doesn't have

naturally

> occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is the case in

some areas

> He was not talking about additives.

>

> C.

>

>

> <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep wells are

naturally full

> of

> fluoride. Those are often in places where additional fluoride was

deemed

> unnecessary.

>

> Chuck >>>>>

>

>

>

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It would be interesting to find out if you have granite countertops does it give

off radon or

do they treat it, if that's possible so it doesn't. Have granite countertops

now and am

putting them in our new home.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> yes I think radon is the big problem here, b/c there is a lot of granite?

that water goes

through. I am sure it would be interesting to test my water, but it's last on

my list at this

point. It tastes wonderful and looks good.

> The well site was located by an old Mainer dowser who " twitched it " with a

stick. He

was exactly right when the well was drilled----60 feet down, 8 gallons a minute.

> Gracia

>

> Gracia,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > I have a well and I am glad to have naturally occuring minerals in it. I

> > am sure the body uses it all, even flouride.

>

> Not all naturally occurring minerals are equal. Wells in Maine are often

> full of radium, uranium, and thorium. You can get a water sample checked

> by mail for about the cost of a month of iodine.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

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,

That sounds like a good plan. I bet it would be cheaper than buying bottle

water for

drinking and cooking. That gets expensive, also. I wonder how the hot water is

possible.

If you could find out the name of the company that offers this, I would like to

look into it.

Thanks ,

Venizia

> > > >

> > > > I have never heard this before...Why is this just coming out now...

> > > > How long has this been known..?

> > > > thanks

> > > > Bev

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sadly the well in my city is one of those with naturally occurring

> > > > > fluorides. It's a new one we just dug it 5 years ago. Thank

> > > > > goodness it is low in fluoride. Just wish it did not have any at

> > > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -- Re: Wells & Fluorides

> > > > >

> > > > > Chuck just wanted you to make sure that your well doesn't have

> > > > naturally

> > > > > occurring fluorides in large concentrations, which is the case in

> > > > some areas

> > > > > He was not talking about additives.

> > > > >

> > > > > C.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <<<<< Check your water quality assay. Most deep wells are

> > > > naturally full

> > > > > of

> > > > > fluoride. Those are often in places where additional fluoride was

> > > > deemed

> > > > > unnecessary.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chuck >>>>>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Pat,

You wrote:

>

> Bottled water is mostly just city water that has been filtered...

True, but if the city in question is free of fluoride, a dual household

filtration system to completely remove fluoride will cost a lot more in

the long run than buying bottled drinking water. The house system will

filter ALL the water you use.

Our fluoride is less than 1 ppm, so we just use Brita. That is even cheaper.

Chuck

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

>

> yes I think radon is the big problem here, b/c there is a lot of

> granite?...

Radon comes from radium which comes from uranium. Granite often contains

all three. Most dowsers don't detect gamma rays or alpha emissions. You

really might want to check your water. I knew several folks in New

Hampshire that could not legally pour their well water down the drain,

because it was so radioactive, it was considered a radioactive waste

that needed a license to even handle.

Chuck

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Venizia,

You wrote:

>

>

> It would be interesting to find out if you have granite countertops does

> it give off radon or

> do they treat it, if that's possible so it doesn't. ...

Even a relatively " hot " countertop would not probably contribute enough

radon to be a problem. It could emit gamma rays into the room, though.

It all depends on the granite. I have seen small rock samples that

quickly filled a glass cabinet with radon. I have also seen granite that

was completely inactive.

Chuck

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OK I will look into it!

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

>

> yes I think radon is the big problem here, b/c there is a lot of

> granite?...

Radon comes from radium which comes from uranium. Granite often contains

all three. Most dowsers don't detect gamma rays or alpha emissions. You

really might want to check your water. I knew several folks in New

Hampshire that could not legally pour their well water down the drain,

because it was so radioactive, it was considered a radioactive waste

that needed a license to even handle.

Chuck

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Hi! If anyone is worried about the radon in their house, they can get a radon

detector in Wal Mart for little money. This device detects how much radon is in

your home or anywhere you want to use it. D999

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Venizia,

You wrote:

>

>

> It would be interesting to find out if you have granite countertops does

> it give off radon or

> do they treat it, if that's possible so it doesn't. ...

Even a relatively " hot " countertop would not probably contribute enough

radon to be a problem. It could emit gamma rays into the room, though.

It all depends on the granite. I have seen small rock samples that

quickly filled a glass cabinet with radon. I have also seen granite that

was completely inactive.

Chuck

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Dauphine,

You wrote:

>

> Hi! If anyone is worried about the radon in their house, they can get a

> radon detector in Wal Mart for little money. This device detects how

> much radon is in your home or anywhere you want to use it.

The passive activated charcoal or particle track detectors measure radon

concentrations in the air. They won't tell you whether your countertop

is hotter than blazes. Most of the radon collected in a house comes from

gas pulled up by convection through openings in the basement floor.

BTW, I have consulted for a commercial radon measurement company and

actually developed a type of charcoal cannister radon system before it

all became commercialized.

Chuck

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A radon detector is a good thing to have in your house. Radon is a radioactive

noble gas. (atomic #86.) It is a heavy gas. Radon is formed by the natural

radioactive decay of uranium in rocks. Trace amounts are found in concrete,

bricks, granite and drywall. If you want to find out more about Radon go to

NSC.org. They tell you how to detect it and how to get rid of it. There is very

little emission of Radon Gas from counter tops. Signed by the President of the

Rock Co. You are right again Chuck. Most Radon is found under the house and

basements. D999

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Dauphine,

You wrote:

>

> Hi! If anyone is worried about the radon in their house, they can get a

> radon detector in Wal Mart for little money. This device detects how

> much radon is in your home or anywhere you want to use it.

The passive activated charcoal or particle track detectors measure radon

concentrations in the air. They won't tell you whether your countertop

is hotter than blazes. Most of the radon collected in a house comes from

gas pulled up by convection through openings in the basement floor.

BTW, I have consulted for a commercial radon measurement company and

actually developed a type of charcoal cannister radon system before it

all became commercialized.

Chuck

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D999,

You wrote:

>

>

> [Radon] is a heavy gas. Radon is formed

> by the natural radioactive decay of uranium in rocks....

Sort of. It comes from radium, which in turn comes from uranium.

Heavy doesn't mean it sinks to the floor. You know how if you breath

helium, you sound like Mickey Mouse? If you were to breath a lung full

of radon (not recommended; don't try this at home) you will sound like

Barry White.

Chuck

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LOL! What you said reminds me of a guy that was in my Lab class. He was piping

some kind of chemical and it backed up into his mouth. He asked the Professor if

it would hurt him. The Professor answered, Well I don't know. How you can tell

is if you walk down the stairs, and your feet fall off, then you will know if it

hurt you or not. LOL Well the guy was OK. He graduated with everyone else. I do

have a question for you Chuck. What is the difference between Depleted Uranium

and Decayed Uranium???? Thank You, D999

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: D999,

You wrote:

>

>

> [Radon] is a heavy gas. Radon is formed

> by the natural radioactive decay of uranium in rocks....

Sort of. It comes from radium, which in turn comes from uranium.

Heavy doesn't mean it sinks to the floor. You know how if you breath

helium, you sound like Mickey Mouse? If you were to breath a lung full

of radon (not recommended; don't try this at home) you will sound like

Barry White.

Chuck

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