Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma - DHEA

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I have seen glaucoma as a hypo symptom. I will look for the list.

Gracia

yes I did find those doctors earlier but they don't seem to specialise in

Glaucoma or Ophthalmology for that matter. ... know what I mean ?

WS

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Vinizia,

You wrote:

>

> That is one reason why I will not take DHEA because of the risk of

> estrogen increasing and risk of breast cancer for one.

There is good reason to think it might increase the risk of testicular

cancer in males, as well. However, the only longitudinal studies have

been to show that it does not have any of the hoped for (and advertised

for) anti-aging benefits.

In spite of those risks, I tried it and found no benefit whatsoever.

However, it might help someone with a genuine lack of something that

DHEA helps replace. I just don't know what that would be other than sex

hormones, and there are probably better or more controlled ways to

replace those.

Chuck

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weird Scientist wrote:

>

>

> ok now not many people admitted to having vision problems on Armour ..a

> few people did ... but not as many as I expected to.

The problems are not generally glaucoma but macular degeneration, light

sensitivities, and after images.

Chuck

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Roni,

You wrote to WS:

>

> The only protocol you should be following right now is the one given to you

> by a naturopath or allopath that is knowledgeable about your particular

> conditions. Treating yourself when you don't really understand what any of

this is

> all about is VERY dangerous. Please seek the services of a doctor.

Amen.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

That is because you need to find an ophthalmologist. Call up the hospital and

ask for a referral to an ophthalmologist with hospital privileges.

Roni

weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote:

yes I did find those doctors earlier but they don't seem to specialise

in Glaucoma or Ophthalmology for that matter. ... know what I mean ?

WS

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: Here is some more info for you on

naturopaths.

Roni

Florida Naturopathic Doctors

---------------------------------

Clapham, ND

CENTER FOR NATURAL & INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE

6651 Vineland Rd Ste 150

Orlando, Florida 32819

Phone: (407) 355-9246

EM: doctorlizzie[at]earthlink.net

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13312 Swallowtail Dr

Bradenton, Florida 34202

Phone: (941) 755-1646

EM: michelleclark[at]tampabay.rr.com

Areas of Emphasis: Attention Deficit Disorder, Botanical Medicine,

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Clements, ND

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3131 S. Tamiami Trail

suite 206

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Phone: 941-951-6820 Fax: 941-951-6821

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1900 South Olive

West Palm Beach, Florida 33401

Phone: 561.540.1429 Fax: 561.540.1429

EM: curecare[at]bellsouth.net

Website: www.curecare.net

Areas of Emphasis: Botanical Medicine, Cancer, Clinical Nutrition, Family

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635 Primera Blvd. Suite 101

Lake , Florida 32746

Phone: (407) 333-1059 Fax: (407) 333-4781

OSTEOPATHIC WELLNESS CENTER

634 N Semoran Blvd

Orlando, Florida 32807

Phone: (407) 380 7799 Fax: (407) 380 8863

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Phone: (970) 920-7644

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40 Island Ave.

Maimi Beach, Florida 33139

Phone: (970) 920-7644

EM: naturedr[at]hotmail.com

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EM: rgeldner[at]

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Crystal River, Florida 34429

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EM: jhedges[at]tampabay.rr.com

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6651 Vineland Road Suite 150

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weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote:

No Gracia... I tried it for 2 weeks and stopped it two weeks ago...

u went from 90 to 240 mg in one week???.. thatz scary and not mentioned in the

STTM or any other site for that matter.

maybe u have better functioning adrenals ..even so, 90 to 240 in one week is

tooooo much!

WS

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I completely disagree. I don't think these things are terrifying and dangerous

and only a doctor can tell us what to do. If that were the case I would be 6

feet under by now. Once you know how to use this stuff, it isn't scary or hard

to understand.

Is WS taking Armour now? that's what I can't figure out.

Gracia

The only protocol you should be following right now is the one given to you

by a naturopath or allopath that is knowledgeable about your particular

conditions.

Treating yourself when you don't really understand what any of this is all about

is VERY dangerous. Please seek the services of a doctor.

Roni

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[Guest guest]

Gracia wrote:

>

> I have seen glaucoma as a hypo symptom. I will look for the list.

It definitely increases intraocular pressure, so it was once thought to

be associated. However, more recent studies have shown that the risk of

elevated IOP progressing to glaucomatous damage is about the same as in

euthyroids. The extra pressure seems to go away once the hypoT is treated.

http://www.glaucoma.net/nygri/education/publications/angle10.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed & uid=11162988 & cmd=showdetailvi\

ew & indexed=google

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowFulltext & ProduktNr=\

224269 & Ausgabe=226343 & ArtikelNr=27518

Chuck

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hi Chuck

I suspect you didnt take enough DHEA. Pharmaceutical grade DHEA will make

you feel great. I take 7-keto DHEA 50mg but regular DHEA 50mg would work just

as well.

Gracia

Vinizia,

You wrote:

>

> That is one reason why I will not take DHEA because of the risk of

> estrogen increasing and risk of breast cancer for one.

There is good reason to think it might increase the risk of testicular

cancer in males, as well. However, the only longitudinal studies have

been to show that it does not have any of the hoped for (and advertised

for) anti-aging benefits.

In spite of those risks, I tried it and found no benefit whatsoever.

However, it might help someone with a genuine lack of something that

DHEA helps replace. I just don't know what that would be other than sex

hormones, and there are probably better or more controlled ways to

replace those.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

WS, didn't you say you tried MSM? If so, where did you get it? I was just

reading that it's not all the same.

CW

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma - DHEA

No Gracia... I tried it for 2 weeks and stopped it two weeks ago...

u went from 90 to 240 mg in one week???.. thatz scary and not mentioned in

the STTM or any other site for that matter.

maybe u have better functioning adrenals ..even so, 90 to 240 in one week is

tooooo much!

WS

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I completely disagree. I don't think these things are terrifying and

dangerous and only a doctor can tell us what to do. If that were the case I

would be 6 feet under by now. Once you know how to use this stuff, it isn't

scary or hard to understand.

Is WS taking Armour now? that's what I can't figure out.

Gracia

The only protocol you should be following right now is the one given to you

by a naturopath or allopath that is knowledgeable about your particular

conditions.

Treating yourself when you don't really understand what any of this is all

about

is VERY dangerous. Please seek the services of a doctor.

Roni

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[Guest guest]

I tried a product called 'Triple Flex' (Nature Made was the manufacturer or

packager or whatever) ..it had abt 750 mg MSM along with Glucosamine and

Chondroitin.

u feel the difference only when u get off of it and when you ARE taking it ..it

doesn't make the joints FEEL any less painful.

WS

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

WS, didn't you say you tried MSM? If so, where did you get it? I was just

reading that it's not all the same.

CW

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma - DHEA

No Gracia... I tried it for 2 weeks and stopped it two weeks ago...

u went from 90 to 240 mg in one week???.. thatz scary and not mentioned in

the STTM or any other site for that matter.

maybe u have better functioning adrenals ..even so, 90 to 240 in one week is

tooooo much!

WS

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I completely disagree. I don't think these things are terrifying and

dangerous and only a doctor can tell us what to do. If that were the case I

would be 6 feet under by now. Once you know how to use this stuff, it isn't

scary or hard to understand.

Is WS taking Armour now? that's what I can't figure out.

Gracia

The only protocol you should be following right now is the one given to you

by a naturopath or allopath that is knowledgeable about your particular

conditions.

Treating yourself when you don't really understand what any of this is all

about

is VERY dangerous. Please seek the services of a doctor.

Roni

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