Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 still doesn't work even with adding extension From: c_reinhardt2001 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:12 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) don't forget the extension: http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.fe b.2008.htm It doesn't all fit. > > > > http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.fe b. > > 2008.htm > > > > Please read immediately. It's confirms what we've said all along! > > > > Enjoy! Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Nancie barnett wrote: > > > still doesn't work even with adding extension > It did for me. Here is the text: Thyroid Science 3(2)H1-14, 2008 Hypothyroidism: Sensitive Diagnosis and Optimal Treatment of All Types and Grades—A Comprehensive Hypothesis Based on a Review of the Standard and " Alternative " Literature and Extensive Clinical Experience (Full Text Free in pdf format) V. Dommisse, MD, MBChB, FRCP©* *Nutritional & Metabolic (Tele)Medicine, 1840 E. River Road, Suite 210, Tucson, AZ, 85718-5892 Contact: www.DommisseMD.com @... Abstract. The hypothesis of this paper is that hypothyroidism (in its various forms and degrees) is often undiagnosed in its grade 3 primary, secondary (pituitary), tertiary (hypothalamic), and non-thyroidal illness hypothyroidism versions; and under-treated in all versions, including its grades 1 and 2 primary hypothyroidism versions. The current standard and alternative approaches to the diagnosis and management of hypothyroidism, and their logical inconsistencies and inadequacies, are discussed. The biggest losers in this neglectful situation are elderly, memory- loss, mood-disordered, chronically fatigued, or overweight patients. An extensive review is presented, which is then coupled with logical argument and clinical experience to clarify the hypothesis. Methods employing the free thyroid hormone levels (FT4 and FT3), by the accurate direct- and tracer-dialysis methods, respectively, and a lower normal range for the thyroid stimulating hormone level are described. These help optimize the newly-developed diagnostic strategies. Their superiority over the standard conventional and alternative approaches are suggested by inferential argument and by the author’s personal experience of his own case of post-surgical (thyroglossal cystectomy) hypothyroidism—missed by the medical profession for 36 years—and his clinical experience with approximately 5,000 patients over a 19-year time period. Diagnostic strategies and treatment methods are described which refute traditional objections to measuring the FT3 serum level—at least in the case of the serum test done by the dialysis method—and to treating with varying combinations of both T4 and either T3 or T4/T3 combination hormone preparations. The objections about aggressive thyroid treatment causing or aggravating osteoporosis and cardiac arrhythmias are found (in the author’s practice) to not only be overblown, but to be entirely non-existent when corrections are made for certain mineral, vitamin, amino acid, and sex- and growth-hormonal deficiencies. Or, you can get the full paper in pdf: http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.feb.2008.pdf -Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 james- well I did that and it still didn't work for me! From: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:32 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) If someone hasn't already told you, you have to copy the ENTIRE link into your browser. On mine the " 2008.htm " is not highlighted, so I have to first click on the link then add the " 2008.htm " to get it to work. Luck, > > Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) > <hypothyroidism/message/36850;_ylc=X3oDMTJxam1la21\ kBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzY4NTAEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwNDYyNzc5NQ--> > > > > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20An%20Absolute%20Must%20READ%20%\ 28%20Sam%20and%20Gracie%20Will%20Love%20this%29> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:29 pm (PST) > > This link comes up Not Found. > > Roni > > c_reinhardt2001 <sunshining@... <mailto:sunshining%40msn.com>> wrote: > http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.feb. > 2008.htm > <http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.feb.> > 2008.htm > > Please read immediately. It's confirms what we've said all along! > > Enjoy! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 thanks for this- but I copied the entire link with the extension added on and it STILL did not work for me. -------------------------------------------------- From: " Chuck B " <gumboyaya@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:08 PM <hypothyroidism > Subject: Re: Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) > Nancie barnett wrote: >> >> >> still doesn't work even with adding extension >> > > It did for me. Here is the text: > > Thyroid Science 3(2)H1-14, 2008 > > Hypothyroidism: Sensitive Diagnosis and Optimal Treatment > of All Types and Grades—A Comprehensive Hypothesis > > Based on a Review of the Standard and " Alternative " Literature > and Extensive Clinical Experience > > (Full Text Free in pdf format) > > V. Dommisse, MD, MBChB, FRCP©* > > *Nutritional & Metabolic (Tele)Medicine, 1840 E. River Road, Suite 210, > Tucson, AZ, 85718-5892 > Contact: www.DommisseMD.com @... > > Abstract. The hypothesis of this paper is that hypothyroidism (in its > various forms and degrees) is often undiagnosed in its grade 3 primary, > secondary (pituitary), tertiary (hypothalamic), and non-thyroidal > illness hypothyroidism versions; and under-treated in all versions, > including its grades 1 and 2 primary hypothyroidism versions. The > current standard and alternative approaches to the diagnosis and > management of hypothyroidism, and their logical inconsistencies and > inadequacies, are discussed. The biggest losers in this neglectful > situation are elderly, memory- loss, mood-disordered, chronically > fatigued, or overweight patients. > > An extensive review is presented, which is then coupled with logical > argument and clinical experience to clarify the hypothesis. Methods > employing the free thyroid hormone levels (FT4 and FT3), by the accurate > direct- and tracer-dialysis methods, respectively, and a lower normal > range for the thyroid stimulating hormone level are described. These > help optimize the newly-developed diagnostic strategies. Their > superiority over the standard conventional and alternative approaches > are suggested by inferential argument and by the author’s personal > experience of his own case of post-surgical (thyroglossal cystectomy) > hypothyroidism—missed by the medical profession for 36 years—and his > clinical experience with approximately 5,000 patients over a 19-year > time period. > > Diagnostic strategies and treatment methods are described which refute > traditional objections to measuring the FT3 serum level—at least in the > case of the serum test done by the dialysis method—and to treating with > varying combinations of both T4 and either T3 or T4/T3 combination > hormone preparations. The objections about aggressive thyroid treatment > causing or aggravating osteoporosis and cardiac arrhythmias are found > (in the author’s practice) to not only be overblown, but to be entirely > non-existent when corrections are made for certain mineral, vitamin, > amino acid, and sex- and growth-hormonal deficiencies. > > Or, you can get the full paper in pdf: > > http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.feb.2008.pdf > > -Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I will be showing this article to my thyroid MD, prudence hall next week when I see her for a f/u and hopefully a dosing increase. I will also will ask her about the TSH reference range issue. nancie -------------------------------------------------- From: " Chuck B " <gumboyaya@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:08 PM <hypothyroidism > Subject: Re: Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) > Nancie barnett wrote: >> >> >> still doesn't work even with adding extension >> > > It did for me. Here is the text: > > Thyroid Science 3(2)H1-14, 2008 > > Hypothyroidism: Sensitive Diagnosis and Optimal Treatment > of All Types and Grades—A Comprehensive Hypothesis > > Based on a Review of the Standard and " Alternative " Literature > and Extensive Clinical Experience > > (Full Text Free in pdf format) > > V. Dommisse, MD, MBChB, FRCP©* > > *Nutritional & Metabolic (Tele)Medicine, 1840 E. River Road, Suite 210, > Tucson, AZ, 85718-5892 > Contact: www.DommisseMD.com @... > > Abstract. The hypothesis of this paper is that hypothyroidism (in its > various forms and degrees) is often undiagnosed in its grade 3 primary, > secondary (pituitary), tertiary (hypothalamic), and non-thyroidal > illness hypothyroidism versions; and under-treated in all versions, > including its grades 1 and 2 primary hypothyroidism versions. The > current standard and alternative approaches to the diagnosis and > management of hypothyroidism, and their logical inconsistencies and > inadequacies, are discussed. The biggest losers in this neglectful > situation are elderly, memory- loss, mood-disordered, chronically > fatigued, or overweight patients. > > An extensive review is presented, which is then coupled with logical > argument and clinical experience to clarify the hypothesis. Methods > employing the free thyroid hormone levels (FT4 and FT3), by the accurate > direct- and tracer-dialysis methods, respectively, and a lower normal > range for the thyroid stimulating hormone level are described. These > help optimize the newly-developed diagnostic strategies. Their > superiority over the standard conventional and alternative approaches > are suggested by inferential argument and by the author’s personal > experience of his own case of post-surgical (thyroglossal cystectomy) > hypothyroidism—missed by the medical profession for 36 years—and his > clinical experience with approximately 5,000 patients over a 19-year > time period. > > Diagnostic strategies and treatment methods are described which refute > traditional objections to measuring the FT3 serum level—at least in the > case of the serum test done by the dialysis method—and to treating with > varying combinations of both T4 and either T3 or T4/T3 combination > hormone preparations. The objections about aggressive thyroid treatment > causing or aggravating osteoporosis and cardiac arrhythmias are found > (in the author’s practice) to not only be overblown, but to be entirely > non-existent when corrections are made for certain mineral, vitamin, > amino acid, and sex- and growth-hormonal deficiencies. > > Or, you can get the full paper in pdf: > > http://www.thyroidscience.com/hypotheses/dommisse.feb.2008/dommisse.feb.2008.pdf > > -Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I have been trying to tell my doctor for ages that I'm having hypo symptoms, and although he checks for Free T3 and Free T4, seems to only look at the TSH. I switched to Armour over 6 weeks ago, and went on a twice a day regimen, which seems to have taken care of the Afib, better than once a day. Now, this piece advocates taking the Armour AFTER meals, which sounds to me like a great idea. I think it will be easier on my system. I am going to try it, and then go back for another test in a month or so. I am convinced that I need more medication because I am freezing and tired and unmotivated and can't concentrate, and don't lose weight, etc., etc., etc. (to quote the king of Siam, tehe). Roni <res075oh@...> wrote: Probably KOA [Keyboard Operator Error]! [ggg] PS: Seriously, I don't know. It works every time for me, once I get it all in there correctly. I know that screws up the downloads on the lists; but I don't know what else might mess it up. > > Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie Will Love this) > <hypothyroidism/message/36891;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbnV0Z2N\ rBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzY4OTEEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwNDgwMDY1NA--> > > > > Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20An%20Absolute%20Must%20READ%20%28%\ 20Sam%20and%20Gracie%20Will%20Love%20this%29> > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > Wed Mar 5, 2008 8:52 pm (PST) > > james- well I did that and it still didn't work for me! > > From: > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:32 PM > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Subject: Re: An Absolute Must READ ( Sam and Gracie > Will Love this) > > If someone hasn't already told you, you have to copy the ENTIRE link > into your browser. On mine the " 2008.htm " is not highlighted, so I > have to first click on the link then add the " 2008.htm " to get it to work. > > Luck, > --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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