Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Do you suspect you just need some fine tuning of your dosage? I don't see a whole lot of benefit of these extra things I take either. But I think it's important to continue to take them anyway. Gail > > Gail, > > Yes, I did a saliva test several years ago. DHEA was below normal > and cortisol normal but near the minimum of the range. I tried > Isocort up to 30mg but felt no difference. I have taken DHEA > regularly bit see no noticeable benefit. > > I am stubborn about running but some days are extremely hard. > > Rick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 have you ever tried HC? instead of DHEA take the precussor to this pregol.. I cant spell it, i am sure someone here knows it. i take it at bedtime. not at home so i cant look at the bottle renee > > Yes, I did a saliva test several years ago. DHEA was below normal > and cortisol normal but near the minimum of the range. I tried > Isocort up to 30mg but felt no difference. I have taken DHEA > regularly bit see no noticeable benefit. > > I am stubborn about running but some days are extremely hard. > > Rick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 , Yes, I have taken and am taking both DHEA and pregnenolone. I don't notice any difference at all. I believe I tried Cortef as well as Isocort, again with no noticeable benefit. Thanks, Rick > > have you ever tried HC? instead of DHEA take the precussor to this > pregol.. I cant spell it, i am sure someone here knows it. i take it > at bedtime. not at home so i cant look at the bottle > > renee > > > > Yes, I did a saliva test several years ago. DHEA was below normal > > and cortisol normal but near the minimum of the range. I tried > > Isocort up to 30mg but felt no difference. I have taken DHEA > > regularly bit see no noticeable benefit. > > > > I am stubborn about running but some days are extremely hard. > > > > Rick > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Alison, Are you taking medication? A drop in TSH is certainly what the medication should cause. You should get it down around 2.0, though, not 6.3 . Chuck > > > > Just got results from my Doctor. My t3 is 84 > T4 normal. TSH is 6.3 as compared to just the previous week which > was 10.81. Now he is scheduling an US and a thyroid reuptakes scan. > Where is he going with this? is it a converstion problem when levels > are such as mine? I am newly diagnosed and need advice. It is my > impression from the nurse who called that I will be having 2 > different tests or is the Iodine used to get a better picture? He > felt no nodules at my visit. do TSH levels fluctuate so much week to > week....i.e. 10.81 then again Wed 6.3 > Thanks for any advice > Ali > > > > > > , > > > > You just gave a definition for what " conversion problem " means. You > say > > that it is quite rare to have a conversion problem, and then you > > effectively state that most people have it. I would agree with the > > latter. Perhaps the person that knows much more about the subject > > misunderstood your question. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > checked with someone who knows much more than me about this > subject. > > > > > > it is quite rare to have a conversion problem, apparently. The > > > problem with T4 is that the body is not meant to live on a storage > > > hormone alone. That's why most folks on a T4-only treatment have a > > > less-than-optimal T3...i.e. it's not a conversion problem, it's a > > > T4-only treatment problem. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 drug companies say that all hypos need is T4. Then when some, maybe lots of ppl do poorly on T4 only drugs, they claim it's a (rare) conversion prob. better treatment is all the Ts and calcitonen. Gracia Gracia wrote: > > " conversion problem " is a made up term by $inthroid IMO... That is curious, since I have only seen it used as part of arguments for taking T3, either in Armour or Cytomel. I don't see how the notion of a conversion problem would in any way advocate for use of synthetic T4. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I don't know if I ever had a " conversion " prob. I never knew to ask for Free T3 test, and I have always taken Armour. Last test I did was a few hours after I took 240mg Armour! I didn't know doc would want the test done. Free T4 was tippy top and free T3 was just a bit over, TSH was .06, and these are perfect #s. but I wasn't yet taking high dose iodine which can affect the TSH. I would like to do the test again now. Gracia Gracia, Have you ever had a problem with conversion? It's when your FT3 is at the bottom of the range and your FT4 is at the top and you feel like crap. That's how you can tell if you have a conversion problem.. That's what mine does and that's why I have to take armour & cytomel. Bev Recent Activity a.. 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 What is tippy top. You want your Ft4 at the bottom but not above 1/4 from the bottom of the range and FT3 at the very top or at least where I want mine and every body I've talked to want theirs too. You want the FT4 at the bottom so that your FT4 don't convert to RT3 and your metabolism doesnt' slow way down and you start gainning more weight and so forth. bev > > I don't know if I ever had a " conversion " prob. I never knew to ask for Free T3 test, and I have always taken Armour. Last test I did was a few hours after I took 240mg Armour! I didn't know doc would want the test done. Free T4 was tippy top and free T3 was just a bit over, TSH was .06, and these are perfect #s. but I wasn't yet taking high dose iodine which can affect the TSH. I would like to do the test again now. > Gracia > > Gracia, > Have you ever had a problem with conversion? It's when your FT3 is at the bottom of the range and your FT4 is at the top and you feel like crap. That's how you can tell if you have a conversion problem.. That's what mine does and that's why I have to take armour & cytomel. > Bev > > > Recent Activity > a.. 9New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 well I disagree with that! I think you want your Frees to be in upper quadrant of range. Never heard that FT4 would suddenly convert to RFT3! yikes just think, if we didn't have these tests we would all just be taking what we needed to feel well! Gracia What is tippy top. You want your Ft4 at the bottom but not above 1/4 from the bottom of the range and FT3 at the very top or at least where I want mine and every body I've talked to want theirs too. You want the FT4 at the bottom so that your FT4 don't convert to RT3 and your metabolism doesnt' slow way down and you start gainning more weight and so forth. bev > > I don't know if I ever had a " conversion " prob. I never knew to ask for Free T3 test, and I have always taken Armour. Last test I did was a few hours after I took 240mg Armour! I didn't know doc would want the test done. Free T4 was tippy top and free T3 was just a bit over, TSH was .06, and these are perfect #s. but I wasn't yet taking high dose iodine which can affect the TSH. I would like to do the test again now. > Gracia > Recent Activity a.. 3New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 OH yes, I just had a RT3 test , just haven't got the results back yet... do a search on it... on my others support groups it's big knowledge there... It's the same thing if you were in a stavation mode and your body stops losing weight because it knows you're starving so it slow down metabolism.. In other words as I said your Ft4 coverts to RT3 (Reverse T3) instead of FT3. Reverse is the key word. So, that's why you don't want too much FT4 in your system.. You are the only one I have ever heard of wanting there Ft4 in the upper quad... Usually it's the FT3 in the upper quad. & FT4 in the lower quad.. Bev > > > > I don't know if I ever had a " conversion " prob. I never knew to > ask for Free T3 test, and I have always taken Armour. Last test I > did was a few hours after I took 240mg Armour! I didn't know doc > would want the test done. Free T4 was tippy top and free T3 was > just a bit over, TSH was .06, and these are perfect #s. but I > wasn't yet taking high dose iodine which can affect the TSH. I > would like to do the test again now. > > Gracia > > > > Recent Activity > a.. 3New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 never ever heard this. you won't find this advice on thyroidgroups (DOT) I don't think you would hear it on natural thyroid hormone group either. I think it is fiction. Gracia OH yes, I just had a RT3 test , just haven't got the results back yet... do a search on it... on my others support groups it's big knowledge there... It's the same thing if you were in a stavation mode and your body stops losing weight because it knows you're starving so it slow down metabolism.. In other words as I said your Ft4 coverts to RT3 (Reverse T3) instead of FT3. Reverse is the key word. So, that's why you don't want too much FT4 in your system.. You are the only one I have ever heard of wanting there Ft4 in the upper quad... Usually it's the FT3 in the upper quad. & FT4 in the lower quad.. Bev Recent Activity a.. 5New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 That's the only place I am on supports groups.. Bev Gracia <circe@...> wrote: never ever heard this. you won't find this advice on thyroidgroups (DOT) I don't think you would hear it on natural thyroid hormone group either. I think it is fiction. Gracia OH yes, I just had a RT3 test , just haven't got the results back yet... do a search on it... on my others support groups it's big knowledge there... It's the same thing if you were in a stavation mode and your body stops losing weight because it knows you're starving so it slow down metabolism.. In other words as I said your Ft4 coverts to RT3 (Reverse T3) instead of FT3. Reverse is the key word. So, that's why you don't want too much FT4 in your system.. You are the only one I have ever heard of wanting there Ft4 in the upper quad... Usually it's the FT3 in the upper quad. & FT4 in the lower quad.. Bev Recent Activity a.. 5New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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