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In a message dated 3/27/04 7:34:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mosaicbymoe@... writes:

> Also, as someone who uses vibrational therapies, I'd never use

> garlic which is proven by numerous sources to decrease the electical

> capacity of the body. Bob Becker talks about this pretty often.

>

Are you saying that in your opinion, garlic should be eliminated from the

diet? What about all the studies that say it is healing?

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rbeiswenger@... writes:

> It almost seems like " religion " , where everyone is claiming

> THEY have the truth and the only way is the way they believe. I'm trying to

> avoid being in that " one way " thinking.

>

I agree totally Bob. We have to approach disease from all aspects. As a

sufferer of MCS I understand how poisons effect health. The level of exposure

seems to correspond to the level of reaction. I can't help but consider this to

be true, at least in part, for cancer patients. We know that people exposed

to toxic situations, have a very high percentage of getting cancer. If it were

only a mental trauma wouldn't the percent of cancer be equal to the rest of

society? We also know that certain emotional traumas can trigger cancer. It

is widely reported that often a very bonded couple will pass away within months

of one another. Here we have examples of both the physical and emotional.

It makes sense to approach disease as both physical and emotional. It

certainly doesn't hurt to cover all of one's bases.

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Moe,

Did you read the section " Cancer " ? There are 56 pages there that address

root issues of cancer. (At least in that author's opinion. I think some

valid points were made that puts things in a biological/chemical

perspective, though I know you are inclined towards another direction.

However, some people need to hear it expressed this way.)

I was not looking for a " product " of any kind, and the information presented

(in the cancer section) merely puts forth a very reasonable theory (in my

opinion) about the causes of cancer. The author then gives a rationale for

treating the cancer based on the theories he has put forth. (I'm wondering

if you read this section or some other part of the website that just focused

on the product(s))

I believe in the emotional aspects of disease, but that does not rule out

treating the disease with non-emotional, physical-based remedies. These

physical remedies are forms of energy, too, and therefore are not

inconsistent with being a valid remedy. Some people may respond to Dr.

Hamer's approach, and I do believe the body can heal itself. However, it

takes a very special kind of person to see through this and implement it.

For others, laetril may be helpful, and for others the Hoxsey formula may

work...and so on. There are MANY approaches out there with their proponents

heralding " this is the way " ...and perhaps they all work to some degree for

some people. It almost seems like " religion " , where everyone is claiming

THEY have the truth and the only way is the way they believe. I'm trying to

avoid being in that " one way " thinking.

(From what I've read, there are not many " spontaneous remissions " , though

they do occur. Seems like I've read one in 250,000 cases? A small number,

whatever it is. I'd like to hear the truth, though, if someone knows it.)

Bob B.

Cancer?

> Bob,

> I read your site that you recommend, and it's basically another

> scattergun hogdepodge nutrition site that doesn't address root

> issues of cancer and has not complete theory of any kind.

>

> Anyone with cancer who has been using shark cartiledge has been

> robbed, imo, of perfectly good money they could have spent on a good

> bottle of Merlot that would have at least improved their digestion.

>

> Something that most cancer patients are not told is that their body

> isn't digesting anything, including that tumor, so pouring more

> nutrition into a body that's basically as dead as a dead battery, is

> useless. Nothing happens in the body, until there's digestion and

> assimilation.

>

> Also, as someone who uses vibrational therapies, I'd never use

> garlic which is proven by numerous sources to decrease the electical

> capacity of the body. Bob Becker talks about this pretty often.

>

> Your site also is void of the emotional aspects of the disease and

> like most discussions of cancer, merely treats the body as pieces

> and parts, and not a whole.

>

> This is why Dr. Hamer's site, http://www.newmedicine.ca, offers the

> clearest understanding of cancer that I have ever read, including

> when to know that healing is occuring in the body.

>

> Statistically, is anyone even aware of the percentage of cases of

> cancer are spontaneously remitted??? This isn't a trick question,

> but I'll just wait until someone can accurately respond. This is

> something that every cancer patient should know, but isn't told.

>

> G is right. Let's start talking about the truth about cancer,

> instead of all the peripheral issues that have no impact on the

> disease. Plenty of meat eaters are cured of cancer every day. So,

> it's not about a vegetarian diet. Plenty of people consume monster

> amounts of flax seed oil and die of cancer too, so flax isn't the

> cure. Is reducing meat a good thing? Sure it is, if you're system

> is full of acid and stress. Is eating more flax seed a good thing?

> Sure, if you don't have it at all. But that's not the cure.

>

> The cure is resolving the lesion in the brain that is caused from

> trauma or injury. How to do that, and all the ways that exist to

> heal emotionally are what is missing from this list.

>

> By the way, I also found it amusing that your site discussed heavy

> metal detox as a cancer therapy. A gentleman that used the heavy

> metal soaks and drops from DNR, for 10 days, " cured " his brain

> cancer to the amazement of his doctors. But I'm sure that he's not

> in the norm. Another older gentleman cured his prostate cancer with

> DNR products, from a PSA of 63, to a PSA of 1, but it took over 10

> weeks. These products all involve increasing the body's electrical

> communications and removing energetic blockages, because the body is

> the cure, not the products.

>

> The body has always been the cure. There isn't a need to fight

> cancer, it's always been to support the body. The body knows what

> to do.

>

> Moe Webster

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> The body is the temple of life.

> Energy is the force of life.

> Spirit is the governor of life.

>

> If one of them goes off balance, all three are damaged.

> When the spirit takes command, the body naturally follows it, and

> this arrangement benefits all Three Treasures.

> When the body leads the way, the spirit goes along, and this harms

> all Three Treasures.

>

> ~Wen-tzu Classic (first century BC)

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Hi Violet!

I'm sorry to hear about your husband. My husband had blood in his

urine and was diagnosed with prostatitis (which is a symtom of

candida for men) so maybe he does have leaky gut. I don't know. I

felt compelled to answer your question when you mentioned the diet

soda he drinks all day b/c many of the artificial sweeteners in diet

sodas have been known to cause disease - such as saccarin was proven

to cause bladder cancer. Also, if you do a web search on aspartame,

you can find many stories of individuals who removed it from their

diet and illnesses were healed. You may want to read the label. (Good

luck getting him to stop after 40 yrs though) . Also, candida cleanse

has so many health benefits, it'd be worth the try to see if it

helps.

My prayers will be with you!

>

> Bee, my husband has blood in his urine and feces. It is a lot of

> blood in the feces.

> Does this sound like cancer or what? If it is in the urine too

would

> it be hemmoroids?

> The doctors haven't found the problem yet but he is scheduled for a

> thorough exam at the VA hospital within the month.

> The doctor says he has about two years to live if it is cancer.

> My husband is ready to die, spiritually. He doesn't want to live

with

> the emphysema always limiting his life.

> I am okay with his decision but have times of grief.

>

> I just wonder if blood in urine and the stool is an indication of

> cancer?

> My husband rarely drinks water. He sips on diet colas all day long.

> He has done this for about 40 or more years. I was thinking it

could

> be leaky gut syndrome.

>

> My health continues to improve. I took care of eleven people for 16

> days. I didn't get ill as they were doing. They wouldn't listen to

me

> about the diet and kim chee. Their loss.

>

> Thank you for your input in my life. Violet

>

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> Bee, my husband has blood in his urine and feces. It is a lot of

> blood in the feces. Does this sound like cancer or what? If it is

in the urine too would it be hemmoroids?

==>Hi Violet. Blood in his urine could be related to the bladder,

kidneys or prostrate, and blood in the feces can be caused by

hemorrhoids, bowel obstruction, irritable bowel syndrome, etc.

> The doctors haven't found the problem yet but he is scheduled for a

thorough exam at the VA hospital within the month. The doctor says he

has about two years to live if it is cancer. My husband is ready to

die, spiritually. He doesn't want to live with the emphysema always

limiting his life. I am okay with his decision but have times of

grief.

==>If he has emphysema something can be done about it. The most

important nutrient for the lungs is good nature-made fats because the

lungs require a higher amount of saturated fats to make their cells.

He must eliminate all man-made oils and fats, even olive oil. See

this article by Dr. Tom Cowan: http://www.fourfoldhealing.com/Q & A%

20COPD.htm

==>Candida and cancer are connected, and I believe candida is a

precursor to cancer. He's be wise to do my entire program.

> I just wonder if blood in urine and the stool is an indication of

> cancer?

==>It could be, but it doesn't necessarily means only cancer causes

these symptoms - there are many things it could be.

> My husband rarely drinks water. He sips on diet colas all day long.

> He has done this for about 40 or more years. I was thinking it

could be leaky gut syndrome.

==>I do not believe in the leaky gut syndrome per se, but I believe

he has candida. He must stop drinking diet colas. The aspartame is

not only neurotoxic (causes damage to the nervous system):

NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/ASPARTAME: are the deadliest toxins in our

society because of their ubiquitous presence in thousands of foods

like children's vitamins, medicines, Kool Aid, Jell-O and on every

restaurant table. We're dosed with millions of pounds per year! The

following warning should be on all aspartame products:

CHEMICAL POISON: KEEP OUT OF REACH OF HUMANS! GENOCIDAL! Aspartame

will make you FAT!!!

Here's a website called " Aspartame Poisoning Information Site " with

many articles devoted to the killing power of aspartame:

http://www.aspartame.ca. Read what and ex FDA official has to say

about this coverup. Epidemic sudden deaths from use of aspartame. The

real story about how aspartame was approved. Dropping like flies:

poisoned by ASPARTAME.

==>See many articles in our Sugar, Its Dangers & Damages Folder (in

the files)

> My health continues to improve. I took care of eleven people for 16

days. I didn't get ill as they were doing. They wouldn't listen to me

about the diet and kim chee. Their loss. Thank you for your input in

my life.

I'm so glad you are doing well Violet. You are so welcome for my

input. I'm honored and humbled to be able to help you.

Love & Hugs, Bee

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> Hi Violet!

> I'm sorry to hear about your husband. My husband had blood in his

> urine and was diagnosed with prostatitis (which is a symtom of

> candida for men) so maybe he does have leaky gut. I don't know. I

> felt compelled to answer your question when you mentioned the diet

> soda he drinks all day b/c many of the artificial sweeteners in

diet sodas have been known to cause disease - such as saccarin was

proven to cause bladder cancer. Also, if you do a web search on

aspartame, you can find many stories of individuals who removed it

from their diet and illnesses were healed. You may want to read the

label. (Good luck getting him to stop after 40 yrs though) . Also,

candida cleanse has so many health benefits, it'd be worth the try to

see if it helps. My prayers will be with you!

Hi there. May I ask that you please put your name at the end of your

messages, not only so we know, but also for our blind member,

Maddalena, so she knows when to stop listening. Thanks a bunch.

Also, you probably didn't know but I do not recommend doing any

cleanses for candida, except for self-administered enemas - see the

Not Recommended Supplements & Treatments article after all of the

folders in our Files.

Luv, Bee

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My husband and I did a school paper on corruption, and

chose to write about the Aspartame conspiracy.

When we did our presentation, we handed out little

pieces of paper with all the products that aspartame

is in.. some 1000+ products IIRC.

We also handed out packets of Equal with little skulls

and crossbones on them. Aspartame is BAD news.. if

you are interested in reading our paper here's the

link:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/lowcarb/teampaper_sweeteners.doc

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> Here's a website called " Aspartame Poisoning

> Information Site " with

> many articles devoted to the killing power of

> aspartame:

> http://www.aspartame.ca. Read what and ex FDA

> official has to say

> about this coverup. Epidemic sudden deaths from use

> of aspartame. The

> real story about how aspartame was approved.

> Dropping like flies:

> poisoned by ASPARTAME.

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

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