Re: Dr Simoncini, Baking Soda, and Candida -- jason

[Guest guest]

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> ==>You are not wasting your time by taking natural antifungals for

> sure. They are also antibacterial, antiviral, antiparasitic, etc.,

> etc. and some provide many nutrients as well. You can't just " kill

> off " candida/cancer to totally cure them. The only way to trully

> cure candida is to build up the immune system so it will " make "

> candida change back into the friendly organism it is supposed to be.

> Anyone treated with baking soda will have their cancer/candida return

> again and again if they do not give their bodies the nutrients it

> needs to build up the immune system and keep it that way.

>

#

==hi bee

i found this info in Dr simoncini's book

" it (sodium bicarbonate) acts by destroying the connections - the

intracellular bridges that exist between the cells (fungi) - thus

preventing them from communicating and becoming a common body against

the immune system.

in this way the fungin cells that are then individually exposed to the

defense mechanism of the host, can easily and quickly the phagocyted.

Bicarbonate allows humeral immunity 2 be effectiveand to disintergrate

the colonies, thus favouring the cicatrisation of the tissues.

the immune reaction is impotent when faced by colonies already so large

that they cannot be intimately penetrated and therefore disintergrated. "

Also about antifungals

" there is no useful remedy other than, in my opinion bicarbonate.....we

have seen hat fungi quickly mutated there genetic structure, that means

that after the initial phase of sensitivity to fungicides in a short

time they are able to codify them and to matabolize them without being

damaged by them - rather paradoxically, they extract a benefit from

their high toxicity on the organism....sodium bicarbonate instead, as

it is extremely diffusable and without the structural complexity that

fungi can easily codify, retains its ability to penetrate the masses

for a long time, this is also and especially due to the speed at which

it disintergrates them which makes it impossible for the fungi to adapt

so that it cannot defend itself "

Dr simoncini tell us in his book of people he cured from cancer not

just candida (which eventually progresses into cancer) with sodium

bicarbonate, diet and spiritual health, people who have been cured for

20 years and there cancer did not return.

i wud advise anyone to get his book and get knowleadge about the fungi

we're dealing with

lv joe

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[Guest guest]

I wonder if I could use baking soda douches & enemas?

>i found this info in Dr simoncini's book

>

> " it (sodium bicarbonate) acts by destroying the connections - the

>intracellular bridges that exist between the cells (fungi) - thus

>preventing them from communicating and becoming a common body against

>the immune system.

>in this way the fungin cells that are then individually exposed to the

>defense mechanism of the host, can easily and quickly the phagocyted.

>Bicarbonate allows humeral immunity 2 be effectiveand to disintergrate

>the colonies, thus favouring the cicatrisation of the tissues.

>the immune reaction is impotent when faced by colonies already so large

>that they cannot be intimately penetrated and therefore disintergrated. "

>

>Also about antifungals

>

> " there is no useful remedy other than, in my opinion bicarbonate.....we

>have seen hat fungi quickly mutated there genetic structure, that means

>that after the initial phase of sensitivity to fungicides in a short

>time they are able to codify them and to matabolize them without being

>damaged by them - rather paradoxically, they extract a benefit from

>their high toxicity on the organism....sodium bicarbonate instead, as

>it is extremely diffusable and without the structural complexity that

>fungi can easily codify, retains its ability to penetrate the masses

>for a long time, this is also and especially due to the speed at which

>it disintergrates them which makes it impossible for the fungi to adapt

>so that it cannot defend itself "

>

>Dr simoncini tell us in his book of people he cured from cancer not

>just candida (which eventually progresses into cancer) with sodium

>bicarbonate, diet and spiritual health, people who have been cured for

>20 years and there cancer did not return.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wonder if I could use baking soda douches & enemas?

>

>

==>Yes , you can use baking soda in douches and enemas. Use 1

teaspoon for every 8 ounces of liquid.

Bee

[Guest guest]

hi bee

what do u think about the doctors opinion that the immune system is impotent

wen faced with such large overgrowth and the only treatment that can

disintergrate the fungus/tumours fast enough without the fungi mutating is

bicarbonate? wud b interested to know ur views ont this

lv joe

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> I wonder if I could use baking soda douches & enemas?

>

>

==>Yes , you can use baking soda in douches and enemas. Use 1

teaspoon for every 8 ounces of liquid.

Bee

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[Guest guest]

>

> hi bee

>

> what do u think about the doctors opinion that the immune system is

impotent wen faced with such large overgrowth and the only treatment

that can disintergrate the fungus/tumours fast enough without the fungi

mutating is bicarbonate? wud b interested to know ur views ont this

==>Joe, it is great that the doctor can disintegrate tumours and kill

off candida/cancer with baking soda, which is like an immediate

emergency treatment that will save lives. However the only way to

trully get healthy and not have candida/cancer come back or re-occur

after treatment is to build up the immune system which will " make "

candida/cancer change back into the organism it is supposed to be in

the body.

Bee

[Guest guest]

thanks bee, but cud u address the question of immune potency and adaptation of

fungi,

we know Dr simoncini has patients on dietry and spiritual changes

u are the only person i know that says they are cured, so i am inclined to

beleive wat he says as it fits personal experience

lv joe

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> hi bee

>

> what do u think about the doctors opinion that the immune system is

impotent wen faced with such large overgrowth and the only treatment

that can disintergrate the fungus/tumours fast enough without the fungi

mutating is bicarbonate? wud b interested to know ur views ont this

==>Joe, it is great that the doctor can disintegrate tumours and kill

off candida/cancer with baking soda, which is like an immediate

emergency treatment that will save lives. However the only way to

trully get healthy and not have candida/cancer come back or re-occur

after treatment is to build up the immune system which will " make "

candida/cancer change back into the organism it is supposed to be in

the body.

Bee

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[Guest guest]

>

> thanks bee, but cud u address the question of immune potency and

adaptation of fungi,

>

> we know Dr simoncini has patients on dietry and spiritual changes

>

> u are the only person i know that says they are cured, so i am

inclined to beleive wat he says as it fits personal experience

==>Hi Joe. We do not know what diet Dr. Simoncini recommends, but we

do know that my diet plus supplements, and the elimination of toxins,

builds up the immune system. He may recommend a similar diet, but we

do not know that for sure.

==>With regards to adaptation of fungi, we know that all germs,

bacteria, viruses, parasites and other micro-organism change within

the body itself. Such changes are called " pleomorphism " .

Pleomorphism means many or more (pleo-), forms or bodies (morph-).

Put simply, pleomorphism describes the process by which

microorganisms (bacteria, germs, parasites) can change from one form

to another within the human body.

Doctors call pleomorphism " mutation " which is the same thing -

mutation means an organism that changes from one form to another.

The reason these changes take place in the body is because of a

depressed immune system, and toxins, so it isn't capable of

maintaining health, so the organism(s) mutate (or change) into

different forms in order to clean up/clear out/detoxify the body. In

fact one type of bacteria would develop spontaneously into an other

type given a change in the environmental conditions.

This is based on the research of Antoine Béchamp, who " discovered

that these micro-organisms (germs) feed upon the poisonous material

which they find in the sick organism and prepare it for excretion.

These tiny organisms are derived from still tinier organisms called

microzyma. These microzyma are present in the tissues and blood of

all living organisms [as well as non-living materials like rocks,

plants, soil, etc.] where they remain normally quiescent [quiet, not

active] and harmless. When the welfare of the human body is

threatened by the presence of potentially harmful material, a

transmutation takes place [also called pleomorphism]. The microzyma

changes into a bacterium or virus which immediately goes to work to

rid the body of this harmful material. When the bacteria or viruses

have completed their task of consuming the harmful material they

automatically revert to the microzyma stage. " --Bechamp. Sourced:

Vaccination The " Hidden " Facts by Ian Sinclair, p6

Therefore there are very good reasons for organisms like candida to

change or mutate into different forms. The basic principle is one of

survival in order to get rid of harmful materials/toxins in the

body. Candida gravitates towards mercury, gobbling it up. But we

know that high good saturated fats chelates out all heavy metals.

First the microzyma changes into the simpliest form which is a

virus. If that doesn't work it changes into a bacteria, and

sometimes again changing into different kinds of bacteria. If that

doesn't work it eventually changes into a fungus which is

candida/cancer.

That is why killing candida/cancer doesn't work; while it may

temporarily help the only way is to improve the immune system so that

viruses, bacteria, germs, parasites, candida/cancer will change back

into friendly microzymas again. The cycle of change/mutation goes in

reverse when the body becomes healthy.

Please see the many articles in our Group's Files about pleomorphism

found in the " C) Germ & Antibody Theories Are False " Folder.

Bee

[Guest guest]

bee, thsnkyou 4 ur lengthy reply, much appreciated

lv joe

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> thanks bee, but cud u address the question of immune potency and

adaptation of fungi,

>

> we know Dr simoncini has patients on dietry and spiritual changes

>

> u are the only person i know that says they are cured, so i am

inclined to beleive wat he says as it fits personal experience

==>Hi Joe. We do not know what diet Dr. Simoncini recommends, but we

do know that my diet plus supplements, and the elimination of toxins,

builds up the immune system. He may recommend a similar diet, but we

do not know that for sure.

==>With regards to adaptation of fungi, we know that all germs,

bacteria, viruses, parasites and other micro-organism change within

the body itself. Such changes are called " pleomorphism " .

Pleomorphism means many or more (pleo-), forms or bodies (morph-).

Put simply, pleomorphism describes the process by which

microorganisms (bacteria, germs, parasites) can change from one form

to another within the human body.

Doctors call pleomorphism " mutation " which is the same thing -

mutation means an organism that changes from one form to another.

The reason these changes take place in the body is because of a

depressed immune system, and toxins, so it isn't capable of

maintaining health, so the organism(s) mutate (or change) into

different forms in order to clean up/clear out/detoxify the body. In

fact one type of bacteria would develop spontaneously into an other

type given a change in the environmental conditions.

This is based on the research of Antoine Béchamp, who " discovered

that these micro-organisms (germs) feed upon the poisonous material

which they find in the sick organism and prepare it for excretion.

These tiny organisms are derived from still tinier organisms called

microzyma. These microzyma are present in the tissues and blood of

all living organisms [as well as non-living materials like rocks,

plants, soil, etc.] where they remain normally quiescent [quiet, not

active] and harmless. When the welfare of the human body is

threatened by the presence of potentially harmful material, a

transmutation takes place [also called pleomorphism]. The microzyma

changes into a bacterium or virus which immediately goes to work to

rid the body of this harmful material. When the bacteria or viruses

have completed their task of consuming the harmful material they

automatically revert to the microzyma stage. " --Bechamp. Sourced:

Vaccination The " Hidden " Facts by Ian Sinclair, p6

Therefore there are very good reasons for organisms like candida to

change or mutate into different forms. The basic principle is one of

survival in order to get rid of harmful materials/toxins in the

body. Candida gravitates towards mercury, gobbling it up. But we

know that high good saturated fats chelates out all heavy metals.

First the microzyma changes into the simpliest form which is a

virus. If that doesn't work it changes into a bacteria, and

sometimes again changing into different kinds of bacteria. If that

doesn't work it eventually changes into a fungus which is

candida/cancer.

That is why killing candida/cancer doesn't work; while it may

temporarily help the only way is to improve the immune system so that

viruses, bacteria, germs, parasites, candida/cancer will change back

into friendly microzymas again. The cycle of change/mutation goes in

reverse when the body becomes healthy.

Please see the many articles in our Group's Files about pleomorphism

found in the " C) Germ & Antibody Theories Are False " Folder.

Bee

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