Re: sensitivity to eggs (QUESTIONS)

November 13, 2006

Bee, you wrote " I question

the kinds of eggs they use too. Do they use designer eggs, like

omega 3, or eggs from hens that are fed soy and grains only (gluten

and others; who knows if they are genetically modified as well),

while hens needs insects, worms, bugs and meats for good oils and

fats. Any of these factors affects the nutrients and make-up of the

eggs.

Could you please give me a little more info on what chickens should eat so I

can give this info to my aunt and uncle whom I buy may eggs from. See, I don't

have alot of choices here where I live, and thought my best bet would be to get

them from my relies as they do organic gardening, and are quite knowegable on

such things. They recently told me that they discovered that the feed that they

were giving their chickens, which they thought was so good for them, caused thin

shells and pale yellow yolks. So they have recently switched to a soy based feed

that is enriched and have now noticed a difference. I've noticed a difference in

the eggs also. So now I read that they need meat and insects. What kind of meat?

I would think that they can't get insects to eat in the winter, as we get lots

of cold and snow here in Michigan's Upper Penninsula. If you could tell me, or

send a link that I could check out for them as to how to feed chickens right,

I'd be happy. What about feed

that is enriched with the omega 3's?

I was buying my eggs from a friend, but quit as I found that she was giving

her chickens anything, including left-over cookies. Makes me wonder what eggs

are even safe to buy in the store. In Wallmart they sell organic brown eggs,

free range chicken eggs, and eggs enriched with omega-3's. These are all from

the same company. I've had such a hard time trying to decide which to buy. Why

not combine all three practices in one egg carton. The prices vary also. If I

raised my own chickens, what would be the best way to feed them? (If I lived in

the country I would want to try raising my own chickens.) I could just picture

myself saving my leftover meat scraps, digging for worms and searching for

insects, adding vitamin E and cod liver oil to my feed for them. LOL!!!!!!!

Val

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Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

November 13, 2006

What about feed

If I raised my own chickens, what would be the best way to feed

them? Val

I would love to have my own chickens. My dream is to have a cabin

with on about 3 acres with chickens goats and a cow. Anyway one of

my favorite magazines is " backyard poultry "

http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/ On their web site they have

access to past articles. There have been a few discussions about feed.

Mother earth news http://www.motherearthnews.com/also has pretty good

articles.

Pat Brogan

November 13, 2006

> Bee, you wrote " I question the kinds of eggs they use too. Do

they use designer eggs, like omega 3, or eggs from hens that are fed

soy and grains only (gluten and others; who knows if they are

genetically modified as well), while hens needs insects, worms, bugs

and meats for good oils and fats. Any of these factors affects the

nutrients and make-up of the eggs.

>

> Could you please give me a little more info on what chickens should

eat so I can give this info to my aunt and uncle whom I buy may eggs

from. See, I don't have alot of choices here where I live, and

thought my best bet would be to get them from my relies as they do

organic gardening, and are quite knowegable on such things. They

recently told me that they discovered that the feed that they were

giving their chickens, which they thought was so good for them,

caused thin shells and pale yellow yolks. So they have recently

switched to a soy based feed that is enriched and have now noticed a

difference. I've noticed a difference in the eggs also. So now I read

that they need meat and insects. What kind of meat? I would think

that they can't get insects to eat in the winter, as we get lots of

cold and snow here in Michigan's Upper Penninsula. If you could tell

me, or send a link that I could check out for them as to how to feed

chickens right, I'd be happy. What about feed that is enriched with

the omega 3's?

==>Here's a great reference, but it is a long read:

" Real Eggs from a Real Farm " :

http://www.westonaprice.org/farming/realeggs.html

Here's an excerpt from it:

" What do you feed your chickens? The ideal feed is a combination of

organically grown grains, legumes, grasses, greens, worms and

insects. Less than ideal but still acceptable to many is organic lay

pellets and organically grown corn and soy. At the bottom of the heap

are commercial lay pellets, conventionally grown corn and soy and

cottonseed meal.

==>Note: I visited a farm here in Alberta; they are a Weston A. Price

chapter and they feed their chickens beef scraps all year round, even

though their hens are free-range (they move the chicken coop and

fence around). Did you know no animal or human can " catch " mad cow

disease by eating meat from a cow that has the disease? That is

because BSE or mad cow is a nutrional imbalance and not a disease at

all.

Do you use antibiotics? If the health of a whole flock is threatened,

then the judicial use of antibiotics can usually be tolerated by the

consumer, as long as eggs from that period are not sold. Antibiotics

routinely added to the feed ration, however, must be strictly avoided.

How many birds do you have? How many chickens in the whole operation,

and how many in each flock? Smaller is better. Even with a big

operation, if small flocks are maintained--maximum 100 to 150--then

the chickens can maintain a chicken society (a pecking order) and

will be less stressed.

What are living conditions like for the birds? Do the birds have

regular access to the outdoors? What is the square footage of their

house and yard? If chickens are given enough space, they are less

likely to become stressed and/or diseased.

How fresh are these eggs? Small producers sometimes store eggs for a

period of days or weeks until they have enough to make a delivery.

Eggs should not be older than 10 days when they are brought to

market, and should be labeled with date of harvest.

Are the eggs fertile? What is the ratio of roosters to hens? Anywhere

between 1 to 10 and 1 to 20 is a good balance. If the producer keeps

roosters, the flocks will better resemble a natural chicken society

and the hens will be less stressed. "

>I was buying my eggs from a friend, but quit as I found that she was

giving her chickens anything, including left-over cookies. Makes me

wonder what eggs are even safe to buy in the store. In Wallmart they

sell organic brown eggs, free range chicken eggs, and eggs enriched

with omega-3's. These are all from the same company. I've had such a

hard time trying to decide which to buy. Why not combine all three

practices in one egg carton. The prices vary also. If I raised my

own chickens, what would be the best way to feed them? (If I lived in

the country I would want to try raising my own chickens.) I could

just picture myself saving my leftover meat scraps, digging for worms

and searching for insects, adding vitamin E and cod liver oil to my

feed for them. LOL!!!!!!!

==>I can picture you doing that. LOL! I think there's information

about Omega 3 eggs at www.mercola.com. Free-range is not a regulated

word so any company can use it willy nilly even if the chickens are

confined in large numbers in a fenced-in yard that doesn't have any

insects, worms or grass. My mother also fed our chickens eggshells,

and in those days you could feed them corn because it wasn't

genetically modified.

==>There might be more articles about chickens at

www.westonaprice.org.

The best, Bee

November 13, 2006

>From: Mehner <valiegal50@...>

>If I lived in the country I would want to try raising my own chickens. I

>could just picture myself >saving my leftover meat scraps, digging for

>worms and searching for insects, adding vitamin E and >cod liver oil to my

>feed for them. LOL!!!!!!! Val

,

You are funny! I can't believe people feed their chickens cookies! That's

nuts! ;+)

Shirley

November 14, 2006

>

> >From: Mehner <valiegal50@...>

> >If I lived in the country I would want to try raising my own

chickens. >

> ,

>

> You are funny! I can't believe people feed their chickens cookies!

That's

> nuts! ;+)

>

> Shirley

>

I was talking to a fellow at our farmer's market who sells fresh

eggs. He said he has this book that has everything there is to know

about raising chickens. And in the winter when the chickens are

molting or not laying much that they need more protein in their diet

and to feed them cat food! I guess it might be ok, but I don't know

what all is in cat food. No cookies though LOL.

Gail

November 14, 2006

>I was talking to a fellow at our farmer's market who sells fresh

>eggs. He said he has this book that has everything there is to know

>about raising chickens. And in the winter when the chickens are

>molting or not laying much that they need more protein in their diet

>and to feed them cat food! I guess it might be ok, but I don't know

>what all is in cat food. No cookies though LOL.

>

>Gail

Bee,

All this talk has me thinking about the eggs I eat, all I buy are Eggland's

Best and I was reading the carton today and it says they are vegetarian fed

hens. Soooooooo obviously no worms or any other source of protein, are these

still okay? They are high in Omega-3's but low in Sat fat.

Shirley

November 15, 2006

>Bee; All this talk has me thinking about the eggs I eat, all I buy are

Eggland's Best and I was reading the carton today and it says they are

vegetarian fed hens. Soooooooo obviously no worms or any other source

of protein, are these still okay? They are high in Omega-3's but low in

Sat fat.

>

==> Shirley, unfortunately no they are not okay.

Bee

November 15, 2006

--- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> I buy are

> Eggland's Best

> ==> Shirley, unfortunately no they are not okay.

***Bee,

I use eggland best also, why are they not ok eggs?

Are they not ik for feeding the yeast or are they just

not goo for us in general?

Eventually i would like to incorporate your entire way

of life into ours but i am going slowly. I do the

diet to the T, and a confession.. Up to one week ago i

was having one cheat a day and after a conversation

with debby, i stopped completly. It wasnt as hard to

let it go as i thought it would be, but i havent seen

a difference at all yet.

Thanks... Sue

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