Re: good cholestoral and bad cholesterol?

[Guest guest]

Hi Adam,

Congratulations on the excellent results! As for the cholesterol, that

can be a very confusing issue. We can thank main stream

misinformation for that. But really, you have no need to be concerned.

First cholesterol has been discussed many times in the post. To save

yourself time, you might want to consider simply searching old post,

and you can often time find the answers you are looking for with in

minutes.

Here is a quote from Bee from a previous post, on the topic of

cholesterol. " It is important to know that initially this program

will increase cholesterol because of detoxification... The body deals

with toxins in a very orderly fashion and one of the steps is raising

blood lipids (HDL, LDL and VLDL cholesterol) but they are temporary

while you are detoxifying. "

Additionally, I would recommend reading this article.

http://health.msn.com/centers/cholesterol/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=1001728\

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01 & page=1

Its a main stream article, and even this article outlines the fact

that the cholesterol issue is questionable. And to anyone sick of me

referencing this article, I'm sorry! I know, I know, I have been doing

it a lot lately. But since Irene posted it (thanks Irene) it has come

in handy in so many ways. Sure its less scientific than other

articles I could reference, but that makes it easier to read to some

extent. Thanks to all of you for humoring me. " )

Jecca

>

> ...I havent been on in a long time, but have a bit of a concern.

> Had some blood tests done to check out my cholesterol levels, liver

> function, kidney function and all that.

>

> Every test came back in normal range, excellent results and my good

> cholesterol was very good. BUT there was one slight problem, the b

> bad cholesterol was almost double what it was the last time i was

> tested. And though not immediately serious, the nurse showed a bit

> concern...

[Guest guest]

Hey Adam...

Could you please post the exact number of your LDL???? Is it still

in the " normal range " even though it doubled from the last time you

had it checked? What is your total cholesterol number, and HDL too?

I wouldn't be concerned. I supposedly have (soon to change to HAD) a

great doctor, and all of my family goes to him as well. He has my

dad and 42-year-old brother on statins for cholesterol. My dad had a

heart attack 3 years ago, and was on statins at the time, if I

remember correctly. (I'll ask). He's also the same doctor who put me

on 2 rounds of Ciprofloxin 3 years ago because he thought I " might "

have prostatitis because I had a horrible pain around my kidneys for

2 months. (Adrenals?) I went to see him earlier this year for

fatigue and had to insist on doing all bloodwork. He said my fatigue

is " normal " for someone around 40, and I needed to start exercising

more for depression, or he would be glad to start giving me

antidepressants.

The more I think about it, I would use doctors only for pre-screening

for certain diseases or for emergency purposes only. I think most of

the time, they are " stabbing in the dark. " I believe most of the

people who go to the doctor are suffering from fatigue, chronic

pains, depression, etc... caused by our diets, but the doctors can't

wait to simply dispense the drugs given to them by the pretty drug-

pushing drug reps so everyone can make a lot of money. They try to

mask our symptoms, but in my case, they haven't even been able to do

that!!! *off my soapbox*

Thanks!

Doug

>

> Hi I havent been on in a long time, but have a bit of a concern.

Had

> some blood tests done to check out my cholesterol levels, liver

> function, kidney function and all that.

>

> Every test came back in normal range, excellent results and my good

> cholesterol was very good. BUT there was one slight problem, the

bad

> cholesterol was almost double what it was the last time i was

tested.

> And though not immediately serious, the nurse showed a bit concern.

>

> does anybody understand this bad cholesterol? what are your

opinions? I

> eat a lot of eggs, meat, butter, fat on meat, and I did not used to

eat

> like this as much but every test apart from that was excellent.

B12,

> everything.

>

> Adam.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, thanx for the response.

Here are my results:

Cholesterol: 6.4 mmol/L A

Triglyceride: 0.5 mmol/L

HDL Cholesterol: 1.88 mmol/L

LDL Cholesterol: 4.3 mmol/L A

chol/HDL ratio: 3.4 Ratio

My LDL Cholesterol should not be higher than 2.5 mmol/L according to

this test. And has doubled since last time this test was taken. I

was offered medication for this and I declined. On this test it said

the total cholesterol should be about <4 mmol/L, mine shows 6.4

Was told my " good " cholesterol was excellent, but the " bad "

cholesterol was a little concerning.

I agree that most of our maladies are caused by our diets and much

more for those who are already struggling with other problems as well

as candida. I am doing well on my diet, but just a little edgy over

this bad cholesterol finding and really hope its temporary or not

something I should really concern myself with...

Doctors are too ready to medicate their patients.

Comments welcome.

> Hey Adam...

>

> Could you please post the exact number of your LDL???? Is it still

> in the " normal range " even though it doubled from the last time you

> had it checked? What is your total cholesterol number, and HDL too?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, thanx heaps for the time you gave on your response. Never

repetitive, always other people needing this info.

I hope that in my case the cholesterol is up due to detoxifying..

thanks for the link. I noticed those people had a low " bad "

cholesterol levels and were eating similar foods and fats to me, and

wonder if its my inactivity that is part of the problem here. Im

chronically fatigued pretty much from virus and have trouble with

activity. Is part of the reason why those people have the low levels

because they are living a more active lifestyle? as opposed to the

sedentary lifestyle of the west? I hope to lower my bad chol levels,

but if it's simply a non issue, ok. If it's temporary? great. I like

the sound of the detoxing side of it, hope that's the case with

myself. Ive read a lot of the weston Price articles and the other

ones but my concer is my own bad cholesterol levels doubling. I had

a look on here for older comments on this, but didnt find too many.

Cheers.

> Hi Adam,

>

> Congratulations on the excellent results! As for the cholesterol,

that

> can be a very confusing issue. We can thank main stream

> misinformation for that. But really, you have no need to be

concerned.

> First cholesterol has been discussed many times in the post. To

save

> yourself time, you might want to consider simply searching old post,

> and you can often time find the answers you are looking for with in

> minutes.

>

> Here is a quote from Bee from a previous post, on the topic of

> cholesterol. " It is important to know that initially this program

> will increase cholesterol because of detoxification... The body

deals

> with toxins in a very orderly fashion and one of the steps is

raising

> blood lipids (HDL, LDL and VLDL cholesterol) but they are temporary

> while you are detoxifying. "

>

> Additionally, I would recommend reading this article.

>

> http://health.msn.com/centers/cholesterol/articlepage.aspx?cp-

documentid=1001728\

> 01 & page=1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Areyou in the states??? I've never seen cholesterol numbers given in

figures like you posted. (mmol/L) Most of the time it is posted as

mg/dl

For instance the last time I had mine checked in 2006 (Ideal range

in []) :

Cholesterol 244 mg/dl [<200]

Triglycerides 51 " [<150]

HDL 56 " [>40]

LDL Calculated 178 " [<130]

Chol/HDL ratio: 4.4 [0.0 - 4.5]

Maybe I should be happy my " bad " cholesterol is high?

>

> Here are my results:

>

> Cholesterol: 6.4 mmol/L A

> Triglyceride: 0.5 mmol/L

> HDL Cholesterol: 1.88 mmol/L

> LDL Cholesterol: 4.3 mmol/L A

> chol/HDL ratio: 3.4 Ratio

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Adam,

Like I said, I don't think you should be too concerned especialy since

everything else is so good. I would stick to Bee's diet, and go back

in 6 months and have it retested. You might see enough improvement by

that time to make you feel more at ease. " )

Jecca

>

> Hi, thanx for the response.

>

> Here are my results:

>

> Cholesterol: 6.4 mmol/L A

> Triglyceride: 0.5 mmol/L

> HDL Cholesterol: 1.88 mmol/L

> LDL Cholesterol: 4.3 mmol/L A

> chol/HDL ratio: 3.4 Ratio...

[Guest guest]

Hey Adam,

You are welcome for the response and the link. " )

I also wanted to say that even though your cholesterol should

normalize if you follow bees plan, exercise or lack there of is also

apart of the equation. Exercise helps your body detox. If you

exercise, it helps your lymphatic system do its job better, and helps

move the toxins out of your body faster. Which in the long run should

normalize your cholesterol faster. Now don't panic, I am not

advocating running 15 miles a day, I'm talking about the real simple

stuff like walking 15 minutes a day, just getting up and walking

around will help. A little walk a day does a body good.

Jecca

--- " adam_antics34 " <adam_antics34@...> wrote:

>

> ...I noticed those people had a low " bad "

> cholesterol levels and were eating similar foods and fats to me, and

> wonder if its my inactivity that is part of the problem here. Im

> chronically fatigued pretty much from virus and have trouble with

> activity. Is part of the reason why those people have the low

> levels because they are living a more active lifestyle? as opposed

> to sedentary lifestyle of the west? I hope to lower my bad chol

> levels, but if it's simply a non issue, ok. If it's temporary?

> great. I like the sound of the detoxing side of it, hope that's

> the case with myself...