Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 > > Hi Bee, and everyone else here. > > I have done cleanses and Candida cleanses before. And just absorbed > myself into eating healthy, organic mostly, and fighting exposer to > the elements and processed foods. And trying to educate family and > friends to the dangers of processsed foods, free radical damage, and > environmental dangers. Most of the time it is like a road block that > never clears up with them. But sometimes I actually wake someone up > from their " regular " routine in their life. Usually when something > health wise happens to them. > > I have a step-brother-in-law who is around 34 years old. He is very > much into health, organic eating, etc... Married, has a toddler and a > baby. And was in the process of selling their home and the wife, due > to a transfer they were planning to move out of state. I imagine > there was daily stresses of having babies to care for, trying to sell > a house in a terrible market (Michigan). Maybe his job was not doing > so well. > > Well, this is what happened. One day, about 2 months ago, he woke up > and could not remember who anyone was. Was not sure who he was. Could > not remember anything. In the emergency room of the University of > Michigan (A learning hospital for U of M students no less..been there > many times) They admitted him into the hospital to run a battery of > tests. He as so confused, scared, and screaming to get out of there > they had to strap him down, and sedate him. > > None of the tests came back abnormal. They did every test imaginable > and even took a small sample of his brain! Ughhh! :0 Still tests > were normal. Well, he finally relented to realizing something was > wrong with himself after trying to escape from the hospital several > times. He began to cooperate. <snip> Hi Heidi. That is horrible what they are doing to him. The best documented proof is found in The Yeast Syndrome book, written by Parks Trowbridge, M.D. It was first printed in 1986 so you might have to find it in a used bookstore or online. But as with any other source they do not recommend the correct diet. The documented proof of my diet is found at The Optimal Diet website; http://homodiet.netfirms.com/index.html And there's tons of information on the Weston A. Price Foundation but they do not address candida about good saturated fats, good diets, etc.; http://www.westonaprice.org You may be able to find articles on candida at Dr. Mercola's site: http://www.mercola.com I hope that helps. Bee > > The U of M Hospital had every specialist they could think of working > on this young man who is so full of life. Still everyone is baffled. > They decided to try periodic rounds of Chemotherapy on him. (If you > were wondering If I would object to this if it was me, I say HECK > YES!!!) But for what ever reason after a round of Chemo he was calm, > and managed to remember things. But after a week or so, he is again > back to complete forgetfullness and memory loss. SO they do another > round of Chemo again. There is a hospital in Wisconsin that may be > able to help them, but no one will make the first step and get him > over there. I have said, if he has to go out of the country to find > out what is wrong with him, help him pack now! But no one will take > that step! (this is so frustrating and makes me so angry to hear this > lack of motivation). > > We are dealing with a man that seems like he is going to die? He > can't remember things normally, he might remember his child, but > forget her name. He might remember my husbands name, but look puzzled > as if to think " I know you but why " ? He can't live with his wife and > children anymore because he is not safe in his home. He needs 24 hour > supervision, Has to write everything down in order to remember it, > Even in the bathroom he is forgetting why he is in there. This is > very serious! > > I spoke with his mom (my step-mother-in-law) last saturday. I asked > her if she might advise him to do a Candida Cleanse, and get on a > natural all body system cleanse. (This is all I can ask of her). I am > sure it went in one ear and out the other. But I read here and there, > Bee, that Candida can be a cause of memory loss? I told this to her. > She piped up and said, " well, he is into all the organic and natural > diets, and heatlhy as an ox! " I asked her to look into it with him > because it can't hurt and all other attempts have been exausted, > maybe his body is toxic and is hurting himself? > > Is there any studies done that I can show her proof that this may > infact be causing his terrible memory loss. His symptoms are almost > exactly like Dementia " and " Alheizmers. He is now living with his > father who can be with him 24/7. His mother also has a big influcence > on what happens to him medically. Her brother is a doctor and has put > him in touch with the best specialists.... as far as we know? The > Chemo being done on him is only going to hurt him in the long run as > it kills off his immune system, and slowly will kill him over time. > > I need documented proof that I can show her in order to get her butt > in gear and do something else for him. (That is if she never did > discuss Candida and body cleanses). > > Any help I can provide her would be DEEPLY appreciated on behalf of > my step-brother-in-law. I hate not being able to do anything for him. > > Sincerly, > Heidi Hanna > cruebaby@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 --- Heidi <cruebaby@...> wrote: > he woke up and could not remember who anyone was. What a terrible story. My dad just got diagnosed with alzheimers and I sent my mum and him a great book by a man how cured himslef and now has a theory (very similar to Bee's writings) of the underlying cause of many mental illnesses (including candida, bad nutrition, environmental toxins and mercury fillings): " Beating Alzheimer's A step towards unlocking the mysteries of brain diseases " Tom Warren My mum who does not believe in any alternative treatments said thank you very much and reminded me that it was useless to try anything. So, I know how frustrating it can feel. But I say to myself, all I can do is to provide them with the information, then I have to accept whatever their desicion is. It's hard but anything else would just drive me nuts with frustration. Then you can also print out and send them info from Bees' site. That would probably be very helpful too. You never know, someone might be bored some day and start to read and be caught in and actually change their minds. I have often noticed that when information comes from ME, it's disregarded, but if it's from a book or especially a doctor or something, then all of a sudden it's truth. lol ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I have a strategy that I've had some success with when it comes to convincing family and friends to accept alternative medicine. My mom was and is a believer in traditional medicine. She used to be a nurse. BUT, over the past decade I've convinced her to treat her arthritis holistically, treat her sarcoidisis in a similar fashion, try similar remedies for insomnia, give up canned food, soda and margarine, try intestinal cleanses and give up steroid medicines. She supported me in my quest to get an alternative treatment for my Dad's brain cancer. She did not really believe me about the candida, but last week she did a little research on the Internet and then called me up to grill me about my diet. These may seem like small steps, but as she grills me about my treatment, my goal is to get her to open her mind to the fact that all her autoimmune illnesses are related and that she might also have candida. We share the same bad habits... I've had similar successes with family members and friends. Admittedly since my candida has destroyed my health, my voice is less convincing now, then in the past One of the ways I convince people is with data. I try to find studies that have been conducted, trials are very convincing as well. Try to provide them the information from as many mainstream sources as possible. The US media is often so censored in this area, but main stream press from abroad- particularly the UK, Australia, Germany, Japan and Canada seem to pass most people's non-quack litmus test. Info from the World Health Organization seems to work too. When I find a study or report from an alternative media outlet, if it was conducted at a university or research facility, I go get the study from their web site, so again they do not think I'm sending them info from what they would consider a non-reliable resource. If the study gets TV news coverage, see if the segment is downloadable or repeating. The treatment for my Dad was featured on 60 minutes. While I spent hours in a medical library researching it, 60 minutes did much of my sales pitch for me. Case studies alone do not seem to do the trick. Case studies alone do not seem to do the trick. However, for my dad's brain cancer, we talked to and met four patients who were five+ year survivors. (His form of cancer had a life expectancy of 3-6 months). I've also noticed that people who are not into alternative medicine seem to trust MDs who practice integrative medicine more than the word of NDs. (unfortunately) If they are aware of something small that worked on you and they might be willing to try it on themselves if they have the small ailment. For example, something that deals with sinus trouble, headaches, cramps or allergies. Once you have a small success, they they will trust your opinion more when it comes to more serious illness. One Caveat, getting them to make a lifestyle change is most difficult. I'm still struggling with that one myself. My situation with my mom is not as urgent with yours, but you my try finding them an MD that practices integrative medicine that understand the true causes of these illnesses. When you present the MD's theories, present his or her credentials as well. I hope this helps a little Tracey son wrote: > My mum who does not believe in any alternative > treatments said thank you very much and reminded me > that it was useless to try anything. So, I know how > frustrating it can feel. But I say to myself, all I > can do is to provide them with the information, then I > have to accept whatever their desicion is. It's hard > but anything else would just drive me nuts with > frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Hello and Heidi, I knew Tom Warren, and know his wife and friends - everything in Reversing Alzheimer's is true. I did see the before and after x-rays of his brain. I think he's the only clinically documented person (with x-rays, tests, etc.) to be cured of Alzheimer's. He helped many others towards better health and was an absolutely lovely man. I watched him change an Alzheimer patient's health. He wrote another book, Reversing Chronic Disease. I don't know if they're still available as I bought both of mine from Tom. If Bee prefers we take this off List; please feel free to contact me. If you're interested, I'll call Tom's wife and ask her where the new books are sold. Meg (near Seattle) On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:24 PM, wrote: >> Recent Activity > Candida Support Group by Bee >> roup | Reply via web post > 8c.Re: Can Candida cause Amnesia/Alheizmers Symptoms? > Posted by: " son " elisabeteriksson@... > elisabeterikssonMon Jun 25, 2007 5:41 pm (PST) > --- Heidi <cruebaby@...> wrote: > > > he woke up and could not remember who anyone was. > > What a terrible story. My dad just got diagnosed with > alzheimers and I sent my mum and him a great book by a > man how cured himslef and now has a theory (very > similar to Bee's writings) of the underlying cause of > many mental illnesses (including candida, bad > nutrition, environmental toxins and mercury fillings): > > " Beating Alzheimer's > A step towards unlocking the mysteries of brain > diseases " > Tom Warren > > My mum who does not believe in any alternative > treatments said thank you very much and reminded me > that it was useless to try anything. So, I know how > frustrating it can feel. But I say to myself, all I > can do is to provide them with the information, then I > have to accept whatever their desicion is. It's hard > but anything else would just drive me nuts with > frustration. > > Then you can also print out and send them info from > Bees' site. That would probably be very helpful too. > You never know, someone might be bored some day and > start to read and be caught in and actually change > their minds. I have often noticed that when > information comes from ME, it's disregarded, but if > it's from a book or especially a doctor or something, > then all of a sudden it's truth. lol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 --- Meg <megalef@...> wrote: > Hello and Heidi, > I knew Tom Warren, and know his wife and friends - > everything in Reversing Alzheimer's is true. Wow, that's amazing to hear. I know he talks a lot about candida's connection to Alzheimers too. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I have a strategy that I've had some success with when it comes to convincing family and friends to accept alternative medicine. My mom was and is a believer in traditional medicine. She used to be a nurse. BUT, over the past decade I've convinced her to treat her arthritis holistically, treat her sarcoidisis in a similar fashion, try similar remedies for insomnia, give up canned food, soda and margarine, try intestinal cleanses and give up steroid medicines. She supported me in my quest to get an alternative treatment for my Dad's brain cancer. She did not really believe me about the candida, but last week she did a little research on the Internet and then called me up to grill me about my diet. These may seem like small steps, but as she grills me about my treatment, my goal is to get her to open her mind to the fact that all her autoimmune illnesses are related and that she might also have candida. We share the same bad habits... I've had similar successes with family members and friends. Admittedly since my candida has destroyed my health, my voice is less convincing now, then in the past One of the ways I convince people is with data. I try to find studies that have been conducted, trials are very convincing as well. Try to provide them the information from as many mainstream sources as possible. The US media is often so censored in this area, but main stream press from abroad- particularly the UK, Australia, Germany, Japan and Canada seem to pass most people's non-quack litmus test. Info from the World Health Organization seems to work too. When I find a study or report from an alternative media outlet, if it was conducted at a university or research facility, I go get the study from their web site, so again they do not think I'm sending them info from what they would consider a non-reliable resource. If the study gets TV news coverage, see if the segment is downloadable or repeating. The treatment for my Dad was featured on 60 minutes. While I spent hours in a medical library researching it, 60 minutes did much of my sales pitch for me. Case studies alone do not seem to do the trick. Case studies alone do not seem to do the trick. However, for my dad's brain cancer, we talked to and met four patients who were five+ year survivors. (His form of cancer had a life expectancy of 3-6 months). I've also noticed that people who are not into alternative medicine seem to trust MDs who practice integrative medicine more than the word of NDs. (unfortunately) If they are aware of something small that worked on you and they might be willing to try it on themselves if they have the small ailment. For example, something that deals with sinus trouble, headaches, cramps or allergies. Once you have a small success, they they will trust your opinion more when it comes to more serious illness. One Caveat, getting them to make a lifestyle change is most difficult. I'm still struggling with that one myself. My situation with my mom is not as urgent with yours, but you my try finding them an MD that practices integrative medicine that understand the true causes of these illnesses. When you present the MD's theories, present his or her credentials as well. I hope this helps a little Tracey son wrote: > My mum who does not believe in any alternative > treatments said thank you very much and reminded me > that it was useless to try anything. So, I know how > frustrating it can feel. But I say to myself, all I > can do is to provide them with the information, then I > have to accept whatever their desicion is. It's hard > but anything else would just drive me nuts with > frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 --- " Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) " <tdlists@...> wrote: > I have a strategy that I've had some success with > when it comes to > convincing family and friends to accept alternative > medicine. My mom I just tell people some of my results.. weight loss, psoriasis cured, normalized blood sugars, etc. But then some people cringe when they find out they can't eat junk food. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/242/170 ------------- Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved. --Helen Keller My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Heal yourself with nutrition: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Wow, Tracey, your interactions with your mom and dad give me a lot of hope for my own family. I plan to use your suggestions as I pass them information in the future. Thanks again. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Thank you. Good luck . My Mom just came to visit me and old me that last week she downloaded 20 pages of info on Candida to read on the plane and nothing anybody as could now convince her that I don't have Candida. She then proceeded to grill me about my diet and what pharmaceuticals my doctor was prescribing and if I was taking any anti-fungal herbs. She asked me to get her some supplements for her arthritis and after that she seemed open minded when I discussed briefly that I thought her auto-immune illnesses are related and that we should start looking to treat them as one illness. Tracey tjay1302007 wrote: > > Wow, Tracey, your interactions with your mom and dad give me a lot of > hope for my own family. > I plan to use your suggestions as I pass them information in the future. > Thanks again. > M. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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