Re: Coconut Oil & Salicylates

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I know you directed this email to Bee, and she can answer your

questions far better than I, but I just wanted to mention that I

recall reading somewhere that salicylates have antifungal properties,

and one " predator " they work especially well against is fungus and

mold. I couldn't find the specific link to it now, but if you google

antifungal and salicylates and/or salicylic acid you will find enough

links to read. I would think that people's sensitivity to salicylates

maybe like what most food " allergies " turn out to be, actual healing

reactions and die off rather than an aversion that needs to be monitored.

Jecca

> ...Coconut oil is known to be high in salicylates, which some have

> noted are essentially plant 'toxins' which are inherent in the plant

> product as a self-defense mechanism against predators...

>

> What is your perspective on the very high salycilate content of

> coconut oil and the extremely low salicylate content of practically

> all animal foods such as eggs, butter, pork, beef, etc.?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello, Bee.

>

> Coconut oil is known to be very high in salicylates, which some have

> noted are essentially plant 'toxins' which are inherent in the plant

> product as a self-defense mechanism against 'predators.' They want

you

> to feel it when you consume it. When I consume coconut oil, I notice

> that I have more increased loose stools and more frequent stools

> overall. When I do not consume coconut oil, yet I consume large

> amounts of butter, I do not experience this same effect of loose

> stools at an increased frequency.

>

> What is your perspective on the very high salycilate content of

> coconut oil and the extremely low salicylate content of practically

> all animal foods such as eggs, butter, pork, beef, etc.?

==>You can isolate many different kinds of substances in foods from

the whole food and through experiments find that it may cause

problems. I don't believe in maligning good foods from Mother

nature. If we worried about salicylates and other substances in food

we wouldn't eat any of them.

==>I believe the reason you are reacting to coconut oil more than

butter is because coconut oil is a stronger antifungal which creates

die-off symptoms.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ...Just a trace amount of butter, I am talking 1/8

> tsp or less, will cause me to retain water... Yet I can eat...

> coconut oil... and not have any reaction at all. That's why it is so

> hard for me to believe that they are healing reactions and not an

> intolerance. If my body is healing shouldn't I have a healing reaction

> to all healthy foods and just a few?

Do you get this same reaction to ghee as you do to butter?

[Guest guest]

Wondering if butter could be causing my edema also? I wrote about this

earlier.

Happiness, Ellen " -)

>

> I have the opposite problem. Just a trace amount of butter, I am

talking 1/8

> tsp or less will cause me to retain water for the next 24 to 36

hours to the

> point that I look like I am pregnant. Yet I can eat 12 to 15

tablespoons of

> coconut oil in one day and not have any reaction at all. That's why

it is so

> hard for me to believe that they are healing reactions and not an

> intolerance. If my body is healing shouldn't I have a healing

reaction to

> all healthy foods and just a few?

>

[Guest guest]

When I would eat large amounts of coconut oil or coconut milk in my old

diet (with grains, sugars, and dairy,) nothing would happen. Only

along with the candida diet it causes the die off symptoms.

>

> > ...Just a trace amount of butter, I am talking 1/8

> > tsp or less, will cause me to retain water... Yet I can eat...

> > coconut oil... and not have any reaction at all. That's why it is so

> > hard for me to believe that they are healing reactions and not an

> > intolerance. If my body is healing shouldn't I have a healing

reaction

> > to all healthy foods and just a few?

>

> Do you get this same reaction to ghee as you do to butter?

>

[Guest guest]

Have either of you tried ghee instead of butter? The milk solids

found in butter that are not present in ghee, can cause problems for

some poeple early on in the diet. Try ghee, and if you don't react to

that, then I would say your reactiosn were from the milk solids...

>

> Wondering if butter could be causing my edema also? I wrote about

> this earlier.

> Happiness, Ellen " -)

>

> > ...Just a trace amount of butter, I am talking 1/8

> > tsp or less will cause me to retain water...

> > Yet I can eat 12 to 15 tablespoons of

> > coconut oil in one day and not have any reaction at all.

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, that is so weird. I know when I first started adding butter

back into my diet, my die off was worse than any other antifungal I

used, even nystatin, but I was able to get use to it pretty quickly.

You don't think its die off though?

> >

> > Wondering if butter could be causing my edema also? I wrote about

> > this earlier.

> > Happiness, Ellen " -)

> >

> > > ...Just a trace amount of butter, I am talking 1/8

> > > tsp or less will cause me to retain water...

> > > Yet I can eat 12 to 15 tablespoons of

> > > coconut oil in one day and not have any reaction at all.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ==>I believe the reason you are reacting to coconut oil more than

> butter is because coconut oil is a stronger antifungal which

creates

> die-off symptoms.

>

> Bee

>

> I have the opposite problem. Just a trace amount of butter, I am

talking 1/8

> tsp or less will cause me to retain water for the next 24 to 36

hours to the

> point that I look like I am pregnant. Yet I can eat 12 to 15

tablespoons of

> coconut oil in one day and not have any reaction at all. That's why

it is so

> hard for me to believe that they are healing reactions and not an

> intolerance. If my body is healing shouldn't I have a healing

reaction to

> all healthy foods and just a few?

> Thanks, a

==>Some foods create more healing/die-off/detoxing reactions than

others because they are more antifungal, antiparasitic, antiviral,

etc. than others, or because they contain the exact nutrients you are

lacking the most. For example: many candida sufferers react to eggs

because eggs contain sulphur which is one of the 7 macrominerals the

body requires and it is also antifungal.

If you react to any particular " healthy " food start with small

amounts and only gradually increase them every 4-5 days; also ensure

you are getting that food in the most unadulterated form possible,

i.e. butter is best if it is raw and unpasteurized.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Wondering if butter could be causing my edema also? I wrote about

this

> earlier.

> Happiness, Ellen " -)

==>I doubt that butter would " cause " edema because good fats help

your body utilize water as this article states:

http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/dryskin.html

" . . . the water in our cells is actually derived from the metabolism

of fats. (The water we drink mostly goes into the blood stream and

then out via the kidneys.) It follows, therefore, that when the skin

is dry, it means there is a relative imbalance or deficiency of fats,

especially compared to the levels of carbohydrates in the diet. "

If you have had edema in the past your body could be re-tracing such

episodes while healing naturally.

Bee