Re: protein & fat

[Guest guest]

Hi Vida,

Is that your name?

Are you counting the fat in the protein as part of your fat intake? I wasn't

sure by what you were writing.

You can increase your fat intake slowly until you get up to the required

amount. After you do it for a while it doesn't seem like all that much

anymore. Also, it's not advised to cook with olive oil. Coconut oil, palm

oil, and animal fats are good for cooking.

a

>Ok, I'm trying to stick to the ratios I'm supposed to be eating, 30g

carbs, 60g protein, and about 160-180g fat per day, but I seem to be

having trouble. 60g of protein is like 8oz of meat/chicken/fish and a

few eggs, spread throughout the day, which is fine. The 30g of carbs

is not too difficult to stick with either, but the fat part of it is

hard. Even after the 6 tblsps of coconut oil in the day, there are

still a lot of fat grams to fill. When I cook I use plenty of olive

oil and butter, but still it is hard to get in that much fat. Plus, I

csn't really eat too much animal fat because that is usually

accompanied by protein, which I'm trying not to go over 60g a day.

Before this diet, I was doing low carb/high fat, but eating plenty of

cheese and cream which adds lots of fat, but of course now know those

things are not good for me. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I add spoons of coconut oil and butter to soups, I buy the fattiest

cuts of meat I can, I eat chicken skin, use Bee's egg drink or the ice

cream recipe, eat only egg yolks (since that is where the fat is) and

add butter to my tea. You'll get the hang of it, after awhile, it

will become second nature to sneak fat into almost everything you eat.

--- " Vida Khan " <vidamarino@...> wrote:

>

> Ok, I'm trying to stick to the ratios I'm supposed to be eating, 30g

> carbs, 60g protein, and about 160-180g fat per day, but I seem to be

> having trouble. 60g of protein is like 8oz of meat/chicken/fish and

> few eggs, spread throughout the day, which is fine. The 30g carbs

> is not too difficult to stick with either, but the fat part of it is

> hard. Even after the 6 tblsps of coconut oil in the day, there are

> still a lot of fat grams to fill. When I cook I use plenty of olive

> oil and butter, but still it is hard to get in that much fat. Plus,

> I can't really eat too much animal fat because that is usually

> accompanied by protein, which I'm trying not to go over 60g a day.

> Before this diet, I was doing low carb/high fat, but eating plenty

> of cheese and cream which adds lots of fat, but of course now know

> those things are not good for me. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Thanks all for your responses. I do eat coconut milk every once in a

while, and it looks like there is only 2g carb per serving, but it is

in a can so that is a no no too...it's just that it was easy to get

in fat grams without raising my protein grams. Fattier cuts of meat

is a good idea, but butter in tea??? Sounds interesting, but maybe I

will give it a try. Unfortunately, my husband does not like coconut

oil so I can't really cook with it for us, I just take it before

meals melted in some warm water along with clove oil. I guess butter

would be ok to cook with?

> >

> > Ok, I'm trying to stick to the ratios I'm supposed to be eating,

30g

> > carbs, 60g protein, and about 160-180g fat per day, but I seem to

be

> > having trouble. 60g of protein is like 8oz of meat/chicken/fish

and

> > few eggs, spread throughout the day, which is fine. The 30g

carbs

> > is not too difficult to stick with either, but the fat part of it

is

> > hard. Even after the 6 tblsps of coconut oil in the day, there

are

> > still a lot of fat grams to fill. When I cook I use plenty of

olive

> > oil and butter, but still it is hard to get in that much fat.

Plus,

> > I can't really eat too much animal fat because that is usually

> > accompanied by protein, which I'm trying not to go over 60g a

day.

> > Before this diet, I was doing low carb/high fat, but eating

plenty

> > of cheese and cream which adds lots of fat, but of course now

know

> > those things are not good for me. Does anyone have any

suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Butter is great to cook with, and you can also use palm oil too.

As for tea with butter, someone posted about it earlier this year, and

what I like is a tablepoon of butter (or coconut oil which ever you

like best) and some lemon juice (very little as I am senstive to it at

times) in my P'au D'arco tea. Gives it a rich texture that I enjoy. " )

--- " Vida Khan " <vidamarino@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks all for your responses. I do eat coconut milk every once in

a while, and it looks like there is only 2g carb per serving, but it

is in a can so that is a no no too...it's just that it was easy to get

in fat grams without raising my protein grams. Fattier cuts of meat

is a good idea, but butter in tea??? Sounds interesting, but maybe I

will give it a try. Unfortunately, my husband does not like coconut

oil so I can't really cook with it for us, I just take it before

meals melted in some warm water along with clove oil. I guess butter

would be ok to cook with?

[Guest guest]

Vida,

The amount of carbs in the coconut milk aren't the concern...it's that

they are from sugar.

jackie

>

> Thanks all for your responses. I do eat coconut milk every once in a

> while, and it looks like there is only 2g carb per serving, but it is

> in a can so that is a no no too...

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok, I'm trying to stick to the ratios I'm supposed to be eating, 30g

> carbs, 60g protein, and about 160-180g fat per day, but I seem to be

> having trouble. 60g of protein is like 8oz of meat/chicken/fish and

a

> few eggs, spread throughout the day, which is fine. The 30g of carbs

> is not too difficult to stick with either, but the fat part of it is

> hard. Even after the 6 tblsps of coconut oil in the day, there are

> still a lot of fat grams to fill. When I cook I use plenty of olive

> oil and butter, but still it is hard to get in that much fat. Plus,

I

> csn't really eat too much animal fat because that is usually

> accompanied by protein, which I'm trying not to go over 60g a day.

> Before this diet, I was doing low carb/high fat, but eating plenty of

> cheese and cream which adds lots of fat, but of course now know those

> things are not good for me. Does anyone have any suggestions?

==>Hi. What is your name please? Remember to add cod liver oil to

your total fat intake. I slatter butter on my meats and veggies after

they are cooked, also pour over them coconut oil used to cook them in.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks all for your responses. I do eat coconut milk every once in

a while, and it looks like there is only 2g carb per serving, but it

is in a can so that is a no no too...it's just that it was easy to

get in fat grams without raising my protein grams.

==>Coconut milk is made by expressing it from shredded coconut;

shredded coconut is treated with nitrates, which doesn't have to be

included on the label.

> Fattier cuts of meat is a good idea, but butter in tea??? Sounds

interesting, but maybe I will give it a try. Unfortunately, my

husband does not like coconut oil so I can't really cook with it for

us, I just take it before meals melted in some warm water along with

clove oil. I guess butter would be ok to cook with?

==>The coconut oils I have used do not have any taste of coconuts

whatsoever, but that depends upon the brand used. Butter burns very

easily at very low temperatures so it isn't wise to use it either.

Use lard or bacon grease to cook with.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Butter is great to cook with, and you can also use palm oil too.

==>Jecca, butter burns very easily at low temperatures so it isn't

great to use. It is also hard to get a good palm oil for cooking that

tastes okay. The best cooking fats are: coconut oil, lard, and bacon

grease.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Mmmm, bacon fat is yummy! But, my husband does not eat pork, never

has, and doesn't want me to either Would refined coconut oil be

ok for cooking? I know that has no flavor. Thanks.

> >

> > Thanks all for your responses. I do eat coconut milk every once

in

> a while, and it looks like there is only 2g carb per serving, but

it

> is in a can so that is a no no too...it's just that it was easy to

> get in fat grams without raising my protein grams.

>

> ==>Coconut milk is made by expressing it from shredded coconut;

> shredded coconut is treated with nitrates, which doesn't have to be

> included on the label.

>

> > Fattier cuts of meat is a good idea, but butter in tea??? Sounds

> interesting, but maybe I will give it a try. Unfortunately, my

> husband does not like coconut oil so I can't really cook with it

for

> us, I just take it before meals melted in some warm water along

with

> clove oil. I guess butter would be ok to cook with?

>

> ==>The coconut oils I have used do not have any taste of coconuts

> whatsoever, but that depends upon the brand used. Butter burns

very

> easily at very low temperatures so it isn't wise to use it either.

> Use lard or bacon grease to cook with.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee! Now that you mention it, I can't help but feel I should

have know this, as it seems like I read it on previous post. Thanks

for reminding me! " )

--- " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> ==>Jecca, butter burns very easily at low temperatures so it isn't

> great to use. It is also hard to get a good palm oil for cooking that

> tastes okay. The best cooking fats are: coconut oil, lard, and bacon

> grease.

[Guest guest]

>

> Mmmm, bacon fat is yummy! But, my husband does not eat pork, never

> has, and doesn't want me to either Would refined coconut oil be

> ok for cooking? I know that has no flavor. Thanks.

==>No, never use refined coconut oil, not even on your skin. There are

numerous coconut oil products that have absolutely no coconut flavor at

all. See our " C) Coconut Oil " folder for a survey done by Jackie a

couple of years ago; it will tell you which ones have flavor and which

do not.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee! Now that you mention it, I can't help but feel I should

> have know this, as it seems like I read it on previous post. Thanks

> for reminding me! " )

==>Jecca. You can put some butter in coconut oil or other fats for

flavor, and it will not burn as easily, but it still must be on very

low heat. I love shrimp cooked in CO and butter! There's nothing

better than butter for taste. Of course I also indulge by buying

Goat's Milk butter, which costs me $7.99 per 1/2 lb. - I must love it a

lot, eh?

Bacon grease is also very tasty!

Love, Bee

[Guest guest]

Since I can't find good bacon around here, I got a pork shank and shoulder,

both with quite a bit of fat on top. I put each in a cast iron skillet and

baked them on 325 degrees. A lot of the fat already cooked into the pan. Yet

there was still a thick layer of fat on both which I cut off when the roasts

were done and cooked them in the cast iron skillet until all the fat was

rendered. I now us it for cooking and it's yummy. I also ate the remaining

crunchy bits of fat which were even more yummy.

>

> Thanks Bee! Now that you mention it, I can't help but feel I should

> have know this, as it seems like I read it on previous post. Thanks

> for reminding me! " )

==>Jecca. You can put some butter in coconut oil or other fats for

flavor, and it will not burn as easily, but it still must be on very

low heat. I love shrimp cooked in CO and butter! There's nothing

better than butter for taste. Of course I also indulge by buying

Goat's Milk butter, which costs me $7.99 per 1/2 lb. - I must love it a

lot, eh?

Bacon grease is also very tasty!

Love, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee! But I have another question then, would ghee burn too

easily too? And I was meaning to try goat milk butter awhile back,

and never did, I think I'll get some the next trip to the health

store. " )

Jecca

--- " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> ==>Jecca. You can put some butter in coconut oil or other fats for

> flavor, and it will not burn as easily, but it still must be on very

> low heat. I love shrimp cooked in CO and butter! There's nothing

> better than butter for taste. Of course I also indulge by buying

> Goat's Milk butter, which costs me $7.99 per 1/2 lb. - I must love

> it a lot, eh?

>

> Bacon grease is also very tasty!

>

> Love, Bee