Re: Theobromine and decaf coffee

[Guest guest]

Theobromine is in the same class of xanthines as theophylline, and

most noteably, caffeine. I personally believe it is not wise to

consume any coffee or tea products, as these are essentially toxins to

the body. As I've posted before, I believe they are defense mechanisms

intended to disrupt the endocrine, adrenal, and immune systems of

those organisms that consume them. This helps ensure survival of the

plant.

Best,

>

> Hi Bee,

> It's been mentioned recently that in 's book, " Adrenal

> Fatigue " , he recommends against any kind of decaf coffee due to the

> theobromine (a stimulant) content. Could you comment on this since

> decaf Swiss water decaf is ok on this program? I enjoy about 1/4 of a

> cup or less in my Bee drinks and don't want to be hurting my adrenals

> further. What is your recommendation?

> Thanks, Anita T.

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting theory! I quit drinking coffee (with plenty of heavy

whipping cream and raw sugar) last week in preparation for beginning

the diet. I drank 2 cups each morning for the past 6 months. (Didn't

drink much at all prior to that). The really " strange " feeling I've

had for a long time has not been so evident this week either!

Also, this evening, I drank my first cup of " sage " tea from the dried

leaves from our herb garden. It wasn't bad at all! Next year, I'll

use a lot more sage!

I'm looking forwards to trying all kinds of new things!

Doug

>

> Theobromine is in the same class of xanthines as theophylline, and

> most noteably, caffeine. I personally believe it is not wise to

> consume any coffee or tea products, as these are essentially toxins to

> the body. As I've posted before, I believe they are defense mechanisms

> intended to disrupt the endocrine, adrenal, and immune systems of

> those organisms that consume them. This helps ensure survival of the

> plant.

>

> Best,

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Interesting theory! I quit drinking coffee (with plenty of heavy

>whipping cream and raw sugar) last week in preparation for beginning

>the diet. I drank 2 cups each morning for the past 6 months. (Didn't

>drink much at all prior to that). The really " strange " feeling I've

>had for a long time has not been so evident this week either!

Hi Doug - did you have any withdrawal symptoms when quitting the coffee? I

am still drinking green or white tea in the morning but hope to get off all

caffeine.

a

[Guest guest]

I'm wondering if green tea would contain these? Isn't green tea supposed to be

very good for us? I used to drink it all the time and would like feed back on

this. Val

<jayppers2672@...> wrote: Theobromine is in the same class

of xanthines as theophylline, and

most noteably, caffeine. I personally believe it is not wise to

consume any coffee or tea products, as these are essentially toxins to

the body. As I've posted before, I believe they are defense mechanisms

intended to disrupt the endocrine, adrenal, and immune systems of

those organisms that consume them. This helps ensure survival of the

plant.

Best,

>

> Hi Bee,

> It's been mentioned recently that in 's book, " Adrenal

> Fatigue " , he recommends against any kind of decaf coffee due to the

> theobromine (a stimulant) content. Could you comment on this since

> decaf Swiss water decaf is ok on this program? I enjoy about 1/4 of a

> cup or less in my Bee drinks and don't want to be hurting my adrenals

> further. What is your recommendation?

> Thanks, Anita T.

>

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[Guest guest]

No... a few weeks ago, one day I didn't drink any and got a

headache. (Headaches are very rare with me). So I started drinking

every 2 days even before I found Bee's site. I quit last week cold

turkey, and haven't had any headaches. So far, I've also started

using only my high-quality Calphalon stainless steel pans, (giving

the calphalon non-stick pans to charity), I also gave my microwave to

charity which I've had for 18 years since college days... and I've

given up sugar almost entirely, bad oils, legumes, beer, potato

chips, and o-t-c medicines. Progessing slowly... I'm glad I won't be

on Bee's diet for Thanksgiving, but I will not eat any desserts

though. Christmas, everyone will think I've gone crazy... again.

> Hi Doug - did you have any withdrawal symptoms when quitting the

coffee? I

> am still drinking green or white tea in the morning but hope to get

off all

> caffeine.

>

> a

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm wondering if green tea would contain these? Isn't green tea

supposed to be very good for us? I used to drink it all the time and

would like feed back on this. Val

>

Val, As we know, green tea does contain caffeine - but it does not

contain theobromine. It does contain many polyphenols which are

potent antioxidants the are very good for the body as well as

theanine which is a natural relaxant/tranquilizer. EGCG, one of the

antioxidants in green tea is said to be at least 100 times more

effective than vitamin C and 25 times more effective than vitamin E

at protecting cells and DNA from damage believed to be linked to

cancer, heart disease, and other serious illnesses. Green tea has

been touted as immune system booster.

On a personal note...I have been extremely sensitive to everything

since my adrenals crashed and the yeast took over my body. Coffee

(decaf) inevitably makes me feel worse everytime I try it. Green tea

has never had a bad effect on this sensitive system of mine and I

drink several cups a day. I think coffee in any form is probably not

a great idea until our immune systems are way back up to par!

[Guest guest]

Hello , I suspect I may have adrenal weakness as well and was

wondering what symptoms are provoked by drinking decaf coffee. I

haven't mentioned any of my symptoms to any doctors.

Thanks,

LOra

> On a personal note...I have been extremely sensitive to everything

> since my adrenals crashed and the yeast took over my body. Coffee

> (decaf) inevitably makes me feel worse everytime I try it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lora,

I went to a coffee plantation in Guatemala and we got a tour from the owner

himself. He explained that swiss water decaf still has anywhere from 10 to

20% caffeine. I know for myself when I have had nothing but green tea in a

while and then have a cup of strong decaf, I feel more hyper and have more

energy. So it's still somewhat of a stimulant which is not good if your

adrenals are weakened already. In essence, our adrenals are there for us in

a fight or flight situation. Have you ever read stories where a woman could

lift a car by herself because her child was crushed under it, etc.? That's

your adrenals kicking in producing adrenalin to give you strength, speed,

etc. That's part of what they do and they are also responsible for producing

hormones like our sex hormones. Caffeine and stress have the same effect on

your adrenals as a situation as I described above does and our adrenals were

never meant to deal with that much stress so they become fatigued/weakenend

and while stimulants work in the short run to give you a boost, they will

wear them out even more in the long run. So from that standpoint you could

say that even decaf is not good for your adrenals. I once worked with a

nutritionist who didn't even want me to have decaf green tea.

The symptoms that could be provoked are getting jittery but then crashing

later.

I hope that answers your question. :-)

Kris

Hello , I suspect I may have adrenal weakness as well and was

wondering what symptoms are provoked by drinking decaf coffee. I

haven't mentioned any of my symptoms to any doctors.

Thanks,

LOra

> On a personal note...I have been extremely sensitive to everything

> since my adrenals crashed and the yeast took over my body. Coffee

> (decaf) inevitably makes me feel worse everytime I try it.

[Guest guest]

> Hello , I suspect I may have adrenal weakness as well and was

> wondering what symptoms are provoked by drinking decaf coffee. I

> haven't mentioned any of my symptoms to any doctors.

> Thanks,

> LOra

>

Hi Lora,

The sx that drinking decaf coffee promotes in me are alot like what

a describes. I definitely feel a greater " rush " from the

caffeine in coffee wiring me up a bit. It's then that I know I'm in

trouble...because on the other side of that rush is the crash. Any

over stimulation of my adrenals - no matter how good it feels at the

time, later results in me feeling fatigued and weak. It is much less

than it used to be, but I still feel it drain my adrenals. It usually

gives me stiffened muscles also, especially in my neck and jaw along

with sore eyes.

Take care Lora,