Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dear ... How long have you been on the program? Looks like our symptoms are just about the same. I haven't started yet, but I look forward to it. I've been putting up with these symptoms (and them getting progressively worse) for my entire 40 years. I did a strict anti- candida diet back in 2001 for about 5 months and lost down to 122 pounds, but quit because I saw no improvment. I'm anxious to see how my body reacts to THIS diet, though. I weigh about 155 right now, but most of that is in my bloated stomach, I think! I know how tough it is, but just keep on doing it. Think of the reward at the end. How old are you? Even if it takes me 3 years, I want to keep doing it JUST TO SEE WHAT LIFE IS MEANT TO BE LIKE living without these horrible symptoms. Consider yourself fortunate not to have developed cancer or some other horrible life-ending disease, as so many others have at a young age. As long as we are breathing, there's still hope, my friend. This is the first program I've seen where people are actually seeing results, so I feel pretty good about it at this point! (We'll see what I'm saying 3 months from now when times get tough!!) Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 > > Hello to all my friends and group members. > > I don't like to sound weak, but I'm just having a hard time again. I'm > feeling very hopeless at the moment -- well, today actually. The haze > of depression, anxiety, fear, and obsessive thoughts is still > surrounding me, constantly. > >> I'm very tired. Tired of feeling broken. > > > Can't help but wonder if I'll ever be able to fix these problems. This > is very hard. > > Regards, > Hi there , First I wanted to ask...are you on any medication? I don't know your background - so I am just asking. Secondly, I will tell you that I had a horrible health crisis (from prescription meds) from which I am still recovering but the bottom line is - time and patience will get you back to health. I lost 20lbs at my worst and could not tolerate any foods besides proteins and fats and a few long chain carbs like millet, buckwheat and oats. It took me a full year but I gained back all 20lbs. I was severely depressed during that time because my life changed sooo much. I was no longer " normal " like you point out. Being around other folks that were doing and eating routine things when I couldn't gave me HUGE anxiety. But now, we hold the key to winning this battle and if we set our sights on the goal and stay focused and keep the faith...we will get there . I have no doubt that this program will restore our health. Stay strong and never give up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hi , I was feeling depressed, anxious and having panic attacks in August. I really hit a wall then and thought I just had hypoglycemia. After going to several doctors (who all said I was fine) and starting a hypoglycemic diet, I went to a natural doctor who diagnosed candida. I have been on nystatin, colonics and Vitamin IV drips plus strict diet for almost 7 weeks now. Just two weeks ago the depression, anxiety started to lift for me. I even started seeing a therapist because I never had suffered from depression or anxiety before and was so freaked out by it. I did not think it was related to my illness but that I was just going crazy. Please remember this will lift and is only temporary. I know how hard it is when you are the 'pit' to think any other way but it will. I just got to the point too where my blood sugar has started to stabilize and I can go without eating for 3-4 hours now. This is huge for me because for months I was having to eat every 2 hours and it did not matter how much good fat I ate I was still starving hungry. I thought it would never end and that also feeds the depression too. I was not working at the time I got sick and could never have held down a job - that is how sick I was too. I was stupid, I cut out everything cold turkey and suffered greatly. I spent the first two weeks catatonic not able to move from the bed. Please hang in there - once on the other side you will be enjoying life again just like everybody else. I too thought I would suffer like this for the rest of my life. You will become a better person because of it. More sympathetic and patient. You will seize life and never take it for granted again. You will really live in moment. Keep venting - it does help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hi , You sent me an encouraging answer the other day and I just want to do the same for you. It was just last week that I was feeling miserable and then things got just a tiny bit better. I know this is hard, but you can do this and you are not alone. Keep at it and things have to get better. Bee's program makes more sense than anything I have seen over the last 5 years. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply to my post. I appreciate the words of encouragement. I am feeling better today and am still 'keepin on' with the program. As one of you pointed out, I have a lot to be thankful for. Sometimes things get rough because some major healing and die-off is occurring. As long as I have been exposed to this explanation for the negative effects that are occurring, it still has been the most challenging thing to keep in perspective while maintaining the program. Thanks again to everyone for their support. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Dear , I'm short on time, but I do want to remind you that your body will detoxify previous drugs, alcohol, and other toxic substances you've taken. When it is doing that, you will experience horrible symptoms, depression, etc. Hang in there my friend. You can do this! Do more to help your body detoxify at this time, and pamper yourself at the same time by taking epsom salt baths. My favorite quote is: " Nevere regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow! " Hugs, Bee > > Hello to all my friends and group members. > > I don't like to sound weak, but I'm just having a hard time again. I'm > feeling very hopeless at the moment -- well, today actually. The haze > of depression, anxiety, fear, and obsessive thoughts is still > surrounding me, constantly. > > I find myself questioning once again how much longer I can endure > this. The abdominal bloating and feeling of tightness just makes me > picture food that has not been fully digested passing through my > system - with the little guys in there just feasting away. It makes me > sick to think about, and brings me to tears more often than not > because there isn't anything I can do to help fix it, other than > maintain on the program. > > My inability to gain any weight is very discouraging. My frail and > thin build, no matter how much fat and good animal products I eat, > just seems to be a sign that I am still not digesting and assimilating > nutrients, fats, and proteins correctly. > > I'm very tired. Tired of feeling broken. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Dear , and all who suffer with depression, I just thought I'd say something on the subject of depression, as I also have been sporadically dogged by it for the last 11 years, although it has significantly lessened since being on Bee's program. It's come over me tonight, which is why I'm better able to speak about how I deal with it. I have ALWAYS found that when I am feeling depressed there is one small activity I can do which will, in the doing of it, alleviate my darkness. It usually is something small that is on my mental list of jobs to do, and just getting up to do it is the first step of my path back to a lighter mood. Washing up, sewing, some computer job...usually something that doesn't involve someone else. I spent parts of the summer painting my kitchen yellow (it was all I could do that didn't make me feel like screaming), but (this'll make you laugh) unfortunately the depression at that time prevented me from putting a second coat on, so one wall looks a bit 'depressed!' And half of another wall is still pink from before! I quite like it, so it has stayed that way, and when I see it, it's a reminder of how much I've improved since then, although depression does still come on sometimes. I also make sure I've taken all my supplements. Then it's just a matter of waiting for it to move on, which demands patience. Oh yes, I pray for it to go, too. I think the praying alerts my mind to the fact that relief has already been provided, in the form of whatever activity. It is then up to me to choose it...or choose to remain in a place of empty negativity. Hope this helps you one day. Nicola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Oooooooo..... Bee... Uh oh. I'm going to be in real trouble when I start detoxing, because when I was young I did a LOT of alcohol, toxic drugs and substances! > > Dear , > I'm short on time, but I do want to remind you that your body will > detoxify previous drugs, alcohol, and other toxic substances you've > taken. When it is doing that, you will experience horrible symptoms, > depression, etc. Hang in there my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 > I don't like to sound weak, Hi , You don't sound weak at all to me. If you're on this program you are both wise, brave and very strong in my opinion! > I'm feeling very hopeless at the moment -The haze > of depression, anxiety, fear, and obsessive thoughts is still > surrounding me, constantly. I am sorry to hear this. I myself had suffered from clinical suicidal depression for 24 years before I got help. Today I still get the odd depressed few days here and there. But during my years of soul-healing, I have learned many tricks to handle these feelings through psychotherapy. What really works for me (may not work for others but it's been a huge life saver for me): 1. Becomming aware that whenever I feel depressed it has it's roots in the " witch- complex " . ie, the negative mother aspect that exists in the psyche. 2. Combatting the inner " witch " by writing in an opposing way. (see below) 3. Knowing that the " witch " cannot see into the future and she needs you to believe her made up stories of a dark future so that you get scared and more likely to listen to her words. (bad cycle) > I find myself questioning once again how much longer I can endure > this. When I get thoughts of doubt, I ask my inner healer if this road is right for me. The answer has been a strong yes. I know that sometimes these questions and questioning come from the witch who wants us to stay sick. > makes me picture food that has not been fully digested passing through my > system - with the little guys in there just feasting away. It makes me > sick to think about, What helps me when I get negative and disturbing thoughts is to think of sea otters or winning a million dollars. > My inability to gain any weight is very discouraging. > I'm very tired. Tired of feeling broken. I know how you feel. I have felt like this a few times during the program and still sometimes do but I try to focus on what has worked rather than the work that remains. In a sense feeling tired in evidence that this program is really working for you. And, Bee said it the best: " take one day at a time " Below would be an example of writing in a way that combats the " witch complex " by writing the exact opposite of whatever she is saying: >Why is it taking so long to boost my immune system? My immune system is healing so fast! > Why is it taking so long to combat Candida? It's amazing how quickly I'm healing from Candida. > Why is my body not responding better > to the incredibly nutrient dense diet that I am providing it with? My body is responding so well to the food I give it. etc.etc. you get the picture. I often feel in the beginning that the words I write are not true and they feel dishonest and excaggerated. But after a short or long time of doing this exersice I always come out on the other side, free from anxiety and depression, and instead happy and fantasizing about thoese cute otters or planning what to do with all my millions that I've won? lol. I know that the ultimate goal is to not even entertain these negative thoughts and to not go into discussion with them or believe them. But I'm not that advanced yet. lol. So this is what's worked for me. >I see those around me who eat what they want and do what they please with > candy, normal standard american diet foods, and they are happy, I know, I get really jelous of healthy people too sometimes. But we don't really know how they feel. Often we only " see " what we think they have, not what they actually have. > Can't help but wonder if I'll ever be able to fix these problems. Just to let you know: the witch loves to use words such as " always, never, everyone...etc " So that's a good way of knowing when it's time to sit down and start writing. lol. Hope if nothing else that you see that you're not alone in this struggle. So many of us fight inner complexes on a daily basis. It's all about hanging in there and continue trying! No wonder the witch hates this program since it has such healing potential. When we are well, who will listen to her anymore? lol. I think that's why so many of us on the list experience depression as a healing symptom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 hi lisa, interesting idea, but who is the witch mother? never heard of that before, lv joe [ ] Re: Just Low > I don't like to sound weak, Hi , You don't sound weak at all to me. If you're on this program you are both wise, brave and very strong in my opinion! > I'm feeling very hopeless at the moment -The haze > of depression, anxiety, fear, and obsessive thoughts is still > surrounding me, constantly. I am sorry to hear this. I myself had suffered from clinical suicidal depression for 24 years before I got help. Today I still get the odd depressed few days here and there. But during my years of soul-healing, I have learned many tricks to handle these feelings through psychotherapy. What really works for me (may not work for others but it's been a huge life saver for me): 1. Becomming aware that whenever I feel depressed it has it's roots in the " witch- complex " . ie, the negative mother aspect that exists in the psyche. 2. Combatting the inner " witch " by writing in an opposing way. (see below) 3. Knowing that the " witch " cannot see into the future and she needs you to believe her made up stories of a dark future so that you get scared and more likely to listen to her words. (bad cycle) > I find myself questioning once again how much longer I can endure > this. When I get thoughts of doubt, I ask my inner healer if this road is right for me. The answer has been a strong yes. I know that sometimes these questions and questioning come from the witch who wants us to stay sick. > makes me picture food that has not been fully digested passing through my > system - with the little guys in there just feasting away. It makes me > sick to think about, What helps me when I get negative and disturbing thoughts is to think of sea otters or winning a million dollars. > My inability to gain any weight is very discouraging. > I'm very tired. Tired of feeling broken. I know how you feel. I have felt like this a few times during the program and still sometimes do but I try to focus on what has worked rather than the work that remains. In a sense feeling tired in evidence that this program is really working for you. And, Bee said it the best: " take one day at a time " Below would be an example of writing in a way that combats the " witch complex " by writing the exact opposite of whatever she is saying: >Why is it taking so long to boost my immune system? My immune system is healing so fast! > Why is it taking so long to combat Candida? It's amazing how quickly I'm healing from Candida. > Why is my body not responding better > to the incredibly nutrient dense diet that I am providing it with? My body is responding so well to the food I give it. etc.etc. you get the picture. I often feel in the beginning that the words I write are not true and they feel dishonest and excaggerated. But after a short or long time of doing this exersice I always come out on the other side, free from anxiety and depression, and instead happy and fantasizing about thoese cute otters or planning what to do with all my millions that I've won? lol. I know that the ultimate goal is to not even entertain these negative thoughts and to not go into discussion with them or believe them. But I'm not that advanced yet. lol. So this is what's worked for me. >I see those around me who eat what they want and do what they please with > candy, normal standard american diet foods, and they are happy, I know, I get really jelous of healthy people too sometimes. But we don't really know how they feel. Often we only " see " what we think they have, not what they actually have. > Can't help but wonder if I'll ever be able to fix these problems. Just to let you know: the witch loves to use words such as " always, never, everyone...etc " So that's a good way of knowing when it's time to sit down and start writing. lol. Hope if nothing else that you see that you're not alone in this struggle. So many of us fight inner complexes on a daily basis. It's all about hanging in there and continue trying! No wonder the witch hates this program since it has such healing potential. When we are well, who will listen to her anymore? lol. I think that's why so many of us on the list experience depression as a healing symptom. ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/environment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 > > Oooooooo..... Bee... Uh oh. I'm going to be in real trouble when I > start detoxing, because when I was young I did a LOT of alcohol, toxic drugs and substances! ==>Just think how much healthier you'll be after they are detoxed out of your body! Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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