Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 > > yes bee your doing a good job with all your knowledge people are > always going to put u down not u but people in general down when they > help others and find cures or i notice some holisitc doctors dont > want to go to the root of the problem cuz they just want your money or > they have no clue ... whey bothered me b4 i joined ur group it was a > fad to have whey protien shakes when u have yeast ,this made me worse > take care Lilly, thanks so much. I'm glad to hear you tried the whey and that you didn't do well on it. So I'm right after all, eh? Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Bee, before I really understood what was going on in my body--I would use whey protein prior to working out----not only did I FEEL horrible, I also looked so bad people would ask me if I was okay. I have no reason to experiment with that. Your plan works, Bee.....in my opinion, if it is not broke, don't fix it!!!! This is good. Thanks again.....Debra __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 hi bee why are we not allowed whey? does it contain lactose? or is it just difficult to digest? may be a stupid question, but i never suspected whey would be a problem, i used to use it in home made mayonnaise and lemonade thanx joe Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hey Joe, before I started on Bee's program, I used to have whey shakes with coconut oil and fresh made almond milk nearly every day for breakfast. I could never understand why I would get so tired and sleepy from having that shake every morning. If I wanted to get anything done that morning, I would have to do it before I drank the shake because afterwards, I would immediately (within 30 mins) need a 2-hour nap. Since having Bee's egg drink in the mornings, I am not tired. I honestly believe that my body just cannot digest the whey. I think the lactose in it was feeding the candida and I have noticed that anything that feeds the candida too much, in me, makes me tired and all I want to do is sleep. Hope this helps some. with Metta, ~Lori~ > > hi bee > > why are we not allowed whey? does it contain lactose? or is it just difficult to digest? may be a stupid question, but i never suspected whey would be a problem, i used to use it in home made mayonnaise and lemonade thanx joe > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 --- In , joanne finigan <joanne_finigan@...> > > why are we not allowed whey? Hi Jo. There has been lots of recent discussion on this topic. You can search the message archives to read more. Bee put an article in the files about whey. See the Candida Shopping List file for an article entitled " Whey Protein Isolate Powder Not Recommended " jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 hi i didnt mean whey protein powder, just the by product of cheese making, natural whey jo jahlstrom78 <jahlstrom@...> wrote: --- In , joanne finigan <joanne_finigan@...> > > why are we not allowed whey? Hi Jo. There has been lots of recent discussion on this topic. You can search the message archives to read more. Bee put an article in the files about whey. See the Candida Shopping List file for an article entitled " Whey Protein Isolate Powder Not Recommended " jackie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 > > Bee, > before I really understood what was going on in my body--I would use whey protein prior to working out----not only did I FEEL horrible, I also looked so bad people would ask me if I was okay. I have no reason to experiment with that. Your plan works, Bee.....in my opinion, if it is not broke, don't fix it!!!! This is good. > Thanks again..... Debra, thanks for letting me know you tried the whey protein. It confirms what I believe, that dairy, other than butter, are not good for candida sufferers. My plan does work quite well for sure! Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 > > hi bee; why are we not allowed whey? does it contain lactose? or is it just difficult to digest? may be a stupid question, but i never suspected whey would be a problem, i used to use it in home made mayonnaise and lemonade thanx ==>joe, this subject has been discussed many times on this group. Please do a search of the archives to review them and look for messages I have written. Real whey is not a problem for healthy people but it does caused problems for candida. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 > > hi > i didnt mean whey protein powder, just the by product of cheese making, natural whey ==>Hi Jo. That's because it is dairy and it contains lactose (sugar) which feeds candida; see the Probiotics section of my main article for more information about why dairy is bad for candida sufferers. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 From what I gather that makes a big difference, by products and extraction with heat damages the protein. I think the best one is immunepro, its undenatured specially filtered etc. Same concept as pasturisation/unpasturised. I think you can get some lactose free also but not 100% on that Phil > --- In , joanne finigan > <joanne_finigan@> > > > > why are we not allowed whey? > > Hi Jo. > > There has been lots of recent discussion on this topic. You can search > the message archives to read more. Bee put an article in the files > about whey. See the Candida Shopping List file for an article entitled > " Whey Protein Isolate Powder Not Recommended " > > jackie > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 > > From what I gather that makes a big difference, by products and > extraction with heat damages the protein. I think the best one is > immunepro, its undenatured specially filtered etc. Same concept as > pasturisation/unpasturised. I think you can get some lactose free > also but not 100% on that. > Phil, whey is not recommended for candida at all, but those who feel the need to have it should make the " real thing " right from milk - there's a recipe in our Recipe Folder. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 , in a lot of the tests that used very good whey isolate the dose was 3-4 10-gram pouches. Some CFIDS people who use that kind of dose report being " slammed " which may indicate a Herxheimer-Jarish reaction or a jump out of homeostasis. Because whey is a great metabolic enhancer, body builder and toner, and has several other valuable properties to take advantage of, it makes sense to some people to use a much cheaper undenatured whey that is about 3/4 as potent yet only about 1/8 of the price of say Immunocal for example. Duncan > > > Hi, > > For those who are using whey regularly, how much are you having per > day? I have a flavorless product made by Cyto-Matrix, that comes in > pouches. I've been taking one a day so far. Will it cause a herx > reaction? > > http://www.cyto-matrix.com/p_provitalex.php > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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