Re: Adrenal connection

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Hi Kim

Good to hear from you - glad you are feeling good just now! Well I am in

a dilemma as this endo was very thorough and certainly did explain everything

to me - he also gave me all my blood results which I will add on the end

here and see what you make of them. this is the first time I have seen these

so a breakthrough for me.

He is not saying I have s, just that he would like to test for it

as I am showing signs of it - he looked at my pigmentation etc and the bp

thing. He seemed concerned about this and has put me on steroids right away

and says I will have a day in hospital having the testing done for addisons

within the month. He did say he was putting me on the steroids because unless

this adrenal problem is corrected (whether addisons or not) then the treatment

for the hyperhyroidism won't be effective and I won't achieve remission.

I was only taking one 5mg carbimazole a day (had got it down to that) along

with one thyroxine (25mg) but he has upped my carbimazole to 40mg a day and

upped thyroxine to 100mg a day as well as taking the steroids 20mg a day.

Seems like I am taking a whole load of stuff!

when I queried taking all this as I had been hoping to lower the carbimazole

and finally wean off it in the hope I would achieve remission he said that

unless I gave thyroid a complete rest I would not achieve this. He said that

my doing this I would have more chance of achieving remission. so his plan

is to keep me on this level for two years and then take me off the meds and

see if I go into remission. If I don't go into remission then he will give

me RAI. At this point I didn't mention how against RAI I feel at the moment.

He did say that he would rather try the block and replace first before RAI

and that at the moment I was not a candidate for it because of my swollen

eyes. He also told me it would be 18 months to two years before the swelling

in my eyes would be gone (sigh!).

So thats where I am at the moment - strictly speaking I am slightly hypo

at the moment. He was not at all concerned about the irregular heart beat

I have so often when I mentioned it so guess thats nothing to worry about.

I have this a few times a day an am very aware of it.

Anyway - here are my blood results : (at last!)

11th January 2006 Free T4 was 19.4, Free T3 was 9.9, TSH was <0.10

10th February 2006 Free T4 was 18.2, Free T3 was 7.8, TSH was <0.10

24th March 2006 Free T4 was 22.5, free T3 was 9.0, TSH was <0.10

At this point felt very hyper - was put on 30mg Carbimazole 12th may

10th May 2006 Free T4 was 29.2, Free T3 was 11.1, TSH was <010

Felt very bad end May, shaky

8th June 2006 Free T4 was 9.7, Free T3 was 4.2, TSH was <0.10

Felt so much calmer but very very tired, reduced carbimazole to 20mg, tired

sluggish and gaining weight fast. Last week of June reduced carbimazole to

15mg as feel so bad

12th July 2006 Free T4 was 5.6, Free T3 was - , TSH was 38.64

Started off in July feeling good, reduced carbimazole again, felt like I

wanted to die! so Dr put me on 25mg thyroxine

16th August 2006 Free T4 was 10.5, Free T3 was -, TSH was 5.99

Feeling so much better, most normal in a while tho eyes puffy and heart doing

its fluttery thing every day.

7th September 2006 Saw endo and he took blood tests - no results yet. Suspects

I have s disease. Put me on 40mg carbimazole, 100mg thyroxine and

steroids for adrenals.

So, does any of that make any sense to you Kim? (or anyone else reading)

Grace

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Grace,

In my humble, short thyroid experience, I think your dr had you on too high of

an ATD dose. That is what caused your high TSH and subsequent hypo feelings.

My guess is that if you continue following this drs plan then in approx two

years you will be taking RAI. Because by then you will be so fed up with

feeling bad that you will try " anything " in a feeble attempt to feel better.

Think about it. If you are somewhat stable on drugs. Then all drugs are

removed...what do you really think will happen? My first instinct screams that

it won't be fun to experience the upheaval. (Most drugs need to be weaned down.

Not stopped cold turkey.)

In this case I am going to strongly suggest you check out the group at

mediboard.com. There are several there that have been at the whole ATD trip,

including B & R, alot longer than I have even been around " thyroid land " . Plus

there are several there from the UK that have a better understanding of your

national health care system. I really think you could benefit from the

knowledge available at mediboard. Please check it out.

Kim

Re: Re: Adrenal connection

Hi Kim

Good to hear from you - glad you are feeling good just now! Well I am in

a dilemma as this endo was very thorough and certainly did explain everything

to me - he also gave me all my blood results which I will add on the end

here and see what you make of them. this is the first time I have seen these

so a breakthrough for me.

He is not saying I have s, just that he would like to test for it

as I am showing signs of it - he looked at my pigmentation etc and the bp

thing. He seemed concerned about this and has put me on steroids right away

and says I will have a day in hospital having the testing done for addisons

within the month. He did say he was putting me on the steroids because unless

this adrenal problem is corrected (whether addisons or not) then the treatment

for the hyperhyroidism won't be effective and I won't achieve remission.

I was only taking one 5mg carbimazole a day (had got it down to that) along

with one thyroxine (25mg) but he has upped my carbimazole to 40mg a day and

upped thyroxine to 100mg a day as well as taking the steroids 20mg a day.

Seems like I am taking a whole load of stuff!

when I queried taking all this as I had been hoping to lower the carbimazole

and finally wean off it in the hope I would achieve remission he said that

unless I gave thyroid a complete rest I would not achieve this. He said that

my doing this I would have more chance of achieving remission. so his plan

is to keep me on this level for two years and then take me off the meds and

see if I go into remission. If I don't go into remission then he will give

me RAI. At this point I didn't mention how against RAI I feel at the moment.

He did say that he would rather try the block and replace first before RAI

and that at the moment I was not a candidate for it because of my swollen

eyes. He also told me it would be 18 months to two years before the swelling

in my eyes would be gone (sigh!).

So thats where I am at the moment - strictly speaking I am slightly hypo

at the moment. He was not at all concerned about the irregular heart beat

I have so often when I mentioned it so guess thats nothing to worry about.

I have this a few times a day an am very aware of it.

Anyway - here are my blood results : (at last!)

11th January 2006 Free T4 was 19.4, Free T3 was 9.9, TSH was <0.10

10th February 2006 Free T4 was 18.2, Free T3 was 7.8, TSH was <0.10

24th March 2006 Free T4 was 22.5, free T3 was 9.0, TSH was <0.10

At this point felt very hyper - was put on 30mg Carbimazole 12th may

10th May 2006 Free T4 was 29.2, Free T3 was 11.1, TSH was <010

Felt very bad end May, shaky

8th June 2006 Free T4 was 9.7, Free T3 was 4.2, TSH was <0.10

Felt so much calmer but very very tired, reduced carbimazole to 20mg, tired

sluggish and gaining weight fast. Last week of June reduced carbimazole to

15mg as feel so bad

12th July 2006 Free T4 was 5.6, Free T3 was - , TSH was 38.64

Started off in July feeling good, reduced carbimazole again, felt like I

wanted to die! so Dr put me on 25mg thyroxine

16th August 2006 Free T4 was 10.5, Free T3 was -, TSH was 5.99

Feeling so much better, most normal in a while tho eyes puffy and heart doing

its fluttery thing every day.

7th September 2006 Saw endo and he took blood tests - no results yet. Suspects

I have s disease. Put me on 40mg carbimazole, 100mg thyroxine and

steroids for adrenals.

So, does any of that make any sense to you Kim? (or anyone else reading)

Grace

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>

> What are your thoughts on adrenal function and candida?

Hi ,

There is definitely a connection between candida and adrenal

malfunction. Go to Bee's website www.healingnaturallybybee.com and

type " adrenal " into the site search and you'll get links to a couple

of good articles on her site.

jackie

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Hi ,

All candida sufferers have adrenal malfunction. See these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_7_1.php

That's why I recommend 1 1/2 teaspoons of ocean sea salt per day

because it is so important for the adrenals. Also lemons in the

electrolyte drink, dry skin brushing and coffee enemas are to help the

adrenals and the liver detoxify.

Bee

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I hope this is ok to post. I wanted to recommend a book on adrenal

health. I have been reading it. I can see that a lot of my symptoms

are linked to exhausted adrenals. But the book mentions that sometimes

our adrenals are affected by many different stresses. Including

injuries, car accidents, relationship problems,jobs,chronic infections

ie. candida. Which I can see that is the case for me. Anyway I would

not recommend the dietary suggestions ( Bee's diet is quite superior to

any other). But there are some other things in the book that would help

with supporting adrenals and helping to handle stress better. I think

with most here our main stress is a body trying to cope and keep going

with candida overgrowth. But the accumulation of other stresses

combine to make us feel even worse. Anyway the book is Adrenal Fatigue

The 21st century stress syndrome. By L.

P.S. Bee, I am frequently amazed at how your research and approach to

health are so right on the money. I wish I had known all this years

ago. Thanks for all the hard work.

Donna in Indy

>

> Bee sorry if this is on your site and I missed reading it. I got so

> wrapped up in your site I was on it for afew hours its really good.

>

> What are your thoughts on adrenal function and candida? I personally

> feel that poor care of my body over the past few years wore out my

> immunity allowing Candida to go crazy. I also was cranking out to

much

> cortisol and DHEA - causing what I feel an androgen problem as well.

I

> wonder if you feel that Candida can cause adrenal fatique or other

> adrenal issues?

>

> Thanks so much

>

>

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Thanks so much Donna. I have studied a lot! LOL!

The best to you my friend.

Bee

>

>

> I hope this is ok to post. I wanted to recommend a book on adrenal

> health. I have been reading it. I can see that a lot of my symptoms

> are linked to exhausted adrenals. <snip> Anyway the book is Adrenal

Fatigue The 21st century stress syndrome. By L.

> P.S. Bee, I am frequently amazed at how your research and approach to

health are so right on the money. I wish I had known all this years

ago. Thanks for all the hard work.

> Donna in Indy

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bee I went back to your site and read.. tremendous info thank

you. I know my whole metabolic and endocrine system are off... I am

going to try very very hard to fix myself.. I know this is the right

direction. Im cranking out high androgens from my adrenals, my

eyebrows and lashes are thinning and falling out along with my body

hair and scalp hair, and its not AA its a diffuse loss and the only

thing I can find is adrenals and thyroid do this.. and I know I have

Candida so its the only thing that makes sense.

xoxo thank you so much for your input and your web site.

>

> Hi ,

> All candida sufferers have adrenal malfunction. See these articles:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_7_1.php

>

> That's why I recommend 1 1/2 teaspoons of ocean sea salt per day

> because it is so important for the adrenals. Also lemons in the

> electrolyte drink, dry skin brushing and coffee enemas are to help

the

> adrenals and the liver detoxify.

>

> Bee

>

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, you are so very welcome for the help. You cannot go wrong

going back to Mother nature and the foods we were intended to eat.

I wish you the best, Bee

>

> Thank you Bee I went back to your site and read.. tremendous info

thank

> you. I know my whole metabolic and endocrine system are off... I

am

> going to try very very hard to fix myself.. I know this is the

right

> direction. Im cranking out high androgens from my adrenals, my

> eyebrows and lashes are thinning and falling out along with my

body

> hair and scalp hair, and its not AA its a diffuse loss and the

only

> thing I can find is adrenals and thyroid do this.. and I know I

have

> Candida so its the only thing that makes sense.

>

> xoxo thank you so much for your input and your web site.