hair color

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am 35. I have dyed my hair probably more than 6 years. I have no idea if

and how much gray I have now. I used to be blonde/brown hair now I'm a

red-head. I do see some white strands in the temple areas and it the roots

of my hair when my hair is growing out then thats the time I know its time to

color my hair!!!! I gotta stay looking young!!!

Kozy

[Guest guest]

You ladys seem very concerned about the hair. I'm a man that had a thin spot

on his head before treatment , after treatment I was a man with a bald spot.

The bald spot started f illing back in very qwickly , it's not a big thing

don't sweat the little stuff.

Tom

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/11/02 3:55:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

MarilynWilkinson@... writes:

> Also, the new hair probably has some of the medication already in it, which

> could have a chemical reaction with the chemicals in the hair color.

I will have to check on that. I did call the In Charge nurse and she told me

there is no adverse internal reaction to hair dyes or perms. She said the

meds cause dehydration which can make the hair brittle. Adding chemicals can

make the dryness and brittleness worse, causing more hair to break off.

So I guess one just has to decide if their hair can take it or not.

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

I asked my daugher in law, who is a hair stylist, about this. She said that the

hair that is already grown out is dead, but the new hair that is growing in

could be weakened by the medication while it is still in the follicle. Also,

the new hair probably has some of the medication already in it, which could have

a chemical reaction with the chemicals in the hair color. She suggested waiting

until there is enough root grown out to see the real color, and then having your

hair foiled or colorwoven, *only* on the old growth to blend it in better with

the roots.

She said that while she can see why anyone would want to feel as good about

themselves as they could during treatment, you wouldn't want to see your hair

break off at the roots by putting more chemicals on it. She said she has had

some clients who are on other medications, and the color that she puts on the

hair is not the color it turns out - one lady had green roots when she was done,

yikes!

Marilyn

Re: Hair color (was Re: finally got my

biopsy)

In a message dated 12/11/02 5:43:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

giglebutt2002@... writes:

> I was told by my nurse that the hair may fall out faster if it is

> chemically treated I just wonder though.........

Oh is that all............LOL. It seems to me that the dye is put on the

dead part of the hair, not sure how much if any real penetration into the

follicles and skin there is. My stylist has a lot of chemical experience and

I will ask her tomorrow what she knows. (I know, she is not a doctor, but

she understands how health effects the hair).

I have read that the combo treatment can make our hair brittle, and I know

from experience that perms can dry my hair. But the semi-perm color she uses

has a neat conditioner in it which actually makes my hair softer.

Tax season is when I see most of my clients, I would hate to think I would

have to see them looking so old and gray LOL! But I guess we do what we

gotta do.

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Oh, Tom, I'm so glad you got your hair back. We ladies wish we could be so

accepted whether we have hair or not, whether we are large bodied or small,

that's just not how society judges us.

Marilyn

Re: Re: Hair color

You ladys seem very concerned about the hair. I'm a man that had a thin spot

on his head before treatment , after treatment I was a man with a bald spot.

The bald spot started f illing back in very qwickly , it's not a big thing

don't sweat the little stuff.

Tom

[Guest guest]

Dear Kathleen,

Hope this finds you in better spirits! I think what Donna was referring to

when she asked if you were a natural redhead was a study that came out

recently stating natural redheads need to receive more anesthetic than

blondes or brunettes to be put completely under!

Is your neck feeling any better? I hope so!

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I'm a few days late on this subject but oh well......

My guess is that your colleague who had cancer was well intentioned - in fact, my not have paid much attention to your hair at all. She may just as well thought it was something that would have made her feel better so maybe it would you. We all get a lot of well intentioned "help" that felt like a slam but that probably wasn't the intention. In fact, I would guess that most of us have said things with only kindness in mind that have hurt the person - emotions are difficult to control.

Don't feel bad about your hurt feelings - I call that hunker down time, time to close in a bit until I recuperate. Assume the best about the gift and return it as suggested just saying you can't use the chemical until you check. And then see where it goes.

Good luck,

Amy

PS I think I'll just let the gray come in but my mind may change later

[Guest guest]

Possibly because the dark-haired genes are dominant and pigment develops

slowly in hair.

In eyes, the brown pigment layer forms pretty quickly (in those genetically

programmed to be brown-eyed) and skin can get tanned in a couple of days.

But hair tends to gets darker slowly and reach its maximum darkness in

adulthood.

Yet, one is still primarily a blonde or a brunette in overall pigmentation.

- Those who are true blondes/original Nordic type usually have paler skin

(not as pale as redheads but almost = type 2); greyblue or greygreenblue

eyes; short, thin and pale lashes and eyebrows and a general wishywashyness

in looks. These characteristics remain even if the hair turns fairly dark

(usually dark blond or ashy brown). They also tend to have VERY pale blond

hair as children, almost white.

- The blue-eyed brunette type usually have a warmer skin tone (due to more

pigment = type 3), grey-blue, bright blue, turquoise-blue or green eyes;

thick, dark eyelashes; marked dark brows, and somewhat sharper features, but

not as sharp as he Latin type. Most have light-brown hair as children. If

they are blond, the blondness is not as pale but more like light

golden-brown.

- Latin, Asian and African brunettes tend to have even more pigment right

from the start and are rarely blond as children.

Exceptions to these general rules always exist.

It is also possible that air pollution contributes to making blond hair

darker.

Also, because dark-haired genes are dominant, this means that the more we

all mix, the less blondes there will be since you need blond genes from both

parents to turn out blond.

Inger - an endangered species :-)

Re: Hair color (was: Are We Really Capable of

Meaningful Relationships?)

I wonder why people with both genes start off blonde and go brown

instead of the other way around? It's the same with people who have

mostly African genes with some European thrown in--they start off

lighter and get darker with age.

>

> I repeat: changing hair color is NOT an Aspie trait.

>

> It is simply a perfectly natural phenomenon in those who have mixed dark

> and blond genes. And that is most common in people of North European

> descent. Nothing mystical about this whatsoever.

>

> Inger

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I repeat: changing hair color is NOT an Aspie trait.

> >

> > It is simply a perfectly natural phenomenon in those who have

mixed dark

> > and blond genes. And that is most common in people of North

European

> > descent. Nothing mystical about this whatsoever.

> >

> > Inger

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>> " Inger - an endangered species :-) "

:

> Yes, but are you an endangered species in Sweden? Or is it a

stereotype that people are mostly blonde there? One of my sisters

always gets confused as being Swedish (she got the German & Norweigan

genes, I guess, though she dies her hair blonde). I notice that

Norweigans are mostly brown-headed so I wondered if that was because

the Vikings brought back foreign women in their conquests.

Though fairer than most in the rest of the world, true blondes are not that

common here anymore. I think you are correct about the Vikings and we have

had a constant influx of darker Europeans during the last millennium, due to

Sweden being the center of Scandinavia and a super-power in the 17th

centruy. This influx of dark-haird people had been increasing exponentially

over the last few decades due to imported labor and accepting refugees from

even farther south. Every 5th person here is of direct foreign descent and

many more if you count those who came here several centuries ago.

Really fair natural blonds are more common in Iceland, Norway, Finland and

Estonia.

Inger

P.S. now I'm coming down with a cold or something so I may not be

participating much again for a few days.

[Guest guest]

Hi Edie, while this may happen for some people, I certainly did not

get my grey hair to go dark again...the same is true for my partner...

we both have been drinking 3 wine glasses full of kombucha daily with

much pleasure for about 1 1/2 years. Maybe the greying has been slowed

down, who knows...regardless, we love our KT.

Do

>

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

>

> Thanks

>

> Edie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Edie, while this may happen for some people, I certainly did not

get my grey hair to go dark again...the same is true for my partner...

we both have been drinking 3 wine glasses full of kombucha daily with

much pleasure for about 1 1/2 years. Maybe the greying has been slowed

down, who knows...regardless, we love our KT.

Do

>

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

>

> Thanks

>

> Edie

>

[Guest guest]

Its not a dramatic change, but yes my hair is a wee bit darker than it was

and I drink quite a lot of KT daily

1-2 liters most days.

zoe

> Hello,

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

> Thanks

> Edie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Its not a dramatic change, but yes my hair is a wee bit darker than it was

and I drink quite a lot of KT daily

1-2 liters most days.

zoe

> Hello,

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

> Thanks

> Edie

>

>

[Guest guest]

My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.

Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha it's

(eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places.

My hair is long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom

and the top half is black.

I'm trying to just let it be, but I'm not particularly pleased about it.

It wasn't black in the first place.

What's THAT about?

Silani

On Sep 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Edie Wicker wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

[Guest guest]

My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.

Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha it's

(eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places.

My hair is long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom

and the top half is black.

I'm trying to just let it be, but I'm not particularly pleased about it.

It wasn't black in the first place.

What's THAT about?

Silani

On Sep 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Edie Wicker wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

[Guest guest]

I also want to add that after we had been drinking KT and Kefir for

awhile, we experienced a lot of hair falling out, then a LOT of re-

growth. Not just me, my husband too, but his hair is mostly black

already, so it's hard to tell if any white has ben replaced. I'm

wondering if anyone else has experienced hairs falling out then tons

of new, short hairs coming in along with faster hair growth all around.

[Guest guest]

I also want to add that after we had been drinking KT and Kefir for

awhile, we experienced a lot of hair falling out, then a LOT of re-

growth. Not just me, my husband too, but his hair is mostly black

already, so it's hard to tell if any white has ben replaced. I'm

wondering if anyone else has experienced hairs falling out then tons

of new, short hairs coming in along with faster hair growth all around.

[Guest guest]

Dear Silani,

My understanding is that it is a lack of minerals (copper?) that causes

hair to lose

color. Give it time and you will know what to do about your hair

color....Henna maybe to hold you over through this change? I'll bet it is

pretty the way it is coming in though. Anyway...it sounds to my like you are

getting healthier by the day!

I do know this...I really enjoy your creativity and the way you share it in

these postsl

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.

Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha it's

(eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places.

My hair is long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom

and the top half is black.

I'm trying to just let it be, but I'm not particularly pleased about it.

It wasn't black in the first place.

What's THAT about?

Silani

On Sep 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Edie Wicker wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

Oh God, your sea is so great, and my boat is so small. JFK

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[Guest guest]

Dear Silani,

My understanding is that it is a lack of minerals (copper?) that causes

hair to lose

color. Give it time and you will know what to do about your hair

color....Henna maybe to hold you over through this change? I'll bet it is

pretty the way it is coming in though. Anyway...it sounds to my like you are

getting healthier by the day!

I do know this...I really enjoy your creativity and the way you share it in

these postsl

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.

Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha it's

(eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places.

My hair is long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom

and the top half is black.

I'm trying to just let it be, but I'm not particularly pleased about it.

It wasn't black in the first place.

What's THAT about?

Silani

On Sep 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Edie Wicker wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me if they have experienced their grey hair growing

> back their natural color after drinking kombucha for awhile?

>

> I read in a Kombucha book that this would happen...

Oh God, your sea is so great, and my boat is so small. JFK

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[Guest guest]

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

*My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha

it's eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places. My hair is

long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom and the top

half is black.

What's THAT about?

Silani*

Silani, I got a mental image of Cruella DeVille!

But it is true about the copper thing, at least for goats. When I first

got my dairy kids, a friend who knows a LOT about most animals, except

goats, told me to get sheep and goat minerals and feed for them. Turns

out, sheep can't have extra copper, and goats dont' do well w/o it. I

ended up having goats that got sick and loaded with parasites and

started losing their hair. Did my researcg and started doing their

nutrition and mineral needs as I was supposed to.

As per Pat Colby who wrote " Natural Goat Care " , not only has their

health been PERFECT, their hair grew in luxuriantly, and they all got a

lot darker!!! I have goats that goat a mantle of black in a martingale

pattern on them, goats who got black stripes in their faces and tails,

brown goats that turned black and black goats that got blacker!

So perhaps your body is receiving minerals in the correct form and

having the ability to utilize them as it should? Very encouraging!

Blessings, Jill!

[Guest guest]

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

*My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha

it's eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places. My hair is

long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom and the top

half is black.

What's THAT about?

Silani*

Silani, I got a mental image of Cruella DeVille!

But it is true about the copper thing, at least for goats. When I first

got my dairy kids, a friend who knows a LOT about most animals, except

goats, told me to get sheep and goat minerals and feed for them. Turns

out, sheep can't have extra copper, and goats dont' do well w/o it. I

ended up having goats that got sick and loaded with parasites and

started losing their hair. Did my researcg and started doing their

nutrition and mineral needs as I was supposed to.

As per Pat Colby who wrote " Natural Goat Care " , not only has their

health been PERFECT, their hair grew in luxuriantly, and they all got a

lot darker!!! I have goats that goat a mantle of black in a martingale

pattern on them, goats who got black stripes in their faces and tails,

brown goats that turned black and black goats that got blacker!

So perhaps your body is receiving minerals in the correct form and

having the ability to utilize them as it should? Very encouraging!

Blessings, Jill!

[Guest guest]

hi Bill,

can u send me the research u did and wat r all the steps u did for the

research.

thanks,

john

lillisilly <evangelnet@...> wrote:

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

*My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha

it's eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places. My hair is

long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom and the top

half is black.

What's THAT about?

Silani*

Silani, I got a mental image of Cruella DeVille!

But it is true about the copper thing, at least for goats. When I first

got my dairy kids, a friend who knows a LOT about most animals, except

goats, told me to get sheep and goat minerals and feed for them. Turns

out, sheep can't have extra copper, and goats dont' do well w/o it. I

ended up having goats that got sick and loaded with parasites and

started losing their hair. Did my researcg and started doing their

nutrition and mineral needs as I was supposed to.

As per Pat Colby who wrote " Natural Goat Care " , not only has their

health been PERFECT, their hair grew in luxuriantly, and they all got a

lot darker!!! I have goats that goat a mantle of black in a martingale

pattern on them, goats who got black stripes in their faces and tails,

brown goats that turned black and black goats that got blacker!

So perhaps your body is receiving minerals in the correct form and

having the ability to utilize them as it should? Very encouraging!

Blessings, Jill!

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[Guest guest]

hi Bill,

can u send me the research u did and wat r all the steps u did for the

research.

thanks,

john

lillisilly <evangelnet@...> wrote:

Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote:

*My hair went " platinum " (silver white) when I was quite young and

I've always loved it.Now, after just a few months of kefir and kombucha

it's eeeeeeeeeeek!) growing in black hair in some places. My hair is

long, and I've noticed some hairs are white on the bottom and the top

half is black.

What's THAT about?

Silani*

Silani, I got a mental image of Cruella DeVille!

But it is true about the copper thing, at least for goats. When I first

got my dairy kids, a friend who knows a LOT about most animals, except

goats, told me to get sheep and goat minerals and feed for them. Turns

out, sheep can't have extra copper, and goats dont' do well w/o it. I

ended up having goats that got sick and loaded with parasites and

started losing their hair. Did my researcg and started doing their

nutrition and mineral needs as I was supposed to.

As per Pat Colby who wrote " Natural Goat Care " , not only has their

health been PERFECT, their hair grew in luxuriantly, and they all got a

lot darker!!! I have goats that goat a mantle of black in a martingale

pattern on them, goats who got black stripes in their faces and tails,

brown goats that turned black and black goats that got blacker!

So perhaps your body is receiving minerals in the correct form and

having the ability to utilize them as it should? Very encouraging!

Blessings, Jill!

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[Guest guest]

>

> hi Bill,

> can u send me the research u did and wat r all the steps u did for

the research.

> thanks,

> john

I recommend Pat Colby's book, " Natural Goat Care " . You can

google " Goats + copper " if you want to find what I found. I did this

two years ago, gleaned and mentally retained the info I needed and

used, and do not remember the sites and other materials I read at the

time. I hope that helps. Pat Colby stated and referenced research that

indicated that dark haired goats as well as dark haired people, have a

higher requirement for dietary copper than fair-haired people (or

goats).

Jill!