Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 >From: " healthnutwannab " <healthnutwannab@...> >However, I still cannot seem to get to bed >before 2 or 3 am. This is also messing up my eating schedule as I am >having breakfast at lunch time, lunch at dinner time and then eating >again around 9 or 10 pm. Anyone have some suggestions as to how I >can get off of this vicious cycle? > >with Metta, >~Lori~ Bite the bullet Lori, set your alarm for 10am every morning for a week, get out of bed when it goes off and don't take a nap during the day. Then the next week set your alarm for 9am etc.... Eventually you will be able to fall asleep earlier and get up earlier. Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 > Bite the bullet Lori, set your alarm for 10am every morning for a week, get > out of bed when it goes off and don't take a nap during the day. Then the > next week set your alarm for 9am etc.... Eventually you will be able to fall > asleep earlier and get up earlier. > > Shirley > I am desperately trying not to sense negativity from your reply, Shirley. The " bite the bullet " remark leaves a sour taste in my mouth though, as though you are assuming that this is something so simple that I should just suck up and do it. Wish it were that easy. Also, the naps are not something I want to do, but something that is forced on me due to the CFS. I will just fall asleep where ever I am if I do not go lay down. But thanks anyway, Shirley, I will make an attempt to do this. I normally do not do alarm clocks because the sudden jolting awake in the past has set off a panic attack (I probably should have mentioned this in my previous post). I also cannot have a phone in my bedroom for the same reason. Hopefully the good nutrition and supplements that I am on will prevent the panic attacks. Anyone else have other suggestions? with Metta, ~Lori~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I have the same thing, and I also used to work a swing shift. Mostly for me it's mental because at night even if I'm tired I will fight it because I don't want to sleep, I want to continue playing around. I'm very lucky my job has been flexible with my schedule as long as I get my work done because I have come to work at ridiculous hours. I finally started realizing how much it was affecting everything and decided to make yet another attempt at sleeping reasonable hours. I force myself to wake up and often have to discipline myself every night to sleep. It's a continued struggle.. not easy at all. But I set my alarm clock for the same time whether it be on weekend or weekday otherwise I just am too wired at night to sleep. The alarm clock I have is an inexpensive one from Walmart with a CD player. So I made my own CD with the " Gladiator Waltz " on it so I can wake up to it. It's from my favorite movie Gladiator. It starts off very slow and then builds to a crescendo. That way I don't get jolted awake, because I hate that about regular alarm clocks blaring in your ear. I also put the alarm clock across the room so I have to get up to turn it off. I am the snooze Queen and have been known to snooze every 10 minutes for 3 hours straight even with it across the room and have also slept through very loud alarms. So mostly when ever I start a task late at night, say reading my book, I look ahead of the book, estimate how long I have to read and then I pick a chapter to stop at. That works well for me, because if I was too rigid and only gave myself say 30 minutes, I would ignore my own discipline if I was in the middle of a good paragraph/page what ever. I'd just keep reading because I would just have to finish that chapter, and maybe the next just to appease my inner child. Then I also have to remind myself of all the reasons its better to go to sleep earlier (weight loss, fatigue the next day, feeling good about my choices, etc.) because man the inner child in me just wants to play all night long. For instance last night I had an hour to watch TV before bed time. So I start watching the TV show I recorded and then after starting it realized it was a 2 hour special. So I actually got to bed an hour later than I had planned. Had I known that it was a 2 hour special I wouldn't have started the show, because I know once I start something I won't want to wait until the next day to finish it. So I don't start tasks like that close to bed time. I just work with my own limitations and figure out a happy middle ground. So for me with my recent improvements, it's gradual changes, discipline at night with my bed time gradually getting earlier, and still allowing myself play time so my inner child doesn't rebel at all work no play. I've managed to get my average bed time from 4 or 5am to 1 or 2am this way, usually closer to 1am. Ultimately my goal is midnight for bedtime so I'm getting closer. I've been getting up by 8:30 am most days, although I slipped one day. Keep sticking to the diet and you will get so much better! Hope this helps... Luv, Debby San , CA healthnutwannab <healthnutwannab@...> wrote: For most of my adult life, I have been a nightowl. It started due to a 3rd shift job I had in my early 20s. I've enjoyed staying up late and sleeping in most of the morning, usually not getting up until 11 am or noonish and I don't start actually functioning well until around 2-ish. You see, I have been ill for so long (diabetes, panic disorder, CFS, etc.) that I can no longer hold down a job. So I have been at home. My husband is a truck driver, so he is gone 2 weeks at a time. I am pretty much left to my own weird schedule. Since being on Bee's diet, I have noticed more energy throughout the day (but still not enough to be high functioning)and I am even not needing to nap late in the evening as I have in the past (maybe one or two days a week now). However, I still cannot seem to get to bed before 2 or 3 am. This is also messing up my eating schedule as I am having breakfast at lunch time, lunch at dinner time and then eating again around 9 or 10 pm. Anyone have some suggestions as to how I can get off of this vicious cycle? with Metta, ~Lori~ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit. We develop it by practice. --Aristotle My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 > I've managed to get my average bed time from 4 or 5am to 1 or 2am this way, usually closer to 1am. Ultimately my goal is midnight for bedtime so I'm getting closer. I've been getting up by 8:30 am most days, although I slipped one day. > Debby, how do you manange to sleep until 8:30am daily with a toddler? Summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 lori,> > give your body the rest it needs. I know the feeling > to well of trying to wake up and not being able to > physically get out of bed. <snip> just follow your body signs, you may not be able to > wake up early for a while. Accept it and work around > it if you can. > > Everyone is different and can handle things > differently and i think shirley's idea is a good one, > once you get to that point. You just may not be there > yet. ==>Sue, do remember that we humans do get into habitual non-healthy patterns. Cravings for the wrong foods is one biggey. Sleep patterns that don't follow nature's clock and the sun are also not healthy. It is not wise to always go by what we " feel " or what our bodies are telling us. When you get healthy your body's tuning system will be much better and then you can follow it and it will be more accurate and healthy. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 > I did not mean anything by the comment Lori, just that you were going to > have to get out of bed earlier if you want to fall asleep earlier. I > understand all about CFS and panic attacks too. Sorry if I offended. > > Shirley > I'm sorry as well, Shirley. I was having a very sensitive day yesterday.. had the weepies for no reason at all (unless it is die- off). I did manage to get to bed at 2 am and was up by 10:30 am. I am going to try not to take a nap today. with Metta, ~Lori~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > > We have a live-in nanny that works from 7:30am to 6pm M-F. My husband works from home in the morning from 6am - 7:30 am. If my son wakes up earlier than 7:30am, my husband tends to him until my nanny starts work. On weekends my hubby and I take turns, and I wake up with him early one day, and he wakes up on the other. > Interesting. My DH and I have been talking about needing more support, but we are not sure how much. We have considered a live-in nanny, but have not taken the plunge yet. We have some concerns about affording it, some about space (our home is less than 1700 sqft), and some about what others will think (we have a close friend two doors down with 4 children and no help). We tell ourselves that it is what would be good for us regardless of what others are doing/thinking. Still contemplating....... Any advice? Hugs, Summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > > So how are your adrenals doing? Have you done the 4 times a day > cortisol levels test? If your cortisol levels are way off you can' > get to bed on time and simply can't get up earlier no matter how hard > you try. > > ~Inga > Inga, I don't even know what the cortisol levels test is. Can I find it in the files? If not, can you explain it to me? with Metta, ~Lori~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 >> > ---> So how are your adrenals doing? Have you done > the 4 times a day cortisol levels test? > > ***what are the cortisol level tests? I looked > throught our files and found nothing...maybe i am > misssing it.> > ==>Sue, you do not need to test your cortisol levels at all, so do not be concerned. All candida sufferers have malfunctioning adrenals. Just concentrate on your candida program and you'll do fine. If you are concerned about adrenals please read my article " Adrenal Malfunction & How to Treat Them " in the Treatment Folder. Actually I think Inga's message was intended for Lori and not you. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > > Cortisol tests measure the levels of cortisol your adrenals put out. (Blood tests don't work, and only test the levels in your bloodstream at one time of day...the saliva tests give a much more accurate picture of what is actually going on) Cortisol is a hormone that your body needs to function and be alive and it governs your circadian rhythm, ie, what makes you go to sleep and wake up, and when. A good place to get some basic info on cortisol is at http:// > www.drrind.com ==>Inga, do not be concerned about posting these kinds of messages on my group. It's just confusing to members. Like my Home Page states this group is not like others where members become confused by other member's information. There is a definite program and steps to follow. Such information is covered in our files (left menu). When you read my main article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " you will understand how candida affects the adrenals and other organs in the body, and that my program cures candida as well as any other malfunctions that are related. In fact my diet plus supplements is a " healing program " ; that's why I'm just setting up my own website on natural healing - to be launched in a month. Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 > Inga, I don't even know what the cortisol levels test is. Can I find it in the files? If not, can you explain it to me? Dear Lori, don't get confused my friend. Inga is a new member and she hasn't read the information yet. This group is different than other group because you get a very good program that is well laid out and organized for you so there is no confusion. Cortisol levels test the adrenals. All you need to know about adrenals is in the Treatments Folder " Adrenal Malfunction " . Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 > > I can relate to that! Could have been re-tracing going on Lori. > > Shirley > OMG if the weepies are going to be retracing, then I will have a lot of weepies. I've spent over half my life battling depression and weepies. *sighs* Thanks for being so understanding, Shirley. with Metta, ~Lori~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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