Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 well, okay, I'll tell it from own experience. .5mA is very mild. I used 1mA for years above the neck, but you should avoid Hot Spots on the electrodes at that current level, preferring some sort of pads rather than the tubular electrodes used in typical godzilla wrist artery blood electrification. Try to avoid skin irritations. The DC current is milder than pulsing AC to the head and heart, brain, etc, since it doesn't disturb their rhythms. But it can burn skin if left in one place too long, even if you reverse it.. The manual godzilla is still the best remedy, since the auto unit will enforce a timed spike when current automatically reverses. You can't beat the old manual model for some things, and were i you, I be using that, turning it up and down as I could feel it and watching the meter closely to avoid overdose. Also, I go from top inside mouth to top of head in front Once in awhile. SOTA makes the Beck Brain Tuner. I don't think that will help..at all, but for reference, it uses a maximum of 1mA AC output. That is considered safe though no guarantees. I think, having read over again your whole story, it might indeed be worth the effort using godzilla as long as the change cycles from bad to good and tending to improve. Your scan seemed clear, no tumors were implicated.?.so that is encouraging. The persistence of DC is truly useful in areas like this. The mag-pulser might also be intriguing, but if you do that, be very cautious using godzilla with it. The two together could produce a stronger spike than their sum. So if you do, turn godzilla way way down, ok? good. bG > Another update. > > I am continuing to treat my sinus problems with Godzilla, using 0.5mA for > one hour each day, either from temple to temple (to get the frontal sinuses) > or above eyebrow to back of neck (to get all sinuses on one side) changing > polarity every 5 minutes. > I continue to experience die-off symptoms, pain and inflamation down right > side of head, swollen glands down right side of body, pain in right kidney > and down right leg, prickling and tingling in various parts of my body, and > a weird dizzy feeling in the back of my head somewhere. The quality of the > pain in my sinuses has changed over the past few days (sharper more intense > pain), and I am noticing a lot of foul-tasting post-nasal drip. > > I wish I knew for sure what is going on. I am inclined to think I had a > large chunk of fungus in my right frontal sinus cavity, that is taking a lot > of killing. Or perhaps it is dead fungus that is taking a long time to clear > out, or perhaps all the fungus is gone, and bacteria are colonising the raw > damaged tissue. I associate the weird dizziness and prickling/tingling > sensation with the aspergillus, as I had these symptoms much worse when I > was washing large quantities of fungus out of my sinuses last year. I wonder > if some infection (fungal or other) is growing back between treatments, and > if I should increase the frequency or the current. Any ideas? > > My wife is also using Godzilla for a milder fungal sinus infection, and is > feeling better and better every day. > > H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Thanks Dean, I used a zapper for several years, and it may have helped. I'm certainly much much better than I was even a year ago. My wife reminds me that I spent the best part of two years in bed, curled up in a ball in total misery. I have used so many different things over the years it is hard to assess what has worked and what has not. I was more interested in a shotgun approach than in knowing for sure what had done the trick. 50g vitamin C a day? More than 5g gives me diarrhea! Best wishes, H Re: Re: Fungal sinusitis > Hi , > > I had a sinus condition, which I finally guessed to be a fungal > infection, for about 10 years. I had to guess at the cause, because > 22 (!!!!) MD/ENT and other specialists didn't make any tests for > fungus. A CAT scan showed no abnormalities, but the entire right side > of my face was puffy. I tried practically everything to reduce the > problem (Two years of which required me to sleep in a chair because I > couldn't lay down for 15 minutes before the pain started. I had > severe pain episodes two to four times a day, some lasting 8 hours.). > Of course, I couldn't work reliably, and lost practically all of my > clients (I'm a consultant). > > I tried, among many other things, 50,000 mg of vitamin C daily, 8 > ounces of cayenne pepper juice daily (hoping to get better blood flow > to fight the problem), CS, MSM, etc. -- the same as you. I also tried > various exercises, Chi Gung (and Tai Chi, Yoga, etc.). > > Finally, I decided to try 's Zapper, a year after I read her book > " The Cure for all Diseases. " I worked with electronics for over 40 > years, so I knew low voltage electricity couldn't possibly help. > > Well, it did. Within a day of using 's Zapper (I had all the > parts needed sitting on my workbench for years, so I threw it > together), I noticed a lessening of the duration of the sinus pain. > Zapping three times daily, within a two weeks I had a full day without > the pain -- something that hadn't happened for several years. This > continued until the day came when I forgot to zap. I forgot for two > weeks. Then I had another pain episode. So I had to build another > zapper (because I gave the one I used to my sister to try for her > arthritis). The pain started, and I zapped. Within 10 minutes the > pain was gone. > > That was 6 years ago. Now I zap, maybe, once a month or less. But I > have it sitting right here on my desk. > > Maybe this can help. > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:51:06 +0100, " Holloway " > <p.j.holloway@...> wrote: > > >I have been seeing an ENT consultant with this, and she has been, frankly, > >useless. > >My previous consultant told me there was no problem, for two years, then had > >to change his mind when I started washing large chunks of fungus out of my > >sinuses. I identified this as aspergillus fumigatus under a microscope - I > >even photographed it and compared it with photos I found online - and sent a > >sample off to the Fungal Lab (I was working in a hospital lab at the time > >and had access to lab services). They cultured, surprise surprise, > >aspergillus fumigatus and phoned me to warn me that this was very serious. > > > >I was prescribed oral antifungals for a few months, which didn't help, then > >referred to my current doctor, who has done nothing. She says I am not a > >suitable candidate for surgery, and that I don't fulfil the criteria for > >trials she is doing with an amphotericin B nasal rinse. She has nothing else > >in her black bag she can give me, so alternative approaches are my only > >hope. Before anyone suggests it, I have rinsed with every possible > >combination of CS, MSM, grapefruit seed extract, and inhaled ozone every day > >for months, and it has all helped, but not eliminated the problem. Meanwhile > >I have lost my job through being unwell, which seems very unfair as I think > >I picked up this infection at work, in the path lab. I am taking legal > >advice. > > > >I do think this is working, though slowly, and will continue as I am for the > >time being, in the hope it will eventually get entirely better. The other > >approach I want to try is the device described on the magnetic-pulser list. > >If it works for Lyme, maybe it will work for this. > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Thanks Bob, I have been experimenting with up to 1mA and I seem to tolerate that OK without burning. I have had much less sinus pain the last 24 hours, though I am in a lot of pain down my neck and back again, so I think this is working. I shall continue, and will continue to post my results here too. I am using a SOTA pulser and a Jaguar pulser, but not at the same time as the Godzilla. I figure that they will help to kill this stuff, and help to move it out too. The Jaguar pulser definitely has a very bebeficial effect, as I discovered when I blew mine up and had to send it for repair. My symptoms gradually came back, and went away again when I got my repaired unit back. They still come back if I don't pulse every day, hence my interest in finding other treatments that will eliminate this problem. Best wishes, H Re: Fungal sinusitis > well, okay, I'll tell it from own experience. .5mA is very mild. I > used 1mA for years above the neck, but you should avoid Hot Spots on > the electrodes at that current level, preferring some sort of pads > rather than the tubular electrodes used in typical godzilla wrist > artery blood electrification. > > Try to avoid skin irritations. The DC current is milder than > pulsing AC to the head and heart, brain, etc, since it doesn't > disturb their rhythms. But it can burn skin if left in one place > too long, even if you reverse it.. > > The manual godzilla is still the best remedy, since the auto unit > will enforce a timed spike when current automatically reverses. You > can't beat the old manual model for some things, and were i you, I > be using that, turning it up and down as I could feel it and > watching the meter closely to avoid overdose. > > Also, I go from top inside mouth to top of head in front Once in > awhile. SOTA makes the Beck Brain Tuner. I don't think that will > help..at all, but for reference, it uses a maximum of 1mA AC > output. That is considered safe though no guarantees. > > I think, having read over again your whole story, it might indeed be > worth the effort using godzilla as long as the change cycles from > bad to good and tending to improve. Your scan seemed clear, no > tumors were implicated.?.so that is encouraging. The persistence of > DC is truly useful in areas like this. The mag-pulser might also be > intriguing, but if you do that, be very cautious using godzilla with > it. The two together could produce a stronger spike than their > sum. So if you do, turn godzilla way way down, ok? good. > > bG > > > > Another update. > > > > I am continuing to treat my sinus problems with Godzilla, using > 0.5mA for > > one hour each day, either from temple to temple (to get the > frontal sinuses) > > or above eyebrow to back of neck (to get all sinuses on one side) > changing > > polarity every 5 minutes. > > I continue to experience die-off symptoms, pain and inflamation > down right > > side of head, swollen glands down right side of body, pain in > right kidney > > and down right leg, prickling and tingling in various parts of my > body, and > > a weird dizzy feeling in the back of my head somewhere. The > quality of the > > pain in my sinuses has changed over the past few days (sharper > more intense > > pain), and I am noticing a lot of foul-tasting post-nasal drip. > > > > I wish I knew for sure what is going on. I am inclined to think I > had a > > large chunk of fungus in my right frontal sinus cavity, that is > taking a lot > > of killing. Or perhaps it is dead fungus that is taking a long > time to clear > > out, or perhaps all the fungus is gone, and bacteria are > colonising the raw > > damaged tissue. I associate the weird dizziness and > prickling/tingling > > sensation with the aspergillus, as I had these symptoms much worse > when I > > was washing large quantities of fungus out of my sinuses last > year. I wonder > > if some infection (fungal or other) is growing back between > treatments, and > > if I should increase the frequency or the current. Any ideas? > > > > My wife is also using Godzilla for a milder fungal sinus > infection, and is > > feeling better and better every day. > > > > H > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Hi , Thanks for sharing your interesting and valuable learning experiences with " us seekers " . As bG states, we need to hear both good results, non-results & undesirable results in order to better learn how-to and how-not-to. You have been extremely fortunate to find this Site and been able to share useful information from several experts. Over the 56 years as a Pharmacist, I've seen many searching for a " 100% CURE " to their problem even after they (like you) have found the next best thing to a Cure. For exampe: Diabetes in a good patient, usually can be controlled by diet, oral medications or injectable Insulin after daily testing and following their doctor's directions--for them, that is a CURE, but must be continually maintained. Consider the alternatives: Possible coma, loss of limbs, death or continually searching for relief at tremendous mental & physical suffering and expense. Please continue using the DAILY pulsing, relax & enjoy life, with a grateful heart that so many have not found. Sincerely, , 56 yr FL Pharmacist Re: Re: Fungal sinusitis Thanks Bob, I have been experimenting with up to 1mA and I seem to tolerate that OK without burning. I have had much less sinus pain the last 24 hours, though I am in a lot of pain down my neck and back again, so I think this is working. I shall continue, and will continue to post my results here too. I am using a SOTA pulser and a Jaguar pulser, but not at the same time as the Godzilla. I figure that they will help to kill this stuff, and help to move it out too. The Jaguar pulser definitely has a very bebeficial effect, as I discovered when I blew mine up and had to send it for repair. My symptoms gradually came back, and went away again when I got my repaired unit back. They still come back if I don't pulse every day, hence my interest in finding other treatments that will eliminate this problem. Best wishes, H Re: Fungal sinusitis > well, okay, I'll tell it from own experience. .5mA is very mild. I > used 1mA for years above the neck, but you should avoid Hot Spots on > the electrodes at that current level, preferring some sort of pads > rather than the tubular electrodes used in typical godzilla wrist > artery blood electrification. > > Try to avoid skin irritations. The DC current is milder than > pulsing AC to the head and heart, brain, etc, since it doesn't > disturb their rhythms. But it can burn skin if left in one place > too long, even if you reverse it.. > > The manual godzilla is still the best remedy, since the auto unit > will enforce a timed spike when current automatically reverses. You > can't beat the old manual model for some things, and were i you, I > be using that, turning it up and down as I could feel it and > watching the meter closely to avoid overdose. > > Also, I go from top inside mouth to top of head in front Once in > awhile. SOTA makes the Beck Brain Tuner. I don't think that will > help..at all, but for reference, it uses a maximum of 1mA AC > output. That is considered safe though no guarantees. > > I think, having read over again your whole story, it might indeed be > worth the effort using godzilla as long as the change cycles from > bad to good and tending to improve. Your scan seemed clear, no > tumors were implicated.?.so that is encouraging. The persistence of > DC is truly useful in areas like this. The mag-pulser might also be > intriguing, but if you do that, be very cautious using godzilla with > it. The two together could produce a stronger spike than their > sum. So if you do, turn godzilla way way down, ok? good. > > bG > > > > Another update. > > > > I am continuing to treat my sinus problems with Godzilla, using > 0.5mA for > > one hour each day, either from temple to temple (to get the > frontal sinuses) > > or above eyebrow to back of neck (to get all sinuses on one side) > changing > > polarity every 5 minutes. > > I continue to experience die-off symptoms, pain and inflamation > down right > > side of head, swollen glands down right side of body, pain in > right kidney > > and down right leg, prickling and tingling in various parts of my > body, and > > a weird dizzy feeling in the back of my head somewhere. The > quality of the > > pain in my sinuses has changed over the past few days (sharper > more intense > > pain), and I am noticing a lot of foul-tasting post-nasal drip. > > > > I wish I knew for sure what is going on. I am inclined to think I > had a > > large chunk of fungus in my right frontal sinus cavity, that is > taking a lot > > of killing. Or perhaps it is dead fungus that is taking a long > time to clear > > out, or perhaps all the fungus is gone, and bacteria are > colonising the raw > > damaged tissue. I associate the weird dizziness and > prickling/tingling > > sensation with the aspergillus, as I had these symptoms much worse > when I > > was washing large quantities of fungus out of my sinuses last > year. I wonder > > if some infection (fungal or other) is growing back between > treatments, and > > if I should increase the frequency or the current. Any ideas? > > > > My wife is also using Godzilla for a milder fungal sinus > infection, and is > > feeling better and better every day. > > > > H > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 I used to be able to handle 20g/day, back when I was a smoker, a drinker and ate sugar. I quit smoking and alcohol and sugar over a year ago, generally live a much healthier life, and my tolerance has dropped, as it should I think. Even increasing the dose slowly I reach a threshold of gut tolerance. I think I know what you mean about the stepped use of vitamin C, but I think other antioxidants are also involved as well. This is drifting off-topic I suppose, though I think an adequate intake of antioxidants is a prerequisite to good health. H Re: Re: Fungal sinusitis > On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:21:20 +0100, " Holloway " > <p.j.holloway@...> wrote: > > >50g vitamin C a day? More than 5g gives me diarrhea! > > Hmm. That's awfully low. Most people can ramp up to 20g daily > without a problem, from what I've read. But it has to be done over a > month, at least. 500 mg increase daily, or the body gets rid of it. > > vit C is used in a stepped system by the body: step 1 uses vit C to > produce compound X, then the next day step 2 uses vit C and compound X > to produce compound Y, then the next day step 3 uses vit C and > compound Y to produce compound Z, etc. So an increasing amount of vit > C is needed as the days go by sufficient amounts of various compounds, > such as adrenalin, melatonin, etc. > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 That's exactly what I've done Dick, and I see a reducing tolerance as a measure of my improving general health. H Re: Re: Fungal sinusitis > > > > > > > Hi , > > > > > > I had a sinus condition, which I finally guessed to be a fungal > > > infection, for about 10 years. I had to guess at the cause, because > > > 22 (!!!!) MD/ENT and other specialists didn't make any tests for > > > fungus. A CAT scan showed no abnormalities, but the entire right side > > > of my face was puffy. I tried practically everything to reduce the > > > problem (Two years of which required me to sleep in a chair because I > > > couldn't lay down for 15 minutes before the pain started. I had > > > severe pain episodes two to four times a day, some lasting 8 hours.). > > > Of course, I couldn't work reliably, and lost practically all of my > > > clients (I'm a consultant). > > > > > > I tried, among many other things, 50,000 mg of vitamin C daily, 8 > > > ounces of cayenne pepper juice daily (hoping to get better blood flow > > > to fight the problem), CS, MSM, etc. -- the same as you. I also tried > > > various exercises, Chi Gung (and Tai Chi, Yoga, etc.). > > > > > > Finally, I decided to try 's Zapper, a year after I read her book > > > " The Cure for all Diseases. " I worked with electronics for over 40 > > > years, so I knew low voltage electricity couldn't possibly help. > > > > > > Well, it did. Within a day of using 's Zapper (I had all the > > > parts needed sitting on my workbench for years, so I threw it > > > together), I noticed a lessening of the duration of the sinus pain. > > > Zapping three times daily, within a two weeks I had a full day without > > > the pain -- something that hadn't happened for several years. This > > > continued until the day came when I forgot to zap. I forgot for two > > > weeks. Then I had another pain episode. So I had to build another > > > zapper (because I gave the one I used to my sister to try for her > > > arthritis). The pain started, and I zapped. Within 10 minutes the > > > pain was gone. > > > > > > That was 6 years ago. Now I zap, maybe, once a month or less. But I > > > have it sitting right here on my desk. > > > > > > Maybe this can help. > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:51:06 +0100, " Holloway " > > > <p.j.holloway@...> wrote: > > > > > > >I have been seeing an ENT consultant with this, and she has been, > > frankly, > > > >useless. > > > >My previous consultant told me there was no problem, for two years, > then > > had > > > >to change his mind when I started washing large chunks of fungus out of > > my > > > >sinuses. I identified this as aspergillus fumigatus under a > microscope - > > I > > > >even photographed it and compared it with photos I found online - and > > sent a > > > >sample off to the Fungal Lab (I was working in a hospital lab at the > time > > > >and had access to lab services). They cultured, surprise surprise, > > > >aspergillus fumigatus and phoned me to warn me that this was very > > serious. > > > > > > > >I was prescribed oral antifungals for a few months, which didn't help, > > then > > > >referred to my current doctor, who has done nothing. She says I am not > a > > > >suitable candidate for surgery, and that I don't fulfil the criteria > for > > > >trials she is doing with an amphotericin B nasal rinse. She has nothing > > else > > > >in her black bag she can give me, so alternative approaches are my only > > > >hope. Before anyone suggests it, I have rinsed with every possible > > > >combination of CS, MSM, grapefruit seed extract, and inhaled ozone > every > > day > > > >for months, and it has all helped, but not eliminated the problem. > > Meanwhile > > > >I have lost my job through being unwell, which seems very unfair as I > > think > > > >I picked up this infection at work, in the path lab. I am taking legal > > > >advice. > > > > > > > >I do think this is working, though slowly, and will continue as I am > for > > the > > > >time being, in the hope it will eventually get entirely better. The > other > > > >approach I want to try is the device described on the magnetic-pulser > > list. > > > >If it works for Lyme, maybe it will work for this. > > > > > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > > > > > > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most > > group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not > request > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. > There > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical > advice. > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, > or > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, > > good luck researching. --bG > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Hi DB and thanks, I have tried xylitol, with and without CS for long periods, and it helped, but the fungus still hung on in there. I tried a long list of things as a nasal rinse, and quit entirely in the end as it seemed to be making things worse, I think I spread the infection all around my sinuses, and into my eustachian tubes as well. Aspergillus is one difficult thing to kill. I have heard of houses infested with the same stuff that have been burned down as it's impossible to decontaminate them. It also produces toxins that disable the immune system, knocking out phagocytes, and its spores are pretty much indestructible, you you have to keep killing the stuff as any spores hatch out. I'm better again today, so I'm feeling optimistic that DC is doing the trick. H Re: Fungal sinusitis > - It's been a while since I've been around here, just dropped in > and read of your plight. > > While my wife and I have both found Godzilla/Beck-ing/BE-ing to have > positive effects on the sinuses, I recently found something to be so > effective at washing out the sinuses that I doubt I will ever again be > without it, and boy is it ever cheap and simple. Here it is: > > 2 oz. CS + 1/4 teaspoon Xylitol. It doesn't even have to be CS. You > can buy a Walmart Equate saline nasal spray bottle, pop off the top > sprayer, add 1/4 tsp. of granulated xylitol, re-install the sprayer, > shake very well, and use that. > > After several years of no sinus infections, I got slack about all my > precautions against sickness this winter, caught a cold, and ended up > with my head well plugged and infected. I tried several other > formulas, all of which I had had success to some degree with before, > but when I did this one, it resulted in a 10 minute long flood from my > nose, with completely clear sinuses just that soon, and the infection > gone right then and there. I've never seen anything like it. > > From what I've read, xylitol simply makes your sinuses to slippery for > anything to hang on. > > I have since used it in our annual southeastern pollen deluge that we > call " Yellow Hell " , and washed out all offending pollen, stopping pain > dead in its tracks, several times in the last 3 weeks. > > Hope this helps, DB > > > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'm better again today, less sinus pain and drainage, and less die-off. I had a fungal toenail infection a few years ago which cleared up with a single application of neat tea-tree oil. I was stunned. I did try using tea-tree oil in a nasal rinse, but it burned badly, and didn't seem to kill the fungus in there. H Re: Fungal sinusitis > > > > > > > - It's been a while since I've been around here, just > dropped in > > > and read of your plight. > > > > > > While my wife and I have both found Godzilla/Beck-ing/BE-ing to > have > > > positive effects on the sinuses, I recently found something to > be so > > > effective at washing out the sinuses that I doubt I will ever > again be > > > without it, and boy is it ever cheap and simple. Here it is: > > > > > > 2 oz. CS + 1/4 teaspoon Xylitol. It doesn't even have to be CS. > You > > > can buy a Walmart Equate saline nasal spray bottle, pop off the > top > > > sprayer, add 1/4 tsp. of granulated xylitol, re-install the > sprayer, > > > shake very well, and use that. > > > > > > After several years of no sinus infections, I got slack about > all my > > > precautions against sickness this winter, caught a cold, and > ended up > > > with my head well plugged and infected. I tried several other > > > formulas, all of which I had had success to some degree with > before, > > > but when I did this one, it resulted in a 10 minute long flood > from my > > > nose, with completely clear sinuses just that soon, and the > infection > > > gone right then and there. I've never seen anything like it. > > > > > > From what I've read, xylitol simply makes your sinuses to > slippery for > > > anything to hang on. > > > > > > I have since used it in our annual southeastern pollen deluge > that we > > > call " Yellow Hell " , and washed out all offending pollen, > stopping pain > > > dead in its tracks, several times in the last 3 weeks. > > > > > > Hope this helps, DB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical > advice. Most > > group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do > not request > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human > compassion. There > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed > medical advice. > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme > of the > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate > microbes, as > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about > repeatability, or > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > understanding, > > good luck researching. --bG > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'll look into that, thanks. H Re: Fungal sinusitis > - only one other suggestion do I have for you, with no idea if it > will help: Bragg Vinegar, a tablespoon 3 times a day (or more). > > I had the jock itch from hell for 34 years (tinea cruris). It > literally rendered me unable to walk many times and afflicted me 6 > months out of every year. I had become immune to all known antifungals > 5 years ago. When I discovered CS, I was at least able to keep the > itch at bay enough to function by external application 3-4 times a day. > > When I went through my BE experience, I had some wonderful things to > happen, but relief from jock itch was not one of them. That following > summer (2 years now??) I started taking Bragg's just to see what it > would do. > > WHAMMO! It cured my jock itch never to be seen again, along with a few > other bothersome skin fungal problems. 34 years of misery disappeared > nearly overnight. > > Some people can't take it. My wife can't. If you can take it and > handle it on your stomach, then I would venture to say that while it > may not directly help this particular condition, it sure couldn't hurt. > > DB > > > > Hi DB and thanks, > > > > I have tried xylitol, with and without CS for long periods, and it > helped, > > but the fungus still hung on in there. > > I tried a long list of things as a nasal rinse, and quit entirely in > the end > > as it seemed to be making things worse, I think I spread the > infection all > > around my sinuses, and into my eustachian tubes as well. > > Aspergillus is one difficult thing to kill. I have heard of houses > infested > > with the same stuff that have been burned down as it's impossible to > > decontaminate them. It also produces toxins that disable the immune > system, > > knocking out phagocytes, and its spores are pretty much > indestructible, you > > you have to keep killing the stuff as any spores hatch out. > > I'm better again today, so I'm feeling optimistic that DC is doing the > > trick. > > > > H > > > > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 ....go, ... bG > > > Hi DB and thanks, > > > > > > I have tried xylitol, with and without CS for long periods, and it > > helped, > > > but the fungus still hung on in there. > > > I tried a long list of things as a nasal rinse, and quit entirely > > in the end > > > as it seemed to be making things worse, I think I spread the > > infection all > > > around my sinuses, and into my eustachian tubes as well. > > > Aspergillus is one difficult thing to kill. I have heard of houses > > infested > > > with the same stuff that have been burned down as it's impossible > > to > > > decontaminate them. It also produces toxins that disable the > > immune system, > > > knocking out phagocytes, and its spores are pretty much > > indestructible, you > > > you have to keep killing the stuff as any spores hatch out. > > > I'm better again today, so I'm feeling optimistic that DC is doing > > the > > > trick. > > > > > > H > > > > > > Re: Fungal sinusitis > > > > > > > > > > - It's been a while since I've been around here, just > > dropped in > > > > and read of your plight. > > > > > > > > While my wife and I have both found Godzilla/Beck-ing/BE-ing to > > have > > > > positive effects on the sinuses, I recently found something to > > be so > > > > effective at washing out the sinuses that I doubt I will ever > > again be > > > > without it, and boy is it ever cheap and simple. Here it is: > > > > > > > > 2 oz. CS + 1/4 teaspoon Xylitol. It doesn't even have to be CS. > > You > > > > can buy a Walmart Equate saline nasal spray bottle, pop off the > > top > > > > sprayer, add 1/4 tsp. of granulated xylitol, re-install the > > sprayer, > > > > shake very well, and use that. > > > > > > > > After several years of no sinus infections, I got slack about > > all my > > > > precautions against sickness this winter, caught a cold, and > > ended up > > > > with my head well plugged and infected. I tried several other > > > > formulas, all of which I had had success to some degree with > > before, > > > > but when I did this one, it resulted in a 10 minute long flood > > from my > > > > nose, with completely clear sinuses just that soon, and the > > infection > > > > gone right then and there. I've never seen anything like it. > > > > > > > > From what I've read, xylitol simply makes your sinuses to > > slippery for > > > > anything to hang on. > > > > > > > > I have since used it in our annual southeastern pollen deluge > > that we > > > > call " Yellow Hell " , and washed out all offending pollen, > > stopping pain > > > > dead in its tracks, several times in the last 3 weeks. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, DB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information on this group is not intended as medical > > advice. Most > > > group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do > > not request > > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human > > compassion. There > > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed > > medical advice. > > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme > > of the > > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate > > microbes, as > > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are > > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about > > repeatability, or > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > > understanding, > > > good luck researching. --bG > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Interesting, especially as I have a bottle of colloidal copper that I made a while ago. Thanks! H Re: Fungal sinusitis - only one other suggestion do I have for you, with no idea if itwill help: Bragg Vinegar, a tablespoon 3 times a day (or more).I had the jock itch from hell for 34 years (tinea cruris). Itliterally rendered me unable to walk many times and afflicted me 6months out of every year. I had become immune to all known antifungals5 years ago. When I discovered CS, I was at least able to keep theitch at bay enough to function by external application 3-4 times a day.When I went through my BE experience, I had some wonderful things tohappen, but relief from jock itch was not one of them. That followingsummer (2 years now??) I started taking Bragg's just to see what itwould do. WHAMMO! It cured my jock itch never to be seen again, along with a fewother bothersome skin fungal problems. 34 years of misery disappearednearly overnight.Some people can't take it. My wife can't. If you can take it andhandle it on your stomach, then I would venture to say that while itmay not directly help this particular condition, it sure couldn't hurt.DB> Hi DB and thanks,> > I have tried xylitol, with and without CS for long periods, and ithelped,> but the fungus still hung on in there.> I tried a long list of things as a nasal rinse, and quit entirely inthe end> as it seemed to be making things worse, I think I spread theinfection all> around my sinuses, and into my eustachian tubes as well.> Aspergillus is one difficult thing to kill. I have heard of housesinfested> with the same stuff that have been burned down as it's impossible to> decontaminate them. It also produces toxins that disable the immunesystem,> knocking out phagocytes, and its spores are pretty muchindestructible, you> you have to keep killing the stuff as any spores hatch out.> I'm better again today, so I'm feeling optimistic that DC is doing the> trick.> > H> The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 > > Hi everyone. I am a vegetarian and want to start the diet but I am not > sure if I will be able to do it as I am basically restricted to eggs as > protein. Are there any other vegetarians who have followed the diet and > if so did you make up any diet sheets that would be usefull to me. > Thanks.x > Hi, I am the type of vegetarian who eats lots of carbs and very little protein. I am going to start eating fish soon If I can do it as it is the only way I will be able to follow bees diet.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 > Hi, I am the type of vegetarian who eats lots of carbs and very little protein. I am going to start eating fish soon If I can do it as it is the only way I will be able to follow bees diet.x ==>Good for you! Also eat lots of good certified organic free-range eggs; Bee's Raw Egg Drink is excellent - see our Group's Recipe Folder under Drinks. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Dear Bee / Everyone. I have been following the diet for 3 weeks now and have had a vast improvement with my sinus problems. I am finding it hard to eat meat or fish as I have had a phobia about them since I was 6. Its hard for me to relate to meat as anything other than a dead body. Is it possible to cure my candida by only having eggs and the cod liver oil supplement. I have ordered some RAW BUTTER AND RAW CHEESE. Can anyone please tell me how much raw cheese is allowable per day and if it is classed as fat or protein. Thankyou Love a.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hi a, Because there are essential nutrients needed that can only be found in meat it really is a needed part of the program. Also cheese is not permitted until way down the road when the candida is completely under control. Total healing requires one month for every year you have had any sypmtom of candida overgrowth, including any illnesses in general. in the UK On Nov 9, 2007 11:39 AM, paulahallam <paulahallam@...> wrote: > Dear Bee / Everyone. > > I have been following the diet for 3 weeks now and have had a vast > improvement with my sinus problems. I am finding it hard to eat meat or > fish as I have had a phobia about them since I was 6. Its hard for me > to relate to meat as anything other than a dead body. Is it possible to > cure my candida by only having eggs and the cod liver oil supplement. I > have ordered some RAW BUTTER AND RAW CHEESE. Can anyone please tell me > how much raw cheese is allowable per day and if it is classed as fat or > protein. Thankyou Love a.x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hi a, Good for you for sticking to the diet for three weeks! Way to go. As for cheese, even if its raw, unfortunately, it is not recommended. Sorry. But raw butter is great! I myself love the taste of raw butter, so I hope you enjoy it as well. " ) Jecca --- " paulahallam " <paulahallam@...> wrote: > > I have been following the diet for 3 weeks now and have had a vast improvement with my sinus problems. I am finding it hard to eat meat or fish as I have had a phobia about them since I was 6. Its hard for me to relate to meat as anything other than a dead body. Is it possible to cure my candida by only having eggs and the cod liver oil supplement. I have ordered some RAW BUTTER AND RAW CHEESE. Can anyone please tell me how much raw cheese is allowable per day and if it is classed as fat or protein. Thank you Love a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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